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  • dkhf_svendborg
    Hello, I thought this might be of interest to the people of this group. Arktos (www.arktos.com) has recently published Guillaume Faye s Archeofuturism:
    Message 1 of 11 , Oct 10, 2010
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      Hello,

      I thought this might be of interest to the people of this group.

      Arktos (www.arktos.com) has recently published Guillaume Faye's "Archeofuturism: European Visions of the Post-Catastrophic Age". In Archeofuturism, Faye prophesises a series of catastrophes between 2010 and 2020, brought about by the unsustainability of the present world order, which he asserts will offer an opportunity to rebuild the West. Please see below for further details:

      http://www.arktos.com/guillaume-faye-archeofuturism.html

      Also still available: "A Handbook of Traditional Living", "Tradition & Revolution" by Troy Southgate, Evola's "Path of Cinnabar", radical ecologist Pentti Linkola's "Can Life Prevail?", and an attractive music and clothes section. Please have a look: www.arktos.com.

      For more Arktos news please have a look at our newsletter:

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    • Evola
      Contrary to what is stated on http://www.arktos.com/guillaume-faye-archeofuturism.html/ that book is not a must-read. Far from it. More about Faye s views
      Message 2 of 11 , Oct 11, 2010
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        Contrary to what is stated on http://www.arktos.com/guillaume-faye-archeofuturism.html/ that book is not a must-read. Far from it. More about Faye's views later on. For now, all we would like to do is to prevent the people of this group from throwing 17 Euros out of the window.



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        --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "dkhf_svendborg" <gothari@...> wrote:
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        > Hello,
        >
        > I thought this might be of interest to the people of this group.
        >
        > Arktos (www.arktos.com) has recently published Guillaume Faye's "Archeofuturism: European Visions of the Post-Catastrophic Age". In Archeofuturism, Faye prophesises a series of catastrophes between 2010 and 2020, brought about by the unsustainability of the present world order, which he asserts will offer an opportunity to rebuild the West. Please see below for further details:
        >
        > http://www.arktos.com/guillaume-faye-archeofuturism.html
        >
        > Also still available: "A Handbook of Traditional Living", "Tradition & Revolution" by Troy Southgate, Evola's "Path of Cinnabar", radical ecologist Pentti Linkola's "Can Life Prevail?", and an attractive music and clothes section. Please have a look: www.arktos.com.
        >
        > For more Arktos news please have a look at our newsletter:
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        > http://www.arktos.com/newsletter/arktos2.html
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      • JC
        And why would it be throwing money out the window? I assume you are thinking about The New Jewish Question which is Faye s latests book, which has received
        Message 3 of 11 , Oct 11, 2010
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          And why would it be throwing money out the window? I assume you are thinking about 'The New Jewish Question' which is Faye's latests book, which has received much criticism from various parties. This however was his first book, and it has been pivotal in the formation and understanding of the concept 'Archeofuturism' which is now a household word in most New Right circles.
           
          J.
           
           
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          ----- Original Message -----
          From: Evola
          Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 7:44 PM
          Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: Archeofuturism

           

          Contrary to what is stated on http://www.arktos.com/guillaume-faye-archeofuturism.html/ that book is not a must-read. Far from it. More about Faye's views later on. For now, all we would like to do is to prevent the people of this group from throwing 17 Euros out of the window.

          --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "dkhf_svendborg" <gothari@...> wrote:
          >
          > Hello,
          >
          > I thought this might be of interest to the people of this group.
          >
          > Arktos (www.arktos.com) has recently published Guillaume Faye's "Archeofuturism: European Visions of the Post-Catastrophic Age". In Archeofuturism, Faye prophesises a series of catastrophes between 2010 and 2020, brought about by the unsustainability of the present world order, which he asserts will offer an opportunity to rebuild the West. Please see below for further details:
          >
          > http://www.arktos.com/guillaume-faye-archeofuturism.html
          >
          > Also still available: "A Handbook of Traditional Living", "Tradition & Revolution" by Troy Southgate, Evola's "Path of Cinnabar", radical ecologist Pentti Linkola's "Can Life Prevail?", and an attractive music and clothes section. Please have a look: www.arktos.com.
          >
          > For more Arktos news please have a look at our newsletter:
          >
          > http://www.arktos.com/newsletter/arktos2.html
          >

        • Evola
          Assuming that the readers have read the product description at http://www.arktos.com/guillaume-faye-archeofuturism.html/ let us go through the sixth main
          Message 4 of 11 , Oct 12, 2010
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            Assuming that the readers have read the "product description" at http://www.arktos.com/guillaume-faye-archeofuturism.html/ let us go through the sixth main factors which the author sees combining to bring about "the series of catastrophes" he "prophesises". The first factor is the "cancerisation of the European social fabric", owing to "the ever-increasing colonisation of settlement of the Northern hemisphere by Southern peoples", which is "fraught with highly volatile situations caused mainly by the collapse of Churches in Europe, which has become a land of conquest for Islam". These factors of social disintegration (and not of "social break-up", as this phenomenon is clumsily called by the author) will be aggravated by a demographic and economic crisis that will only deteriorate". The third factor is termed the "Southern chaos" : "By becoming industrialised, Southern countries, despite (despite?) their deceptive and fragile economic growth, have created an ever-increasing social chaos." The fourth factor is "the threat of a worldwide financial crisis", which would be far worse than the Great Depression in the 1930's "and would lead to a global recession". The rise of religious fundamentalisms, essentially Islam, is presented as the fifth factor, and "the uncontrolled increase of global pollution", in that it represents "a threat to the physical survival of humanity", as the sixth.
            The first thing to make clear is that there is nothing 'prophetic' or even new about these views, about this phenomenological diagnosis of the crisis of the European world, which, leaving aside, perhaps, the ecological issue, was already made, back in the 1970's and even sooner, by the few true representatives of the Right left at that time, and, to some extent, even acknowledged by the petit-bourgeois clique of the institutionalised French so-called far-right party, the "Front National", which, in 1998, Faye, with a typical unintentional sense of humour, called "revolutionary", and which, in a few months, could be run by a female, the daughter's current owner. Needless to say, the fact that Faye's views on the crisis of the European world are not 'new' does not bother us in any way. Far from it. All we are interested in is to find out whether or not they are consistent with a true right-wing Weltanschauung, along Evolian lines, or, better, along the lines of the spirit J. Evola was essentially a bearer of. This will be the object of our next post on 'Archeofuturism'. Meanwhile, all those who have read the book in question and have cared to read the various messages we have posted onto this list on Eurasianism and National-Bolshevism, on the collusion between the heads of so-called Muslim Fundamentalism and the CIA body, should be able to figure out - more or less - its content.




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            --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "JC" <gothari@...> wrote:
            >
            > And why would it be throwing money out the window? I assume you are thinking about 'The New Jewish Question' which is Faye's latests book, which has received much criticism from various parties. This however was his first book, and it has been pivotal in the formation and understanding of the concept 'Archeofuturism' which is now a household word in most New Right circles.
            >
            > J.
            >
            >
            > ----- Original Message -----
            > From: Evola
            > To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
            > Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 7:44 PM
            > Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: Archeofuturism
            >
            >
            >
            > Contrary to what is stated on http://www.arktos.com/guillaume-faye-archeofuturism.html/ that book is not a must-read. Far from it. More about Faye's views later on. For now, all we would like to do is to prevent the people of this group from throwing 17 Euros out of the window.
            >
            > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "dkhf_svendborg" <gothari@> wrote:
            > >
            > > Hello,
            > >
            > > I thought this might be of interest to the people of this group.
            > >
            > > Arktos (www.arktos.com) has recently published Guillaume Faye's "Archeofuturism: European Visions of the Post-Catastrophic Age". In Archeofuturism, Faye prophesises a series of catastrophes between 2010 and 2020, brought about by the unsustainability of the present world order, which he asserts will offer an opportunity to rebuild the West. Please see below for further details:
            > >
            > > http://www.arktos.com/guillaume-faye-archeofuturism.html
            > >
            > > Also still available: "A Handbook of Traditional Living", "Tradition & Revolution" by Troy Southgate, Evola's "Path of Cinnabar", radical ecologist Pentti Linkola's "Can Life Prevail?", and an attractive music and clothes section. Please have a look: www.arktos.com.
            > >
            > > For more Arktos news please have a look at our newsletter:
            > >
            > > http://www.arktos.com/newsletter/arktos2.html
            > >
            >
          • Evola
            After having outlined the views upheld in Archeofuturism on the crisis of modern Europe, let us now discuss them critically. Today, very few people in
            Message 5 of 11 , Oct 16, 2010
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              After having outlined the views upheld in 'Archeofuturism' on the crisis of modern Europe, let us now discuss them critically.

              Today, very few people in Europe, except those who are in charge of planning it, those who are busy organising it, and those who are even busier implementing it - in short, except those who, from the top to the bottom of the current economic, social and political pseudo-hierarchy, benefit from it one way or the other - are still trying to deny the increasingly visible fact that the immigration of settlement has been increasing exponentially for 40 years or so in Western European countries. Many more, be it out of compassion, out of humanity, or simply because they are bastardised, claim that, far from representing a threat for the biological survival of native European peoples, extra-European mass immigration to Europe is an "opportunity". The author is certainly not one of these. The category to which he belongs in this respect is that of those who ascertain the issues arising from mass immigration of extra-Europeans to Western Europe without going back to its actual root, when they are not simply trying to duck or to hide it, either behind second causes, or behind a veil of consequences. At best, "the collapse of Churches in Europe" in the second half of the twentieth century could be treated - as a working hypothesis - as one of the various catalysts of the "highly volatile situations" with which "the ever-increasing colonisation of settlement of the Northern hemisphere by Southern peoples" is fraught, if and only if the Orthodox church, the Catholic church, and Protestantism once proved, both in principle and in practice, to go against phenomena such as extra-European mass immigration to Europe. Admittedly, they do not oppose such phenomena ; not only they do not oppose them, but they desperately promote and even foster them, both ideologically and 'on the ground'. Ideologically speaking, as rightly noted by A. Rosenberg, both the Church and Freemasonry gather their supporters in the name of love or of humanity, in the name of internationalism : "There is no Jew or Greek, servant or free, male or female : because you are all one in Jesus Christ" (Galatians 3:28) has always been, and is more than ever, a cornerstone of the Church's dogma and praxis : never has the Church been in a better position to make its dream of "universal love", which was once dreamt by its age-old forerunners, come true as it is now, as no higher antithetical force seems to be able to counter and to check it on the political plane, and, as a result, its leaders - the pope and Co. - whose political power is still substantial, and whose influence is still strong, have a free hand. Christianity may have collapsed as a faith, just as Communism did as a form of government, the fact still remains that Christianity as a worldview is stronger than ever : Christian values such as "God's special love for aliens" have permeated the psyche of the modern native European man, to the point of possessing it and of making him forget the superior interests of his kinfolk.

