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Elements of Racial Education -- Chap 4

Hello,

Would it make sense to stop applying to a given author's position
the word precisely chosen by him to define his position? Of course,
it wouldn't. Now, Evola defined his position by the term "racism"
("razzismo"), and, when he chose it, there are strong grounds for
thinking that he knew what he was doing, especially since he strove
to arrive at a more accurate and less abstract definition of it than
those given by German, French, and Italian racialists.

"Razzismo" is a recurring word in Evola's vocabulary in his books on
the question of race, in 'Indirizzi per una educazione razziale' as
in the others. According to the context, it was translated by us
either by "racial theory"or, simply, by "racism", in spite of the
fact that the term "racism" has assumed more and more pejorative
connotations since the end of WW2, since the military defeat of the
countries in which it was seen, instead, as a positive concept and
the only winner of this war, a people which, to quote Evola, may be,
in some respects, the most racist people, namely the Jew, having
understood that the hostilities were still going on on other planes,
such as that of the language, has seen to it, through the media and
the education system of Western countries he has taken control of,
that the meaning of words are changed, or ar least, so to speak,
jammed. Racism is now commonly defined as an attitude of systematic
hostility from one human group towards another. However, some
dictionaries still offer a definition of "racism" which is closer to
the original one: "an ideology which affirms the superiority of a
racial group over another, advocating, for instance, segregation"
(Larousse, 1976) (those who wrote this dictionnary couldn't be
expected to let their readers know that Apartheid was the regime
peculiar to the Jewish colony of South Africa) ; "an ideology based
on the belief that there is a hierarchy between human groups"
(Larousse, 1993) (you will have noticed that, here, the word "race"
doesn't even appear: by getting rid of words, some people may think
that they will get rid of the living reality it represents).

"And if Fascist Italy, among the various Western nations, Evola said
in 'Il Problema della supremazia della razza bianca' (Lo Stato,
1936), is the one which first (...) wished for a reaction against
the degeneration of the materialist, democratic and capitalist
civilisation, (...) against the League of Nations ideology, there
are grounds for thinking, without even any scintilla of chauvinistic
infatuation, that Italy will be on the front line among the forces
which will guide the future world and will restore the supremacy of
the white race". Evola's racism is simply not based on the idea that
there is a hierarchy between races; it doesn't try to show it, so
self-evident it is, it presupposes it and goes further. It is not a
point of arrival - it is a starting point. "Racism appears as a
will - which could well be called classical - of 'form', of 'limit',
of individuation" ('Sintesi di dottrina della razza'). Even to go no
further than the race of the body, it is clear that all races have
different possibilities of form, of individuation. Those differences
are qualitative. Just as, in any race, there is a hierarchy between
men, there is a hierarchy between races.

In any case, needless to say that it is not because pejorative
connotations have been grafted to the term "racism" as people were
loosing what little left they had of race that those who haven't
lost it should feel guilty about using it or even exclude it from
their vocabulary, on the contrary. In this case, they should also
stop using the word "tradition" or "hierarchy", under the pretext
that it has become a pejorative word outside 'traditionalist'
circles. We don't have the means to prevent cultural distorters from
distorting; however, let's make sure that we don't get distorted by
them and we don't get contaminated by 'guilt' and other Semitic hare-
brained ideas.


Thompkins&Cariou


--- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Rowan Berkeley"
<rowan_berkeley@y...> wrote:
> Tony says "One has to wonder whether it even makes sense to
continue
> to apply the word "racism" to Evola's position."
>
> -- I agree, and have always argued against using this term in the
> translations.







