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  • Evola
    Aug 19
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    Apart from the first paragraph, most of these quotations deal with what has been hinted at here and there in this forum (for any technical inquiry, please email us, but we are afraid that there is not much that can be done to make things easier ; there hasn't been any significant technical improvement to http://groups.yahoo.com/ since it was launched in the late 1990's ; if ever some were made in a near future, let us wish that they would not be made along the same lines as those that have been brought to their mailbox, which, like google's, is becoming less and less navigable with each update)

    So most of them deal with issues that have been raised in this group, cross-checking, extending and deepening the material which has already been provided. Most of the authors' books whose research and findings are used in `Raciology' have not been translated into English yet. The prevailing lewdness in the ancient civilisations of the Near East is well-known to the students of those civilisations ; the customs of `Equatorial races' have been studied by anthropologists in the `West', but, to our knowledge, those studies deal generally with social attitudes rather than with sexual behaviour ; now, traditional sexual practices peculiar to tribes belonging to the Mongoloid race remain completely unknown to the `West', while they have been studied by Russian, Korean, Japanese scholars, whose work, still to our knowledge, has not been translated. Speaking of translation, from what we know, the English translation of `Raciology' is satisfactory, and, in any case, the translator is certainly not responsible for the short-cuts the author tends to take. For example, there is hardly any logical connection between the first and the second sentence in the following passage : "Among Mongoloid tribes of north eastern Eurasia, the customs of guest marriage and "renting" of wives is highly widespread. A podium with an essential, vertical pole, designated for whirling around in a dance by unclothed dancing girls, has today become the attribute of any strip-tease club; but for some reason, today they are solidly associated with the European system of values. In point of fact, this traces back to elements of the Asiatic temple prostitution of Ancient Babylonia." So the reader is left with filling the gaps : a common feature of Canaanite worship and of the syncretistic Israelite cult on "high places" and shrines was the erection of Asherah's (wooden) poles, the Northwest Semitic goddess, who was precisely worshipped by those who were involved in prostitution, and whose image was precisely carved like a pole ; these "high places" and shrines were prostitution places (https://www.ministrymagazine.org/archive/2003/08/entertainment-as-worship-old-testament-trends.html), and the implication, here, is that the vertical pole around which unclothed female dancers whirl in night-clubs is a modern equivalent of that pole.

    Particularly interesting is the concept, "according to which, for the perception and spread of each type of ideology, a definite type of nervous system is necessary," and so are the findings of P. Mantegazza.

    Reservations have to be made about the statement that there is no hint at sexual perversion in Russian folk tales (for example, `sadomasochistic games do feature in some Russian folk-tales", in which the woman is presented as dominant ; Gender and Sexuality in Russian Civilisation, p. 272) , after all, as Avdeyev knows, Russia is located in those "geographical ranges, where the great races bordered one another, where the chaos of mixed blood unavoidably ended up being celebrated everywhere."

    Finally, the first paragraph requires some comments. The "many monsters of manifold forms" which Lucretius refers to in On The Nature of things were produced, according to him, in ages past, and did no longer exist when he wrote about them. How remote, he does not say. It is worth noting that rock and wall paintings of the Ice age, when the continent that was to be called European in relatively recent times was still populated with non Indo-European peoples, "shows men as flat and black tadpoles, with a double tail instead of hands and feet, faceless. When a human face appears, it is almost always a bestial, demonic, gruesome, mask, so monstrous that it would have made Vinci or Goya envious." (Atlantide-Europe : le mystère de l'Occident, p. 144) It is precisely in the Ice age that, according to some scholars, a peculiar sexual practice, to be later rather widespread in the Near East, and rather popular in Oceania and in the Far-East, appeared, or, at least, was first depicted on wall paintings (see Bestiality and Zoophilia : Sexual Relations with Animals ; most chapters are available at google.books, when using IE).


