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The so-called 'liaisons dangereuses' of Julius Evola   Message List  
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Re:The so-called 'liaisons dangereuses' of Julius Evola

Very interesting. It seems to me that at current in the West there is an unfortunate trend to associate Crowley as the 'beginning and end' of all things esoteric - to the uneducated perhaps. There are however a number of falsifictaions in Crowley's 'work' which cannot be excused. The OTO 'sex' magick is rather ficitious thing, which seems largely to be fabricated from a very rudimentary understanding of Tantra with a few Masonic/Yiddish and Egyptian motifs thrown in. Given that Evola seems to have had a superior undstanding of Tantrik technique (judging from the Yoga of Power) he should have been able to spot the hidden teachings (such as they are) of the OTO with relative ease - and furthermore identified them as erroneous.On that alone it seems highly likely that Evola would not have been too greatly concerned with Thelema; I am sure the liberal contingent found therein also would not have been terribly appeasing. On a related note: 'The Order of the Iron Wreath' as found on your website, was that ever put into practice or did it exist purely in the theoretical stages?
 
It is a great irony to many 'Wiccans' that the founder of modern Wicca was a man (due to the hefty feminist regime the movement is composed of) - didn't Crowley also write  some of the rituals for Gardner (which would explain the similarities I suppose)?

evola_as_he_is <evola_as_he_is@...> wrote:

A few scholars have accused Evola of having had relations and
compromised himself with esotericists like Crowley and de Naglowska.
We tried to determine where they got their information from, in vain
for some time, until we got to hear of a booklet called 'Les liaisons
dangereuses de Julius Evola : Alesteir Crowley, Gerald Brousseau
Gardner et Maria de Naglowska' (Ars Magna, Nantes, 2003). Its title
suggest strongly that nothing good can come out of it, and the number
of pages only confirms it. It consists of four short texts - 'Julius
Evola et les thélémites' ; 'Julius Evola fut-il membre de l'OTO' -
'Quand Evola collaborait à la revue "sataniste" La Flèche' - 'Julius
Evola et la société théosophique indépendante de Rome'.

In the four-page 'Julius Evola et les thélémites', the few readers of
Evola who still haven't heard that he once collaborated with Reghini
learn it and, as for those who have never heard of Gerald Gardner,
they learn that he's the one who launched the Wicca movement, and
that he joined the OTO. Among anecdotes about Gardner and the OTO, a
few lines are devoted to Evola : "Evola may have been initiated into
the Ordo Templi Orientis. At least, that's what a report of
the 'Divisione Polizia Politica' of the 7th of April 1930 (...),
discovered by Dana Lloyd Thomas and published in the fourth issue
(1997) of the paper 'Politica romana', seems to indicate : "Julius
Evola is known in Parisian occultist circles to be affiliated to the
Ordo Templi Orientis". That - Kremmerzian/Reghinian - paper goes so
far as to give us the reference of the file : "ACS MI DGPS agr Cat.
A& f. Evola Julio (sic)". Leaving aside that, as opposed to the
Gestapo, the 'Divisione Polizia Politica' has made more than a few
Italians laugh, it is interesting to note that a man filed as 'Evola
Julio' by the Fascist secret police is called 'Julius Evola' in the
file built on him, and, besides, that 'Julio' is the Spanish form of
the Italian first name 'Giulio' : was the Italian official in charge
of Evola's file at the 'Divisione Polizia Politica' Spanish or of
Spanish origin then? However this may be, some of Evola's writings
were signed 'Jules', but none 'Julio'.

