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Race and Religion ( was : Middle Ages)

"Christianity is at the root of the evil that has corrupted the West.
This is the truth, and it does not admit uncertainty.

(...) Christianity first infected the race of blonde Germanic
barbarians, (...)

The identification of our tradition with either the Christian or
Catholic tradition is the most absurd of errors."

(excerpt from 'Imperialismo pagano', Atanor, Todi-Roma 1928 -
http://www.centrostudilaruna.it/evolamedtrad.html ; the original,
'Tradizione Mediterranea contro tradizione cristiana', can be found
here : http://www.politicaonline.net/forum/showthread.php?p=5349574)

So, what happened in the author's mind during the three years which
separated the publication of 'Imperialismo pagano' and that of
'Heidnischer Imperialismus'? As a preamble to the examination of this
question, let us recall again, for those who have not noticed yet,
that this list is not meant to be a fan club, and that we are not into
hagiography. It is called Evola-as-he-is because our statements are
supported by quotations taken from his work, each time the question
tacked has been dealt with by this author. Since his views on some of
these questions have developed to a greater or lesser extent
throughout the years, we also try to account for this development by
relevant quotations. Once they have been exposed, they are critically
examined and discussed, to the best of the abilities of members, and
taken into account, when backed by arguments. Verbal incantation and
psittacism do not interest us in any way. Nor do they impress us in
any way.

So, to go back to the matter at hand, what happened, not only in J.
Evola's mind, between the publication of the anti-Christian
'Imperialismo pagano' and that of 'Heidnischer Imperialismus'? "There
was a reason for these disproportionate reactions [ the "true
avalanche of attacks from the entire chain of newspapers served by the
relevant agency [which] followed [the publication of 'Imperialismo
pagano']], the author pointed out in 'Il Cammino del cinabro' thirty
years later, the Concordat had not been signed yet, and it was feared
that someone behind the scenes wanted to spoil the game." Still in the
same passage, which is contained in the English edition of
'Heidnischer Imperialismus', which will be published and available on
the 23rd of December), he added : "The most scathing aspect of the
book was its attack on the religious problem, and the obviously
convincing character of my thesis elicited many alarmed reactions. I
asked to what extent the essential values of Fascist `ethics' were
compatible with Christian ones, and whether it was not mere stale
rhetoric to recall Rome and its symbols without reviving also its
inseparable counterpart, the spirituality of heathenism, irreducible
to Christianity."

No matter J. Evola's and others' efforts, the Concordate was signed a
few months after the publication of 'Imperialismo pagano'. The worse
had happened, and it was irreversible. It was then about 'sauver les
meubles' : trying to salvage as much as possible. Hence, in 'Heathen
Imperialism' (published a few months after the signing of the
Concordate), a change of strategy, and the low-key character of his
stand, if not on Christianity, at least on Catholicism, as showed by
the excerpts you quoted from 'Heathen Imperialism'. From then on to
'Men among the Ruins', his stand on Catholicism will not vary. It is
summarised in the interview he gave in French in late 1966 to 'La
Nation Européenne', and which was published in the issues 13 (15
December 1966 - 15 February 1967) and 14 (15 February - 15 March 1967)
of that paper : "If il Christianity has undoubtedly altered certain
European values, yet, in some cases, these values have turned out to
be rectified and modified by Christianity." Note that he has never
said which ones he thought had been "rectified"
(http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/1856/Muti.htm).

Originally, this stand was dictated by an attempt to 'wheedle' the
Church to convince it to assume a traditional function, more than by a
true conviction. Once again, this is not a personal interpretation of
ours. It's all written down in 'Il Cammino del cinabro' as well as,
possibly even more explicitly, in his preface to the Italian edition
of Guénon's 'La Crise du monde moderne', which, hopefully, will be
published some day in English. The second factor which explains his
change of stand towards Christianity is the discovery of the French
metaphysician's work and the influence, deleterious to some extent,
which it exerted on him henceforth. In 'Il Cammino del cinabro', J.
Evola, looking back at 'Imperialismo pagano', may have considered it
as a "youthful" work ; the fact remains that the views expressed on
Christianity in this "youthful" work were along the same wavelength as
those expressed by the still sound part of the Roman aristocracy on
that Semitic religion.

Had the Third Reich prevailed over the Jew and over "spiritually
circumcised" goyim, some have speculated, the collaboration between
the SS and J.Evola could have been even more fruitful, and the
latter's work would have taken another dimension.
The anti-racist Piero Mancuso, in 'Il seme Dell'odio', has tried to
show that Evola's racism was actually far closer to the biological
racism upheld by the National-Socialist leadership than superficial
readers of the former's work and those who pontificate relentlessly
about National-Socialist racism without ever having opened any of the
works written by racialist Germans tend to assume, and,
unsurprisingly, he has been successful
(http://www.fuocosacro.com/pagine/articoli/ilsemedell'odio.htm). Both
agreed on the necessity of racial purity and of racial hygiene. Racial
purity and racial hygiene is paramount in the Veda ; those who are not
aware of this may want to read the Veda, to begin with, just to make
sure they know what they talking about and they are not rambling about
a tradition which never existed, except in their mind. Ayurveda is a
branch of Vedic science which explains the art of producing healthy
progeny for the creation of a better society. In other words, it is
about eugenics, which, therefore, at the risk of disappointing
anti-racists and adepts of 'spiritual racism', was not created in the
United States in the late XXth century. Even though J. Evola did not
mention them in his history of racism ('Il Mito del sangue'), racial
classifications do exist in early Buddhism (i.e. Purana Kassapa's and
Makkhali Gosala's), but, if you want to keep on living in a fantasy
world, all you have to do is to keep reading books such as F. Schuon's
'Castes and races' and similar 'traditionalist' poetry.

