- I did not mean Evola has been cautious on polar myth but about the mysterious origin of Aryans race, at least to me. To say that Aryans come from a polar region does not exhaust completely that mystery. I would desire a world more about. That's all.About the underworld, we already pointed out the ambiguity of this concept. It is not casual that some people believe that the UFO come from that Hollow Earth and/or from the future. By the way, even if Evola quoted sometimes the flying saucers, unfortunately he was evasive about; but after all, even if we have today more information than him, the conclusions are scanty all the same.F.
- Since the publication of Joscelin Godwin's book on 'The Polar Myth',
the original concept has extended to encompass a wide range of occult
myths of the Arctic, such as that of the 'Hollow Earth', that of
the 'UFO's', that of the hidden kingdom of Shambala and Agartha, and
that of the Third Reich in Antarctica. To Evola and to other authors,
it was limited to the theory according to which the terrestrial seat
of Hyperborea, of Thule, was the home of the original man, that is,
of the original Aryan man.
Guénon himself, who, for reasons explained by Madison Grant in the
fifth chapter of 'The Decline of the White Race', was right and wrong
at the same time in contesting the existence of an 'Aryan race' in
the 'Introduction to the Studies of Hindu Doctrines', acknowledged
both the actuality of a terrestrial Hyperborea and its symbolic
dimension : "Almost every tradition has its name for this mountain,
such as the Hindu Meru, the Persian Alborj, and the Montsalvat of
Western Grail legend. There is also the Arab mountain Qaf and the
Greek Olympus, which has in many ways the same significance. This
consists of a region that, like the Terrestrial Paradise, has become
inaccessible to ordinary humanity, and that is beyond the reach of
those cataclysms which upset the human world at the end of certain
cyclic periods. This region is the authentic 'supreme country' which,
according to certain Vedic and Avestan texts, was originally sited
towards the North Pole, even in the literal sense of the word." (The
King of the World')
"To say that the Aryans come from a polar region does not exhaust
completely that mystery", if you refer to the thesis according to
which they come from space, which Evola never considered, even in the
article you mention : 'I "Dischi volanti" non sono palle a fulgore'
(''Flying saucers' are not fireballs'), 'Il Meridiano d'Italia', 21
November 1954, followed, one month after, still in the same paper,
by 'Attendiamo che cadono' ('We are waiting for them to fall'). The
former is based on the information gathered on the UFO's by... the
secret services of the US air force. Who said Evola didn't have any
sense of humour? In the latter, he made a prudent judgement on the
phenomenon, about which, according to him, it is premature to draw
conclusions, since "no UFO has ever fallen on earth" and, therefore,
no one has been able to examine them in a scientific manner to
determine whether or not the technology they are based on is human or
not.
This article ends up with a question which anyone conscious of
the 'occult war' should ask oneself : "WHAT'S THE AIM OF THE
APPARITION OF THE FYING SAUCERS?"
--- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "vandermok@a..."
<vandermok@l...> wrote:> I did not mean Evola has been cautious on polar myth but about the
mysterious origin of Aryans race, at least to me. To say that Aryans
come from a polar region does not exhaust completely that mystery. I
would desire a world more about. That's all.>
concept. It is not casual that some people believe that the UFO come
> About the underworld, we already pointed out the ambiguity of this
from that Hollow Earth and/or from the future. By the way, even if
Evola quoted sometimes the flying saucers, unfortunately he was
evasive about; but after all, even if we have today more information
than him, the conclusions are scanty all the same. - Madison Grant's most famous book is not called 'The Decline of the
White Race', as stated below, but 'The Passing of the Great Race',
translated in 1926 in French as 'Le Déclin de la grande race' (Payot,
Paris), with a pugnacious preface by Vacher de Lapouge.
--- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "evola_as_he_is"
<evola_as_he_is@y...> wrote:>
Myth',
> Since the publication of Joscelin Godwin's book on 'The Polar
> the original concept has extended to encompass a wide range of
occult
> myths of the Arctic, such as that of the 'Hollow Earth', that of
and
> the 'UFO's', that of the hidden kingdom of Shambala and Agartha,
> that of the Third Reich in Antarctica. To Evola and to other
authors,
> it was limited to the theory according to which the terrestrial
seat
> of Hyperborea, of Thule, was the home of the original man, that is,
wrong
> of the original Aryan man.
>
> Guénon himself, who, for reasons explained by Madison Grant in the
> fifth chapter of 'The Decline of the White Race', was right and
> at the same time in contesting the existence of an 'Aryan race' in
become
> the 'Introduction to the Studies of Hindu Doctrines', acknowledged
> both the actuality of a terrestrial Hyperborea and its symbolic
> dimension : "Almost every tradition has its name for this mountain,
> such as the Hindu Meru, the Persian Alborj, and the Montsalvat of
> Western Grail legend. There is also the Arab mountain Qaf and the
> Greek Olympus, which has in many ways the same significance. This
> consists of a region that, like the Terrestrial Paradise, has
> inaccessible to ordinary humanity, and that is beyond the reach of
which,
> those cataclysms which upset the human world at the end of certain
> cyclic periods. This region is the authentic 'supreme country'
> according to certain Vedic and Avestan texts, was originally sited
(The
> towards the North Pole, even in the literal sense of the word."