              Low birth rates among white Europeans will, and, for that matter, already have an economic and financial impact on European countries. The story goes that the time is near when the contributions on wages and salaries paid jointly by employees and employers will not suffice to pay the pensions of retired people. According to the author, two dogmas of "the egalitarian ideology of(old) modernity have prevented us from remedying this situation : first, anti-natalism (….) ; then, the egalitarian refusal to switch from a general social security scheme to a pension funds system". Arguably, the anti-natalist policies pursued by the representatives of the forces of occupation in Europe since 1945 have been fully successful, since the total fertility rate is not high enough to replace this area's population. As to the Anglo-Saxon pension funds system he advocates, or rather he advocated at the time he wrote 'Archeofuturism', ten years before pension funds were hit hard by the 2008 financial crisis, it is a direct offshoot, entirely based on a ponzi scheme, of the liberalism, of the speculative capitalism, he claims to fight. The story goes, we have just recalled, that, as the number of retirees rises in proportion to the number of workers, it logically ensues that the latter's contributions to pensions will end up not being enough to cover the former's pensions ; the story is believed universally, including by the author ; the story is inaccurate. In reality, the population of Western European countries keeps rising, and so does, proportionally, the working population ; more precisely, the number of extra-Europeans keeps rising, while the number of Europeans keeps dropping, and, conversely, the extra-European working population keeps rising, while the European working population keeps dropping. So what's the matter ? The matter is that working population refers to the number of people who are willing and eligible to work, and not to the number of people actually employed ; it includes job seekers, who live on State benefits (unemployment, which is more than ever on the rise, cannot possibly be stamped out in the current state of affairs). And so do a large number of extra-European immigrants. It ensues from this, and, this time, logically, that the rise of extra-European immigration to Europe means, more or less proportionally, the rise of unemployment in Europe as well as an exponential increase of the funds destined to social security by the impostors who currently run European countries ; they are being raised and embezzled more and more aggressively, at the native European taxpayer's expense, to subsidise the program of colonisation of Europe by extra-European populations and the genocide of European natives. By the end of this century, or even before, extra-European populations in Europe will be a majority, among which a large number, even larger than now, will still be living on State benefits, pensions will no longer exist, except for those who will have been able to afford investing some of their money into a fund pension throughout their working life, provided that that fund pension, due to an umpteenth 'financial' crisis, does not vanish in thin air unexpectedly by the time they retire. The author would object, or rather prophesise, that what's left of society is bound to implode before that point of no return is reached. As far as we are concerned, we would object to his prophecies that civilisations do eventually die, after falling into a coma that can last ages. The ongoing economic and demographic crisis can make the society we live in implode, if the impostors who run it, and, more importantly, those who are behind the scenes, do not know what they are doing and they are, so to speak, in a visual flight situation : if, on the other hand, they know exactly what they doing, post-modernity could outlive itself.

              The author's further arguments in favour of the thesis of the collapse of will be examined later.


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              --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" <evola_as_he_is@...> wrote:
              >
              > Assuming that the readers have read the "product description" at http://www.arktos.com/guillaume-faye-archeofuturism.html/ let us go through the sixth main factors which the author sees combining to bring about "the series of catastrophes" he "prophesises". The first factor is the "cancerisation of the European social fabric", owing to "the ever-increasing colonisation of settlement of the Northern hemisphere by Southern peoples", which is "fraught with highly volatile situations caused mainly by the collapse of Churches in Europe, which has become a land of conquest for Islam". These factors of social disintegration (and not of "social break-up", as this phenomenon is clumsily called by the author) will be aggravated by a demographic and economic crisis that will only deteriorate". The third factor is termed the "Southern chaos" : "By becoming industrialised, Southern countries, despite (despite?) their deceptive and fragile economic growth, have created an ever-increasing social chaos." The fourth factor is "the threat of a worldwide financial crisis", which would be far worse than the Great Depression in the 1930's "and would lead to a global recession". The rise of religious fundamentalisms, essentially Islam, is presented as the fifth factor, and "the uncontrolled increase of global pollution", in that it represents "a threat to the physical survival of humanity", as the sixth.
              > The first thing to make clear is that there is nothing 'prophetic' or even new about these views, about this phenomenological diagnosis of the crisis of the European world, which, leaving aside, perhaps, the ecological issue, was already made, back in the 1970's and even sooner, by the few true representatives of the Right left at that time, and, to some extent, even acknowledged by the petit-bourgeois clique of the institutionalised French so-called far-right party, the "Front National", which, in 1998, Faye, with a typical unintentional sense of humour, called "revolutionary", and which, in a few months, could be run by a female, the daughter's current owner. Needless to say, the fact that Faye's views on the crisis of the European world are not 'new' does not bother us in any way. Far from it. All we are interested in is to find out whether or not they are consistent with a true right-wing Weltanschauung, along Evolian lines, or, better, along the lines of the spirit J. Evola was essentially a bearer of. This will be the object of our next post on 'Archeofuturism'. Meanwhile, all those who have read the book in question and have cared to read the various messages we have posted onto this list on Eurasianism and National-Bolshevism, on the collusion between the heads of so-called Muslim Fundamentalism and the CIA body, should be able to figure out - more or less - its content.
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "JC" <gothari@> wrote:
              > >
              > > And why would it be throwing money out the window? I assume you are thinking about 'The New Jewish Question' which is Faye's latests book, which has received much criticism from various parties. This however was his first book, and it has been pivotal in the formation and understanding of the concept 'Archeofuturism' which is now a household word in most New Right circles.
              > >
              > > J.
              > >
              > >
              > > ----- Original Message -----
              > > From: Evola
              > > To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
              > > Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 7:44 PM
              > > Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: Archeofuturism
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > Contrary to what is stated on http://www.arktos.com/guillaume-faye-archeofuturism.html/ that book is not a must-read. Far from it. More about Faye's views later on. For now, all we would like to do is to prevent the people of this group from throwing 17 Euros out of the window.
              > >
              > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "dkhf_svendborg" <gothari@> wrote:
              > > >
              > > > Hello,
              > > >
              > > > I thought this might be of interest to the people of this group.
              > > >
              > > > Arktos (www.arktos.com) has recently published Guillaume Faye's "Archeofuturism: European Visions of the Post-Catastrophic Age". In Archeofuturism, Faye prophesises a series of catastrophes between 2010 and 2020, brought about by the unsustainability of the present world order, which he asserts will offer an opportunity to rebuild the West. Please see below for further details:
              > > >
              > > > http://www.arktos.com/guillaume-faye-archeofuturism.html
              > > >
              > > > Also still available: "A Handbook of Traditional Living", "Tradition & Revolution" by Troy Southgate, Evola's "Path of Cinnabar", radical ecologist Pentti Linkola's "Can Life Prevail?", and an attractive music and clothes section. Please have a look: www.arktos.com.
              > > >
              > > > For more Arktos news please have a look at our newsletter:
              > > >
              > > > http://www.arktos.com/newsletter/arktos2.html
              > > >
              > >
              >
            • Evola
              The more chaos grows in the South, the higher the number of Africans and of Asians desperate to emigrate and to settle down in Europe, the more chaos grows in
              Message 6 of 11 , Oct 17, 2010
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                The more chaos grows in the South, the higher the number of Africans and of Asians desperate to emigrate and to settle down in Europe, the more chaos grows in the North.

                The application of the refugee status keeps being extended, as the pressure keeps growing : environmental migrant's, the latest added to the list, may "lack an agreed definition", those who produced it do not lack imagination, and they can be fully trusted to apply it just as imaginatively. It is often pointed out that it's only fair, or logical, that, having been colonised by us, they now colonise us, now that decolonisation has finished. All in all, we would be hoisted by our own petard. In actual facts, and bearing in mind that modern colonisation was not exactly our own petard (http://thompkins_cariou.tripod.com/id34.html), and decolonisation even less so, it can be argued that the effects of colonisation on Southern countries, especially that which was based on colonialism, were not all harmful, whereas mass resettlement of Southern populations in Europe is pure parasitism.

                The view that "The transplant of the Western socio-economic model into Southern countries turned out to be explosive", since, instead of returning to their traditional social and economic activities, they followed in the West's footsteps, is a cliché which is rather widespread in traditionalist and humanitarian circles, and in current right-wing circles, too, and which does not withstand the historical analysis. Not only it should be emphasised that "The transplant of the Western socio-economic model into Southern countries turned out to be explosive" as soon as decolonisation started, while it worked quite well during colonisation, but, more importantly, it should be wondered why those countries reportedly did not return to their so-called traditions, once they were freed from the yoke of the West by the... West. The reason they did not return to their traditions is that, during colonisation, they had never abandoned them.

                Merchant capitalism developed in China, in the Indian subcontinent, and in Africa, at the same time or, in some areas, even before it developed in Europe. Given that "Those Europeans who first came into direct contact with India in the latter part of the 18th century, when the British began their conquest of the subcontinent, found a region much of which was undergoing a deep economic and political crisis" ;

                that "With the establishment of the Mogul empire in the 16th century, there was 'the growth of commerce and the extensive activation for the market... The rapid spread of the tobacco crop within the first 50 years of the 17th century throughout the length and breadth of India is an index of how quickly the peasant was now able to follow the market'.
                There was development of the means of production, with the adoption of many of the same innovations that took root in medieval and early modern Europe. Irfan Habib has pointed out that the Indian subcontinent had developed to the same general level in making elementary machines as western Europe by the 17th century. The building of the Taj Mahal in the mid-17th century utilised the skills and techniques of craftsmen from right across Eurasia, while the Indian textile industry used looms and spinning wheels essentially the same as those used in 16th and early 17th century Europe. Overall, there was a massive growth of markets, of trade, of craft production (it is worth remembering that in the 18th century India sold much more to Europe than vice versa) and of urbanisation.
                The direction of economic and social development in India was not fundamentally different to that in Europe. This was because of considerable similarities in both the relations of exploitation and the productive forces. The direction in which Indian and west European economic development was heading was the same. There were considerable differences in speed of development. But these difference existed on just as great a scale between different regions within both Europe and India." ;

                that, "by the twelve century, Merchant classes arose that were able to influence society politically by making alliances with monarchs against the big landed aristocrats, in much the same way as in the absolute monarchies that arose at the end of the west European feudal period. Sometimes these merchants moved over from involvement in trade alone to involvement in the production of things like iron, salt and luxury goods. And by the end of the first millennium the owners of large estates began to see advantages in relying on tenant farmers or wage labourers to work them--again, a development similar to that which took place in the late European Middle Ages. The economic and political changes were matched in both periods by ideological ferment, with new sets of ideas challenging the Confucian worldview of the landed gentry class.
                By the 12th century this society had most of the productive techniques which were to be associated with the rise of capitalism in Western Europe 500 years later. There was widespread use of 'free' labour. And there was a merchant class capable of exerting influence on the state. Yet capitalism did not break through." (http://pubs.socialistreviewindex.org.uk/isj102/harman.htm) - given all this, it is, to say the least, extremely fanciful to state condescendingly that "The differences between East and West seem to have been continually on the increase, but this divergence can be said to have been one-sided in the sense that it is only the West which has changed, whereas the East, broadly speaking, has remained much the same as it was in times that we are accustomed to call ancient, but that nevertheless are comparatively recent". ('Introduction to the Study of the Hindu Doctrines', R. Guénon)

                The next message on 'Archeofurism' will go deeper into the determining contributions of ancient, traditional, China to the current financial crisis.


