--- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "kshonan88" <kshonan88@y...>
wrote:
>
> I disagree. Its tiresome that N. is always taken out of context
> and his dislike of petty nationalism and his remarks on the
> contemporary Bismarckian politics of his time are always cited as
> N. favouring the Jews/the Allies or that he was somehow
> 'non-political'. Following N.'s BGE carefully, we see he actually
> prefers a blending of Med. and Nordic culture, in short, a
> classical Aryan form, in all its richness and varying hues...
> which is what NS set out to do. And
> considering N.'s ideal types were figures like Napoleon, Borgia,
> Caesar, etc., and Hitler's antisemitism was beyond good and evil,
> d not a mere Christian hatred of Jews
This is probably not the place to discuss Nietzsche's views on these
matters in more depth given that it is a forum devoted to Evola.
However, I never implied that Nietzsche favored the Jews/Allies or
was anti-political only that Hitler's crude methods would have
repulsed him. NS may have set out to construct something with
similar resonance but it is fairly clear they were well of the mark
in Nietzsche's terms. I cannot be sure how accurate the translation
is but some remarks from Evola, who saw NS as a dionysian tellurism
and not formed from above, may be pertinent in this regard and more
suited to the purpose of this forum, "One must realize that with
Hitler anti-Semitism had the role of a veritable obsession, whereby
it is not possible to fully explain the causes of this anti-Semitism
in its almost paranoid aspect, which had such tragic
consequences...Hitler's anti-Semitism had a forced, fanatical
character and points to a lack of inner control. This has led to a
stain of infamy on the Third Reich that will be very hard to wash
away." Il Fascismo (p180) cited in the intro to the American ed
of 'Men Among the Ruins.' If you want to believe Hitler was some
kind of messiah beyond good and evil and not just a crude demagogue
concerned with telluric forces and with no form from 'above' then
fine, but do not drag Herr Nietzsche's name into the mud with
him. "It is a matter of honour to me to be absolutely clean and
unequivocal regarding anti-Semitism, namely opposed, as I am in my
writings," from a letter to his sister and a final note to Overbeck
concludes "just now I am having all anti-Semites shot." Obviously
Nietzsche saw much in Judaism that needed to be opposed, ie the
chandala values that attempt to thwart Aryan ones, but given his
comments in such places as BGE250-251 and his discussion of the
concept of 'pure blood' in relation to the Law Code of Manu
in 'Twilight,' I am fairly sure he would not have found the Nazi's
methods to his taste and would have sided with individuals
like Junger who were initially sympathetic to general impetus of the
Nazi party but soon distanced themselves once they realised it was
just a crude and brutish mass movement with no formation
from 'above.'