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    > "The great Roman philosopher, Titus Lucretius Carus (99-55 B.C.), wrote: "In her stresses, the Earth produced a multitude of monsters, of strange and monstrous forms: they were androgenous, dual-sex, and belonging to neither one sex; some were legless, devoid of a mouth, faceless, and blind beings; there were also monsters that were so bent, that they were not in a condition to walk about at will." Yes, this is an allegory, but modern mass orgies of homosexuals, transvestites, and other perverts, "belonging to neither one sex" are today a fact of our public life; and the birth of infants with tail appendages, animal ears, excessively hairy faces, and similar biological atavisms, from time to time, in various parts of the world, are a biological fact."
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    > Avdeyev, V. (2007). Raciology : the science of the hereditary traits of peoples, p. 291.
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    > "Russian psychologist V.P. Osipov correlated the findings of reflexology with vast cultural historical material, and came to the conclusion that mass homosexuality as a social-biological phenomenon had its origin exclusively in the East. Ancient Europe had no notions about it. Another Russian scientist, ethologist O.V. Mil'chevskiy, certified that the custom of castration originated in the harems of Ethiopia and Libya, as a result of the hatred and jealousy of husbands toward male guards, then spread further into Egypt, Judea, and Assyria. All exotic forms of lewdness, in Mil'chevskiy's opinion, also had their primary, initial origin among the southern equatorial races; for a long time, they were completely unknown among the White cultures of the peoples of Europe. Without exception, the lofty, almost God-like attitude toward virgin girls exists in the mythology of all peoples, which belong to an Indo-European cultural circle, which was formed on the biological foundation of the Nordic race. At the same time, among the Negroes of Equatorial Africa, to this day a custom exists, whereby the high priest of the tribe uses a stone knife to publicly cut away the virginity of girls who have barely achieved sexual puberty. Virginity is an impermissible burden for tribes, which by tradition practice orgiastic cults. Among Mongoloid tribes of north eastern Eurasia, the customs of guest marriage and "renting" of wives is highly widespread. A podium with an essential, vertical pole, designated for whirling around in a dance by unclothed dancing girls, has today become the attribute of any strip-tease club; but for some reason, today they are solidly associated with the European system of values. In point of fact, this traces back to elements of the Asiatic temple prostitution of Ancient Babylonia; German historian Hugo Winkler was the first in European science in modern times to direct attention to this."
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    > "[...] in his fundamental essay, A Course on the Common Teachings about Spiritual Illnesses, Russian psychologist V.P. Osipov, showed that based on the findings of comparative psychiatry and psychoreflexology, mass homosexuality and pederastry came from the East, primarily from the geographical ranges, where the great races bordered one another, where the chaos of mixed blood unavoidably ended up being celebrated everywhere, with the most unnatural forms of behavior, including sexual behaviors. The mixing of races leads to the mixing of values systems, with an unavoidable, subsequent loss of values.
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    > Osipov emphasized: "According to the testimony of knowledgeable people, pederastry gained so much acceptance in the East that the boy-dancers (bachi) of the Middle-Asian khanates took part in processions, and Saadi and other poets praise their beauty in their verses. The bachi learned dances, songs, and wore semi-feminine clothes; they were coquettish, and knew how to arouse their clients; the wealthy considered it good form to keep bachi, even if they did not use them. Some used bachi for a lack of women, and left the unnatural way at the first opportunity; others remained pederasts forever. The bachi themselves, the majority of whom belonged to the passive type, usually left their craft at the onset of puberty, sometimes marrying and living normal lives. Some could not free themselves of the Uranian penchant, and in turn ran to the bachi for help. In large part, the bachi developed as the result of a particularly forcible sexual upbringing in a definite direction. They are professionals at sexual perversion, who are subject to and who are cultivated and bred for true homosexual lust, which is characteristic of their degenerative constitution."
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    > The distinguished Italian anthropologist and psychologist, Paolo Mantegazza, declared that the genesis of homosexualism arose as a result of an anatomical physiological anomaly, expressed in the extension of the peripheral nerves of the sexual organs onto the rectum, which is included in this erogenous area. The abundance of magazines which commercialize "Martian" mechanical technology for the satisfaction of anomalous, exotic sexual inclinations, makes this this hypothesis completely reliable. What is characteristic here is that the quantity of these magazines in the major cities of Europe and America, increases in parallel with the general democratization of society and the struggle for human rights; this fits in completely with the contours of our concept, according to which, for the perception and spread of each type of ideology, a definite type of nervous system is necessary. Movements for humanism, feminism, and rights for sexual and other minorities, are in need of [a constituency] with a special type of nervous system, which functions through a corresponding massage of the anomalous peripheral nerves in the sexual organs. Democratic values, according to the level and character of agitation, more resemble the prescription of a proctologist.
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    > The work of the Russian psychologist and physiologist, Grigoriy Nikolayevich Brenev is forgotten today, however, his work, Prehistoric Colored Civilization, is highly relevant in the context of the modern cultural situation. Through the prism of sexual reflex and language, this Russian scientist (formerly one of the favorite students of Pavlov), essentially exposed the correlation of the basic instinct to continue the species, with one of the main instruments of culture. This represents a revolution in science. He wrote: "The [sexual] reflex is a signaling device of bioprocesses in the past. The modern Russian reflex of the "cradles" of the White man is not broken, but overgrown, absorbing into it the world ideas of the colored contest of all its colored enemies. The Russian language therefore, is the timeless sentry of all civilizations, of all ages, and all the nervous energy of Mankind. The Russian language has seen everything and decisively, reflexively, endured everything and remembered. Language - this is the embodiment of the mental energy of a people."
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    > Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: Evola's view on sexual inversion
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    > Burton also wrote an book on the Jew, the Gypsy and Islam (http://archive.org/details/TheJewTheGypsyAndElIslam).
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    > > Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: Evola's view on sexual inversion
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    > > > 'Terzo sesso e democrazia' (`The Third Sex and Democracy') is a third article by J. Evola on the question of homosexuality. It was published in the paper 'Il Borghese' in August 1968, at the time of the 'Brianbanti case'. Briabanti, a leftist intellectual, was condemned to nine years imprisonment for 'plagiarism', that is for having "submitted physically and psychically" two boys, a crime earlier introduced in Italian criminal law by Fascism (http://gnosis.aisi.gov.it/Gnosis/Rivista27.nsf/ServNavig/28) ; Italian intellectuals and civil libertarians all fought against his conviction ; it was the first time in Italian history that these advocated as a whole for homosexual issues.
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    > > > `Terzo sesso e democrazia' is, so to speak, the first draft of `Il Terzo sesso' (`The Third Sex') "Some ideas, J. Evola asserts wittily in the former, with reference to homosexual issues, are like bacteria, like microbes ; it is as legitimate to neutralise them as it is legitimate to take preventive prophylactic measures in the field of diseases. The fact that homosexuality is not considered as a crime in our ('Roman') penal code and that therefore the propagandising of homosexuality is not a crime either is fair. But, beyond the penal and juridical sphere, the aforementioned preventive measures remain entirely valid." On the basis of these premises, the claim that they could be applied successfully only to the second of the two forms of homosexuality distinguished in a sexological way in `Metaphysics of sex', that is, that "which has an acquired character and is conditioned by psychological and sociological factors influenced by a person's environment",
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