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                --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" <evola_as_he_is@...> wrote:
                >
                > After having outlined the views upheld in 'Archeofuturism' on the crisis of modern Europe, let us now discuss them critically.
                >
                > Today, very few people in Europe, except those who are in charge of planning it, those who are busy organising it, and those who are even busier implementing it - in short, except those who, from the top to the bottom of the current economic, social and political pseudo-hierarchy, benefit from it one way or the other - are still trying to deny the increasingly visible fact that the immigration of settlement has been increasing exponentially for 40 years or so in Western European countries. Many more, be it out of compassion, out of humanity, or simply because they are bastardised, claim that, far from representing a threat for the biological survival of native European peoples, extra-European mass immigration to Europe is an "opportunity". The author is certainly not one of these. The category to which he belongs in this respect is that of those who ascertain the issues arising from mass immigration of extra-Europeans to Western Europe without going back to its actual root, when they are not simply trying to duck or to hide it, either behind second causes, or behind a veil of consequences. At best, "the collapse of Churches in Europe" in the second half of the twentieth century could be treated - as a working hypothesis - as one of the various catalysts of the "highly volatile situations" with which "the ever-increasing colonisation of settlement of the Northern hemisphere by Southern peoples" is fraught, if and only if the Orthodox church, the Catholic church, and Protestantism once proved, both in principle and in practice, to go against phenomena such as extra-European mass immigration to Europe. Admittedly, they do not oppose such phenomena ; not only they do not oppose them, but they desperately promote and even foster them, both ideologically and 'on the ground'. Ideologically speaking, as rightly noted by A. Rosenberg, both the Church and Freemasonry gather their supporters in the name of love or of humanity, in the name of internationalism : "There is no Jew or Greek, servant or free, male or female : because you are all one in Jesus Christ" (Galatians 3:28) has always been, and is more than ever, a cornerstone of the Church's dogma and praxis : never has the Church been in a better position to make its dream of "universal love", which was once dreamt by its age-old forerunners, come true as it is now, as no higher antithetical force seems to be able to counter and to check it on the political plane, and, as a result, its leaders - the pope and Co. - whose political power is still substantial, and whose influence is still strong, have a free hand. Christianity may have collapsed as a faith, just as Communism did as a form of government, the fact still remains that Christianity as a worldview is stronger than ever : Christian values such as "God's special love for aliens" have permeated the psyche of the modern native European man, to the point of possessing it and of making him forget the superior interests of his kinfolk.
                >
                > Low birth rates among white Europeans will, and, for that matter, already have an economic and financial impact on European countries. The story goes that the time is near when the contributions on wages and salaries paid jointly by employees and employers will not suffice to pay the pensions of retired people. According to the author, two dogmas of "the egalitarian ideology of(old) modernity have prevented us from remedying this situation : first, anti-natalism (….) ; then, the egalitarian refusal to switch from a general social security scheme to a pension funds system". Arguably, the anti-natalist policies pursued by the representatives of the forces of occupation in Europe since 1945 have been fully successful, since the total fertility rate is not high enough to replace this area's population. As to the Anglo-Saxon pension funds system he advocates, or rather he advocated at the time he wrote 'Archeofuturism', ten years before pension funds were hit hard by the 2008 financial crisis, it is a direct offshoot, entirely based on a ponzi scheme, of the liberalism, of the speculative capitalism, he claims to fight. The story goes, we have just recalled, that, as the number of retirees rises in proportion to the number of workers, it logically ensues that the latter's contributions to pensions will end up not being enough to cover the former's pensions ; the story is believed universally, including by the author ; the story is inaccurate. In reality, the population of Western European countries keeps rising, and so does, proportionally, the working population ; more precisely, the number of extra-Europeans keeps rising, while the number of Europeans keeps dropping, and, conversely, the extra-European working population keeps rising, while the European working population keeps dropping. So what's the matter ? The matter is that working population refers to the number of people who are willing and eligible to work, and not to the number of people actually employed ; it includes job seekers, who live on State benefits (unemployment, which is more than ever on the rise, cannot possibly be stamped out in the current state of affairs). And so do a large number of extra-European immigrants. It ensues from this, and, this time, logically, that the rise of extra-European immigration to Europe means, more or less proportionally, the rise of unemployment in Europe as well as an exponential increase of the funds destined to social security by the impostors who currently run European countries ; they are being raised and embezzled more and more aggressively, at the native European taxpayer's expense, to subsidise the program of colonisation of Europe by extra-European populations and the genocide of European natives. By the end of this century, or even before, extra-European populations in Europe will be a majority, among which a large number, even larger than now, will still be living on State benefits, pensions will no longer exist, except for those who will have been able to afford investing some of their money into a fund pension throughout their working life, provided that that fund pension, due to an umpteenth 'financial' crisis, does not vanish in thin air unexpectedly by the time they retire. The author would object, or rather prophesise, that what's left of society is bound to implode before that point of no return is reached. As far as we are concerned, we would object to his prophecies that civilisations do eventually die, after falling into a coma that can last ages. The ongoing economic and demographic crisis can make the society we live in implode, if the impostors who run it, and, more importantly, those who are behind the scenes, do not know what they are doing and they are, so to speak, in a visual flight situation : if, on the other hand, they know exactly what they doing, post-modernity could outlive itself.
                >
                > The author's further arguments in favour of the thesis of the collapse of will be examined later.
                >
                >
                > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" <evola_as_he_is@> wrote:
                > >
                > > Assuming that the readers have read the "product description" at http://www.arktos.com/guillaume-faye-archeofuturism.html/ let us go through the sixth main factors which the author sees combining to bring about "the series of catastrophes" he "prophesises". The first factor is the "cancerisation of the European social fabric", owing to "the ever-increasing colonisation of settlement of the Northern hemisphere by Southern peoples", which is "fraught with highly volatile situations caused mainly by the collapse of Churches in Europe, which has become a land of conquest for Islam". These factors of social disintegration (and not of "social break-up", as this phenomenon is clumsily called by the author) will be aggravated by a demographic and economic crisis that will only deteriorate". The third factor is termed the "Southern chaos" : "By becoming industrialised, Southern countries, despite (despite?) their deceptive and fragile economic growth, have created an ever-increasing social chaos." The fourth factor is "the threat of a worldwide financial crisis", which would be far worse than the Great Depression in the 1930's "and would lead to a global recession". The rise of religious fundamentalisms, essentially Islam, is presented as the fifth factor, and "the uncontrolled increase of global pollution", in that it represents "a threat to the physical survival of humanity", as the sixth.
                > > The first thing to make clear is that there is nothing 'prophetic' or even new about these views, about this phenomenological diagnosis of the crisis of the European world, which, leaving aside, perhaps, the ecological issue, was already made, back in the 1970's and even sooner, by the few true representatives of the Right left at that time, and, to some extent, even acknowledged by the petit-bourgeois clique of the institutionalised French so-called far-right party, the "Front National", which, in 1998, Faye, with a typical unintentional sense of humour, called "revolutionary", and which, in a few months, could be run by a female, the daughter's current owner. Needless to say, the fact that Faye's views on the crisis of the European world are not 'new' does not bother us in any way. Far from it. All we are interested in is to find out whether or not they are consistent with a true right-wing Weltanschauung, along Evolian lines, or, better, along the lines of the spirit J. Evola was essentially a bearer of. This will be the object of our next post on 'Archeofuturism'. Meanwhile, all those who have read the book in question and have cared to read the various messages we have posted onto this list on Eurasianism and National-Bolshevism, on the collusion between the heads of so-called Muslim Fundamentalism and the CIA body, should be able to figure out - more or less - its content.
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "JC" <gothari@> wrote:
                > > >
                > > > And why would it be throwing money out the window? I assume you are thinking about 'The New Jewish Question' which is Faye's latests book, which has received much criticism from various parties. This however was his first book, and it has been pivotal in the formation and understanding of the concept 'Archeofuturism' which is now a household word in most New Right circles.
                > > >
                > > > J.
                > > >
                > > >
                > > > ----- Original Message -----
                > > > From: Evola
                > > > To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                > > > Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 7:44 PM
                > > > Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: Archeofuturism
                > > >
                > > >
                > > >
                > > > Contrary to what is stated on http://www.arktos.com/guillaume-faye-archeofuturism.html/ that book is not a must-read. Far from it. More about Faye's views later on. For now, all we would like to do is to prevent the people of this group from throwing 17 Euros out of the window.
                > > >
                > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "dkhf_svendborg" <gothari@> wrote:
                > > > >
                > > > > Hello,
                > > > >
                > > > > I thought this might be of interest to the people of this group.
                > > > >
                > > > > Arktos (www.arktos.com) has recently published Guillaume Faye's "Archeofuturism: European Visions of the Post-Catastrophic Age". In Archeofuturism, Faye prophesises a series of catastrophes between 2010 and 2020, brought about by the unsustainability of the present world order, which he asserts will offer an opportunity to rebuild the West. Please see below for further details:
                > > > >
                > > > > http://www.arktos.com/guillaume-faye-archeofuturism.html
                > > > >
                > > > > Also still available: "A Handbook of Traditional Living", "Tradition & Revolution" by Troy Southgate, Evola's "Path of Cinnabar", radical ecologist Pentti Linkola's "Can Life Prevail?", and an attractive music and clothes section. Please have a look: www.arktos.com.
                > > > >
                > > > > For more Arktos news please have a look at our newsletter:
                > > > >
                > > > > http://www.arktos.com/newsletter/arktos2.html
                > > > >
                > > >
                > >
                >
              • G. van der Heide
                Oh! If only that gifted group of musicians, hailing from Genova, who d lately proclaimed to be archeofuturist , were to read this. 2010/10/17 Evola
                Message 7 of 11 , Oct 17, 2010
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                  Oh! If only that gifted group of musicians, hailing from Genova, who'd lately proclaimed to be 'archeofuturist', were to read this.

                  2010/10/17 Evola <evola_as_he_is@...>
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                  The more chaos grows in the South, the higher the number of Africans and of Asians desperate to emigrate and to settle down in Europe, the more chaos grows in the North.

                  The application of the refugee status keeps being extended, as the pressure keeps growing : environmental migrant's, the latest added to the list, may "lack an agreed definition", those who produced it do not lack imagination, and they can be fully trusted to apply it just as imaginatively. It is often pointed out that it's only fair, or logical, that, having been colonised by us, they now colonise us, now that decolonisation has finished. All in all, we would be hoisted by our own petard. In actual facts, and bearing in mind that modern colonisation was not exactly our own petard (http://thompkins_cariou.tripod.com/id34.html), and decolonisation even less so, it can be argued that the effects of colonisation on Southern countries, especially that which was based on colonialism, were not all harmful, whereas mass resettlement of Southern populations in Europe is pure parasitism.

                  The view that "The transplant of the Western socio-economic model into Southern countries turned out to be explosive", since, instead of returning to their traditional social and economic activities, they followed in the West's footsteps, is a cliché which is rather widespread in traditionalist and humanitarian circles, and in current right-wing circles, too, and which does not withstand the historical analysis. Not only it should be emphasised that "The transplant of the Western socio-economic model into Southern countries turned out to be explosive" as soon as decolonisation started, while it worked quite well during colonisation, but, more importantly, it should be wondered why those countries reportedly did not return to their so-called traditions, once they were freed from the yoke of the West by the... West. The reason they did not return to their traditions is that, during colonisation, they had never abandoned them.

