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- “This is the story of a sturdy American symbol which has now-spread throughout most of the world. The symbol is not the dollar. It is not even Coca-Cola. It is a simple pair of pants called blue jeans, and what the pants symbolize is what Alexis de Tocqueville called “a manly and legitimate passion for equality. …” Blue jeans are favored equally by bureaucrats and cowboys; bankers and deadbeats; fashion designers and beer drinkers. They draw no distinctions and recognize no classes; they are merely American.”Van: evola_as_he_is@... [evola_as_he_is]
Verzonden: maandag 30 juni 2014 20:36
Aan: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.comPlease also take note that special cases tend to become less special as times goes by.
Considering the level of the new White generations, one does not have to be a cynic not to blame some White females, given your premises, for being, so to speak, wise enough, when pregnant, not to give birth. On the other hand, and given that, to use J. Evolas’ own ‘terminology’, ‘vertical’ heredity and horizontal, historical, biological heredity are not necessarily connected in all cases, it could also be argued that these females, by aborting, prevent the birth of potentially differentiated children (see The Mystery of Birth Explained
- To approach this topic rightly we could just as easily speak about a "conspiracy of clothing". A type of conspiracy that is perhaps best compared with that of the food industry. Given that 'form', 'shape' and 'substance' are carefully controlled (the clothing possibly containing harmful substances).For America this video names two companies that turn out to be founded by Jews (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Fisher, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Eagle_Outfitters) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dYl4r8cGcA. One could go on and look elsewhere for other, similar examples, but we were just as well thinking about a type of protocol or blueprint that's being used for these particular activities.Van: G. van der Heide
Verzonden: dinsdag 1 juli 2014 22:54
Aan: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com“This is the story of a sturdy American symbol which has now-spread throughout most of the world. The symbol is not the dollar. It is not even Coca-Cola. It is a simple pair of pants called blue jeans, and what the pants symbolize is what Alexis de Tocqueville called “a manly and legitimate passion for equality. …” Blue jeans are favored equally by bureaucrats and cowboys; bankers and deadbeats; fashion designers and beer drinkers. They draw no distinctions and recognize no classes; they are merely American.”Van: evola_as_he_is@... [evola_as_he_is]
Verzonden: maandag 30 juni 2014 20:36
Aan: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.comPlease also take note that special cases tend to become less special as times goes by.
Considering the level of the new White generations, one does not have to be a cynic not to blame some White females, given your premises, for being, so to speak, wise enough, when pregnant, not to give birth. On the other hand, and given that, to use J. Evolas’ own ‘terminology’, ‘vertical’ heredity and horizontal, historical, biological heredity are not necessarily connected in all cases, it could also be argued that these females, by aborting, prevent the birth of potentially differentiated children (see The Mystery of Birth Explained
- Concerning a recent occult-laden "music" event, someone made the interesting connection between hermaphroditism and voodoo practices in Brazil and West-Africa known as Macumba which would involve the worship of a hermaphrodite figure or image.Van: 'G. van der Heide' g.vdheide@... [evola_as_he_is]
Verzonden: woensdag 2 juli 2014 14:14
Aan: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.comTo approach this topic rightly we could just as easily speak about a "conspiracy of clothing". A type of conspiracy that is perhaps best compared with that of the food industry. Given that 'form', 'shape' and 'substance' are carefully controlled (the clothing possibly containing harmful substances).For America this video names two companies that turn out to be founded by Jews (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Fisher, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Eagle_Outfitters) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dYl4r8cGcA. One could go on and look elsewhere for other, similar examples, but we were just as well thinking about a type of protocol or blueprint that's being used for these particular activities.Van: G. van der Heide
Verzonden: dinsdag 1 juli 2014 22:54
Aan: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com“This is the story of a sturdy American symbol which has now-spread throughout most of the world. The symbol is not the dollar. It is not even Coca-Cola. It is a simple pair of pants called blue jeans, and what the pants symbolize is what Alexis de Tocqueville called “a manly and legitimate passion for equality. …” Blue jeans are favored equally by bureaucrats and cowboys; bankers and deadbeats; fashion designers and beer drinkers. They draw no distinctions and recognize no classes; they are merely American.”Van: evola_as_he_is@... [evola_as_he_is]
Verzonden: maandag 30 juni 2014 20:36
Aan: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.comPlease also take note that special cases tend to become less special as times goes by.
