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The Counter-Initiation and their Plans for the Immediate Future

Hello,

The problem of Judaism and Freemasonry has recently been addressed,
indeed. It has even been tackled, by a man who did not seem to have
any interest in the literary genre of prophecy. When, in an interview
he gave to two enthusiastic young Italian men at the end of the
1960's (it can be found in a paper recently published by la
cittadella on Evola), asked at some point what he thought about the
Nostradamian prophecy of the destruction of Rome, he answered that he
had never heard about it.

Guénon, as to him, considered the phenomenon of prophecy in the
chapter XXXVII of 'Le Règne de la quantité'. Is it by chance that
this chapter, precisely called 'la duperie des "prophéties"', is
found between a chapter called 'pseudo-initiation' and a chapter
called 'De l'antitradition à la contre-tradition'? Another
interesting point to note is that, while distinguishing between the
word 'prophéties', which, according to him, can only be applied to
announcements of future events which are found in the sacred books of
various traditions, and the word 'prédictions', the chapter in
question is still called 'La duperie des "prophéties"' and not, as
one may have expected, 'La duperie des prédictions', since, besides a
few hints at the Bible, the chapter deal mainly with 'prédictions'.
In the third place, what we should be highly suspicious of is not
those predictions in themselves, but the erroneous or 'tendentious'
interpretations which may be given of them. Thus, are we stretching
the meaning of this text when we say that we shouldn't be suspicious
of the prediction you wanted to share with us, but only of 'your'
interpretation of it?

Anyone reading a given prediction or prophecy for the first time will
feel, more or less distinctly according to the clarity of his mind at
this moment and in general, a certain agitation laying hold of the
latter as he reads on. This agitation can turn, as noted by Guénon in
the same chapter, into a feeling of general discomfort, due to the
deliberate obscurity of the text as well as to the dissolving and
destabilising influences at work in all those things; their effect
can thus be felt on the mind as well as on the psyche. Now, the
interpretations which are given of them are not always as disturbing.
For instance, a few French Nostradamians have, so to speak,
descartised the prophecies of the 'wise of Salons-de-Provence', so
that, in cases like this, the real danger comes directly from the
predictions or the prophecies in themselves, and not from the
interpretation which is given of them.

Guénon distinguished between two kinds of 'prédictions' with respect
to their use; some are used to increase the chaos of our times by
spreading everywhere turmoil and helplessness, others to see to it
that determinate events really happen; do you think, Guénon said to
illustrate by an example the latter case, that, by announcing
insistently a revolution in a given country, this won't really help
it to break out at the right time? It seems to us that the prediction
you wanted to share with us belongs to the former case, although it
is true that both uses are not mutually exclusive.

From our point of view on prophecies and predictions, it is
interesting for two main reasons: on one hand it seems to indicate an
evolution of the prophetic genre, on the other hand it is most
representative of this genre in its modern form. In the first place,
the event which is announced in it is planned for 2012; we are in
2005; only seven years would thus separate us from this event. In the
1970's, most 'prophets' (for those who haven't read and don't seem to
bother reading 'Three Aspects of the Jewish problem', let's point
out 'in passing' that, as indicated by Evola in this writing, the
figure of the 'prophet' is typically Semitic) started to foretell all
sorts of things and events for the year 2000, including the end of
the world; thus, twenty-five or thirty years separated them from the
event they announced. The more we go, the shorter the interval
between the time when a prediction is made and the time when the
event it announces is supposed to happen, it seems. The gruesome
Apocalypse of John, in which, as shown by Evola, the resentment of
the 'elected people', or, to quote Nietzsche, of the 'slaves',
towards Rome exploded - waiting for it to implode - didn't give any
date.

In the second place, the content of prophecies and predictions tends
to become less and less 'symbolic' and to assume a political and
social character as time goes by. Would this be the result of the
publication, at the beginning of the twentieth century, of
the 'Protocols', whose programme has come true in the meantime?
However, the sequel of the 'Protocols', which is currently being
implemented, hasn't been published yet. It is time people realise
that the published version of the 'Protocols' is already out of date,
and it is also time people realise that the 'Protocols' are almost
never mentioned on 'conspiracy' sites.

The key tactic of the forces of subversion is 'misdirection', whether
in space or in time.