                  Merchant capitalism developed in China, in the Indian subcontinent, and in Africa, at the same time or, in some areas, even before it developed in Europe. Given that "Those Europeans who first came into direct contact with India in the latter part of the 18th century, when the British began their conquest of the subcontinent, found a region much of which was undergoing a deep economic and political crisis" ;

                  that "With the establishment of the Mogul empire in the 16th century, there was 'the growth of commerce and the extensive activation for the market... The rapid spread of the tobacco crop within the first 50 years of the 17th century throughout the length and breadth of India is an index of how quickly the peasant was now able to follow the market'.
                  There was development of the means of production, with the adoption of many of the same innovations that took root in medieval and early modern Europe. Irfan Habib has pointed out that the Indian subcontinent had developed to the same general level in making elementary machines as western Europe by the 17th century. The building of the Taj Mahal in the mid-17th century utilised the skills and techniques of craftsmen from right across Eurasia, while the Indian textile industry used looms and spinning wheels essentially the same as those used in 16th and early 17th century Europe. Overall, there was a massive growth of markets, of trade, of craft production (it is worth remembering that in the 18th century India sold much more to Europe than vice versa) and of urbanisation.
                  The direction of economic and social development in India was not fundamentally different to that in Europe. This was because of considerable similarities in both the relations of exploitation and the productive forces. The direction in which Indian and west European economic development was heading was the same. There were considerable differences in speed of development. But these difference existed on just as great a scale between different regions within both Europe and India." ;

                  that, "by the twelve century, Merchant classes arose that were able to influence society politically by making alliances with monarchs against the big landed aristocrats, in much the same way as in the absolute monarchies that arose at the end of the west European feudal period. Sometimes these merchants moved over from involvement in trade alone to involvement in the production of things like iron, salt and luxury goods. And by the end of the first millennium the owners of large estates began to see advantages in relying on tenant farmers or wage labourers to work them--again, a development similar to that which took place in the late European Middle Ages. The economic and political changes were matched in both periods by ideological ferment, with new sets of ideas challenging the Confucian worldview of the landed gentry class.
                  By the 12th century this society had most of the productive techniques which were to be associated with the rise of capitalism in Western Europe 500 years later. There was widespread use of 'free' labour. And there was a merchant class capable of exerting influence on the state. Yet capitalism did not break through." (http://pubs.socialistreviewindex.org.uk/isj102/harman.htm) - given all this, it is, to say the least, extremely fanciful to state condescendingly that "The differences between East and West seem to have been continually on the increase, but this divergence can be said to have been one-sided in the sense that it is only the West which has changed, whereas the East, broadly speaking, has remained much the same as it was in times that we are accustomed to call ancient, but that nevertheless are comparatively recent". ('Introduction to the Study of the Hindu Doctrines', R. Guénon)

                  The next message on 'Archeofurism' will go deeper into the determining contributions of ancient, traditional, China to the current financial crisis.



                  --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" <evola_as_he_is@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > After having outlined the views upheld in 'Archeofuturism' on the crisis of modern Europe, let us now discuss them critically.
                  >
                  > Today, very few people in Europe, except those who are in charge of planning it, those who are busy organising it, and those who are even busier implementing it - in short, except those who, from the top to the bottom of the current economic, social and political pseudo-hierarchy, benefit from it one way or the other - are still trying to deny the increasingly visible fact that the immigration of settlement has been increasing exponentially for 40 years or so in Western European countries. Many more, be it out of compassion, out of humanity, or simply because they are bastardised, claim that, far from representing a threat for the biological survival of native European peoples, extra-European mass immigration to Europe is an "opportunity". The author is certainly not one of these. The category to which he belongs in this respect is that of those who ascertain the issues arising from mass immigration of extra-Europeans to Western Europe without going back to its actual root, when they are not simply trying to duck or to hide it, either behind second causes, or behind a veil of consequences. At best, "the collapse of Churches in Europe" in the second half of the twentieth century could be treated - as a working hypothesis - as one of the various catalysts of the "highly volatile situations" with which "the ever-increasing colonisation of settlement of the Northern hemisphere by Southern peoples" is fraught, if and only if the Orthodox church, the Catholic church, and Protestantism once proved, both in principle and in practice, to go against phenomena such as extra-European mass immigration to Europe. Admittedly, they do not oppose such phenomena ; not only they do not oppose them, but they desperately promote and even foster them, both ideologically and 'on the ground'. Ideologically speaking, as rightly noted by A. Rosenberg, both the Church and Freemasonry gather their supporters in the name of love or of humanity, in the name of internationalism : "There is no Jew or Greek, servant or free, male or female : because you are all one in Jesus Christ" (Galatians 3:28) has always been, and is more than ever, a cornerstone of the Church's dogma and praxis : never has the Church been in a better position to make its dream of "universal love", which was once dreamt by its age-old forerunners, come true as it is now, as no higher antithetical force seems to be able to counter and to check it on the political plane, and, as a result, its leaders - the pope and Co. - whose political power is still substantial, and whose influence is still strong, have a free hand. Christianity may have collapsed as a faith, just as Communism did as a form of government, the fact still remains that Christianity as a worldview is stronger than ever : Christian values such as "God's special love for aliens" have permeated the psyche of the modern native European man, to the point of possessing it and of making him forget the superior interests of his kinfolk.
                  >
                  > Low birth rates among white Europeans will, and, for that matter, already have an economic and financial impact on European countries. The story goes that the time is near when the contributions on wages and salaries paid jointly by employees and employers will not suffice to pay the pensions of retired people. According to the author, two dogmas of "the egalitarian ideology of(old) modernity have prevented us from remedying this situation : first, anti-natalism (….) ; then, the egalitarian refusal to switch from a general social security scheme to a pension funds system". Arguably, the anti-natalist policies pursued by the representatives of the forces of occupation in Europe since 1945 have been fully successful, since the total fertility rate is not high enough to replace this area's population. As to the Anglo-Saxon pension funds system he advocates, or rather he advocated at the time he wrote 'Archeofuturism', ten years before pension funds were hit hard by the 2008 financial crisis, it is a direct offshoot, entirely based on a ponzi scheme, of the liberalism, of the speculative capitalism, he claims to fight. The story goes, we have just recalled, that, as the number of retirees rises in proportion to the number of workers, it logically ensues that the latter's contributions to pensions will end up not being enough to cover the former's pensions ; the story is believed universally, including by the author ; the story is inaccurate. In reality, the population of Western European countries keeps rising, and so does, proportionally, the working population ; more precisely, the number of extra-Europeans keeps rising, while the number of Europeans keeps dropping, and, conversely, the extra-European working population keeps rising, while the European working population keeps dropping. So what's the matter ? The matter is that working population refers to the number of people who are willing and eligible to work, and not to the number of people actually employed ; it includes job seekers, who live on State benefits (unemployment, which is more than ever on the rise, cannot possibly be stamped out in the current state of affairs). And so do a large number of extra-European immigrants. It ensues from this, and, this time, logically, that the rise of extra-European immigration to Europe means, more or less proportionally, the rise of unemployment in Europe as well as an exponential increase of the funds destined to social security by the impostors who currently run European countries ; they are being raised and embezzled more and more aggressively, at the native European taxpayer's expense, to subsidise the program of colonisation of Europe by extra-European populations and the genocide of European natives. By the end of this century, or even before, extra-European populations in Europe will be a majority, among which a large number, even larger than now, will still be living on State benefits, pensions will no longer exist, except for those who will have been able to afford investing some of their money into a fund pension throughout their working life, provided that that fund pension, due to an umpteenth 'financial' crisis, does not vanish in thin air unexpectedly by the time they retire. The author would object, or rather prophesise, that what's left of society is bound to implode before that point of no return is reached. As far as we are concerned, we would object to his prophecies that civilisations do eventually die, after falling into a coma that can last ages. The ongoing economic and demographic crisis can make the society we live in implode, if the impostors who run it, and, more importantly, those who are behind the scenes, do not know what they are doing and they are, so to speak, in a visual flight situation : if, on the other hand, they know exactly what they doing, post-modernity could outlive itself.
                  >
                  > The author's further arguments in favour of the thesis of the collapse of will be examined later.
                  >
                  >
                  > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" <evola_as_he_is@> wrote:
                  > >
                  > > Assuming that the readers have read the "product description" at http://www.arktos.com/guillaume-faye-archeofuturism.html/ let us go through the sixth main factors which the author sees combining to bring about "the series of catastrophes" he "prophesises". The first factor is the "cancerisation of the European social fabric", owing to "the ever-increasing colonisation of settlement of the Northern hemisphere by Southern peoples", which is "fraught with highly volatile situations caused mainly by the collapse of Churches in Europe, which has become a land of conquest for Islam". These factors of social disintegration (and not of "social break-up", as this phenomenon is clumsily called by the author) will be aggravated by a demographic and economic crisis that will only deteriorate". The third factor is termed the "Southern chaos" : "By becoming industrialised, Southern countries, despite (despite?) their deceptive and fragile economic growth, have created an ever-increasing social chaos." The fourth factor is "the threat of a worldwide financial crisis", which would be far worse than the Great Depression in the 1930's "and would lead to a global recession". The rise of religious fundamentalisms, essentially Islam, is presented as the fifth factor, and "the uncontrolled increase of global pollution", in that it represents "a threat to the physical survival of humanity", as the sixth.
                  > > The first thing to make clear is that there is nothing 'prophetic' or even new about these views, about this phenomenological diagnosis of the crisis of the European world, which, leaving aside, perhaps, the ecological issue, was already made, back in the 1970's and even sooner, by the few true representatives of the Right left at that time, and, to some extent, even acknowledged by the petit-bourgeois clique of the institutionalised French so-called far-right party, the "Front National", which, in 1998, Faye, with a typical unintentional sense of humour, called "revolutionary", and which, in a few months, could be run by a female, the daughter's current owner. Needless to say, the fact that Faye's views on the crisis of the European world are not 'new' does not bother us in any way. Far from it. All we are interested in is to find out whether or not they are consistent with a true right-wing Weltanschauung, along Evolian lines, or, better, along the lines of the spirit J. Evola was essentially a bearer of. This will be the object of our next post on 'Archeofuturism'. Meanwhile, all those who have read the book in question and have cared to read the various messages we have posted onto this list on Eurasianism and National-Bolshevism, on the collusion between the heads of so-called Muslim Fundamentalism and the CIA body, should be able to figure out - more or less - its content.
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "JC" <gothari@> wrote:
                  > > >
                  > > > And why would it be throwing money out the window? I assume you are thinking about 'The New Jewish Question' which is Faye's latests book, which has received much criticism from various parties. This however was his first book, and it has been pivotal in the formation and understanding of the concept 'Archeofuturism' which is now a household word in most New Right circles.
                  > > >
                  > > > J.
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > > ----- Original Message -----
                  > > > From: Evola
                  > > > To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                  > > > Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 7:44 PM
                  > > > Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: Archeofuturism
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > > Contrary to what is stated on http://www.arktos.com/guillaume-faye-archeofuturism.html/ that book is not a must-read. Far from it. More about Faye's views later on. For now, all we would like to do is to prevent the people of this group from throwing 17 Euros out of the window.
                  > > >
                  > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "dkhf_svendborg" <gothari@> wrote:
                  > > > >
                  > > > > Hello,
                  > > > >
                  > > > > I thought this might be of interest to the people of this group.
                  > > > >
                  > > > > Arktos (www.arktos.com) has recently published Guillaume Faye's "Archeofuturism: European Visions of the Post-Catastrophic Age". In Archeofuturism, Faye prophesises a series of catastrophes between 2010 and 2020, brought about by the unsustainability of the present world order, which he asserts will offer an opportunity to rebuild the West. Please see below for further details:
                  > > > >
                  > > > > http://www.arktos.com/guillaume-faye-archeofuturism.html
                  > > > >
                  > > > > Also still available: "A Handbook of Traditional Living", "Tradition & Revolution" by Troy Southgate, Evola's "Path of Cinnabar", radical ecologist Pentti Linkola's "Can Life Prevail?", and an attractive music and clothes section. Please have a look: www.arktos.com.
                  > > > >
                  > > > > For more Arktos news please have a look at our newsletter:
                  > > > >
                  > > > > http://www.arktos.com/newsletter/arktos2.html
                  > > > >
                  > > >
                  > >
                  >


                • Evola
                  In essence, the economist M. Allais rightly noted, the present creation of money, out of nothing by the banking system, is similar - I do not hesitate to say
                  Message 8 of 11 , Oct 20, 2010
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                    "In essence, the economist M. Allais rightly noted, the present creation of money, out of nothing by the banking system, is similar - I do not hesitate to say it in order to make people clearly realize what is at stake here - to the creation of money by counterfeiters, so rightly condemned by law." Indeed, so-called fiat money, any money which is neither legally convertible to any other thing, nor fixed in value in terms of any objective standard, has no intrinsic value.

