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Re: A message from below the Ivory Towers

So what? There is a hundred times more articles that want '300' a
movie promoting white supremacy, among other things.

Granted, the corrosive Jewish influence in the Western cultural sphere
has been pointed out more or less accurately in Evola's book on the
Jewish problem, and Mr. Miller, in saying that his duty is "to use all
of our skills to address, to satirize,to amuse," seems to make a point
to that effect. However, Evola also underlined that individual Jews
acting in the cultural sphere such as Miller are certainly not
scheming for subversion, for instance when he writes that "while
acknowledging the negative action that the Jewish element diffused in
the fabric of the various non-Jewish nations has often exerted, either
as a dinsintegrating and debasing 'intelligence'...we found extremely
problematic the anti-Semitic argument according to which this action
would be consonant with a pre-established plan, a real conspiracy of
the Jewish innate character," furthermore adding that "if, in relation
to the decay of civilisation in recent times, we have to speak of a
plan, we have already seen that it must be conceived as a plan in
which the Jewish elements is only an instrument of 'influences' whose
real centre lies in a sphere very different from that which is merely
conditioned by the 'souls' of the races" (p. 33). So perhaps next time
you can spare us all this raving non-sense about conspirational
scientists working in conjunction with cartoonists to pave the way for
a robotic Golem bent on exterminating the West. So-called
anti-Semitism has becomes pathetic and has lost all seriousness
because of preposterousness like that, and the people engaged in it do
not realise that they are just as much tools in the forces proper to
this period in the West as are Jews such as Miller.

Obviously, I have no problems with the Internet, nor with the people
who use it, but rather with selective research and when the frontiers
between speculation and fact, propaganda and research, ravings and
erudition blur, which is made all the worse when embittered people,
mystefiers or simply imbeciles are given access to the Internet.



--- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Thulean Imperial Inquisitor"
<asbrekka@...> wrote:
>
> I do wonder, if we'd be (mere) internet-warriors, and you (presumably)
> not; what'd you be?
> Since you bring the discussion to this level, larco_e_clava, one could
> also wonder: if the internet had existed at Evola's time (was already
> outlined when he was a teen: see for example Tesla's autobiography), (do
> you think) would he have used it? Or would he only have used
> offline typewriters?
>
> I am not unfamilar with "300" as I read the graphic-novel years before
> anyone knew that a movie was coming. The Hollywoodesque Jew Frank Miller
> did not invent the old tale of the heroic 300 Spartans. He did however
> rewrite it; with messages of his (and his kin's) own: filled with modern
> 'Clash of Civilizations' neo-politics. I even read about that agenda in
> a local, very mainstream, newspaper on my island. I read about it too,
> on dozens of mainstream websites which have no easily observable
> relation to us 'conspiracy-theorists'. I read about it in an offline
> interview with an Iranian, who wasn't all-too-happy about his
> forfathers, which he said were blue-eyed Aryans, being depicted as
> Afro-barbarian hordes. But lets just see what mister Miller himself
> says:
> If, Brownstein asked, images have that much power, as indicated by the
> so called cartoon jihad that sprung up as a result of a Danish cartoon,
> then what in Miller's opinion is the responsibility of the image makers.
>
> Miller believes that the "cartoon jihad" is simply another ploy to raise
> the anger of an element that is dedicated to the downfall of
> civilization, and not a true and natural reaction to the art.
>
> The jihadists are being written off, much like how the civilized world
> tried to convince itself that Hitler wasn't a real threat. Because the
> goal of world domination seems crazy to us, we convince ourselves they
> can't succeed. This is a response that, by Miller's estimation, is not
> serving western civilization well.
>
> [...]
>
> Comics can affect culture byallowing the world in, reflecting what we
> see. There is a reason,Miller says, that most of the great comics heroes
> were created byJewish people that lived through the early part of the
> century. To acertain extent, they were creating a golem, a hero they
> needed toexist. Their comics were a response to they times they lived,
> somethingthat comics have largely gotten away from and need to return if
> they'regoing to be a significant voice in modern culture.
>
> [...]
>
>
> The Spartans [in his book] are definitely [Miller's] Spartans, and while
> they might not be perfectly historically accurate, they sure look cool
> [as you evidently think, larco_e_clava].
>
>
>
>
> Miller feels that the story of "300"-- where a small band ofSpartan
> warriors fend off a vast Persian army in a battle that probablysaved
> modern civilization-still has relevance today, reflecting thestruggle in
> the middle east and the fight of modern society againstcertain
> fundamentalist Islamic groups.
> [http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=6560]
>
>
> Superheroes, Miller asserted, are "folk heroes. How can a folk herohave
> nothing to do with folk?" These days, he continued, we're "now ina clash
> of civilizations," and "superheroes should be front andcenter."
>
> Brownstein asked Miller whether superheroes are too "preposterous"to be
> used in such a context. Miller answered with a rhetoricalquestion: "What
> made Achilles relevant?" In his view, Miller explained,superheroes are
> "gods," �not the ones we worship, but more likemythological gods
> "who live among us." Moreover, thanks to theirpopularity, superheroes
> afford Miller "the biggest megaphone I canfind."
>
> [...]
>
> Brownstein asked why superheroes have become so popular in film andother
> media in recent years. "My guess is that the audience is reactingto
> mythology in everything from Superman to Batman to Sin City,"
> Millersaid, noting that each "plays on themes that are really ancient."
> [...]
>
> [...]
>
> And what about those people who don't want political themes in
> theircomics and "just want pure escapism," asked Brownstein. "There are
> anawful lot of people [in mainstream comics] who are giving them
> justthat," Miller replied. "But I am out to provoke." [...]
>
> [...]
>
>
> Asked to respond to the controversy over those Danish cartoons andthe
> angry, violent Muslim response? "The harsh truth is that we'refacing an
> enemy that keeps telling us what they are and what theywant," declared
> Miller, adding that people refuse to believe it. "Theyhave made it plain
> they want to exterminate the Jews, to bring down theWest, to achieve
> world dominion," Miller warned, likening Islamicextremists to the Nazis
> in the 1930s.
>
> Miller described the rage over the cartoonists as "a trumped-upstunt,"
> and said radical Muslim leaders are just "looking for somethingto yell
> about." He concluded, "It's just pathetic. If people can'tstand cartoons
> about religion, they've got a problem."
>
> Miller said he regards the cartoonist as an "assassin" who firesarrows
> with rubber suckers on one end. Miller maintained that the dutyof a
> cartoonist is "to use all of our skills to address, to satirize,to
> amuse." By doing so, he continued, cartoonists are "getting back totheir
> roots." He pointed out that all of the major superheroes of the1940s
> were created by Jews during a time of anti-Semitic persecution:"Superman
> was a golem." And while he said that he "won't tell JeffSmith that Bone
> has got to [go on a political] crusade," Millernonetheless issued a call
> to his fellow comics pros: "Let's revive ourtradition and get back on
> the job."
>
>
> [http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6311604.html]
>
> Being the 'conspiracy theorist' that I am, and having cited too many
> mainstream sources, I really most throw in one other crackpot like me:
>
http://www.davidduke.com/general/the-movie-300-neocon-racial-propaganda-\
> for-war_2381.html
>
> If you're interested in more muscled warriors, free, and some possibly
> oiled-up too (more likely wearing underwear over tight suits though),
> here is a select bibliography:
> http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/5756/JWISHC.HTM
>