There is 'more' : Gardner is mentioned in a footnote to 'Metaphysics
of sex'. Doesn't this prove that Evola 'had close relations" with
Gardner? To Ars Magna, needless to say that it does : Evola was in
touch with Reghini, Reghini, not content with being a member of the
OTO, corresponded with Crowley, Gardner was closely acquainted to
Crowley : therefore, Evola was likely to be a Thelemist. Reality,
however, is far more simple : Fifteen years or so after the
publication of 'Metaphysics of Sex', Evola said in 'La congrega delle
streghe' (in 'Roma', 1971) : "I once had a strange visit. An
Englishman, tall, skinny, with a crown of white hair and with bulging
blue eyes whose iris was so clear that it looked aquamarine. He came
to inform me of the state of magic and of witches in Italy (...).
It's only a few years later that I got to know that that weird guy
was, in his way, an important character, that he was in touch
with 'witches' circles". As for Reghini, he was so close to Evola
that the latter felt like stating, in the second issue of Krur,
February 1929 : " The fact that Reghini is a Free-Mason is the reason
why, if we had to quote someone, he would be the last person we would
quote. In 'Ur', we sometimes had to censor passages from Reghini,
which were meant to establish, tendentiously and artificially, a
continuity between our tradition, in its hermetic forms, and Free-
Masonry". This clarification cannot be found in the successive
editions of the writings of 'Ur and Krur', neither in the Italian
ones, nor in 'Introduction to Magic'.

'Julius Evola fut-il membre de l'OTO' is a translation of a three-
page article published in 'Politica Romana' in 1997. Once again, Dana
Lloyd Thomas is quoted, but more extensively, on the same matter.
Faced with such an empty file, 'Politica Romana' concludes, more
prudently, but just as ingratiatingly : "It cannot be ruled out that
Evola may have had relations with Crowley or with some members of his
group, especially since he admitted he tried in vain to obtain the
manuscript called 'Agape Liber C : the Book of the Sangraal, which
contains "some of the most secret rituals of sexual magic of the OTO"
(cf. 'Metaphysics of Sex'). Evola's failure to obtain it could be due
to his being a mere neophyte to whom access to the innermost
doctrines and practices of the Ordo Templi Orientis was not granted".

To cap it all off, we are then told that "further proofs to those
suppositions are still lacking". "Further proofs"? Before thinking of
gathering "further proofs", can they come up with a single proof.
Basically, the file is empty : the explanation given by the author of
the article of the "failure" of Evola to get a copy of Crowley's
manuscript is a mere "supposition", based on a passage
of 'Metaphysics of Sex' in which Evola doesn't actually "admit"
anything, but makes a mere statement, and, besides, on a superficial
reading of the chapter from which it is taken : the criticism made by
Evola to certain problematic aspects of Crowley's teachings are
hidden to the reader by the author.

The gratuitous fanciful assumptions made in the third article are
based on the fact that an "article (sic) by de Naglowska, 'Le message
de l'étoile polaire', was published in the paper Ur", and that Evola
wrote an article for her own paper, 'La Flèche, organe d'action
magique', of which eighteen issues were published from October 1930
to December 1933 in Paris, where she was staying at that time. This
article, called 'Occidentalisme' and published in the issue of the
15th of February 1932, deals with the 'spiritualist peril' which,
besides the materialist peril, the West started to face at that time.
It is closely akin to the considerations developed in 'Maschera e
volto dello spiritualismo contemporaneo' the same year. The use
of 'magic in the process of renewal of Western civilisation wished
and actively backed up by Evola is the only thing in common between
that article and the conceptions of de Naglowska.

"The article ('Occidentalism') is followed by a short note : "the
authors of the above articles are not disciples of 'La Flèche'. These
are precious friends and collaborators which keep all their
independence and their originality with respect to our doctrine".