> King of the World')
the
>
> "To say that the Aryans come from a polar region does not exhaust
> completely that mystery", if you refer to the thesis according to
> which they come from space, which Evola never considered, even in
> article you mention : 'I "Dischi volanti" non sono palle a fulgore'
therefore,
> (''Flying saucers' are not fireballs'), 'Il Meridiano d'Italia', 21
> November 1954, followed, one month after, still in the same paper,
> by 'Attendiamo che cadono' ('We are waiting for them to fall'). The
> former is based on the information gathered on the UFO's by... the
> secret services of the US air force. Who said Evola didn't have any
> sense of humour? In the latter, he made a prudent judgement on the
> phenomenon, about which, according to him, it is premature to draw
> conclusions, since "no UFO has ever fallen on earth" and,
> no one has been able to examine them in a scientific manner to
or
> determine whether or not the technology they are based on is human
> not.
the
>
> This article ends up with a question which anyone conscious of
> the 'occult war' should ask oneself : "WHAT'S THE AIM OF THE
> APPARITION OF THE FYING SAUCERS?"
>
>
> --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "vandermok@a..."
> <vandermok@l...> wrote:
> > I did not mean Evola has been cautious on polar myth but about
> mysterious origin of Aryans race, at least to me. To say that
Aryans
> come from a polar region does not exhaust completely that mystery.
I
> would desire a world more about. That's all.
this
> >
> > About the underworld, we already pointed out the ambiguity of
> concept. It is not casual that some people believe that the UFO
come
> from that Hollow Earth and/or from the future. By the way, even if
information
> Evola quoted sometimes the flying saucers, unfortunately he was
> evasive about; but after all, even if we have today more
- pdf of grant's "passing of the great race"(386 KB):
http://www.solargeneral.com/library/PassingOfGreatRace.pdf
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To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com - In the two articles quoted, Evola remained neutral about the finality of the phenomenon, because, I presume, we have not sufficient information to judge, while the guenonian Jean Robin enclosed the Ufos in the weapons of the counter-initiation.I did not refer to a spatial/extraterrestrial origin, unless we intend it as supernatural. The interpretation of the phenomenon could be premature, but it is favouring the conspiracy of the silence and creating a sort of synthetic myth.F.Madison Grant's most famous book is not called 'The Decline of the
White Race', as stated below, but 'The Passing of the Great Race',
translated in 1926 in French as 'Le Déclin de la grande race' (Payot,
Paris), with a pugnacious preface by Vacher de Lapouge.
--- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "evola_as_he_is"
<evola_as_he_is@y...> wrote:>
the publication of Joscelin Godwin's book on 'The Polar
> Since
Myth',> the
original concept has extended to encompass a wide range of
occult>
myths of the Arctic, such as that of the 'Hollow Earth', that of> the
'UFO's', that of the hidden kingdom of Shambala and Agartha,
and>
that of the Third Reich in Antarctica. To Evola and to other
authors,> it was limited to the theory according to which the terrestrial
seat
> of Hyperborea, of Thule, was the home of the original man,
that is,> of the original Aryan man.
who, for reasons explained by Madison Grant in the
>
> Guénon himself,> fifth chapter of
'The Decline of the White Race', was right and
wrong> at the same
time in contesting the existence of an 'Aryan race' in> the
'Introduction to the Studies of Hindu Doctrines', acknowledged> both the
actuality of a terrestrial Hyperborea and its symbolic> dimension :
"Almost every tradition has its name for this mountain,> such as the
Hindu Meru, the Persian Alborj, and the Montsalvat of> Western Grail
legend. There is also the Arab mountain Qaf and the> Greek Olympus,
which has in many ways the same significance. This> consists of a region
that, like the Terrestrial Paradise, has
become> inaccessible to
ordinary humanity, and that is beyond the reach of> those cataclysms
which upset the human world at the end of certain> cyclic periods. This
region is the authentic 'supreme country'
which,> according to
certain Vedic and Avestan texts, was originally sited> towards the North
Pole, even in the literal sense of the word."
(The> King of the
World')>
not exhaust
> "To say that the Aryans come from a polar region does> completely that mystery", if you refer to the thesis
according to> which they come from space, which Evola never considered,
even in
the> article you mention : 'I "Dischi volanti" non sono
palle a fulgore'> (''Flying saucers' are not fireballs'), 'Il Meridiano
d'Italia', 21> November 1954, followed, one month after, still in the
same paper,> by 'Attendiamo che cadono' ('We are waiting for them to
fall'). The> former is based on the information gathered on the UFO's
by... the> secret services of the US air force. Who said Evola didn't
have any> sense of humour? In the latter, he made a prudent judgement on
the> phenomenon, about which, according to him, it is premature to draw
therefore,
> conclusions, since "no UFO has ever fallen on earth" and,
> no one has been able to examine them in a scientific
manner to> determine whether or not the technology they are based on is
human
or> not.
question which anyone conscious of
>
> This article ends up with a> the 'occult war' should ask oneself
: "WHAT'S THE AIM OF THE> APPARITION OF THE FYING SAUCERS?"
been cautious on polar myth but about
>
>
> --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "vandermok@a..."
> <vandermok@l...> wrote:
> > I did not mean Evola has
the> mysterious origin of
Aryans race, at least to me. To say that
Aryans> come from a polar
region does not exhaust completely that mystery.