                    Fiat money was created, not by the Jews, but by the Chinese, eleven centuries ago. "Of this money, Marco Polo described, the Khan (Kublai Khan) has such a quantity made that with it he could buy all the treasure in the world. With this currency he orders all payments to be made throughout every province and kingdom and region of his empire. And no one dares refuse it on pain of losing his life. And I assure you that all the people and populations who are subject to his rule are perfectly willing to accept these papers in payment, since wherever they go they pay in the same currency, whether for goods or for pearls or precious stones or gold of silver. With these pieces of paper they can buy anything and pay for anything. And I can tell you that the papers that reckon as ten bezants do not weigh one." The official banknote of the Yuan dynasty (1297-1368) was called the Chao, which the Mongolian Il-Khanids dynasty unsuccessfully tried to impose in Persia in the XIII th century. This, as well as the fact that the Templars, before being superseded by foreign merchants as bankers and moneylenders in some European countries by the late XIII th century, had developed, by bills of exchange, a highly developed system of banking and of credit, might explain why R. Guénon never actually venture to write that history of money that, judging from a footnote in a chapter of 'The Reign of the Quantity' in which Easterners are once again unilaterally praised for their contemplative virtues, he seems to have entertained the idea of producing.

                    Experts tell us that "historically every major fiat money have self-destructed in what is popularly called "hyperinflation" (that is, extreme decreases in purchasing-power) caused by either unlimited increases in the supply of that fiat money by the issuer or accelerating loss of public confidence in the continued value of the money or the economic or political fortunes of its issuer, or both". Yet, eleven centuries after it was invented in China, paper-money is still present in that country as well as in any other country. What history also shows is that, once a currency has crashed, it is always possible to introduce another currency. Of course, there is also the public debt issue, which is assumed to sign Western countries' death warrant by the layman, who does not realise that public debt, in a world subject to the 'demony of economy', can prove to be, by incredibly sophisticated computer and cyber sleight of hand, a financial and economic strength for some countries, for complicated and multifarious technical reasons we are not going to expound here. As an example, "Argentina is an example of a democracy that suffered during the 20th century from various economic crises. A severe depression, accompanied by growing public and private debt, culminated in a run on the banks in 2001 and a flight of capital to other countries. The Interim President Adolfo Rodriguez declared a default on the government's debt in December 2001 and resigned. His successor announced an end to the 1-to-1 peg to the US dollar in early 2002 (probably was forced to). Nominal GDP went down 18%. However, over the next five years, GDP grew an average of 9% a year. (…). In this case, capitalism did not roll over and die. It flourished (http://www.johnecpa.com/deathofcapitalism.html/). In any case, let us bear in mind that K. Marx, whose analysis of modern capitalism is still valid to a large extent, once wrote that capitalism would pave the way for socialism. Indeed, various signs, such as the State benefit system and its systematisation all over European countries, show that, as noted and explained by J. Evola in 'Revolt Against The Modern World', Marxism and speculative capitalism complement each other wonderfully.

                    There was a financial crisis in 2008, and it mainly affected Western countries. There was a monetary crisis lately, and it only affected Europe. Both were self-made, just like the Great Depression. How could the so-called current economic system possibly implode when the crises which it causes are self-made ?

                    This is one of the various central questions it apparently never occurred to the author to ask himself. His considerations on Islam as a political factor of social, ethnic, and spiritual disintegration, which are shared by most of the so-called leaders of current European nationalist parties, are just as superficial and deceptive.



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                    --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" <evola_as_he_is@...> wrote:
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                    > The more chaos grows in the South, the higher the number of Africans and of Asians desperate to emigrate and to settle down in Europe, the more chaos grows in the North.
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                    > The application of the refugee status keeps being extended, as the pressure keeps growing : environmental migrant's, the latest added to the list, may "lack an agreed definition", those who produced it do not lack imagination, and they can be fully trusted to apply it just as imaginatively. It is often pointed out that it's only fair, or logical, that, having been colonised by us, they now colonise us, now that decolonisation has finished. All in all, we would be hoisted by our own petard. In actual facts, and bearing in mind that modern colonisation was not exactly our own petard (http://thompkins_cariou.tripod.com/id34.html), and decolonisation even less so, it can be argued that the effects of colonisation on Southern countries, especially that which was based on colonialism, were not all harmful, whereas mass resettlement of Southern populations in Europe is pure parasitism.
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                    > The view that "The transplant of the Western socio-economic model into Southern countries turned out to be explosive", since, instead of returning to their traditional social and economic activities, they followed in the West's footsteps, is a cliché which is rather widespread in traditionalist and humanitarian circles, and in current right-wing circles, too, and which does not withstand the historical analysis. Not only it should be emphasised that "The transplant of the Western socio-economic model into Southern countries turned out to be explosive" as soon as decolonisation started, while it worked quite well during colonisation, but, more importantly, it should be wondered why those countries reportedly did not return to their so-called traditions, once they were freed from the yoke of the West by the... West. The reason they did not return to their traditions is that, during colonisation, they had never abandoned them.
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                    > Merchant capitalism developed in China, in the Indian subcontinent, and in Africa, at the same time or, in some areas, even before it developed in Europe. Given that "Those Europeans who first came into direct contact with India in the latter part of the 18th century, when the British began their conquest of the subcontinent, found a region much of which was undergoing a deep economic and political crisis" ;
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                    > that "With the establishment of the Mogul empire in the 16th century, there was 'the growth of commerce and the extensive activation for the market... The rapid spread of the tobacco crop within the first 50 years of the 17th century throughout the length and breadth of India is an index of how quickly the peasant was now able to follow the market'.
                    > There was development of the means of production, with the adoption of many of the same innovations that took root in medieval and early modern Europe. Irfan Habib has pointed out that the Indian subcontinent had developed to the same general level in making elementary machines as western Europe by the 17th century. The building of the Taj Mahal in the mid-17th century utilised the skills and techniques of craftsmen from right across Eurasia, while the Indian textile industry used looms and spinning wheels essentially the same as those used in 16th and early 17th century Europe. Overall, there was a massive growth of markets, of trade, of craft production (it is worth remembering that in the 18th century India sold much more to Europe than vice versa) and of urbanisation.
                    > The direction of economic and social development in India was not fundamentally different to that in Europe. This was because of considerable similarities in both the relations of exploitation and the productive forces. The direction in which Indian and west European economic development was heading was the same. There were considerable differences in speed of development. But these difference existed on just as great a scale between different regions within both Europe and India." ;
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                    > that, "by the twelve century, Merchant classes arose that were able to influence society politically by making alliances with monarchs against the big landed aristocrats, in much the same way as in the absolute monarchies that arose at the end of the west European feudal period. Sometimes these merchants moved over from involvement in trade alone to involvement in the production of things like iron, salt and luxury goods. And by the end of the first millennium the owners of large estates began to see advantages in relying on tenant farmers or wage labourers to work them--again, a development similar to that which took place in the late European Middle Ages. The economic and political changes were matched in both periods by ideological ferment, with new sets of ideas challenging the Confucian worldview of the landed gentry class.
                    > By the 12th century this society had most of the productive techniques which were to be associated with the rise of capitalism in Western Europe 500 years later. There was widespread use of 'free' labour. And there was a merchant class capable of exerting influence on the state. Yet capitalism did not break through." (http://pubs.socialistreviewindex.org.uk/isj102/harman.htm) - given all this, it is, to say the least, extremely fanciful to state condescendingly that "The differences between East and West seem to have been continually on the increase, but this divergence can be said to have been one-sided in the sense that it is only the West which has changed, whereas the East, broadly speaking, has remained much the same as it was in times that we are accustomed to call ancient, but that nevertheless are comparatively recent". ('Introduction to the Study of the Hindu Doctrines', R. Guénon)
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                    > The next message on 'Archeofurism' will go deeper into the determining contributions of ancient, traditional, China to the current financial crisis.
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                    > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" <evola_as_he_is@> wrote:
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                    > > After having outlined the views upheld in 'Archeofuturism' on the crisis of modern Europe, let us now discuss them critically.
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                    > > Today, very few people in Europe, except those who are in charge of planning it, those who are busy organising it, and those who are even busier implementing it - in short, except those who, from the top to the bottom of the current economic, social and political pseudo-hierarchy, benefit from it one way or the other - are still trying to deny the increasingly visible fact that the immigration of settlement has been increasing exponentially for 40 years or so in Western European countries. Many more, be it out of compassion, out of humanity, or simply because they are bastardised, claim that, far from representing a threat for the biological survival of native European peoples, extra-European mass immigration to Europe is an "opportunity". The author is certainly not one of these. The category to which he belongs in this respect is that of those who ascertain the issues arising from mass immigration of extra-Europeans to Western Europe without going back to its actual root, when they are not simply trying to duck or to hide it, either behind second causes, or behind a veil of consequences. At best, "the collapse of Churches in Europe" in the second half of the twentieth century could be treated - as a working hypothesis - as one of the various catalysts of the "highly volatile situations" with which "the ever-increasing colonisation of settlement of the Northern hemisphere by Southern peoples" is fraught, if and only if the Orthodox church, the Catholic church, and Protestantism once proved, both in principle and in practice, to go against phenomena such as extra-European mass immigration to Europe. Admittedly, they do not oppose such phenomena ; not only they do not oppose them, but they desperately promote and even foster them, both ideologically and 'on the ground'. Ideologically speaking, as rightly noted by A. Rosenberg, both the Church and Freemasonry gather their supporters in the name of love or of humanity, in the name of internationalism : "There is no Jew or Greek, servant or free, male or female : because you are all one in Jesus Christ" (Galatians 3:28) has always been, and is more than ever, a cornerstone of the Church's dogma and praxis : never has the Church been in a better position to make its dream of "universal love", which was once dreamt by its age-old forerunners, come true as it is now, as no higher antithetical force seems to be able to counter and to check it on the political plane, and, as a result, its leaders - the pope and Co. - whose political power is still substantial, and whose influence is still strong, have a free hand. Christianity may have collapsed as a faith, just as Communism did as a form of government, the fact still remains that Christianity as a worldview is stronger than ever : Christian values such as "God's special love for aliens" have permeated the psyche of the modern native European man, to the point of possessing it and of making him forget the superior interests of his kinfolk.
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                    > > Low birth rates among white Europeans will, and, for that matter, already have an economic and financial impact on European countries. The story goes that the time is near when the contributions on wages and salaries paid jointly by employees and employers will not suffice to pay the pensions of retired people. According to the author, two dogmas of "the egalitarian ideology of(old) modernity have prevented us from remedying this situation : first, anti-natalism (….) ; then, the egalitarian refusal to switch from a general social security scheme to a pension funds system". Arguably, the anti-natalist policies pursued by the representatives of the forces of occupation in Europe since 1945 have been fully successful, since the total fertility rate is not high enough to replace this area's population. As to the Anglo-Saxon pension funds system he advocates, or rather he advocated at the time he wrote 'Archeofuturism', ten years before pension funds were hit hard by the 2008 financial crisis, it is a direct offshoot, entirely based on a ponzi scheme, of the liberalism, of the speculative capitalism, he claims to fight. The story goes, we have just recalled, that, as the number of retirees rises in proportion to the number of workers, it logically ensues that the latter's contributions to pensions will end up not being enough to cover the former's pensions ; the story is believed universally, including by the author ; the story is inaccurate. In reality, the population of Western European countries keeps rising, and so does, proportionally, the working population ; more precisely, the number of extra-Europeans keeps rising, while the number of Europeans keeps dropping, and, conversely, the extra-European working population keeps rising, while the European working population keeps dropping. So what's the matter ? The matter is that working population refers to the number of people who are willing and eligible to work, and not to the number of people actually employed ; it includes job seekers, who live on State benefits (unemployment, which is more than ever on the rise, cannot possibly be stamped out in the current state of affairs). And so do a large number of extra-European immigrants. It ensues from this, and, this time, logically, that the rise of extra-European immigration to Europe means, more or less proportionally, the rise of unemployment in Europe as well as an exponential increase of the funds destined to social security by the impostors who currently run European countries ; they are being raised and embezzled more and more aggressively, at the native European taxpayer's expense, to subsidise the program of colonisation of Europe by extra-European populations and the genocide of European natives. By the end of this century, or even before, extra-European populations in Europe will be a majority, among which a large number, even larger than now, will still be living on State benefits, pensions will no longer exist, except for those who will have been able to afford investing some of their money into a fund pension throughout their working life, provided that that fund pension, due to an umpteenth 'financial' crisis, does not vanish in thin air unexpectedly by the time they retire. The author would object, or rather prophesise, that what's left of society is bound to implode before that point of no return is reached. As far as we are concerned, we would object to his prophecies that civilisations do eventually die, after falling into a coma that can last ages. The ongoing economic and demographic crisis can make the society we live in implode, if the impostors who run it, and, more importantly, those who are behind the scenes, do not know what they are doing and they are, so to speak, in a visual flight situation : if, on the other hand, they know exactly what they doing, post-modernity could outlive itself.
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                    > > The author's further arguments in favour of the thesis of the collapse of will be examined later.
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                    > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" <evola_as_he_is@> wrote:
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                    > > > Assuming that the readers have read the "product description" at http://www.arktos.com/guillaume-faye-archeofuturism.html/ let us go through the sixth main factors which the author sees combining to bring about "the series of catastrophes" he "prophesises". The first factor is the "cancerisation of the European social fabric", owing to "the ever-increasing colonisation of settlement of the Northern hemisphere by Southern peoples", which is "fraught with highly volatile situations caused mainly by the collapse of Churches in Europe, which has become a land of conquest for Islam". These factors of social disintegration (and not of "social break-up", as this phenomenon is clumsily called by the author) will be aggravated by a demographic and economic crisis that will only deteriorate". The third factor is termed the "Southern chaos" : "By becoming industrialised, Southern countries, despite (despite?) their deceptive and fragile economic growth, have created an ever-increasing social chaos." The fourth factor is "the threat of a worldwide financial crisis", which would be far worse than the Great Depression in the 1930's "and would lead to a global recession". The rise of religious fundamentalisms, essentially Islam, is presented as the fifth factor, and "the uncontrolled increase of global pollution", in that it represents "a threat to the physical survival of humanity", as the sixth.
                    > > > The first thing to make clear is that there is nothing 'prophetic' or even new about these views, about this phenomenological diagnosis of the crisis of the European world, which, leaving aside, perhaps, the ecological issue, was already made, back in the 1970's and even sooner, by the few true representatives of the Right left at that time, and, to some extent, even acknowledged by the petit-bourgeois clique of the institutionalised French so-called far-right party, the "Front National", which, in 1998, Faye, with a typical unintentional sense of humour, called "revolutionary", and which, in a few months, could be run by a female, the daughter's current owner. Needless to say, the fact that Faye's views on the crisis of the European world are not 'new' does not bother us in any way. Far from it. All we are interested in is to find out whether or not they are consistent with a true right-wing Weltanschauung, along Evolian lines, or, better, along the lines of the spirit J. Evola was essentially a bearer of. This will be the object of our next post on 'Archeofuturism'. Meanwhile, all those who have read the book in question and have cared to read the various messages we have posted onto this list on Eurasianism and National-Bolshevism, on the collusion between the heads of so-called Muslim Fundamentalism and the CIA body, should be able to figure out - more or less - its content.
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                    > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "JC" <gothari@> wrote:
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                    > > > > And why would it be throwing money out the window? I assume you are thinking about 'The New Jewish Question' which is Faye's latests book, which has received much criticism from various parties. This however was his first book, and it has been pivotal in the formation and understanding of the concept 'Archeofuturism' which is now a household word in most New Right circles.
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                    > > > > J.
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                    > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                    > > > > From: Evola
                    > > > > To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                    > > > > Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 7:44 PM
                    > > > > Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: Archeofuturism
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                    > > > > Contrary to what is stated on http://www.arktos.com/guillaume-faye-archeofuturism.html/ that book is not a must-read. Far from it. More about Faye's views later on. For now, all we would like to do is to prevent the people of this group from throwing 17 Euros out of the window.
                    > > > >
                    > > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "dkhf_svendborg" <gothari@> wrote:
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                    > > > > > Hello,
                    > > > > >
                    > > > > > I thought this might be of interest to the people of this group.
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                    > > > > > Arktos (www.arktos.com) has recently published Guillaume Faye's "Archeofuturism: European Visions of the Post-Catastrophic Age". In Archeofuturism, Faye prophesises a series of catastrophes between 2010 and 2020, brought about by the unsustainability of the present world order, which he asserts will offer an opportunity to rebuild the West. Please see below for further details:
                    > > > > >
                    > > > > > http://www.arktos.com/guillaume-faye-archeofuturism.html
                    > > > > >
                    > > > > > Also still available: "A Handbook of Traditional Living", "Tradition & Revolution" by Troy Southgate, Evola's "Path of Cinnabar", radical ecologist Pentti Linkola's "Can Life Prevail?", and an attractive music and clothes section. Please have a look: www.arktos.com.
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                    > > > > > For more Arktos news please have a look at our newsletter:
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                  • Evola
                    So, according to the author, religious fundamentalism, especially Muslim fundamentalism, is the fifth factor likely to cause the implosion of the current
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                      So, according to the author, religious fundamentalism, especially Muslim fundamentalism, is the fifth factor likely to cause the implosion of the current political, ecomomical, and social system ; from his standpoint, which will be specified in due time, it could be called "the fifth plague of Egypt". Such a view is, at best, naive, insofar as Muslim fundamentalism was, if not created ex nihilo, revived by one of the major players playing the pawns on the 'Grand chessboard'. As early as in the late 1990's, as the author's book was not published yet, Brzezinski toured Europe, providing further evidence in support of many conspirationists' views by bragging about how the United States funded and trained Mujahideens in Afghanistan in the late 1970's (see, for instance, http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/BRZ110A.html)

