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Even Evola, in 'Roma e il natale solare nella tradizione nordico-aria' (La Difesa della razza, 1940) made a little "lapsus calami" when he wrote that the 25 December is the day of the winter solstice, while it just symbolizes it. 

Xmas, is celebrated now about 4 days after the true astronomical solstice (solar ingress into Capricorn). In Rome, after the beginning of the Saturnalia, the day of the solstice was dedicated to the goddess Angerona, the one who overcomes the "angustiae", the fears of the longest night of the year. The emperor Aurelianus initiated the Natalis Solis Invicti related to the solar god Mithras, the favourite of the legionaries, just the 25 December, to which Christianity merely superimposed its Nativity.

Now, why Aurelianus chose the day 25  for celebrating the feast-day of the Sun, instead of simply remove Angerona from the calendar at the solstice? It's not clear. 

By the way, an oddity of the Christian Xmas is that St. Luke talks of "shepherds keeping watch over their flock by night", but in Palestine the sheep-rearing stopped in winter. For not talking of the uncertainty about the year, because no document, apart from the Gospel, confirms the famous "census" that obliged the Holy Family to move to Bethlehem.

We are on a mythical stage.

 

 
 
 
 


Sat Dec 25, 2010 1:47 pm

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Even Evola, in 'Roma e il natale solare nella tradizione nordico-aria' (La Difesa della razza, 1940) made a little "lapsus calami" when he wrote that the 25...
vandermok
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Dec 26, 2010
11:32 am

When the Church says that, in the dogmas of religion, reason is totally incompetent and blind, and its use to be reprehended, it is in reality attesting the...
Joel Dietz
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Dec 27, 2010
3:50 pm

"(t)he difficulty is to teach the multitude that something can be both true and untrue at the same time", and this is precisely why the Church never ventured...
Evola
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Dec 27, 2010
4:44 pm

From Schopenhauer's Dialogue on Religion: Speaker 1: If would really be an extremely useful inquiry to try to make a completely impartial and accurate...
Joel Dietz
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Dec 29, 2010
12:04 pm

Well, Julius Caesar must have had the same lapse, when he established December 25 as the date of the winter solstice in 46 BCE. Unfortunately, the date would...
Tony Ciapo
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Dec 29, 2010
11:59 am

Another oddity was spotted by Julius Africanus in the third century in the claim made in Luke, 23:44-45 ('And it was about the sixth hour, and there was a...
Evola
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Dec 29, 2010
3:23 pm

Thanks for the contribution, Tony. Probably it's simply as you say, even if it seems that, before Aurelianus, and precisely under the emperor Licinio (308 -...
vandermok
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Dec 29, 2010
8:26 pm

It seems that the difference between the solstice and the Natalis Solis Invicti has not to do with the calendar reformations, but as the emperor Julianus...
vandermok
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Dec 31, 2010
6:05 pm

Obviously, by Julian's time the date for the Winter Solstice no longer fell on 25 December due to the inaccuracy in the Julian calendar. Do you have a reliable...
Tony Ciapo
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Jan 1, 2011
12:33 pm

... From: Evola Another oddity was spotted by Julius Africanus in the third century in the claim made in Luke, 23:44-45 ('And it was about the sixth hour, and...
vandermok
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Dec 31, 2010
6:05 pm

Three days ago I sent this but did not appear on the forum. I send it again, if lost. ... I do not know how much Wikipedia is reliable, but anyway this matter...
vandermok
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Jan 7, 2011
9:52 pm

I am unaware of any explicit statement of Evola's on Christianity or the figure of Jesus Christ from the post- Heathen Imperialism part of his writings,...
Joel Dietz
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Jan 10, 2011
11:42 am

Absolutely. In “Maschera e volto dello spiritualismo contemporaneo”, Evola devoted a chapter to “esoteric Catholicism” and “integral...
Tony Ciapo
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Jan 12, 2011
1:59 pm

It would be very interesting to make that brilliant study, written from a traditional European standpoint, available to English-speaking readers of J. Evola...
Evola
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Jan 16, 2011
4:35 pm

I fail to see what "esoteric Catholicism" or "integral traditionalism" necessarily have to do with the figure of Jesus Christ. That various aspects of the...
Joel Dietz
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Jan 19, 2011
3:59 pm

Indeed, it is futile to criticise Christianity by philosophical arguments, which the Church fathers seem to have loved to resort to. As far as historical...
Evola
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Feb 14, 2011
8:50 pm

We can assume Evola appreciated the Gnosticism because it was a Hellenistic translation (or even a preamble?) of the Christian message. In reality we know very...
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Jan 12, 2011
1:41 pm

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