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Re: [evola_as_he_is] Re: Serrano and Evola

In "Introduzione alla magia" vol. III, Roma 1971, Evola clears up this point, but the gist does not change. Anyway the work of C. G. Jung remains an interesting reading-matter, if one is exactly capable to distinguish between psychic and spiritual levels.
The wise man says that a psychic experience is always something in becoming, while a spiritual one gives a final knowledge, but the problem is absolutely uneasy.
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From: Tony Ciapo
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Subject: RE: [evola_as_he_is] Re: Serrano and Evola

 

Evola deals with Jung in “Maschera e Volto dello Spiritualismo Contemporaneo” and demonstrates his understanding of Jung. In confounding a true spiritual change with psychological change, Jung is “even more dangerous than Freud because of his being more subtle and spiritual”.

Jung referred to Evola’s “Hermetic Tradition” favourably in his work on Alchemy. As a scientist, Jung denied that the Archetypes were equivalent to Platonic ideas. Serrano forgot to mention the Self archetype which Jung links to “Christ” and integrates all the “polytheist” gods in a higher unity. Now it is certainly possible that Jung’s true viewpoint is not reflected in his “scientific” works, something he implies in his autobiography.

Serrano was “politicized” as a youth as he mentions even if he chose not to make that explicit in his earlier writings. Serrano rejects Guenon and with him the entire project of “Traditionalsim”. To try to take Evola without his Traditional roots can only result in misunderstanding. That is why Serrano does not understand Evola’s critique of some aspects of neo-paganism, nor of “spiritual races”. Apparently Serrano does not consider Evola – a son of “Southern Italy” – to be properly of Aryan blood.

From: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com [mailto:evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Evola
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 5:03 AM
To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: Serrano and Evola

 


This is a very good point, which will be included in the critical examination we intend to present of the paragraphs of 'Adolf Hitler : The Last Avatar' dealing with J. Evola's work, when we are able to offer an English translation of the whole corpus.

--- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "vandermok" <vandermok@...> wrote:
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> "The Hermetic Circle" is a juvenile work by a not yet politicized Serrano, but as far as I remember, C.G. Jung does not reveal unusual aspects in these conversations. The sentence of Evola, if authentic, sounds strange. Must we think that before he knew Jung mostly by hearsay? Impossible: he quoted the Jung's introduction to "Das Geheimnis der goldenen Blüte", "Psychologie und Alchemie", "Die Beziehungen zwischen dem Ich und dem Unbewussten" and the work with K. Kereny, "Einführung in das Wesen der Mythologie".
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> To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 11:35 AM
> Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: Serrano and Evola
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> (....)
> Coming back to 'Adolf Hitler : The Last Avatar', the following excerpt is worth quoting because of the reference it contains to a comment that was made by the Italian author to M. Serrano a few months before he died : "Evola was very anti-Jungian, being opposed to psychoanalysis which he considered to be Jewish. (A position with which I agree completely). As a letter of introduction I sent him from Vienna my book translated into German, "Meine Begegnungen mit C.G. Jung und Hermann Hesse," title that the Swiss publisher gave to "The Hermetic Circle." In it I refer, as is known, to my conversations with professor Jung and Hermann Hesse. Evola received me saying: "I read your book. In truth I am ignorant of those aspects of Jung you reveal." And he went on to recommend the magnificent Tantric work "The Metaphysics of Sex."
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(a particularly important reference was left out by mistake of the article we posted yesterday, in which there were four typos, so we might as well post it...
Evola
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Mar 24, 2010
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Die "Integralen Traditionalisten" fragen sich: Wenn die traditionelle Gesellschaft" der Ursprünge, das Goldene Zeitalter Hyperboreas, jenes Erden-Paradies,...
G. van der Heide
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May 10, 2011
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In der Auffassung Bachofens findet Julius Evola die Grundlage für eine spiritualistische Rassenbestimmung. Dem Arisch-Nordischen entspricht die...
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May 10, 2011
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"The Hermetic Circle" is a juvenile work by a not yet politicized Serrano, but as far as I remember, C.G. Jung does not reveal unusual aspects in these...
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May 30, 2011
10:25 am

This is a very good point, which will be included in the critical examination we intend to present of the paragraphs of 'Adolf Hitler : The Last Avatar'...
Evola
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May 30, 2011
11:14 am

Evola deals with Jung in “Maschera e Volto dello Spiritualismo Contemporaneo” and demonstrates his understanding of Jung. In confounding a true spiritual...
Tony Ciapo
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May 30, 2011
8:08 pm

This is also a very good point as regards to J. Evola's understanding of Jung's work. Yet, when it comes to 'tradicionalistas integrales', you know as well as...
Evola
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May 30, 2011
8:28 pm

Evola’s essay on Esoteric Catholicism is available in an English translation here: http://www.gornahoor.net/library/EsotericCatholicism.pdf Since the...
Tony Ciapo
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Jun 1, 2011
2:51 pm

In his work M. Serrano adopts C.G. Jung's theory of explicitly racial archetypes. This racial interpretation he defends before and during the war. In the...
G. van der Heide
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May 31, 2011
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In "Introduzione alla magia" vol. III, Roma 1971, Evola clears up this point, but the gist does not change. Anyway the work of C. G. Jung remains an...
vandermok
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May 31, 2011
9:24 am

If the Sicilian Evola was not properly of Aryan blood in the mind of Serrano, just fancy about our "hidalgo" born in the southern hemisphere...He surely would...
vandermok
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May 31, 2011
7:22 pm

Doesn’t Serrano claim to be a Visigoth from Galicia, a part of Spain remote from the lands conquered by the Moors? Just as this writer can claim heritage...
Tony Ciapo
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Jun 1, 2011
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This may very well be the bottom line with respect to M. Serrano's misunderstanding of the core of the racial doctrine exposed by J. Evola. The reason we would...
Evola
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Jun 1, 2011
3:39 pm

OK, I read #1256. It makes sense that the meeting never took place because you would think that Evola’s racial theory would have been the primary topic of...
Tony Ciapo
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Jun 2, 2011
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