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I have enjoyed this exposé, but can I ask, what do you make of
Christian Identity groups? I assume that they would take offence, at
you calling Yahweh a "demonic miscreator". They are dispensionalist
Christians, who not unlike their somewhat weaker non-racial
ideologists the British Israelites, believe that they are from a
certain genetic seed line stemming from Adam to Abel. All other non
whites are of course from Eve, the line of Cain, as far as I
remember. Confusing?
As the name, British Israelite and Christian Identity imply they are
the chosen Judaic race, whilst Christian Identity would be very much
at odds with the Christian Zionism of Billy Graham.
So if you can give a Gnostic interpretation of the Christian
Identity belief system, I would be surprised, but then maybe not. As
I stated, due to their Judaic particularity both groups have a very
fundamentalist Christian orientation. One stemming from the promised
land mentality typical of the 17 and 1800s and the other from
millenarian nostalgia typical of the industrial epoch and British
expansionism. Perhaps Rosenberg does share some of these traits, a
Nazi Volk for his chosen race. Or was, it just to keep the same old
Lutheran bible bashers, happy? And is this not at odds with those of
a more Pagan orientation that would appeal to Irminsul thinking?











--- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "brightimperator"
<brightimperator@...> wrote:
>
>
> From the very beginning, it seems, there was serious conflict
between
> two starkly opposed strands of Christianity: the gnostic, Greco-
Persian
> dualist group, and the Judaic, Noahide faction that we see largely
> victorious over the world-mob today.
>
> This judaistic, Noahidic Christianity is the one Nietzsche
attacked when
> he said a Christian is "only a Jew of a 'freer' confession of
faith".
>
> The source of the defeated Christianity is actually the lands of
the
> Aryans of the East, Persia and India. This defeated Aryan impulse
was
> powerful enough at the birth of Christianity to figure in the
mainstream
> Gospels in the form of the wise Magi from the East. The struggle
between
> the Aryo-Christians and the Judaizers, and the practical victory of
> Judea, is encoded in the gospel account of the Council of
Jerusalem and
> its promulgation of Noahidic Judaic legalisms for the lower-
ranking,
> non-Hebrew Christians.
>
> Irano-Aryan dualist Christianity posits a decisive difference
between
> the benign Christian God, "the Holy Spirit", nourisher of the
positive
> aspects of creation, and the demonic miscreator Yahweh, Old
Testament
> God of Israel, the source of existent non-existence and
unrestrained
> materialism, worshipped by the primitive Jews who have not
attained the
> progressive moral maturity to distinguish in life between the
inferior
> and the higher. Notice the key fact that the words Jehovah and
Adonai
> are absent from the New Testament. God is simply "Father".
>
> The ambiguous figure of Alfred Rosenberg certainly doesn't
represent the
> pinnacle of human intellectual culture, but he actually reveals the
> basis of a "positive Christianity" compatible with Helleno-Aryan
Western
> culture in his constant reference to the "lost, anti-jewish
> Christianity" of the ancient Gnostics and the Irano-Aryan dualist
> heretics of the Middle Ages.
>
> Relatedly, Manichaeism teaches the Realm of Light and the
transcendent
> Christ are located in the North, while the Prince of Darkness
reigns in
> the South with his giants and demons.
>
> Manichaeism, formulated by the Aryo-Persian aristocrat Mani,
constituted
> an occult influence on the Catharistic Arthurian Grail mythos,
which, as
> Evola demonstrates in his "The Mystery of the Grail", is bound up
with
> the spirit of the Nordic peoples.
>
> In terms of Evola's ideal opposition between the Light of the
North and
> the Light of the South, this Manichaean doctrine carries an
extended
> racial-metaphysical meaning: the Southern kingdom of Satan and his
> spiritually dense black and semitic demonic troops arrayed against
the
> King of the Paradise of Light (Thule) of the Hyperboreans.
>










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From the very beginning, it seems, there was serious conflict between two starkly opposed strands of Christianity: the gnostic, Greco-Persian dualist group,...
brightimperator Offline Send Email Feb 24, 2006
8:11 pm

I have enjoyed this exposé, but can I ask, what do you make of Christian Identity groups? I assume that they would take offence, at you calling Yahweh a...
darkiexx Offline Send Email Feb 25, 2006
12:03 pm

Perhaps my last post was misunderstood. I agree with Schopenhauer, Guenon, and Schuon that the literalist folk mythology in religion is intended for those...
brightimperator Offline Send Email Feb 28, 2006
10:41 pm