I> would desire a
world more about. That's all.> >
we already pointed out the ambiguity of
> > About the underworld,
this> concept. It is not
casual that some people believe that the UFO
come> from that Hollow
Earth and/or from the future. By the way, even if> Evola quoted
sometimes the flying saucers, unfortunately he was> evasive about; but
after all, even if we have today more
information> than him, the
conclusions are scanty all the same.> >
F.
> > - Since you mentioned Jean Robin, we cannot resist the temptation to
say a few words about this character and some of his ambiguous
books : 'René Guénon, témoin de la Tradition' (Guy Trédaniel,
1978), 'Les Objets Volants Non Identifiés, ou La Grande Parodie' (Guy
Trédaniel, 1979), 'Seth, le dieu maudit' (Guy Trédaniel,
1986),'Hitler, l'élu du dragon' (Guy Trédaniel, 1987), 'Opération
Orth' (Guy Trédaniel, 1989), 'Le Royaume du Graal' (Guy Trédaniel,
1993) - 'Opération Orth' containing all you ever wanted to know about
Rennes-le-Château - and we must add that he shares one trait with one
of his favourite subjects, the 'extra-terrestrials' : the question of
whether either exists remains unclear.
Jean Robin is reported to have given an address in 1987 at the
Sorbonne, during a 'Politica Hermetica' meeting,
entitled 'Métaphysique et politique : René Guénon, Julius Evola'.
According to a member of a guenonian list, before publishing his
first book ('René Guénon, témoin de la Tradition'), Robin edited
an 'easy reading' series for a major French publisher called Robert
Laffont. A Hungarian 'traditionalist' site even gave us his year of
birth : 1946. According to other sources, he spent some time in a
convalescent home, due to an unfortunate 'psychic condition'.
His thickest book, 'Le Royaume du Graal', weighs, according to its
publisher, 824 grams. As some of you may already have worked out, it
has more than 666 pages. The publisher continues : "France, 'The
Eldest Daughter of the Church', spiritual heir of the Kingdom of
Judea, was designated right from its birth as the new Holy Land, the
receptacle of the ultimate theophanies, the sacred space where all
exiles end and all promises are fulfilled. But it is also - such is
the ambivalence of the symbolic - the evil athanor from which all
deception will arise. If the most sacred mystery of the Rheims
coronation leads us to consider current transgressions as mere
shadows of a future legitimacy, this prescience hints at a spendour
which will only be able to manifest fully at the end of times (...)
Philippe le Bel, Louis XIV and Napoleon, among others,
embodied this obscure face of the mission of France, while
prefiguring the great monarch who will pave the way for the
Antichrist. This combined sacralisation and execration of our country
are not the gimmick of a mystagogue, but a true predestination,
illustrated with mythomorphic geographic structures of impressive
rigour, which 'sign' the eschatological function of a kingdom
belonging to the resurrected Christ alone. To guide us at the
approach of this fearsome conjunction in the arcana of France,
Providence has created René Guénon, who was born on the same day that
the Grail stone, dear to Wolfram von Eschenbach - which matches
exactly the 'hexagonal Christal' of Gaul, once exalted by Strabo -
fell from the skies."
Leaving aside the millennarian lyricism of this advertisement to come
back to earth, it is said that the first edition of this book, which
some say the publisher hadn't actually read before publishing, was
taken off the market after a Jew, who bought it at the famous and now
defunct Table d'Emeraude in Paris, noticed that it contained certain
observations concerning "the hoax of the twentieth century". Any
attempt to expose this hoax arouses a general outcry in guenonian
circles ; the beliefs of some guenonians are not at all Guénon's.
Didn't Raymond Abelio, the self-proclaimed "destroyer of all
illusions", take this hoax for a fact in the third volume of his
memoirs ('Ma dernière mémoire', Ramsay, 1980 - p.113)? Manifestly, it
is easier for some people to deal with 'maya' on paper than it is to
deal with its various manifestations in history.
In 1969, a French astrophysicist called Jacques Vallée, who had
worked for NASA in the early 1960's, and had taken part in the NSF
computer networking project which was to give birth to the first
conferencing system, ARPANET, long before the advent of the internet,
published 'Passport to Magonia : From Folklore to Flying Saucers'
(Henry Regnery & Co., Chicago) : bringing together elements of
medieval European folklore and contemporary 'extra-terrestrial'
phenomena, he attempted to prove a structural continuity between
them. Vallée was chosen by Steven Spielberg as his model for the
character of the French scientist Lacombe in 'Close Encounters of the
Third Kind', a propaganda movie largely based on the story of the
Mosaic revelation. However, Vallée disapproved of the Jewish film-
maker's presentation of extra-terrestrials as harmless 'brothers'.
Another Frenchman, Bertrand Méheust, by contrast, went so far as to
see them as diabolical creatures. In 'Science-fiction et soucoupes
volantes - Une réalité mythico-physique' ('Science Fiction and Flying
Saucers - A Mythico-Physical Reality'), published by the prestigious
Mercure de France in 1978, he put forward the thesis that the 'extra-
terrestrial' phenomena were preceded by a preparation of
the 'ambiance' in the science-fiction literature, especially, of the
1930's, whose scenarii and images were in their turn 'whispered' to
their authors by diabolical suggestion, and, following on Vallée's
footsteps, that stories of abduction by 'extra-terrestrials'
originate in ancient myths.