Considering the level of the new White generations, one does not have to be a cynic not to blame some White females, given your premises, for being, so to speak, wise enough, when pregnant, not to give birth. On the other hand, and given that, to use J. Evolas’ own ‘terminology’, ‘vertical’ heredity and horizontal, historical, biological heredity are not necessarily connected in all cases, it could also be argued that these females, by aborting, prevent the birth of potentially differentiated children (see The Mystery of Birth Explained
- The bunch of internet writings from which we are about to quote, contain a few points about matriarchal societies and feminism and their connectedness to puritanist movements and theocratic regimes. Aside from other obvious objections to this material, this 'internet persona' seems only to wish a reform of so-called 'feminism'.
"(The) sense of entitlement (the so-called princess syndrome) that is diligently inculcated into the Protestant Anglo-Saxon female from the earliest youth, is directly descended from the Calvinist work ethic of the first English settlers in the New World. From the perspective of Calvinist belief and practice, women were placed on pedestals and held to a separate code of conduct and personal morality that is beyond individual scrutiny or criticism. Hence, it is because of the puritanical basis of Anglo-Saxon culture that women are granted an automatic sense of entitlement, which comes from the female being transformed into a supplier of sex through the market forces of industrial capitalism, where sex itself is seen as a scarce commodity that must be rigidly controlled so as to maintain the privileged position of the human female within all heterosexual transactions.
In other words, modern Anglo-Saxon feminism, combined with the Calvinist belief in the natural purity and chastity of the female (according to the Protestant scholastics of the late Reformation period, the human female was seen as a creature who was void of sensual passion) has granted the female a substantial number of rights, even more rights than the average male."
http://kshatriya-anglobitch.blogspot.be/2009/04/guest-post-by-monsieur-chauvin.html
"In For Fear of the Angels (1996) English Anglican priest Charles Pickstone argues that women have come to embody the spiritual yearnings of men, yearnings that were once addressed by sermon and prayer:
Now it becomes clear that women have become an entire religion substitute (Pickstone, 1996:169).
However, Anglo culture has nurtured such atavistic, matriarchal principles from its very inception. The cult of Queen Elizabeth I, or Gloriana, came tellingly in the immediate wake of the Reformation. With the Traditional relationship between Church and Monarch severed, divinity was now embodied in the Monarch alone. The cult of Gloriana saw the first elevation of Western woman to object of worship since the advent of Christianity. The theme has continued through English history, incorporating the reigns of Anne and Victoria and reaching its recent apotheosis in the cult of Lady Diana."
[...]
"The near beatification of females we find in Anglo-American culture is best represented by popular music. In reflexive opposition to all experience, Anglo-American pop musicians routinely describe females as angelic avatars of kindness, understanding and liberation. The narcissistic reality hardly reflects these ideals. In particular, the ‘revolutionary’ Anglo-American music of the Sixties is nauseatingly gynocentric: an insipid extension of existing cultural norms."
[...]
The only distinction between these two positions is 400 years of Puritanism. Modern Anglo-American culture is subsumed by a puritan animus that affords females semi-divine status. Virtually all cultural artefacts produced in the anglosphere now deify women, be they films, novels or pop songs. However ‘revolutionary’ or counter-cultural’ Anglo-Americans claim to be, they cannot escape these gynocratic assumptions, which apply equally to hippies and Bible-belt conservatives. http://kshatriya-anglobitch.blogspot.be/2009/04/cult-of-anglobitch-from-gloriana-to.html
From: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 22:11:51 +0000
Subject: Re: [evola_as_he_is] Re: A propos du rationalisme, du scientisme et de l'intelligence
Concerning a recent occult-laden "music" event, someone made the interesting connection between hermaphroditism and voodoo practices in Brazil and West-Africa known as Macumba which would involve the worship of a hermaphrodite figure or image.Van: 'G. van der Heide' g.vdheide@... [evola_as_he_is]
Verzonden: woensdag 2 juli 2014 14:14
Aan: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.comTo approach this topic rightly we could just as easily speak about a "conspiracy of clothing". A type of conspiracy that is perhaps best compared with that of the food industry. Given that 'form', 'shape' and 'substance' are carefully controlled (the clothing possibly containing harmful substances).For America this video names two companies that turn out to be founded by Jews (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Fisher, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Eagle_Outfitters) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dYl4r8cGcA. One could go on and look elsewhere for other, similar examples, but we were just as well thinking about a type of protocol or blueprint that's being used for these particular activities.Van: G. van der Heide
Verzonden: dinsdag 1 juli 2014 22:54
Aan: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com“This is the story of a sturdy American symbol which has now-spread throughout most of the world. The symbol is not the dollar. It is not even Coca-Cola. It is a simple pair of pants called blue jeans, and what the pants symbolize is what Alexis de Tocqueville called “a manly and legitimate passion for equality. …” Blue jeans are favored equally by bureaucrats and cowboys; bankers and deadbeats; fashion designers and beer drinkers. They draw no distinctions and recognize no classes; they are merely American.”Van: evola_as_he_is@... [evola_as_he_is]
Verzonden: maandag 30 juni 2014 20:36
Aan: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.comPlease also take note that special cases tend to become less special as times goes by.