The introduction to Schuon's 'The Transcendent Unity of Religions' deals with this subject in a very unmderstandable and approachable manner. The line between...
Troy Southgate
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Mar 1, 2006
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"It seems", as you say. Christianity is a syncretism of many different and, for some of them, antithetical beliefs and knowledge, whether exoteric or of an ...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Mar 1, 2006
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The Talmud calls Jesus "ben Pantera", this is the adulterine son of an obscure Roman soldier, but not for suggesting a Jesus' Aryan origin, but just a bastard...
vandermok
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I praise your excellent, clear-sighted, no-nonsense and erudite analysis, and I agree in substance with all of your points. Of course, I merely state for...
brightimperator Offline Send Email Mar 2, 2006
10:25 am

To Evola, Rosenberg is by far the most authoritative and qualified National Socialist author as far as the racial question is concerned. In 'Il Mito del...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Mar 6, 2006
9:01 pm

Swasti! Wasn't it Evola's motto "poor in words, rich in great deeds" or simpy "Mehr Sein als Scheinen?" Belicose polemics are nice but rather ...
Widar Wulfarson
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Actually the whole 'female teachers' issue is relevant, especially in this country, where we have a very severe shortage of male teachers. The interesting...
Savitar Devi
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In your country, where there is a very severe shortage of male teachers, you should consider whether you would still want to place the education of youth in...
zenon_noir Offline Send Email Mar 7, 2006
2:42 pm

... Would the importance of this statement be tied to whether or not these differences arise from internal or external factors...i.e. the nature vs. nurture...
Savitar Devi
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Mar 8, 2006
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Do we "really" think that the sun shines and the moon reflects the light of the sun, that fire is hot and that water is wet, that, during a storm, if you open...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Mar 7, 2006
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"It ensues from this that it is absurd to try to de-christianise a people without having previously extirpate from it everything which, on the plane of the...
Toni Ciopa
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True, there hasn't been a historical record of the reversal of the degeneration of castes. That remark is most important, even in a society which is no longer...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Mar 8, 2006
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"Is anyone able and willing to clarify what the relations between such forms and Christianity should obviously be?" Some points need to be clarified because it...
Toni Ciopa
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Mar 9, 2006
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In 'Revolt against the Modern World' and in other texts, Evola acknowledges willingly that the Church, from the Early Middle Ages to the XIXth century, was a...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Mar 10, 2006
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The legendary cavern where the she-wolf suckled Romulus and Remus could be the rival of the cave of the nativity in the collective imagery. In the Lupercalia,...
vandermok
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Mar 11, 2006
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The somewhat licentious and 'Southern' (as Evola would say) nature of this festival is probably attributable to the pre-Indo-European Pelasgians--it predates...
brightimperator Offline Send Email Mar 13, 2006
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In 'La mistica della razza in Roma antica', an article published in 'La Difesa della Razza' in May 1940 and which those who can read French will be able to...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Mar 15, 2006
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These rites seem similar to the German Percht or Wilde Jagd....
Widar Wulfarson
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The Lupercalia were related to the lupus, the wolf, not just an animal from the Pelasgian imagery. The conversion of the ritual from the wolf to the goat is...
vandermok
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Mar 14, 2006
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It is interesting to note, that Adam means Red, the Egyptian Set's Crown is Red and Jesus is called the second Adam (red) and that Christos numerically...
darkiexx Offline Send Email Apr 4, 2006
4:04 pm

As Nietzsche indicated, the House of David was the Aryanized 'master race' of Judaism. Since its extinction, the mongrel slave caste we know so well today...
brightimperator Offline Send Email Apr 6, 2006
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Nietzsche, The Will to Power, 145: "What an affirmative Semitic religion, the product of the ruling class, looks like: the law-book of Mohammed, the older...
brightimperator Offline Send Email Apr 6, 2006
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Jung talks about the age of Christ and the age of Pisces. http://www.geocities.com/astrologyages/jungageofpisces.htm ...
darkiexx Offline Send Email Apr 6, 2006
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"Jesus is (...) considered by Rosenberg as a 'great personality' : this acknowledgement, however, is combined with the racist resumption of an old gossip :...
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It is not certain that the non-Jewish lineage of Jesus is only a 'fabrication of the Talmud of Babylon'. Other early non-Talmudic sources also testify of...
brightimperator Offline Send Email Apr 7, 2006
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Had he been realist in the higher, Roman, sense, C.J. Jung would have realised that it is precisely in the fact that "the Christ symbol is psychologically...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Apr 9, 2006
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"would a de-feminized, knightly, hierarchical-initiatory Christianity resurrected on an 'ariognostic' and Eckhartian basis, the "regal religion of (the...
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