A chapter of 'Le Royaume du Graal' draws its inspiration from the
work of those two authors : 'Extra-terrestres et antisémitisme'
('Extra-Terrestrials and Anti-Semitism'). Jean Robin goes further
than them, and risks the thesis of rival factions of 'extra-
terrestrials', and of human complicity with some of them.
Interestingly enough, this thesis is closely akin to the conclusions
of a report by the French Ministry of Defence to the French President
in 1999, which was published in the magazine VSD the same year, and
has since been discovered to be virtually a plagiarisation of a
report by the US Air Force of 1949 - see
http://ufologie.net/htm/air100-203-79f.htm . However, to the drafters
of those reports, there are "good extra-terrestrials" and "bad extra-
terrestrials", the former being supposed to save us at the last
moment from the latter, whereas, to Jean Robin, those creatures are
all diabolical, no matter which side they are on. Some may say that
this is not a detail.
"What is the purpose of the appearance of the UFO's?", Evola asked.
For Jean Robin, there is absolutely no doubt that it is meant to
prepare public opinion world-wide for the coming of the Antichrist,
which, according to Christian tradition, will pretend to be
the 'Second Coming' of Christ. In general, the "nouvelle religion
soucoupiste" is seen here as a neo-spiritualist parody of
Christianity : like Christianity, it has had its 'catacombs period'
and its martyrs, and, like Christianity, it has become popular
subsequently. He argues that neo-spiritualism's purpose is to
convince the entire world population that the ancient 'gods' of
polytheism were only deified 'civilising cosmonauts' (neo-
euhemerism), whose mundane aim has always been to work for peoples'
good ; the Ramayana and other mythological epics tell the story of
their arrival on earth. Among those ancient 'gods', emphasis is
placed on the Elohim, the fallen angels who seduced the wives of men
(chapter VI of 'Genesis'), who are considered to be the direct
ancestors of the 'chosen people'. In short, any Jew is a son of the
devil. Jean Robin denounces this equation between evil and the Jewish
people, which, according to him, is peculiar to the 'soucoupiste
religion' and the neo-spiritualist circles in which it was born. By
the vague and elastic term 'neo-spiritualism', what is meant here
seems to be essentially 'neo-paganism', behind which it is understood
that 'far-right' groups are hidden. At the risk of disappointing some
people, however, we must point out that neither the so-called 'neo-
pagan' GRECE, nor the official Asatru movement and its leaders, have
ever taken an anti-Semitic position. However, this equation has found
an echo in Catholic traditionalist circles, with the publication by
Marc Dem, the editor of a newsletter of theirs, of 'Les Juifs de
l'espace' (Albin Michel, Paris, 1974).
The fact remains, in any case, that Jean Robin is the only guenonian
to have dared to apply Guénon's ideas on counter-initiation to
the 'extra-terrestrial' phenomenon. For the French metaphysician,
counter-initiation originated in the knowledge transmitted by the
Elohim to men ; Jean Robin, as just pointed out, saw the Elohim
as 'extra-terrestrials'. In the chapter of 'Le Royaume du Graal'
called 'L'impossibilité des contacts interplanétaires' ('The
Impossibility of Interplanetary Contact'), Jean Robin resumed the
argument of the French metaphysician, according to which a minimum
of 'senses in common' between men and other forms of intelligent
life is necessary for them to be able to communicate. Another
chapter, 'OVNI et psychanalyse' ('UFO's and Psychoanalysis'), deals
with the subversive character of the Jungian theory of the archetypes
with respect to the 'extra-terrestrial' phenomena, already pointed
out by Julius Evola and René Guénon, namely, that Jung saw them as
purely oneiric, not to say hallucinatory ; by this means, Jean Robin
states, he prevented us from acknowledging their physical and
material reality and, thus, studying their real nature.
At this point, it is not without value to mention that Jean Robin
stated, with emphasis, that de Gaulle believed in the existence
of 'extra-terrestrials' and that he was a reader of Guénon.
Certainly, de Gaulle is said to have been most impressed by the
apparition of a UFO in the sky of Antananarivo in 1954, as he was
visiting Madagascar. In 1966, de Gaulle approved the idea of a secret
French study group on the 'extra-terrestrial' phenomenon, just after
the Yankees created the Condon commission for the same purpose.
However, the reader would be well advised not to lose sight of the
fact that, as we have said, the report by the French Ministry of
Defence to the (neo-gaullist) French President in 1999 is virtually a
plagiarism of a report by the US Air Force from 1949, and to bear in
mind that the return to power of de Gaulle in 1958 was firmly
supported by the ultra-secret department of the Yankee secret
service, the OPC, or Office for Political Coordination. All couples
have their domestic rows when there are guests : the U.S. and neo-
gaullist France have had domestic quarrels, but, deep inside, they
still love each other. As shown by Dominique Lorentz ('Affaires
atomiques', Les arènes, 2001), it was gaullist France which, from the
moment de Gaulle was pitchforked back into the Elysée, was put in
charge of building Israel's atomic installations, with the aid of the
Israeli scientists who had to a great extent created the Yankee
atomic bomb, and of scattering atomic technology across Iraq, Iran,
Japan, Taiwan, China, Egypt, and so on, the whole thing being
financed by Yankee money under the supervision of NATO. There has
been an obvious attempt for years in France, by many political
schemers and writers involved in the current gynaeco-democratic mess,
to mythologise gaullism and the figure of de Gaulle himself, creating
an impression that, in the absence of any serious statesmen to rule
the country, only this historical figure, treated as a sort of mummy,
could keep it alive ; so one suspects that Jean Robin's reflections
on the General may be a variant for esoteric circles of the same
tactics.