                      To illustrate further the superficiality of the author, le us go deeper into the actual roots of Muslim Fundamentalism : "Conventional wisdom suggests that Afghan fundamentalists were sponsored by Americans during the 1980's, while the Soviet Union battled them. Conventional wisdom is wrong. The January 2001 cargo transport is a perfect illustration of what was happening in Afghanistan for decades - Russians knowingly funded fundamentalists, while Americans were clueless, trusting everyone, knowing nothing. According to multiple reports, after the Soviet invasion, it took the CIA several years - years! - to get a few spies to Afghanistan who actually spoke any of the local languages. Instead of relying on its own, Washington received information from the British, Israelis, Pakistanis, Saudis and others who had personal interests and often were not inclined to tell the truth.
                      American incompetence and negligence gave root of conspiracies, many of which are believed even by reasonable people, that Americans purposely funded and trained Islamists. The actions of the CIA have been twisted out of shape beyond recognition, with every wild claim imaginable being made against American intelligence services. In reality, U.S. spies were left without support, often without as much as fake identification. The 1970's Frank Church Commission imposed rules upon agents that made it next to impossible to effectively collect human intelligence. As CIA Agent Robert Baer wrote in "See No Evil," Presidents, both Republicans and Democrats, saw CIA not as a means of collecting information, but rather as a collection of "Jacks-of-all-trade" who were sent on missions to distribute food, promote civil rights, and alike. While these may be laudable goals, intelligence agents were not paid for such missions. They are spies, not social workers. And so, while others were spying in order to both protect themselves and harm their enemies, America was sleeping and waiting for 9-11.
                      Soviet, meanwhile, used their vast KGB empire to influence the world. Even after the fall of the Soviet Union, Russia used FSB, the post-communist equivalent of the KGB, to promote its interests. For several generations, Moscow saw fundamentalists as a potential tool in its battle against the West. Kremlin realized that it was not strong enough to take over the West just yet, and saw the Islamists' goal of World Disorder as useful to prevent Western World Order.
                      Moscow sponsored and probably even created the socialist Tudeh (Masses) party in Iran, which supported the Iranian Revolution by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini. The party leader even wrote a book claiming that Ali, the first Imam of Shi'ism, was the real founder of socialism.
                      A decade later, as the Soviet Union was falling apart, KGB sponsored the Islamic Renaissance Party in the Muslim regions of the former Soviet Union. The IRP has been a source of fundamentalist inspiration for Islamic people who knew little about their religion (due to the Communist policy of rigged atheism), and thus were easily brainwashed.
                      Likewise in Afghanistan, many of the so-called Islamist fundamentalists were sponsored by the Soviet Union. At times, USSR even hired Islamists to attack their own to provoke anti-Afghan feelings in the Soviet Union, thus allowing the Red Army to stay in Afghanistan with support of the Soviet people. Former KGB officer Vasily Mitrokhin described "Soviet-trained Afghan guerrilla units posed as CIA-supported, anti-Soviet mujahidin rebels to create confusion and flush out genuine rebels." (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1398099/posts)

                      The CIA was to be more successful in Bosnia in the 1990's and, later, in Kosovo. Indeed, it is now well-documented that the Kosovo Liberation Army, which has strong links to so-called "Al-Qaeda", was funded by the CIA and German intelligence (http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/BEH502A.html)

                      "The "Bosnian pattern" described in the 1997 Congressional RPC report was replicated in Kosovo. With the complicity of NATO and the US State Department. Mujahideen mercenaries from the Middle East and Central Asia were recruited to fight in the ranks of the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) in 1998-99, largely supporting NATO's war effort.
                      Confirmed by British military sources, the task of arming and training of the KLA had been entrusted in 1998 to the US Defence Intelligence Agency (DIA) and Britain's Secret Intelligence Services MI6, together with "former and serving members of 22 SAS [Britain's 22nd Special Air Services Regiment], as well as three British and American private security companies." http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO110A.html

                      To go beyond the manic unilateralism of conspirationists, it could be objected that the aliance between top-ranking Mujahideens and those who appear to be, ideologically speaking, their objective enemies may only be strategical, just as was the case with the Great Mufti and the Third Reich during WW2, and that there is no reason why Muslim fundamentalism could not try to instrumentalise those who try to instrumentalise it. "The British used Islam to legitimize their puppet rulers in Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Palestine after taking over the Middle East in World War I. Because of this Islam was seen by much of the Arab populace as just another part of the corrupt colonial establishment. That is why the legitimate anti-colonial movements, such as those of Nasser, Mossadegh and Bhutto, were primarily secular in nature. When these nationalist movements began to succeed outside of the British sphere of influence the British turned to their Islamic allies to subvert these independent regimes. The Muslim Brotherhood stands out as the most important counter-revolutionary movement of this period in the Middle East, and one of the British-based Globalists' most important strategic assets today." (http://www.redmoonrising.com/Ikhwan/MB.htm) But couldn't it be that the British-based Globalists have been toyed all the way, without them being aware of it in any way, by those they think they manipulate ? Many Arab States, whether of the Islamic brand or not, may have been managed for quite some time by self-styled 'Westernised' leaders, a country like Irak may be 73th State of America, the fact remains that two potentially Muslim States now exist in Europe, and that an increasingly high number of native Europeans occupying key positions in the civil service, in the scientific world and in the entertainment arena, especially in Great Britain, in Germany, and in Italy, convert to Islam.

