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Re: authors on Evola and their reliability

Dear moderator,
I thank you for reading my articles so carefully. I am fully aware
that the Eurasian current is not exactly Evolian (to say the least)
and I do not reclaim his authority for it, but it is my conviction that
under the circumstances of today remains the only possible
option. Others may dispute this. But what I think we could agree,
is that any Eurasian movement (or any European movement
also) should take into consideration the critic by Evola on Yockey
(who can be seen as a kind of forerunner of western
Eurasianism), so to avoid the same mistakes (building on
civilzation instead of culture, f.e.). Anyway this is not so much a
question of Evolian scholarity.
But I must say that I am bit shocked by the sentence you quote
from the English translation "Julius Evola, A Philosopher in the
Age of the Wolf", because I would never have written this and it
seems that I did not check this translation, which was made by a
known English person, who wished not to be named.
As can be seen in the German version
http://www.geocities.com/traditionundmetaphysik/wolfszeit.html
I only spoke of the fixation of some of the governments (mainly
the German, of course). This is a fact which Evola was aware of
in the thirties and did write about - although cautious -, even in
the introduction to the "Protocols". He always tried to see the
Jewish question in context and not as a idée fixe. Therefore I
have never said and would not that he had to correct himself in
this question. In difference to the short time Freemasonry
influence. In general my article might simplify some complex
questions due to the fact it was written for a paper and was not
longer as it is, at the same time cover the whole life and not only
extolling.
As to the critic in an earlier message about Hansen´s
mentioning of Otto Braun, I can only say that I just have read the
introduction to the new edition of "Saggi sull' Idealismo Magico"
by Franco Volpi, and he also mentions the role of Braun for the
philosophy of "magic idealism".

Best Greetings,

Martin Schwarz

http://www.kshatriya.tk



--- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "evola_as_he_is"
<evola_as_he_is@...> wrote:
>
>
> From a scholarly point of view, the preface to 'Riding the Tiger'
is
> a worthy introduction to the work of Julius Evola. It's well-
> documented, well-structured, very informative. Its descriptive
part
> is indeed trustworthy. After all, the author has been familiar
with
> the subject of his study for more than 35 years, during which
he has
> translated Evola's main works into German. It's its critical part
> which is problematic, for a reason which, since you seem to
have had
> the good idea to browse the messages of this forum, you are
aware of.
> It is problematic to the extent that his criticisms of Evola's
supra-
> Fascist stands are made from an infra-Fascist point of view,
that is,
> to say, a democratic point of view, which, to Evola, is worthless
;
> at best : a symptom of decay ; it is illegitimate and absurd to
> assess qualitative values according to quantitative criteria.
This is
> coupled with an unfortunate tendency to make apologies for
so-called
> mistakes for which Evola never apologised, since he never
considered
> them as mistakes, to start with.
>
> Along the same lines, but in a less pronounced manner, Martin
Schwarz
> claims the Italian writer said things that he didn't and had
thoughts
> he didn't have. Contrary to what is stated in
> http://www.centrostudilaruna.it/jenseitseng.html/, Evola
> never "judged his single-minded fixation on the "Jewish
question" of
> the 1930s governments as a mistake, traceable to those
hidden powers
> that were thus able to pursue their own activities in the
background"
> and cannot be said to have had a "fixation" about it., to start
> with. Some people, who exaggerate Reghini's influence on
Evola, may
> think that the latter "had been forced into a narrow,
anti-Catholic
> direction under the influence of Freemasony", but Evola
> never "thought himself" that it had been the case.
>
> Schwarz doesn't beat about the bush. When he indulges in
wishful
> thinking, this gives rise to absurd interpretations, such as the
one
> according to which "Evola's review of Francis Parker Yockey's
> Imperium" would be "a kind of blue-print for most of the
movements
> seeking to establish the Eurasian New Order" ; obviously, he's
trying
> to lend credibility to a movement which cannot but appear as
highly
> suspect to any truly conscious European, for reasons set out in
some
> of our previous messages on Eurasianism and
National-Bolshevism.
> Leaving this aside, the picture which is drawn of Evola's work
in the
> article and in the interview
> (http://www.rosenoire.org/interviews/schwarz.php/) is quite
faithful,
> and some remarks are quite relevant :
>
> "Evola was not really interested in what is commonly
> called "religion".
>
> "Evola is not primarily interested in history as such. He is
> concerned with the contact to the immutable, eternal centre of
Being".
>
> "More than others, he deserves to be called a "loner," a solitary
> thinker in a derelict landscape: the philosopher in the Age of
the
> Wolf".
>
> even though they would gain at being clarified.
>
>
> --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "lordofthespear"
> <hailtocryptogram@> wrote:
> >
> > Is the preface written by H.T. Hansen really not that
trustworthy?
> I'm
> > quite surprised to hear that, there's really much to learn for
our
> > non-Italian readers.
> > What about Martin Schwarz? I haven't seen his name being
mentioned
> > here (perhaps for a similar reason, then?).
> >
> > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "evola_as_he_is"
> > <evola_as_he_is@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > The authors who had an influence on him Evola mentioned
in his
> self-
> > > biography. Obviously, the writer of this preface, against
which
> we have
> > > already warned firmly, knows better than him who exactly
> influenced his
> > > thought.
> > >
> > > The only question here is: by whom is the thought of the
writer
> of this
> > > preface influenced, consciously or not?
> > >
> > > Thompkins&Cariou
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "skyegamble89"
> > > <skyegamble89@y...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In Dr. H.T. Hansen's introduction to "Men Among the
Ruins", he
> > > > mentions Otto
> > > > Braun as being a decisive influence upon Evola's
thought. I'm
> > > > ordering his
> > > > (Braun's) diaries, but I haven't been able to find any
> information
> > > > about Braun
> > > > himself. Does anybody have any information? Hansen's
assertion
> that
> > > > Braun
> > > > was one of three decisive influences upon Evola's
thought
> (along with
> > > > Michelstaedter and Weininger) also seemed suspect to
me- again,
> any
> > > > information would be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you,
> > > > Skye J. Gamble
> > >
> >
>









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In Dr. H.T. Hansen's introduction to "Men Among the Ruins", he mentions Otto Braun as being a decisive influence upon Evola's thought. I'm ordering his ...
skyegamble89 Offline Send Email Jul 21, 2005
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Hello, The authors who had an influence on him Evola mentioned in his self- biography. Obviously, the writer of this preface, against which we have already...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Jul 21, 2005
12:08 pm

Is the preface written by H.T. Hansen really not that trustworthy? I'm quite surprised to hear that, there's really much to learn for our non-Italian readers. ...
lordofthespear Offline Send Email Apr 11, 2006
10:30 pm

From a scholarly point of view, the preface to 'Riding the Tiger' is a worthy introduction to the work of Julius Evola. It's well- documented, well-structured,...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Apr 14, 2006
7:00 pm

Dear moderator, I thank you for reading my articles so carefully. I am fully aware that the Eurasian current is not exactly Evolian (to say the least) and I do...
traditionalis Offline Send Email Apr 16, 2006
9:22 am

We trust that this unfortunate mistranslation will be corrected as soon as possible. Manifestly, it is not due to a misreading of the German original. Although...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Apr 17, 2006
8:50 pm

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