Europe has been occupied by the forces of subversion for six decades;
what's left of European countries is managed by actors, called, in
democracies, 'presidents'; all of them, save Belarus, are
democratised to the core; in European countries such as Romania,
yearly, the number of abortions is higher than the number of births;
more than one million white females have an abortion each year
throughout Europe, and are strongly encouraged to do so by the
agencies of the individuals who, meanwhile, help deporting to Europe
hundreds of thousands immigrants each month from so-called 'third-
world' countries, within the context of the 'immigration business',
under the pretext that there is a "birth deficit" in Europe; thanks
to this cynical massive importation of Arab, Negro and
Asian 'manpower' to Europe, diseases which were eradicated in Europe
are recurring in Europe; two native European couples out of three are
overindebted in Western Europe, waiting for the same thing to happen
in Eastern European countries; the big debts of European states are
increasing exponentially, to the benefit of the Jewish bank, which
has placed its bench(wo)men at the head of
European 'administrations', within the context of the hugest hold-up
staged up in history; an industry worth of the name no longer exists
in Europe; unemployment among native Europeans is sky-rocketing. And
so on.

And, according to that prediction, "a manufactured global crisis of
bloody proportions" would break out "in the year 2012". Implying: at
the moment, there is no crisis, or, if there is one, first of all:
it's not really manufactured; secondly: it's not of bloody
proportions. As far as the 'global' part is concerned, as usual, it's
meant to unite people, without any distinction of race, without any
distinction of sex, and so on, in the same plebeian resentment
against the 'bad guys', whose main goal turns out to be, as a
coincidence, to unite the whole 'humanity' under the same banner,
under the same label, without any distinction of sex, without any
distinction of race. Once again, this shows that the relationship
between tyrants, often of plebeian origin, and the masses which are
invited to choose them democratically can only be of a purely
sentimental and feminine character, and that this 'subtle'
relationship is stronger than ever. - To top it all off, that
prediction seems to target catholic traditionalists and Muslims.

Thus, it looks like the use of most current predictions is different
from those mentioned by Guénon: it is about making people believe
that what has already happened or is happening will only happen in
the future, so that - misdirected - they cannot prevent it from
actually happening.

Thompkins&Cariou



--- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "brightimperator"
<brightimperator@y...> wrote:
> The problem of Judaism and Freemasonry has recently been addressed.
> According to several reliable 'sources', it seems Anglo-Israelite
> International Bankerdom and its interlocking 'representatives' such
> as
> Freemasonry and the Theosophical Establishment are planning a 'big
> event' in the year 2012, a manufactured global crisis of bloody
> proportions. Apparently the object is to 'suggest' to the global
> populace to infer the failure of the various nation-states of the
> world to cope with the manufactured 'problem', and Illuminati
> managerialist 'experts' will advise the various peoples of the
world
> to assent to salvific International Bankerdom's overlordship.
> Traditional Christianity and Islam are planned to succumb to a New
> Age
> planetary religion which in fact is nothing but nihilism. There is
> reason to believe that the concepts of the Nephilim and the
Annunaki
> are involved in this upcoming Illuminati-Bankster hoax near the
year
> 2012.
>
> Does anyone have any information connected to this?







Mon May 16, 2005 8:21 pm

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The problem of Judaism and Freemasonry has recently been addressed. According to several reliable 'sources', it seems Anglo-Israelite International Bankerdom...
brightimperator Offline Send Email May 15, 2005
10:29 am

I will point out that the "Nephilim and the Annunaki" lie at the base of the eclictic gnostic-conspiratological construct of Jonathan Sellers' "Antiquities of...
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May 15, 2005
12:31 pm

Hello, The problem of Judaism and Freemasonry has recently been addressed, indeed. It has even been tackled, by a man who did not seem to have any interest in...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email May 16, 2005
8:35 pm

... addressed, indeed. It has even been tackled, by a man who did not seem to have any interest in the literary genre of prophecy. When, in an interview he...
brightimperator Offline Send Email May 17, 2005
12:26 pm

Hello, This interview was actually made by one enthusiastic Italian young man, and not two, in December 1971, and not at the end of the 1960's, as stated...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email May 17, 2005
8:43 pm

I am still studying the huge and very detailed 'Antiquities of the Illuminati' site, and the underlying structure is becoming clear to me. It combines (1)...
Rowan Berkeley
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May 17, 2005
12:18 pm

p.s. - in trying to explore the "Antiqities of the Illuminati", I find it helpful to use the file directories, since there is no table of site contents on the...
Rowan Berkeley
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May 17, 2005
1:40 pm

Just one caution here - to say that Zacharia Sitchin is an agent of some sort of putative Anglo-Israelite axis is already to assume a complete set of...
Rowan Berkeley
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May 17, 2005
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Swasti! ... My GUESS - and I stress GUESS - is that the ultimate purpose of all this occult propaganda is to brand the future unified leadership of Europe as...
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Hello, When, in the introduction to 'Spiritual and Structural Presuppositions of the European Union", we speak of 'occupied Europe', it is neither a stylistic...
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I disagree with the idea expressed by Widar and of course by 'thompkins_cariou', that Europe, America, etc., are indifferently and completely occupied and...
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Hello, I agree with Widar about his observations on the American influence on Europe. I do not share the really touching cares to the "islamofobic motifs" by...
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