                      From a European standpoint, there is ultimately no sense in wondering who, from the Globalists or the Muslims, will have the last word, since they are both 'cultural distorters' and, whoever of them wins or looses a battle on the European ground, Europe gets closer and closer to loosing the war. No matter the amount of evidence, some Europeans keep relying, or, at least, keep claiming they rely on one or the other of those occupying forces to liberate Europe. The first of those two shaddy circles of influence, or, shall we say, of those amorphous groupings, since various trends of consistent neo-Trotskists and a few self-styled Neo-Nazis without principles have ended up in it, is anti-Zionist, anti-imperialist, Americanophobic ; some of the most notorious ones are listed by the Jewish political scientist A. del Valle in 'The Reds, The Browns and the Greens' (http://www.alexandredelvalle.com/publications.php?id_art=131/), whose 'Islamisme et Etats-Unis : Une Alliance contre l'Europe', in which he "attempts to prove that the U.S. government is deliberately using Islamism to destroy Europe", should not mislead the readers into thinking that he does not have links with the second amorphous grouping, that which uphold pro-Zionist, pro-liberal, neocons, Americanophile views. This may explain his statement that "The majority of the extreme right is clearly turned towards the Arab-Muslim world, conforming itself to the desire expressed by Hitler himself in his testament, in the name of the principle: "rather Islamic than Judeo-Mason"", when it is now established that 'The Private and Political Testaments of Hitler', as any other manuscript attributed to A. Hitler that contains pro-islamic statements, is a fake. Cui bono ?

                      And who's who ?

                      "The German secret service, the BND, paid for a trip by the late Austrian far-right leader Joerg Haider to Saddam Hussein in Iraq in 2002, the weekly magazine Profil reported Sunday.
                      The magazine, in its latest edition, said the BND was interested in Haider's contacts in Iraq and used the services of an unidentified Austrian businessman to organise the trip and pay for the flight.
                      Profil said a member of Haider's far-right Freedom Party or FPOe, Ewald Stadler, and his press spokesman also took part in the trip in May 2002.
                      According to the magazine, the BND spend "several hundreds of thousands" of euros (dollars) in observing Haider.
                      Contacted by Profil, the secret service declined to comment on the information.
                      The Austrian businessman also refused to say anything to the magazine.
                      Haider was killed in a drunk-driving accident in October 2008 aged 58.
                      In August, Profil and other Austrian media reported that Haider allegedly deposited 45 million euros (63 million dollars) over the years in secret accounts in Liechtenstein.
                      According to the reports, the money came from Libyan leader Moamer Kadhafi and Iraq dictator Saddam Hussein."

                      Who's banking on who ?






