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Re: [evola_as_he_is] Re: Education

Evola didn't touch up on the Merovingian period as much as possible in Rivolta, however, your quote about Byzantium is not what I was referring to, and is frankly, not my specialty.

And just as one could say that it is not enough to simply read Rivolta, as one should at least read, for example, Guenon, Bachofen, Spengler, and even Ernst Kantorowicz to get an understanding of its skeletal foundation, one could also say that Los' writings also must be examined in a similar way.


I lost interest in this book after it became impossible to read, but before this occurred I came across this: "the family history of the Merovingians forms a wellnigh unbroken chain of shameful deeds and misdemeanours: unbridled emotions of all kinds, measureless hatred, unfettered sensuality...sexual watonness...."

This is very similar to Gibbon's superficial treatment of the period in volume 6 of his Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.

One could also mention it was a time when the clergy hid under rocks and in caves because the warrior class ransacked their cathedrals daily, and they were clearly subordinate to the knights. It was under Carolingian rule that papal power increased.

The Merovingian period could be viewed very richly from an Evolian perspective were one to take the time to look deeper:

http://www.museedestempsbarbares.fr/index_eng.html





From: Evola <evola_as_he_is@...>
To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 10:35 PM
Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: Education

 
In essence, Los' views on the genesis of the Middle-Ages is closely akin to J. Evola's, as expressed in 'Revolt against the Modern World' - a book which should really be read by members who wish to contribute constructively to this forum : "The Byzantine imperial idea displayed a high degree of traditional spirit, at least theoretically... The empire once again was sacrum and its pax had a supernatural meaning. And yet, even more so than during the Roman decadence, all this remained a symbol carried by chaotic and murky forces, since the ethnic substance was characterized, much more so than in the previous imperial Roman cycle, by demon worship, anarchy, and the principle of undying restlessness typical of the decadent and crepuscular Hellenic-Eastem world."

"In order to follow the development of forces that shaped the Western world, it is necessary to briefly consider Catholicism. Catholicism developed through (a) the rectification of various extremist features of primitive Christianity; (b) the organization of a ritual, dogmatic, and symbolic corpus beyond the mere mystical, soteriological element; and (c) the absorption and adaptation of doctrinal and organizational elements that were borrowed from the Roman world and from classical civilization in general. This is how Catholicism at times displayed "traditional" features, which nevertheless should not deceive us : that which in Catholicism has a truly traditional character is not typically Christian and that which in Catholicism is specifically Christian can hardly be considered traditional. Historically, despite all the efforts that were made to reconcile heterogeneous and contradictory elements, and despite the work of absorption and adaptation on a large scale, Catholicism always betrays the spirit of lunar, priestly civilizations and thus it continues, in yet another form, the antagonistic action of the Southern influences, to which it offered a real organization through the Church and her hierarchy."

We will return to this.

--- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, Asdfasdsfdas Sfsdf <andreforcordelia@...> wrote:
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> The forward perhaps appeared promising because of how Stoddard was popular at the time, but the analysis seems trite and cliched, especially the stereotyped idea of 300 plus years of Merovingian rule as lasciviously Roman and decadent compared to the more chaste and farsighted Mayor domos. Perhaps lifted directly from superficial historians such as Gibbon. Merovingian France is the genesis of Medieval culture, the marriage of Roman and Nordic elements, like it or not.
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> And yes, the photocopying was not quite in the tradition of Cistercian scriptoriums.
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> From: kynard13 <kynard13@...>
> To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 12:51 PM
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> There's something seriously wrong with the scanning of this book.
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> --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "vnvsmvndvs" <vnvsmvndvs@> wrote:
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> > Since "the Golden Legend of Charlemagne" has been brought up more than once, here's an interesting booklet on the subject by the Dutch scholar F.J. Los
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Tue Nov 8, 2011 12:38 am

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`La Revolution commence par une orgie' is a chapter from G. Breton's best-seller `Histoires d'amour de l'histoire de France', a 3500-page well-documented work...
Evola
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Nov 1, 2011
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As a product of the wasteful shafting of the wallet and the brain, I suffered 4 (and a half) years of the university system, and daily ponder its utility. Not...
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Nov 1, 2011
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Since "the Golden Legend of Charlemagne" has been brought up more than once, here's an interesting booklet on the subject by the Dutch scholar F.J. Los...
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Thank you for drawing our attention to this book, whose author we did not know. The introduction, in line with Stoddard's and Yockey's analysis of the crisis...
Evola
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Nov 5, 2011
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There's something seriously wrong with the scanning of this book....
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The forward perhaps appeared promising because of how Stoddard was popular at the time, but the analysis seems trite and cliched, especially the stereotyped...
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Nov 7, 2011
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In essence, Los' views on the genesis of the Middle-Ages is closely akin to J. Evola's, as expressed in 'Revolt against the Modern World' - a book which should...
Evola
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Nov 7, 2011
10:35 pm

Evola didn't touch up on the Merovingian period as much as possible in Rivolta, however, your quote about Byzantium is not what I was referring to, and is...
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Nov 8, 2011
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We said that we would return to the Golden Legend of Charlemagne, when examining J. Evola's assessment, and not O. Spengler's, nor any other author's, of the...
Evola
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Nov 8, 2011
4:51 pm

Please again visit http://www.scribd.com/doc/71621063/F-J-Los-The-Franksfor an improved version. 2011/11/8 Evola <evola_as_he_is@...> ... Please again...
G. van der Heide
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Nov 8, 2011
10:01 pm

Yes, it's a mess. And only later did I find out that the paging is wrong. It deserves an update. 2011/11/7 kynard13 <kynard13@...>...
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