From a 'traditional' standpoint, everything you say in your message is
perfectly orthodox. From our point of view, it is aberrant.

We'll go back to it later.





--- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Toni Ciopa" <hyperborean@...>
wrote:
>
> It is difficult to know where to begin, since like the end of
> fireworks, which initially fascinate, but then come floating down in
> every direction like so many unrelated ideas. Yet, since every journey
> begins with the first step, the best first step would be "Evola as he
> is", or using another metaphor, to stand on the shoulder of a giant
> for a better view.
>
> As for Evola's opinion of the Middle Ages, we can quote from
> "Imperialismo Pagano":
>
> <<the grandeur of Rome, having risen from the forces of the Nordic
> Aryans, created the last, great, universal period in the West, the
> feudal-imperial civilisation of the Middle Ages.>>
>
> Hardly a negative judgment. It would behoove us to try to understand
> what is so great about that civilisation. By the way, no period since
> was considered by Evola to have reached such a height, and certainly
> not the Rome-Berlin Axis.
>
> A series of unrelated contingent events depicting disloyal subjects
> and the burial practices of low caste Estonians does not change that.
> The opinions of a post-modern, feminist, American university professor
> does not change that, all the more so since her definition of "racism"
> probably derives from Trotsky in 1922 who first coined the word.
>
> Evola is relentless in criticizing the views of the biological
> racists, including the two pamphlets published by Thompkins&Carriou.
> Let's keep the following points in mind to understand the Middle Ages
> and just what constitutes "racial consciousness".
>
> In "Three Aspects of the Jewish problem", Evola characterises the
> Aryan is not simply by blood, but "an affirmative attitude toward the
> divine." So to answer the question of the racial consciousness of the
> Middle Ages means to explore their attitude towrd the divine.
>
> Only confusion can arise by not properly distinguishing the Catholic
> system -- which is a determinate and positive thing -- from
> Protestantism and primitive Christianity, which are indeterminate and
> chaotic. Again, Evola from the same work:
>
> <<From an Aryan standpoint, the Catholic Church is all the more worthy
> as it has managed to Romaanise Christianity, resuming hierarchical
> ideas, traditions, symbols, and institutions that are related to a
> larger heritage, rectifying by means of the Roman spirit the
> pernicious element that is closely connected to Jewish Messianism and
> to the anti-virile Syrian mysticism peculiar to the revolution of
> primitive Christianity.>>
>
> Perhaps, in their Wisdom, this is what those Medieval kings saw. In
> Evola's hierarchical conception, and the conjunction of the royal and
> sacred functions, it is lawful for the King to choose the people's
> religion and any resistance is disloyalty and betrayal.
>
> The "political" excuse is absurd since, for Evola, the religious and
> the political elements are inseparable (just as they were for Maistre
> and every right thinking man).
>
> In the Middle Ages, Jews were either chased out or permitted to live
> in ghettos. This may be disliked by professors today, but it indicates
> a racial consciousness, one that was lost by the way whenever and
> wherever the Catholic Church began to lose its grip; e.g., Protestant
> England, Republican France, and then all over Europe. It wouldn't be
> absurd to look for a cause and effect relationship here.
>
> What is absurd is to look at recent and contemporary attempts to build
> a "racial consciousness" on a purely material and biological plane, a
> course doomed to failure, and worse than failure, as the mistakes of
> the first half of the 20th century have proven.
>
> No, as Evola repeatedly asserts, a racial awakening is really a
> spiritual awakening. He calls for a new Counter-Reformation and we can
> learn from the efforts of our ancestors in the Middle Ages.
>
> <<Only a profound spiritual change and regeneration and a move from
> within that would resurrect those values ... from an essentially
> super-biological and super-racial point of view, in terms of type of
> civilisation, can lead to a real solution.>> (ibid)
>
> Not a Fata Morgana, but a "real" solution. But if you don't know what
> to look for, you will never see it, even when it is pointed out.
>





Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:54 pm

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It is difficult to know where to begin, since like the end of fireworks, which initially fascinate, but then come floating down in every direction like so many...
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"Christianity is at the root of the evil that has corrupted the West. This is the truth, and it does not admit uncertainty. (...) Christianity first infected...
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The first step when it comes to understanding a text is to make sure that one reads it carefully and without prejudice, failing which, consciously or not, one...
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