As a matter of fact, Jean Robin was not the first author to present
de Gaulle as a convinced guenonian. In 1982, a certain Révérend Père
Martin published a 500-page book called 'Le livre des compagnons
secrets' (Rocher) whose subtitle was more explicit : 'L'enseignement
secret du Général de Gaulle' ('The Secret Teaching of General de
Gaulle'). According to this author, de Gaulle was surrounded by a
secret circle of forty-five personages, who advised him and received
his confidences, and who became the bearers of his thought until
1958. The book examines the whole of French history, and the
eschatological concern of the 'secret circle' for the country and its
destiny, from a perspective which reminds one of Marxist
historiography. It contains many references to the work of René
Guénon - perhaps the author wishes us to believe it was no
coincidence that Jacques Benoist-Méchin, one of the two characters
who is reported to have played an 'occult' rôle for de Gaulle, was
sent by the French government on many missions in Arab countries
after 1958, especially to Cairo, Egypt? A critical analysis of 'Le
livre des compagnons secrets', published in the 28th October 1982
issue of the magazine Nostra and signed 'Bayard', voiced the
hypothesis that the book was meant to create a confusion between the
forty-five member group and the Prieuré de Sion, which, as is known,
also had forty-five French members, among them Jean Cocteau and André
Malraux.; it is accompanied by a drawing called "Le général de Gaulle
attendait le retour du grand monarque" ("General de Gaulle Awaits the
Return of the Great Monarch"). Incidentally, the inimitable Jean
Parvulesco tackled this subject in 'La spirale prophétique'
(Trédaniel, 1986).
Père Martin didn't leave it at that. In 1984, he laid it on a bit
thicker, with 'Le Renversement, ou La Boucane contre l'Ordre Noir'
('The Reversal, or La Boucane versus the Black Order'). In 1971, the
discovery was made "that a group of ex-Nazis is working behind the
scenes towards world domination", and Père Martin tells us all about
it. Joscelyn Godwin mentions this book in his 'Arktos : The Polar
Myth'.
Speaking of which, basing himself on the work of David Lewis and
Hermann Rauschning (whose unreliability, to put it mildly, is
mentioned by Dr Hakl), Jean Robin, in 'Hitler, l'élu du dragon',
tries to substantiate the thesis that Hitler was nothing but the
forerunner of the Antichrist, and that neo-National-Socialism -
something which exists only in the hazy heads of a few amateurs and
in the papers of the secret services - is closely connected with
Islamism. Unfortunately, the post-WW2 career of people like Degrelle
and Skorzeny, extraordinary warriors who, back in civilian life, lost
the centre which had made them what they were on the battlefield, has
given substance to this thesis.
Sooner or later, we would like to discuss a concept which influences
Dr Hakl's essay, without his mentioning it explicitly, and which is
linked to Jean Robin's attempt to show that Hitler was a forerunner
of the Antichrist : that of the diabolisation by Christians of the
highest manifestations of the Aryan spirit in history. In the
meantime, let us draw people's attention to the fact that the notion
of Antichrist is peculiar to the 'Judaism Lite' for goyim masses
which is Christianity. Let us hope that some of them have already
drawn from this the conclusions which are logically necessary from an
Aryan standpoint.
--- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "vandermok@a..."
<vandermok@l...> wrote:> In the two articles quoted, Evola remained neutral about the
finality of the phenomenon, because, I presume, we have not
sufficient information to judge, while the guenonian Jean Robin
enclosed the Ufos in the weapons of the counter-initiation.> I did not refer to a spatial/extraterrestrial origin, unless we
intend it as supernatural. The interpretation of the phenomenon could
be premature, but it is favouring the conspiracy of the silence and
creating a sort of synthetic myth.>
(Payot,
> F.
>
>
> Madison Grant's most famous book is not called 'The Decline of the
> White Race', as stated below, but 'The Passing of the Great Race',
> translated in 1926 in French as 'Le Déclin de la grande race'
> Paris), with a pugnacious preface by Vacher de Lapouge.
is,
>
>
>
>
> --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "evola_as_he_is"
> <evola_as_he_is@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Since the publication of Joscelin Godwin's book on 'The Polar
> Myth',
> > the original concept has extended to encompass a wide range of
> occult
> > myths of the Arctic, such as that of the 'Hollow Earth', that of
> > the 'UFO's', that of the hidden kingdom of Shambala and Agartha,
> and
> > that of the Third Reich in Antarctica. To Evola and to other
> authors,
> > it was limited to the theory according to which the terrestrial
> seat
> > of Hyperborea, of Thule, was the home of the original man, that
> > of the original Aryan man.