Thu May 26, 2005 3:44 pm

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Tony says "One has to wonder whether it even makes sense to continue to apply the word "racism" to Evola's position." -- I agree, and have always argued...
Rowan Berkeley
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May 26, 2005
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Hello, Would it make sense to stop applying to a given author's position the word precisely chosen by him to define his position? Of course, it wouldn't. Now,...
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Hello, Alternative voices for racism would show we do not believe in the race any more. All the rest is pure diplomacy, if not cowardice. Hitler and Mussolini...
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May 28, 2005
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Obviously, it was a rhetorical suggestion, not necessarily to be taken literally. Presumably, the point of writing books - and even personal discussions - is...
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Jun 3, 2005
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In this chapter – “Race and Nation” – Evola clarifies the distinction between race and nation. By “race”, Evola means something more specific and...
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May 28, 2005
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In this section - "Meaning of Racial Prophylaxis" - Evola suggests some actions required by the situation of impure races in the nations (a topic addressed in...
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May 31, 2005
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In this section, "The Danger of Counter-Selection", Evola continues the discussion of "racial prophylaxis". He mentions the need for a precise racial ideal...
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Jul 10, 2005
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Evola now expands on his understanding of race in this chapter entitled "Spirit and Race". Evola accepts the traditional tripartite understanding of man and is...
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Jul 12, 2005
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Chapter 9, "Importance of the Theory of the Inner Races", may serve to begin to clarify precisely what Evola is "seeing". The fundamental doctrine of this...
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Dec 8, 2005
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This is how Evola describes the man of race: Soul: The soul experiences the world the world as something before which it takes a stand actively, which regards...
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Dec 8, 2005
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Chapter 10 is titled "The Face of the Various Races". Evola explains that the broad racial categories of white, black, yellow, red, etc. do not suffice. He...
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Dec 9, 2005
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In this chapter, "The Problem of Spiritual Races", we reach the core of Evola's project. As previously mentioned, race manifests itself not only in body and...
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Dec 19, 2005
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This chapter holds the key to everything Evola. It is clear that he opposes the Enlightenment ideal that reason and the empirical sciences will create a body...
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Dec 19, 2005
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After scrutinizing the multitude of previous posts on this list, I feel (suprarationally) that I am now reasonably up to date with the progression through the...
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4:22 pm

Evola refers to the traditional distinction between soul and spirit in countless occasions, and explains it, from 'Revolt against the Modern World' to 'The...
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5:06 pm

This is why it is helpful to have the text ready at hand, rather than to rely on a summary. The race of the soul is "connected to life", that is, the "quality...
Tony Ciopa
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Dec 22, 2005
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Everybody knows the hermetic transposition of body, soul and spirit was sulphur-salt-mercury, while in the Olympian hierarchy are the three divine brothers,...
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Dec 22, 2005
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The title of Chapter 12 is "Races and Origins" in which Evola points out the importance of the study of origins and prehistory. But first, he must dispose of...
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Dec 24, 2005
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I do not know how much reliable, but here is an evolian solstice thought on 'ex oriente lux': S. H. Nasr refers that when he met Evola in Rome and asked about...
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Dec 25, 2005
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Evola certainly did not show the leniency you are displaying towards the current Italian people, since he added that post-war Italy had become the kingdom of...
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I thank the owner to quote the Evola's reference to pizza and gondolas: now I feel more at home here, but my intention was only to point out the uselessness of...
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Dec 27, 2005
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In several places, Evola explains what he means by "seeing", or direct intuitive knowledge of reality. He opposes this type of knowing to its alternatives: the...
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Dec 30, 2005
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In Hinduism the term for this type of 'sight' (applicable only in a metaphorical sense and not a direct epistemological one) is Darsana. This is the type of...
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Dec 31, 2005
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It would be better to know the thing directly rather than the most precise definition of the thing. ... From: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com...
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Dec 31, 2005
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In this chapter entitled "Nordic-Western Migrations", Evola introduces a fundamental theme of his doctrine of race, viz., that the primordial origin of the...
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Jan 3, 2006
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Evola clarifies "the Problem of "Latinity" in this chapter. He takes pains to dispel the idea of "Latinity" as applied to Italy at that time. The Latin myth is...
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Jan 9, 2006
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Chapter 15 is entitled "Race, Romanity and Italian History". Here, Evola enunciates the principle that "in order to progress form racial theory to practice,...
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Jan 23, 2006
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In <evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com> Tony Ciopa <hyperborean@...> wrote. ... Are you sure on the word Church, or is a lapsus for Ghibellinism?...
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Jan 23, 2006
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This is the full passage: "In the Middle Ages, as is well known, the Church tried hard to resuscitate the supranational symbol by combining with it the ideas...
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Jan 24, 2006
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I see: it depends on the quibbles in translating. Since the verb "to produce" is not present in the original, I read better the sentence this way: "combining...
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