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                      --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" <evola_as_he_is@...> wrote:
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                      > "In essence, the economist M. Allais rightly noted, the present creation of money, out of nothing by the banking system, is similar - I do not hesitate to say it in order to make people clearly realize what is at stake here - to the creation of money by counterfeiters, so rightly condemned by law." Indeed, so-called fiat money, any money which is neither legally convertible to any other thing, nor fixed in value in terms of any objective standard, has no intrinsic value.
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                      > Fiat money was created, not by the Jews, but by the Chinese, eleven centuries ago. "Of this money, Marco Polo described, the Khan (Kublai Khan) has such a quantity made that with it he could buy all the treasure in the world. With this currency he orders all payments to be made throughout every province and kingdom and region of his empire. And no one dares refuse it on pain of losing his life. And I assure you that all the people and populations who are subject to his rule are perfectly willing to accept these papers in payment, since wherever they go they pay in the same currency, whether for goods or for pearls or precious stones or gold of silver. With these pieces of paper they can buy anything and pay for anything. And I can tell you that the papers that reckon as ten bezants do not weigh one." The official banknote of the Yuan dynasty (1297-1368) was called the Chao, which the Mongolian Il-Khanids dynasty unsuccessfully tried to impose in Persia in the XIII th century. This, as well as the fact that the Templars, before being superseded by foreign merchants as bankers and moneylenders in some European countries by the late XIII th century, had developed, by bills of exchange, a highly developed system of banking and of credit, might explain why R. Guénon never actually venture to write that history of money that, judging from a footnote in a chapter of 'The Reign of the Quantity' in which Easterners are once again unilaterally praised for their contemplative virtues, he seems to have entertained the idea of producing.
                      >
                      > Experts tell us that "historically every major fiat money have self-destructed in what is popularly called "hyperinflation" (that is, extreme decreases in purchasing-power) caused by either unlimited increases in the supply of that fiat money by the issuer or accelerating loss of public confidence in the continued value of the money or the economic or political fortunes of its issuer, or both". Yet, eleven centuries after it was invented in China, paper-money is still present in that country as well as in any other country. What history also shows is that, once a currency has crashed, it is always possible to introduce another currency. Of course, there is also the public debt issue, which is assumed to sign Western countries' death warrant by the layman, who does not realise that public debt, in a world subject to the 'demony of economy', can prove to be, by incredibly sophisticated computer and cyber sleight of hand, a financial and economic strength for some countries, for complicated and multifarious technical reasons we are not going to expound here. As an example, "Argentina is an example of a democracy that suffered during the 20th century from various economic crises. A severe depression, accompanied by growing public and private debt, culminated in a run on the banks in 2001 and a flight of capital to other countries. The Interim President Adolfo Rodriguez declared a default on the government's debt in December 2001 and resigned. His successor announced an end to the 1-to-1 peg to the US dollar in early 2002 (probably was forced to). Nominal GDP went down 18%. However, over the next five years, GDP grew an average of 9% a year. (…). In this case, capitalism did not roll over and die. It flourished (http://www.johnecpa.com/deathofcapitalism.html/). In any case, let us bear in mind that K. Marx, whose analysis of modern capitalism is still valid to a large extent, once wrote that capitalism would pave the way for socialism. Indeed, various signs, such as the State benefit system and its systematisation all over European countries, show that, as noted and explained by J. Evola in 'Revolt Against The Modern World', Marxism and speculative capitalism complement each other wonderfully.
                      >
                      > There was a financial crisis in 2008, and it mainly affected Western countries. There was a monetary crisis lately, and it only affected Europe. Both were self-made, just like the Great Depression. How could the so-called current economic system possibly implode when the crises which it causes are self-made ?
                      >
                      > This is one of the various central questions it apparently never occurred to the author to ask himself. His considerations on Islam as a political factor of social, ethnic, and spiritual disintegration, which are shared by most of the so-called leaders of current European nationalist parties, are just as superficial and deceptive.
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" <evola_as_he_is@> wrote:
                      > >
                      > > The more chaos grows in the South, the higher the number of Africans and of Asians desperate to emigrate and to settle down in Europe, the more chaos grows in the North.
                      > >
                      > > The application of the refugee status keeps being extended, as the pressure keeps growing : environmental migrant's, the latest added to the list, may "lack an agreed definition", those who produced it do not lack imagination, and they can be fully trusted to apply it just as imaginatively. It is often pointed out that it's only fair, or logical, that, having been colonised by us, they now colonise us, now that decolonisation has finished. All in all, we would be hoisted by our own petard. In actual facts, and bearing in mind that modern colonisation was not exactly our own petard (http://thompkins_cariou.tripod.com/id34.html), and decolonisation even less so, it can be argued that the effects of colonisation on Southern countries, especially that which was based on colonialism, were not all harmful, whereas mass resettlement of Southern populations in Europe is pure parasitism.
                      > >
                      > > The view that "The transplant of the Western socio-economic model into Southern countries turned out to be explosive", since, instead of returning to their traditional social and economic activities, they followed in the West's footsteps, is a cliché which is rather widespread in traditionalist and humanitarian circles, and in current right-wing circles, too, and which does not withstand the historical analysis. Not only it should be emphasised that "The transplant of the Western socio-economic model into Southern countries turned out to be explosive" as soon as decolonisation started, while it worked quite well during colonisation, but, more importantly, it should be wondered why those countries reportedly did not return to their so-called traditions, once they were freed from the yoke of the West by the... West. The reason they did not return to their traditions is that, during colonisation, they had never abandoned them.
                      > >
                      > > Merchant capitalism developed in China, in the Indian subcontinent, and in Africa, at the same time or, in some areas, even before it developed in Europe. Given that "Those Europeans who first came into direct contact with India in the latter part of the 18th century, when the British began their conquest of the subcontinent, found a region much of which was undergoing a deep economic and political crisis" ;
                      > >
                      > > that "With the establishment of the Mogul empire in the 16th century, there was 'the growth of commerce and the extensive activation for the market... The rapid spread of the tobacco crop within the first 50 years of the 17th century throughout the length and breadth of India is an index of how quickly the peasant was now able to follow the market'.
                      > > There was development of the means of production, with the adoption of many of the same innovations that took root in medieval and early modern Europe. Irfan Habib has pointed out that the Indian subcontinent had developed to the same general level in making elementary machines as western Europe by the 17th century. The building of the Taj Mahal in the mid-17th century utilised the skills and techniques of craftsmen from right across Eurasia, while the Indian textile industry used looms and spinning wheels essentially the same as those used in 16th and early 17th century Europe. Overall, there was a massive growth of markets, of trade, of craft production (it is worth remembering that in the 18th century India sold much more to Europe than vice versa) and of urbanisation.
                      > > The direction of economic and social development in India was not fundamentally different to that in Europe. This was because of considerable similarities in both the relations of exploitation and the productive forces. The direction in which Indian and west European economic development was heading was the same. There were considerable differences in speed of development. But these difference existed on just as great a scale between different regions within both Europe and India." ;
                      > >
                      > > that, "by the twelve century, Merchant classes arose that were able to influence society politically by making alliances with monarchs against the big landed aristocrats, in much the same way as in the absolute monarchies that arose at the end of the west European feudal period. Sometimes these merchants moved over from involvement in trade alone to involvement in the production of things like iron, salt and luxury goods. And by the end of the first millennium the owners of large estates began to see advantages in relying on tenant farmers or wage labourers to work them--again, a development similar to that which took place in the late European Middle Ages. The economic and political changes were matched in both periods by ideological ferment, with new sets of ideas challenging the Confucian worldview of the landed gentry class.
                      > > By the 12th century this society had most of the productive techniques which were to be associated with the rise of capitalism in Western Europe 500 years later. There was widespread use of 'free' labour. And there was a merchant class capable of exerting influence on the state. Yet capitalism did not break through." (http://pubs.socialistreviewindex.org.uk/isj102/harman.htm) - given all this, it is, to say the least, extremely fanciful to state condescendingly that "The differences between East and West seem to have been continually on the increase, but this divergence can be said to have been one-sided in the sense that it is only the West which has changed, whereas the East, broadly speaking, has remained much the same as it was in times that we are accustomed to call ancient, but that nevertheless are comparatively recent". ('Introduction to the Study of the Hindu Doctrines', R. Guénon)
                      > >
                      > > The next message on 'Archeofurism' will go deeper into the determining contributions of ancient, traditional, China to the current financial crisis.
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" <evola_as_he_is@> wrote:
                      > > >
                      > > > After having outlined the views upheld in 'Archeofuturism' on the crisis of modern Europe, let us now discuss them critically.
                      > > >
                      > > > Today, very few people in Europe, except those who are in charge of planning it, those who are busy organising it, and those who are even busier implementing it - in short, except those who, from the top to the bottom of the current economic, social and political pseudo-hierarchy, benefit from it one way or the other - are still trying to deny the increasingly visible fact that the immigration of settlement has been increasing exponentially for 40 years or so in Western European countries. Many more, be it out of compassion, out of humanity, or simply because they are bastardised, claim that, far from representing a threat for the biological survival of native European peoples, extra-European mass immigration to Europe is an "opportunity". The author is certainly not one of these. The category to which he belongs in this respect is that of those who ascertain the issues arising from mass immigration of extra-Europeans to Western Europe without going back to its actual root, when they are not simply trying to duck or to hide it, either behind second causes, or behind a veil of consequences. At best, "the collapse of Churches in Europe" in the second half of the twentieth century could be treated - as a working hypothesis - as one of the various catalysts of the "highly volatile situations" with which "the ever-increasing colonisation of settlement of the Northern hemisphere by Southern peoples" is fraught, if and only if the Orthodox church, the Catholic church, and Protestantism once proved, both in principle and in practice, to go against phenomena such as extra-European mass immigration to Europe. Admittedly, they do not oppose such phenomena ; not only they do not oppose them, but they desperately promote and even foster them, both ideologically and 'on the ground'. Ideologically speaking, as rightly noted by A. Rosenberg, both the Church and Freemasonry gather their supporters in the name of love or of humanity, in the name of internationalism : "There is no Jew or Greek, servant or free, male or female : because you are all one in Jesus Christ" (Galatians 3:28) has always been, and is more than ever, a cornerstone of the Church's dogma and praxis : never has the Church been in a better position to make its dream of "universal love", which was once dreamt by its age-old forerunners, come true as it is now, as no higher antithetical force seems to be able to counter and to check it on the political plane, and, as a result, its leaders - the pope and Co. - whose political power is still substantial, and whose influence is still strong, have a free hand. Christianity may have collapsed as a faith, just as Communism did as a form of government, the fact still remains that Christianity as a worldview is stronger than ever : Christian values such as "God's special love for aliens" have permeated the psyche of the modern native European man, to the point of possessing it and of making him forget the superior interests of his kinfolk.
                      > > >
                      > > > Low birth rates among white Europeans will, and, for that matter, already have an economic and financial impact on European countries. The story goes that the time is near when the contributions on wages and salaries paid jointly by employees and employers will not suffice to pay the pensions of retired people. According to the author, two dogmas of "the egalitarian ideology of(old) modernity have prevented us from remedying this situation : first, anti-natalism (….) ; then, the egalitarian refusal to switch from a general social security scheme to a pension funds system". Arguably, the anti-natalist policies pursued by the representatives of the forces of occupation in Europe since 1945 have been fully successful, since the total fertility rate is not high enough to replace this area's population. As to the Anglo-Saxon pension funds system he advocates, or rather he advocated at the time he wrote 'Archeofuturism', ten years before pension funds were hit hard by the 2008 financial crisis, it is a direct offshoot, entirely based on a ponzi scheme, of the liberalism, of the speculative capitalism, he claims to fight. The story goes, we have just recalled, that, as the number of retirees rises in proportion to the number of workers, it logically ensues that the latter's contributions to pensions will end up not being enough to cover the former's pensions ; the story is believed universally, including by the author ; the story is inaccurate. In reality, the population of Western European countries keeps rising, and so does, proportionally, the working population ; more precisely, the number of extra-Europeans keeps rising, while the number of Europeans keeps dropping, and, conversely, the extra-European working population keeps rising, while the European working population keeps dropping. So what's the matter ? The matter is that working population refers to the number of people who are willing and eligible to work, and not to the number of people actually employed ; it includes job seekers, who live on State benefits (unemployment, which is more than ever on the rise, cannot possibly be stamped out in the current state of affairs). And so do a large number of extra-European immigrants. It ensues from this, and, this time, logically, that the rise of extra-European immigration to Europe means, more or less proportionally, the rise of unemployment in Europe as well as an exponential increase of the funds destined to social security by the impostors who currently run European countries ; they are being raised and embezzled more and more aggressively, at the native European taxpayer's expense, to subsidise the program of colonisation of Europe by extra-European populations and the genocide of European natives. By the end of this century, or even before, extra-European populations in Europe will be a majority, among which a large number, even larger than now, will still be living on State benefits, pensions will no longer exist, except for those who will have been able to afford investing some of their money into a fund pension throughout their working life, provided that that fund pension, due to an umpteenth 'financial' crisis, does not vanish in thin air unexpectedly by the time they retire. The author would object, or rather prophesise, that what's left of society is bound to implode before that point of no return is reached. As far as we are concerned, we would object to his prophecies that civilisations do eventually die, after falling into a coma that can last ages. The ongoing economic and demographic crisis can make the society we live in implode, if the impostors who run it, and, more importantly, those who are behind the scenes, do not know what they are doing and they are, so to speak, in a visual flight situation : if, on the other hand, they know exactly what they doing, post-modernity could outlive itself.
                      > > >
                      > > > The author's further arguments in favour of the thesis of the collapse of will be examined later.
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" <evola_as_he_is@> wrote:
                      > > > >
                      > > > > Assuming that the readers have read the "product description" at http://www.arktos.com/guillaume-faye-archeofuturism.html/ let us go through the sixth main factors which the author sees combining to bring about "the series of catastrophes" he "prophesises". The first factor is the "cancerisation of the European social fabric", owing to "the ever-increasing colonisation of settlement of the Northern hemisphere by Southern peoples", which is "fraught with highly volatile situations caused mainly by the collapse of Churches in Europe, which has become a land of conquest for Islam". These factors of social disintegration (and not of "social break-up", as this phenomenon is clumsily called by the author) will be aggravated by a demographic and economic crisis that will only deteriorate". The third factor is termed the "Southern chaos" : "By becoming industrialised, Southern countries, despite (despite?) their deceptive and fragile economic growth, have created an ever-increasing social chaos." The fourth factor is "the threat of a worldwide financial crisis", which would be far worse than the Great Depression in the 1930's "and would lead to a global recession". The rise of religious fundamentalisms, essentially Islam, is presented as the fifth factor, and "the uncontrolled increase of global pollution", in that it represents "a threat to the physical survival of humanity", as the sixth.
                      > > > > The first thing to make clear is that there is nothing 'prophetic' or even new about these views, about this phenomenological diagnosis of the crisis of the European world, which, leaving aside, perhaps, the ecological issue, was already made, back in the 1970's and even sooner, by the few true representatives of the Right left at that time, and, to some extent, even acknowledged by the petit-bourgeois clique of the institutionalised French so-called far-right party, the "Front National", which, in 1998, Faye, with a typical unintentional sense of humour, called "revolutionary", and which, in a few months, could be run by a female, the daughter's current owner. Needless to say, the fact that Faye's views on the crisis of the European world are not 'new' does not bother us in any way. Far from it. All we are interested in is to find out whether or not they are consistent with a true right-wing Weltanschauung, along Evolian lines, or, better, along the lines of the spirit J. Evola was essentially a bearer of. This will be the object of our next post on 'Archeofuturism'. Meanwhile, all those who have read the book in question and have cared to read the various messages we have posted onto this list on Eurasianism and National-Bolshevism, on the collusion between the heads of so-called Muslim Fundamentalism and the CIA body, should be able to figure out - more or less - its content.
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "JC" <gothari@> wrote:
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > And why would it be throwing money out the window? I assume you are thinking about 'The New Jewish Question' which is Faye's latests book, which has received much criticism from various parties. This however was his first book, and it has been pivotal in the formation and understanding of the concept 'Archeofuturism' which is now a household word in most New Right circles.
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > J.
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                      > > > > > From: Evola
                      > > > > > To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                      > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 7:44 PM
                      > > > > > Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: Archeofuturism
                      > > > > >
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                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > Contrary to what is stated on http://www.arktos.com/guillaume-faye-archeofuturism.html/ that book is not a must-read. Far from it. More about Faye's views later on. For now, all we would like to do is to prevent the people of this group from throwing 17 Euros out of the window.
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "dkhf_svendborg" <gothari@> wrote:
                      > > > > > >
                      > > > > > > Hello,
                      > > > > > >
                      > > > > > > I thought this might be of interest to the people of this group.
                      > > > > > >
                      > > > > > > Arktos (www.arktos.com) has recently published Guillaume Faye's "Archeofuturism: European Visions of the Post-Catastrophic Age". In Archeofuturism, Faye prophesises a series of catastrophes between 2010 and 2020, brought about by the unsustainability of the present world order, which he asserts will offer an opportunity to rebuild the West. Please see below for further details:
                      > > > > > >
                      > > > > > > http://www.arktos.com/guillaume-faye-archeofuturism.html
                      > > > > > >
                      > > > > > > Also still available: "A Handbook of Traditional Living", "Tradition & Revolution" by Troy Southgate, Evola's "Path of Cinnabar", radical ecologist Pentti Linkola's "Can Life Prevail?", and an attractive music and clothes section. Please have a look: www.arktos.com.
                      > > > > > >
                      > > > > > > For more Arktos news please have a look at our newsletter:
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                      > > > > > > http://www.arktos.com/newsletter/arktos2.html
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                    • tlefranc10
                      “This, as well as the fact that the Templars, before being superseded by foreign merchants as bankers and moneylenders in some European countries by the late
                      Message 10 of 11 , Dec 21, 2013
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                        “This, as well as the fact that the Templars, before being superseded by foreign merchants as bankers and moneylenders in some European countries by the late XIII th century, had developed, by bills of exchange, a highly developed system of banking and of credit, might explain why R. Guénon…”

                         

                        In connection to all the banking and money lending activities going on at that time, the Templars may have been only one head of the hydra. The power the abbots of Cluny and Monte Cassino had should not be underestimated. The Jews also gained a lot of power during that time. "When the Crusaders came straggling back, they found the Jews and the monks in possession - the Jews absorbing gold and making slaves, the monks grasping at land and building palaces", Edwin Johnson wrote in a passage which I republished at http://critiquehistorique.blogspot.fr/2013/12/the-monkish-fight-for-european-dominion.html

                         

                        All this certainly caused a strong resentment among those who were subdued by either of these two groups. And that may be considered as a subconscious factor explaining partly later events, where an outburst of violence against the aforementioned groups took place. 

                      • evola_as_he_is
                        Perhaps the correct spelling should be Monte Casino , or Monte K-asino ,especially since it should be remembered that early Christians were accused of ass
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                          Perhaps the correct spelling should be "Monte Casino", or "Monte K-asino",especially since it should be remembered that early Christians were accused of ass ("asino")-worship.

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