the
> >
> > Guénon himself, who, for reasons explained by Madison Grant in
> > fifth chapter of 'The Decline of the White Race', was right and
in
> wrong
> > at the same time in contesting the existence of an 'Aryan race'
> > the 'Introduction to the Studies of Hindu Doctrines',
acknowledged
> > both the actuality of a terrestrial Hyperborea and its symbolic
mountain,
> > dimension : "Almost every tradition has its name for this
> > such as the Hindu Meru, the Persian Alborj, and the Montsalvat of
of
> > Western Grail legend. There is also the Arab mountain Qaf and the
> > Greek Olympus, which has in many ways the same significance. This
> > consists of a region that, like the Terrestrial Paradise, has
> become
> > inaccessible to ordinary humanity, and that is beyond the reach
> > those cataclysms which upset the human world at the end of
certain
> > cyclic periods. This region is the authentic 'supreme country'
sited
> which,
> > according to certain Vedic and Avestan texts, was originally
> > towards the North Pole, even in the literal sense of the word."
fulgore'
> (The
> > King of the World')
> >
> > "To say that the Aryans come from a polar region does not exhaust
> > completely that mystery", if you refer to the thesis according to
> > which they come from space, which Evola never considered, even in
> the
> > article you mention : 'I "Dischi volanti" non sono palle a
> > (''Flying saucers' are not fireballs'), 'Il Meridiano d'Italia',
21
> > November 1954, followed, one month after, still in the same
paper,
> > by 'Attendiamo che cadono' ('We are waiting for them to fall').
The
> > former is based on the information gathered on the UFO's by...
the
> > secret services of the US air force. Who said Evola didn't have
any
> > sense of humour? In the latter, he made a prudent judgement on
the
> > phenomenon, about which, according to him, it is premature to
draw
> > conclusions, since "no UFO has ever fallen on earth" and,
human
> therefore,
> > no one has been able to examine them in a scientific manner to
> > determine whether or not the technology they are based on is
> or
mystery.
> > not.
> >
> > This article ends up with a question which anyone conscious of
> > the 'occult war' should ask oneself : "WHAT'S THE AIM OF THE
> > APPARITION OF THE FYING SAUCERS?"
> >
> >
> > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "vandermok@a..."
> > <vandermok@l...> wrote:
> > > I did not mean Evola has been cautious on polar myth but about
> the
> > mysterious origin of Aryans race, at least to me. To say that
> Aryans
> > come from a polar region does not exhaust completely that
> I
if
> > would desire a world more about. That's all.
> > >
> > > About the underworld, we already pointed out the ambiguity of
> this
> > concept. It is not casual that some people believe that the UFO
> come
> > from that Hollow Earth and/or from the future. By the way, even
- 'The fact remains, in any case, that Jean Robin is the only guenonian to have dared to apply Guénon's ideas on counter-initiation to the "extra-terrestrial" phenomenon.'This is no longer the case. Charles Upton, an American 'orthodox' guenonian who converted to Islam, wrote the following analysis of the meaning of the flying saucer apparitions in the context of the 'counter-initiation' (or occult war, if one prefers):
UFOs, Mass Mind-Control, and the Awliya al-Shaytan, by Charles Upton [An update of Cracks in the Great Wall: UFOs and Traditional Metaphysics; Sophia Perennis, 2005]
INTRODUCTORY NOTE: René Guénon, in The Reign of Quantity and the Signs of the Times, said that the darkness of our era is the result both of cyclical conditions—the inevitable degeneration of the cosmic environment in these last days of the Kali-yuga—and the actions of organized human groups, groups that are made possible by these conditions, and who also actively exploit them, so as to actualize negative potentials that, without their intervention, would remain latent; in the words of Jesus, “there needs be evil, but woe to him through whom evil comes.” Guénon called these groups working to invoke the most negative potentials of our times the “Counter-Initiation”; he also spoke of the opening up of “fissures” in the “great wall” that separates the material and the subtle domains, leading to the incursion of “infra-psychic forces” into our world, which will ultimately lead to its dissolution. It is my belief that the UFO phenomenon is an example of such forces, while the human groups who are apparently exploiting if not actually invoking these apparitions can accurately be described as agents the Counter-Initiation. The following article presents evidence of their activities, including their use of inverted forms of universal metaphysical principles as methods of mass social engineering and mind-control. We Traditionalists need to go beyond the sort of abstract, decorous lament with which we often address the present condition of our world, and directly confront the ingenious and active evil we must deal with in these times, so as to understand it in the most practical of terms. We cannot save the world, but we must, with God’s help, save our souls—a task that will be doubly difficult if we do not grasp the precise nature and agenda of the spiritual evil that is moving against us.
According to the best available evidence, the UFO phenomenon has three separate yet intimately related aspects:
1) It manifests in terms of real material-world events, detectable by radar and sometimes leaving behind physical traces, events that are inexplicable according to mainstream science, though certain theories of post-Einsteinian physics might be able to speculate legitimately on some aspects of them;
2) It is also a psychic phenomenon that profoundly alters the consciousness of those exposed to it;
3) It is apparently surrounded by deception activities which mimic it, produced by actual human groups, as Jacques Vallee has demonstrated in his book Messengers of Deception.
My central thesis regarding the UFO phenomenon is as follows: The UFO “aliens” are beings from another “dimension”—the world called in some systems the etheric plane, situated on the “isthmus” between the material world and the world of dreams and mental imagery. The etheric plane is home to the Jinn, the elemental spirits, the fairies, the Powers of the Air mentioned in Ephesians 2:2—the “air” in this sense denoting the subtle-material dimension. (The “border” between the etheric plane and the world defined by the five senses apparently has something to do with the electro-magnetic spectrum, as evidenced by the fact that the proximity of a UFO will often cause electronic equipment to malfunction.) Some of the denizens of that world are best described as demons. Not all etheric “nations” are demonic, just as not every fish in shark-infested waters is a shark; nonetheless the early Christian Fathers were very wise to counsel strict avoidance of that realm, especially since the people who most commonly interacted with it in their time—and are still doing so today—were (and are) the Pagan magicians.