Considering the level of the new White generations, one does not have to be a cynic not to blame some White females, given your premises, for being, so to speak, wise enough, when pregnant, not to give birth. On the other hand, and given that, to use J. Evolas’ own ‘terminology’, ‘vertical’ heredity and horizontal, historical, biological heredity are not necessarily connected in all cases, it could also be argued that these females, by aborting, prevent the birth of potentially differentiated children (see The Mystery of Birth Explained
“The romanticism of sin still remained the supreme seduction of Christianity. The latter gave pleasure the taste of danger and turned abjectness into a path of eminent sanctification. The ecstasy of the woman passionate for love who enjoys the dizziness of losing herself eternally for the luxury of one hour of forbidden pleasure answers the craving for humiliation by which the Saint is possessed, the need for self-degradation, the need to be snubbed for the glory of her Divine Spouse. Love becomes intoxicated with the sacrifices it accepts and the degradations it consents to. The wild temperament of Saint Theresa, her instinct for domination, mixed with the chivalrous ideal of her time, could only make her, either the reformer of the Carmelite order, or a court Lady, forming state intrigues, defying any human and divine law, and setting the Escurial on fire with her senses. Don Juan is closer to Saint John of the Cross than is assumed. Those with a troubled imagination, those who worry about their love life, are all aspirants to mystical ecstasy. Diderot said bluntly of Rousseau: « I see him hanging around a 'capucinière'” [figuratively, a religious establishment characterised by strict devotion]. Given their physical composition, women in particular yield to this appeal. By excluding them from an active role in the Divine Service, the Church humiliated them, but, by keeping them away from it because it deemed it dangerous for them, it fed their pride ; in proclaiming their flesh to be only corruption and ash, it challenged their beauty ; but, in making their body the chosen recipient of the Lord and the chief instrument of our ruin, it conferred upon their self-sacrifice an infinite value. All the refinement of courtly love and its perpetual flirt with nature, the whole romantic praise of passion, proceed from this. In its will to debase them, Christianity placed them on a pedestal. The Ancients would be surprised at the part they have in our daily concerns. The pleasures of the soul, the fascination for sin, which is all the more enjoyed as it is fought, the deification of love, remain the great magic of Christianity.” ('Celse contre les chrétiens', 1925)
So, once again, what we witness, as J. Evola once did who spoke of Protestantism as a “further development", is that this sect -, or, in the case at hand, Puritanism - only brought to fruition some particular tendencies of Christianity. It is so true that records (see Guy Breton) show that the sexual depravity of medieval German priests, and the consequent anger of churchy women’ husbands, may be considered as one of the factors of the rise of Protestantism.
