The description you make of Baudelaire can be applied to thousands of
other men, to hundreds of other artists, whose work, however, was not
quoted in 'Metaphysics of Sex', which does not deal with opinions,
but with ideas.
Considering that Baudelaire's views on women are closely akin to that
of the other modern writers we mentioned, to that of all the great
ancient European writers and philosophers, and that not all of them
were "notoriously masochistic in (their) relationships with women and
actively sought out females that would in some way either emotionally
or physically abuse (them)", nor were they all "somewhat perversely
(...) attracted to" lesbians, it may be granted that that 'opinion',
which we would rather call an 'idea', originates in something higher
than the sexual plane, it being understood that that plane does not
constitute a criterion from a purely spiritual standpoint. Basically,
the question is whether a given individual is wholly conditioned, on
the plane of action and on that of thought, by sexuality or whether
that plane is determined, ruled and shaped in him by a higher
principle which remains completely free towards it. In this case, it
is a mistake to judge his actions and his ideas according to his
sexual orientation, a mistake which is made by those who, for
instance, try to discredit Yockey's work on that basis ; that trap
Yockey didn't fall into when, in 'Imperium', he criticises with an
ill-concealed disgust Baudelaire's poetry ; had he fallen into it, he
would have made a double mistake : the first one, which he actually
made, was to consider and to dismiss Baudelaire's work as a mere
product of nihilism and decadence devoid of any positive counterpart,
a positive counterpart which Evola, as for him, has perfectly seen,
and duly highlighted in 'Metaphysics of Sex' ; the second would have
been linked to the fact that his sexual orientations seem to have
been rather Baudelairian.
This too can be considered to a certain extent as quite Baudelairian,
leaving aside sexuality and poetry : "As a negative aspect, wherever
that disposition (the natural detachment from the human) appeared
confusedly, and involved my mere individuality, it generated a
certain insensibility and a coldness of soul" ('Il Cammino del
cinabro', p. 12).
Finally, what is also Baudelairian is the fact of not putting male
homosexuality and female homosexuality on the same plane.
The male-friend of Blavatsky who tried to make his dreams come true
by going so far as to homosexualise Tantric texts was Leadbetter,
an "agressive homosexual" if we are to believe the writer who
clarifies that point : "Hindu Buddhist Tantric texts do indeed use
sexual models and analogues in their esoteric tracts, so it is quite
in order if scholars and practitioners use these texts in support of
their sexual behavior, because the support is objectively there. But
no Tantric text implies any but heterosexual relations in its corpus.
The most recent authentic presentation of the place of sexuality in
Tibetan Tantrism (1) should suffice as a document for the rejection
of the esoteric innuendos in Leadbetter's writings". Please note that
this clarification is made by someone who thinks "the Gay Freedom
movement is well taken and should succeed" (
http://www.khandro.net/Rampa.htm ).
--- In
evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, Savitar Devi
<savitar_devi@y...> wrote:
>
> Your theory on the charity movement is interesting. I had once
heard that the rise of feminism was linked with the philosophy of
John Stuart Mill; however I have not explored this angle. Given that
feminism (as it currently exists) seems to be overtly modelled on a
total rejection of anything feminine, it seems likely that there was
male hand at play in its shaping.
>
> I don't think that one should relay too closely on Baudelaire's
opinion of women - the man was notoriously masochistic in his
relationships with women and actively sought out females that would
in some way either emotionally or physically abuse him. Hence the
type of women (in most instances, cruel whores, lesbians or other
forms of succubi) he is writing about, he is also, somewhat
perversely, attracted to. 'Flowers of Evil' is largely written in
praise of lesbians.
>
> Homosexual Tantra is simply not possible, no matter how much
homosexuals of either sex would like to appropriate it for themselves.
>
>
> evola_as_he_is <evola_as_he_is@y...> wrote:
>
> Although that question has not been studied yet, there are strong
> grounds for thinking that the rise of the femininist movement is
> closely linked to the development of the charity movement, which
was
> launched at the end of the XVIIth century in England by females of
> the bourgeoisie and by women of a certain aristocracy, namely the
> Urban one, whose husbands were involved in the so-called
> ongoing 'industrial revolution' and, therefore, in the uprooting
and
> in the pauperisation of the people. Here, it's not a case of the
left
> hand - the businessman's wife - giving back what the right hand -
the
> businessman - has taken away, or it is so only apparently : in
fact,
> the right hand takes away freedom, the relative and organic outer
> freedom which the ancestors of the peasants and of the workers of
> that time had, while the left hand gives handouts in return to
them,
> it being understood that 'handouts' is an euphemism for 'slavery'
and
> that the ancient slave had far more freedom in a generic sense than
> the modern slave, be it only because it is the little inner freedom
> that those individuals who accept charity may have which is taken
> away from them. The whole thing has been running smoothly since the
> beginning of the XIXth century. Left-right-left-right-let-right-
left-
> right-left-right. The whole thing is based on 8 and resentment.
When
> both hands meet, it's called 'charity business'.
>
> Once again, the considerations developed on the feminine nature and
> its consequences by Friedrich Nietzsche, Otto Weininger, as well as
> by Baudelaire, Gustave Flaubert, by Villiers de l'Isle-Adam, the
last
> offspring of one of the most ancient aristocratic Frank family,
> in 'L'Eve future', and by other French novelists of the late XIXth
> century, who, unlike their English counterparts, didn't have to
rely
> on the money of wealthy female intellectuals to be published,
spring
> to mind. "There seems to be a qualitative judgement formed by
women,
> that if something is written by another woman, then it must be of
> merit", and, we would add, that if something is written by another
> woman or by a male homosexual.
>
> As is well-known, one of the best male-friends of Blavatsky, who
> accompanied her to India on her first visit to that country and who
> interpreted Tantric practices from an homosexual standpoint, was a
> male homosexual. As is also well-known, it's been a long time since
> the 'House of Commons', the 'Reichstag' and the 'Assemblée
nationale'
> have turned into - to be polite - a true 'birdcages'.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Three heavens there are; two Savitar's, adjacent:
> In Yama's world is one, home of heroes.
> As on a linch-pin, firm, rest things immortal:
> He who hath known it, let him here declare it.
>
> - Rig Veda I.35 (Griffith)
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