"Since Evola's text comes before this note, we therefore conclude
that it doesn't apply to him...Was he considered by Maria de
Naglowska as one of her disciples in 1932 then? There are strong
grounds for thinking that it was so when we read, in 'La Sophiale' by
Marc Pluquet, that the latter - who considered himself as the
spiritual son of de Naglowska - thought, following her death, of
visiting Evola in Rome". "Now, if the far-right ideas of the baron
are well-known, Ars Magna adds, Pluquet, as for him, was a far-
leftist! We may therefore wonder what united them...". Indeed, we
may, or we may not, if we don't want to waste time, and, since we
don't intend to waste time, we'll point out that Pluquet was so
enthusiastic about meeting Evola in Rome that he waited 32 years
before thinking about it : de Naglowska died in 1936 and Pluquet
thought of visiting Evola in 1978, as stated in 'La Sophiale' (
http://www.morgane.org/Gouttelettes/sophiale.htm ). At that time, he
felt like re-publishing de Naglowska's writings, and it is apparently
with that project in mind that he thought of visiting Evola in Rome.
Interestingly enough, one of his friends, whom he asked what he
thought of his idea of visiting Evola, told him that it was the last
thing to do. In this respect, there is another important detail that
the reader of 'La Sophiale' should note and point out : in his short
biography of de Naglowska, the name of Julius Evola is never
mentioned, not once, whereas the names of those who influenced her or
of those whom she was influenced by recur very often.

The publisher hopes that an "author (...) takes the risk to tackle
the relations between Julius Evola and the occultism of his time",
forgetting to specify for whom such a study would be risky : for the
author or for Evola's posterity? Unquestionably, it is for the author
that it would be risky, insofar as s/he could be bored to death, if
s/he decided to stick to the so-called "liaisons dangereuses" between
Evola and occultists of his time, empty as the file is. On the other
hand, the fourth article, based on a study of Marco Rossi
about 'Julius Evola and the Independent Theosophical Association of
Rome' has the merit of throwing a new light on the first years of
Julius Evola in Italian spiritualist circles. We'll go back over it.


P.s. : 'Le message de l'étoile polaire' can be read at
http://66.102.9.104/search?
q=cache:KsrmPHiW4fQJ:resist.gothic.ru/files/019.pdf++%22message+de+l%
27%C3%A9toile+polaire%22&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8








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A few scholars have accused Evola of having had relations and compromised himself with esotericists like Crowley and de Naglowska. We tried to determine where...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Dec 9, 2005
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Very interesting. It seems to me that at current in the West there is an unfortunate trend to associate Crowley as the 'beginning and end' of all things...
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Dec 11, 2005
10:01 am

At current in the West there is definitely "an unfortunate trend to associate Crowley as the 'beginning and end' of all things esoteric" - whether to the...
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2:25 pm

Yes, Gardner's fondness for flagellation, amongst other related ritual incidents, seems to be quite well documented from other sources also. The question is,...
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Dec 13, 2005
1:34 pm

Napoleon I who, as stressed a few days ago, was, with the man who led Germany from 1933 to 1945, one of the very few modern European statesmen who had a truly...
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Napoleon I pursued the legendary Iron Crown (now in Monza), symbol of the authority of the mythical chain of the Kings of Rome, made, according to the legend,...
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Dec 13, 2005
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Among the revolutionary leaders, a few aristocrats realised what they had done and the demonic nature of any revolution in the modern sense, when it was...
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Interestingly enough, Evola repeatedly refers to the figure of Metternich as the last genuine European statesmen and the political ideal to be emulated, the...
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Of course, it is. Haven't we repeatedly drawn the reader's attention to the fact that, as much E. Mullins is always correct when it comes to historical facts,...
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Given Evola's stress on the Vira mode of operation, I would guess that it was definately intended for practice. However, intentions do not always become...
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Dec 13, 2005
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Must we accept to consider Crowley as a true male? Anyway, the men looks more right for giving a rational Apollonian structure to the rites, EVEN Dionysian...
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Dec 11, 2005
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I doubt even Crowley would have considered himself as a 'true male' so I don't see why anyone else would need to do so. vandermok <vandermok@...> wrote:...
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In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com Savitar Devi <savitar_devi@...> ... I suspect you read male but thought macho. Anyway, if it is neither useful to...
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It seems to me that Evola considered the difference between male and female almost on a racial basis. He writes : "One should not wonder if woman is superior...
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