- A very interesting display of the psychology involved.Did 'feminism' develop differently in Anglophone countries due to the influence of protestantism (another topic dealt with on that particular website)? Probably yes, but then it must be asked what constitutes these differences. Aren't the effects and outcome in Western European countries very similar?As we remember from reading R. Huntford's 'The new totalitarians' (http://www.scribd.com/doc/27911594/The-New-Totalitarians-by-Huntford-Roland) about the Soviet state of Sweden, it goes to great lengths pointing out the apparent societal differences between the UK and Sweden. In hinsight this seems rather superficial, the differences being only relative, regardless of historical developments.Also interesting is http://mises.org/daily/2225Van: evola_as_he_is@... [evola_as_he_is]
Verzonden: woensdag 9 juli 2014 10:12
Aan: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com“The romanticism of sin still remained the supreme seduction of Christianity. The latter gave pleasure the taste of danger and turned abjectness into a path of eminent sanctification. The ecstasy of the woman passionate for love who enjoys the dizziness of losing herself eternally for the luxury of one hour of forbidden pleasure answers the craving for humiliation by which the Saint is possessed, the need for self-degradation, the need to be snubbed for the glory of her Divine Spouse. Love becomes intoxicated with the sacrifices it accepts and the degradations it consents to. The wild temperament of Saint Theresa, her instinct for domination, mixed with the chivalrous ideal of her time, could only make her, either the reformer of the Carmelite order, or a court Lady, forming state intrigues, defying any human and divine law, and setting the Escurial on fire with her senses. Don Juan is closer to Saint John of the Cross than is assumed. Those with a troubled imagination, those who worry about their love life, are all aspirants to mystical ecstasy. Diderot said bluntly of Rousseau: « I see him hanging around a 'capucinière'” [figuratively, a religious establishment characterised by strict devotion]. Given their physical composition, women in particular yield to this appeal. By excluding them from an active role in the Divine Service, the Church humiliated them, but, by keeping them away from it because it deemed it dangerous for them, it fed their pride ; in proclaiming their flesh to be only corruption and ash, it challenged their beauty ; but, in making their body the chosen recipient of the Lord and the chief instrument of our ruin, it conferred upon their self-sacrifice an infinite value. All the refinement of courtly love and its perpetual flirt with nature, the whole romantic praise of passion, proceed from this. In its will to debase them, Christianity placed them on a pedestal. The Ancients would be surprised at the part they have in our daily concerns. The pleasures of the soul, the fascination for sin, which is all the more enjoyed as it is fought, the deification of love, remain the great magic of Christianity.” ('Celse contre les chrétiens', 1925)
So, once again, what we witness, as J. Evola once did who spoke of Protestantism as a “further development", is that this sect -, or, in the case at hand, Puritanism - only brought to fruition some particular tendencies of Christianity. It is so true that records (see Guy Breton) show that the sexual depravity of medieval German priests, and the consequent anger of churchy women’ husbands, may be considered as one of the factors of the rise of Protestantism.
- http://mises.org/daily/2225 seems to deliver a most insightful analysis of the rise of the welfare-State in the United States in the XIXth century, thus fulling confirming what we pointed out in message 1971 about State-capitalism, while giving factual ammunitions to those who, like J. Evola, criticised the Democratic 'State' on the basis of higher principles, and also unearthing its matriarchal substratum. We say "seems to", because we have not finished to read it yet. We are getting to know it whilst translating it.Scholarly research may be able to shed some light on the issue you have raised, and which, given that the increasingly conspicuous effects of 'feminism' are indeed very similar, can be considered and treated as secondary from a 'Samsaric' perspective.