The prime enigma is: How do the three aspects of the phenomenon relate to each other? Aren’t they mutually exclusive? If UFOs are a real physical phenomenon, doesn’t that mean that they have to be alien spaceships? If they are a psychic phenomenon, doesn’t that mean that they couldn’t be physical craft? And if the phenomenon is shown to be surrounded by human deception activities of the “Mission Impossible” variety, doesn’t that mean that the whole thing is a hoax?
No on all three counts. Demons are subtle beings inhabiting the psychic or etheric plane who can temporarily materialize themselves and various objects in this world, but who cannot remain on our material plane in stable form for very long—if they could, they wouldn’t have to possess people in order to work their evil in this world. (See Seraphim Rose, Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future.) And the deception activities of human groups, besides being attempts to piggyback on and use a phenomenon that the deceivers didn’t originate and can’t control (the same can perhaps be said for various human attempts to mimic alien “technology”) may actually be—or also be—acts designed not simply to deceptively imitate the “aliens” in order to influence mass belief, but to actually invoke them, in line with the practice of “sympathetic magic” as described in the classic work on mythology and primitive belief, The Golden Bough by Sir James Frazer. This depressing thesis leads us directly to the question of the possible involvement of the intelligence community and various arcane technologists, whose connection to the UFO phenomenon have been documented both by Jacques Vallee in Messengers of Deception and Peter Levenda in Sinister Forces: A Grimoire of American Political Witchcraft, in outright Satanism. (Levenda, for one, gives much well-researched evidence in support of this thesis).
The case of pioneer rocket scientist Jack Parsons comes immediately to mind. Parsons was a follower of black magician Aleister Crowley and an associate of L. Ron Hubbard, another follower of Crowley who founded the Church of Scientology and who also (according to my correspondence with Beat Generation writer William Burroughs in the late 1960’s, when Burroughs was in the process of breaking with Scientology) had a background in Naval Intelligence, something confirmed by Levenda. Parsons (according to Vallee) claimed to have met a “Venusian” in the Mojave Desert, performed Pagan rituals at his launchings (as recounted by Levenda), and went on to co-found the Aerojet Corporation and the Jet Propulsion Laboratory; a crater was named after him on the dark side of the Moon. In light of these revelations, I believe we should take seriously Eastern Orthodox priest Seraphim Rose’s assertion, in Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future, that the great expansion of the UFO phenomenon after WWII was in order to lay the psychic groundwork for the advent of the regime of Antichrist, particularly since there is no question that the mass belief in UFOs, whether conceived of as alien spacecraft or as “interdimensional” manifestations, has been an important element in the widespread pagan/occult revival that has so obviously weakened and undermined the world’s religions.
The French metaphysician René Guénon, The Reign of Quantity and the Signs of the Times, provides a solid metaphysical basis for idea of Antichrist by demonstrating that this figure (whom Muslims call al-Dajjal, “the deceiver”) is not simply a just-so fable that we must take on blind faith, but represents a necessary dialectical phase in the dissolution of the present cycle-of-manifestation, and the ultimate re-creation of the world. Guénon also provides a cosmological context for the UFO phenomenon, though he does not mention it by name, limiting himself to describing the breakthrough of “infra-psychic forces” due to the hardening of the cosmic environment under the regime of materialism (the phase he calls “Anti-Tradition”), followed by the psycho-physical fracturing of that environment in our own time (the phase of “Counter-Tradition”, i.e. false religion). Anti-tradition peaked in the 19th Century under the regime of “classical materialism”, while Counter-Tradition is expresses itself in terms of our present postmodern worldview, one that might be termed “magical scientism”. The upshot is that fissures are now starting to appear in the “great wall” separating the material world from the subtle-energy dimension, home to those entities that we regard, according to the scientistic paradigm, as “extra-terrestrial entities”. Seraphim Rose, citing many of the Eastern Orthodox saints and the Greek Fathers, as well as Guénon himself, draws many exact parallels between the UFO phenomenon and the experiences of the early Christian saints with the demonic powers, in the days when Christians were still a small minority within a largely Pagan society where the practice of magic was commonplace. Jacques Vallee, in Messengers of Deception and his other books, provides much evidence to support this thesis, though he himself does not assert it; and if Peter Levenda’s well-documented findings are accurate—findings that demonstrate the massive cross-pollenization since WWII between the military, the intelligence community and the power elite on the one hand and the world of the magicians and the occultists on the other—then we can say without fear of exaggeration that elements of the CIA and the “military-industrial complex” are involved in practices that can be accurately described as Satanism, whether or not they go by that name. If Jack Parsons, as Levenda shows, identified himself with Antichrist and dedicated himself to the destruction of Christianity, and if prominent psychic researcher Andrija Puharich, with all his connections to the intelligence community, was involved in channeling so-called “Extra-Terrestrial Intelligences”, for which read The Powers of the Air (see below), then is Seraphim Rose’s thesis, and mine, really that far-fetched? It will only seem far-fetched to those who do not accept the reality of the paranormal.