Fri Oct 3, 2008 12:02 am

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According to 'The Road of Cinnabar', as we pointed out in message 4, Julius Evola once planned to write a 'Secret History of the Secret Societies', but this...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Sep 25, 2008
12:20 am

This is of interest: "Golem: Myth, Magic or Machine": http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=52AfWzhaHVs Watching it reminded me of a comic I saw as a kid in which a...
Thulean Imperial Inqu...
sithwalker Offline Send Email
Sep 26, 2008
7:39 pm

This, as well as a number of other themes elaborated by Evola, remind one of comic books, often with astounding resemblance. What's even more astounding, and...
larco_e_laclava Offline Send Email Sep 27, 2008
9:23 pm

With all due respect, I'm not sure what you're saying (English isn't my native language). If you're implying that I was comparing Evola to a comic-book...
Thulean Imperial Inqu...
sithwalker Offline Send Email
Sep 28, 2008
1:18 am

In his writings on ancient Rome, J. Evola, probably inspired by de Gobineau's considerations on the rise and fall of ancient civilisations, made a decisive...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Sep 28, 2008
2:00 am

By the way, Frank Miller is also the director of 'Sin City', a blood's bath recyclings all imaginary dregs of Manga and comic books with a sure impact on the...
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Sep 29, 2008
7:03 pm

He's also the creator of the fictional retelling of the Battle of Thermopylae, 300. Do you also find any thing objectionable in this comic/movie? I would doubt...
larco_e_laclava Offline Send Email Sep 30, 2008
11:29 pm

I do wonder, if we'd be (mere) internet-warriors, and you (presumably) not; what'd you be? Since you bring the discussion to this level, larco_e_clava, one...
Thulean Imperial Inqu...
sithwalker Offline Send Email
Oct 2, 2008
8:11 pm

Add to that--and the ad hominem is perfectly justified--that one is not in the best position to speak so fiercely, as it would seem, against comics and mangas...
larco_e_laclava Offline Send Email Oct 4, 2008
1:05 am

So what? There is a hundred times more articles that want '300' a movie promoting white supremacy, among other things. Granted, the corrosive Jewish influence...
larco_e_laclava Offline Send Email Oct 4, 2008
1:07 am

Most, if not all, western Medias are Jewish-owned. Art (business) is Jewish-owned. The whole movie industry is Jewish-owned. Just as, in any ancient...
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