---In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, <g.vdheide@...> wrote :A very interesting display of the psychology involved.Did 'feminism' develop differently in Anglophone countries due to the influence of protestantism (another topic dealt with on that particular website)? Probably yes, but then it must be asked what constitutes these differences. Aren't the effects and outcome in Western European countries very similar?As we remember from reading R. Huntford's 'The new totalitarians' (http://www.scribd.com/doc/27911594/The-New-Totalitarians-by-Huntford-Roland) about the Soviet state of Sweden, it goes to great lengths pointing out the apparent societal differences between the UK and Sweden. In hinsight this seems rather superficial, the differences being only relative, regardless of historical developments.Also interesting is http://mises.org/daily/2225Van: evola_as_he_is@... [evola_as_he_is]
Verzonden: woensdag 9 juli 2014 10:12
Aan: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com“The romanticism of sin still remained the supreme seduction of Christianity. The latter gave pleasure the taste of danger and turned abjectness into a path of eminent sanctification. The ecstasy of the woman passionate for love who enjoys the dizziness of losing herself eternally for the luxury of one hour of forbidden pleasure answers the craving for humiliation by which the Saint is possessed, the need for self-degradation, the need to be snubbed for the glory of her Divine Spouse. Love becomes intoxicated with the sacrifices it accepts and the degradations it consents to. The wild temperament of Saint Theresa, her instinct for domination, mixed with the chivalrous ideal of her time, could only make her, either the reformer of the Carmelite order, or a court Lady, forming state intrigues, defying any human and divine law, and setting the Escurial on fire with her senses. Don Juan is closer to Saint John of the Cross than is assumed. Those with a troubled imagination, those who worry about their love life, are all aspirants to mystical ecstasy. Diderot said bluntly of Rousseau: « I see him hanging around a 'capucinière'” [figuratively, a religious establishment characterised by strict devotion]. Given their physical composition, women in particular yield to this appeal. By excluding them from an active role in the Divine Service, the Church humiliated them, but, by keeping them away from it because it deemed it dangerous for them, it fed their pride ; in proclaiming their flesh to be only corruption and ash, it challenged their beauty ; but, in making their body the chosen recipient of the Lord and the chief instrument of our ruin, it conferred upon their self-sacrifice an infinite value. All the refinement of courtly love and its perpetual flirt with nature, the whole romantic praise of passion, proceed from this. In its will to debase them, Christianity placed them on a pedestal. The Ancients would be surprised at the part they have in our daily concerns. The pleasures of the soul, the fascination for sin, which is all the more enjoyed as it is fought, the deification of love, remain the great magic of Christianity.” ('Celse contre les chrétiens', 1925)
So, once again, what we witness, as J. Evola once did who spoke of Protestantism as a “further development", is that this sect -, or, in the case at hand, Puritanism - only brought to fruition some particular tendencies of Christianity. It is so true that records (see Guy Breton) show that the sexual depravity of medieval German priests, and the consequent anger of churchy women’ husbands, may be considered as one of the factors of the rise of Protestantism.
- A text which illustrates better the sexual depravity of medieval and, especially, renaissance pontiffs, prelates, cardinals, priests, monks, friars, etc. than that of Breton is the one at http://critiquehistorique.blogspot.fr/2014/03/histoires-des-papes-mysteres-diniquites.html This 3000-page book, which seems to have been translated into English, exhaustively details the lives of all the pontiffs of the Church. Its tone is atheist and republican but it does not matter as it deals only with historical facts substantiated with proofs. It contains many "explosive" revelations and is the ideal complement to "The Papal Drama".As for protestantism, it was viewed negatively by Evola and Guénon but I feel this view should be reconsidered. From a purely historical point of view, protestantism strongly contributed to the downfall of the papacy as a major political power able to give and take back crowns, which it was at least until the end of the seventeenth century. I also feel they did not have a clear knowledge of what papacy had been since its creation, how it damaged the White race and Europe. The papacy, that is the soul of christianity, has always been the eternal divider, the master of dividing and conquering, the eternal fomenter of wars (often siding with both parties, as big finance did in the last "world wars"), the suppresser of the best, jesuitism at every level before the famous society was even created, etc. In short, the anti-Aryan element par excellence.Of course, with protestantism idiotic religious wars - carrying profound dysgenic consequences - happened. But they were bound to happen in one way or another given the nature of christianity - its texts can be interpreted as one wishses - and, above all, the deplorable - but deserved - reputation christianity had gained for itself through the odious behaviour of its leaders. I have read in the book mentioned above the biographies of many of the popes of the so-called "renaissance", from Alexander VI to Urban VIII. The assessment of their actions is irrevocable: being themselves scum, they did all of the above. The few good-hearted popes were poisoned by their "fellow" cardinals just a few days after their election! Just as the richest candidate to the papacy would poison, murder or intimidate his competitors or those who would not yield to his will. Poison "replaced" "divine providence" in the fifteenth, sixteenth and seventeenth centuries!Just the consideration of these facts gives to protestantism some respectability because if the papacy had maintained its power much worse could have happened.
We do refuse to choose between the plague and the cholera, and we can only draw members’ attention again to J. Evola’s claim that Protestantism was a “further development" of Christianity, bringing to fruition some particular tendencies of Christianity. Among other studies, http://mises.org/daily/2225 illustrates sharply this view.
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