In his book The Nine (the first in the Sinister Forces trilogy), Levenda provides hard documentary evidence in support of many conclusions I myself had earlier reached, based mostly upon intuition and logic, and supported by only a few pieces of data I took as factual. For example, when I considered the information provided by Jacques Vallee that the UFO phenomenon is physical, and psychic, and also sometimes a product of human deception, I simply drew a logical inference: that if it is both psychic and physical, then it might well be a materialization (usually short-lived) of psychic realities in the form of physical objects and events, such as magicians have always reputedly been able to produce. And if it is also surrounded by human deception activities, I asked myself if such activities, at least on one level, might be invocations designed to catalyze these very materializations. This is the basic premise of the practice of “sympathetic magic” that was universal in the ancient world, and in the world of primitive tribes up to our own time: that in order to produce a phenomenon, the magician (after preparing suitable conditions) imitates it, as a Voudoo practicioner will stick pins in a doll so as to injure the person it represents. Anyone who has handled or bought a “rain stick” at their local health food store or Pagan Shoppe has come into contact with a traditional tool of sympathetic magic [. . .]
[. . .] In conclusion—leaving aside for now the possibility of organized demonic invocation to usher in the Antichrist, which not every reader will accept, to say the least—I believe that UFOs and alien contact are both very real phenomena and elements of a modern myth that has been partly created, and certainly widely manipulated, by various governmental and globalist forces for their own purposes. Until the UFO debunkers take the hard evidence for the reality of UFOs seriously, and the UFO believers do the same with the hard evidence that their conception of the phenomenon is being manipulated by people who do not have their best interests at heart, no sort of scientific, or psychological, or political objectivity will be possible with regard to the UFO phenomenon and its profound effects upon the human race.
---In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, <evola_as_he_is@...> wrote :
This article ends up with a question which anyone conscious of the 'occult war' should ask oneself : "WHAT'S THE AIM OF THE APPARITION OF THE FYING SAUCERS?" - The most interesting thing about this article is its explciit reference to methods of « mass social engineering » and of « mind-control », two expressions, two realities, which did not seem to belong to the vocabulary, to the plane of reality, of 'orthodox' guenonianism (Sophia Perennis, Upton's editor, is, if any, the organ of 'orthodox guenonianism', at least in the United States).
Upton's central thesis on the UFO phenomenon is closely akin to Vallée's. The former sums it up in this way : « The UFO “aliens” are beings from another “dimension”—the world called in some systems the etheric plane, situated on the “isthmus” between the material world and the world of dreams and mental imagery » ; beings exploited by « organized human groups »), while Vallée asks : « If UFOs did not have an extraterrestrial cause, if they were not space visitors, then what? I suggested that the phenomenon, or at least its social effects, might be closely monitored by a human group - not necessarily a government » (http://www.pdfarchive.info/pdf/V/Va/Vallee_Jacques_-_Messengers_of_deception_UFO_contacts_and_cults.pdf, p. 5). What separates them is that Upton implies that « aliens », albeit immaterial, do exist, whereas Vallée doubts it.
This provides an opportunity to point at an unexpected, and apparently unnoticed, oddity in the last chapters of 'The Reign of the Quantity'. There, the French author intermingles data from an 'esoteric' tradition with mythical stories from an 'exoteri' source, when he states that « the Antichrist must appear like something that could be called, using the language of the Hindu tradition, an inverted Chakravarti », thus equating by implication Jesus-Christ, or his alter ego in the Koran, with the Chakravarti, and giving him a metaphysical dimension which is however denied to Christianity in « Insights Into Christian Esoterism ». If the end of a manvantara is to be the inverted reflexion of its beginning, religious figures such as Jesus-Christ, or his alter ego in the Koran, having arisen respectively 2000 and 1300 years ago according to the established chronology, the problematic character of this analogy is easy to see. As a saviour, as a suffering divine figure, Jesus, or his Muslim alter-ego, cannot be considered in any way, by Guénon's own criteria, as a manifestation of the unmoved mover, of the 'primum movens', that is symbolised by the chakravarti.
As to the character of the « Antichrist », also referred to by a name that is far from being synonymous with it : « Antechrist » (while it is true that this term is only found in the French translation of the Bible, it should be noted that the « English understanding of anti always tended more to the strictly Latinate sense of the word, meaning, not merely 'opposed to' but also 'equivalent to' or acting as a 'substitue for' » (Mario Reading, "Nostradamus and the Third Antichrist'), and even 'before, in place and in time' (Benjamin Humphrey Smart, John Walker, A New Critical Pronouncing Dictionary of the English Language, p. 27). « Such verbal differenciation is crucial... » (ibid.), indeed.
From a Nordico-Aryan standpoint, the « Antichrist », as a figure 'opposed to' Jesus-Christ, to Semitism, would be welcomed with open arms, unless, of course, the « Antichrist » is only a name for an entity which is itself of a Semitic nature, in the context of infighting. In this context, the « Dajjal » would simply be a Christian, while, to a Christian, the « Antichrist' » would be either a Muslim, or, as has been the case since the « cruci-fiction », the whole Jewish people. - The full essay can be found here (only about half was excerpted above): http://www.sophiaperennis.com/uncategorized/ufos-mass-mind-control-and-the-awliya-al-shaytan-by-charles-upton-an-update-of-cracks-in-the-great-wall-ufos-and-traditional-metaphysics-sophia-perennis-2005/
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