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Re: A message from below the Ivory Towers

Add to that--and the ad hominem is perfectly justified--that one is
not in the best position to speak so fiercely, as it would seem,
against comics and mangas when one has these publicly listed in one's
"hobbies".

--- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Thulean Imperial Inquisitor"
<asbrekka@...> wrote:
>
> I do wonder, if we'd be (mere) internet-warriors, and you (presumably)
> not; what'd you be?
> Since you bring the discussion to this level, larco_e_clava, one could
> also wonder: if the internet had existed at Evola's time (was already
> outlined when he was a teen: see for example Tesla's autobiography), (do
> you think) would he have used it? Or would he only have used
> offline typewriters?
>
> I am not unfamilar with "300" as I read the graphic-novel years before
> anyone knew that a movie was coming. The Hollywoodesque Jew Frank Miller
> did not invent the old tale of the heroic 300 Spartans. He did however
> rewrite it; with messages of his (and his kin's) own: filled with modern
> 'Clash of Civilizations' neo-politics. I even read about that agenda in
> a local, very mainstream, newspaper on my island. I read about it too,
> on dozens of mainstream websites which have no easily observable
> relation to us 'conspiracy-theorists'. I read about it in an offline
> interview with an Iranian, who wasn't all-too-happy about his
> forfathers, which he said were blue-eyed Aryans, being depicted as
> Afro-barbarian hordes. But lets just see what mister Miller himself
> says:
> If, Brownstein asked, images have that much power, as indicated by the
> so called cartoon jihad that sprung up as a result of a Danish cartoon,
> then what in Miller's opinion is the responsibility of the image makers.
>
> Miller believes that the "cartoon jihad" is simply another ploy to raise
> the anger of an element that is dedicated to the downfall of
> civilization, and not a true and natural reaction to the art.
>
> The jihadists are being written off, much like how the civilized world
> tried to convince itself that Hitler wasn't a real threat. Because the
> goal of world domination seems crazy to us, we convince ourselves they
> can't succeed. This is a response that, by Miller's estimation, is not
> serving western civilization well.
>
> [...]
>
> Comics can affect culture byallowing the world in, reflecting what we
> see. There is a reason,Miller says, that most of the great comics heroes
> were created byJewish people that lived through the early part of the
> century. To acertain extent, they were creating a golem, a hero they
> needed toexist. Their comics were a response to they times they lived,
> somethingthat comics have largely gotten away from and need to return if
> they'regoing to be a significant voice in modern culture.
>
> [...]
>
>
> The Spartans [in his book] are definitely [Miller's] Spartans, and while
> they might not be perfectly historically accurate, they sure look cool
> [as you evidently think, larco_e_clava].
>
>
>
>
> Miller feels that the story of "300"-- where a small band ofSpartan
> warriors fend off a vast Persian army in a battle that probablysaved
> modern civilization-still has relevance today, reflecting thestruggle in
> the middle east and the fight of modern society againstcertain
> fundamentalist Islamic groups.
> [http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=6560]
>
>
> Superheroes, Miller asserted, are "folk heroes. How can a folk herohave
> nothing to do with folk?" These days, he continued, we're "now ina clash
> of civilizations," and "superheroes should be front andcenter."
>
> Brownstein asked Miller whether superheroes are too "preposterous"to be
> used in such a context. Miller answered with a rhetoricalquestion: "What
> made Achilles relevant?" In his view, Miller explained,superheroes are
> "gods," �not the ones we worship, but more likemythological gods
> "who live among us." Moreover, thanks to theirpopularity, superheroes
> afford Miller "the biggest megaphone I canfind."
>
> [...]
>
> Brownstein asked why superheroes have become so popular in film andother
> media in recent years. "My guess is that the audience is reactingto
> mythology in everything from Superman to Batman to Sin City,"
> Millersaid, noting that each "plays on themes that are really ancient."
> [...]
>
> [...]
>
> And what about those people who don't want political themes in
> theircomics and "just want pure escapism," asked Brownstein. "There are
> anawful lot of people [in mainstream comics] who are giving them
> justthat," Miller replied. "But I am out to provoke." [...]
>
> [...]
>
>
> Asked to respond to the controversy over those Danish cartoons andthe
> angry, violent Muslim response? "The harsh truth is that we'refacing an
> enemy that keeps telling us what they are and what theywant," declared
> Miller, adding that people refuse to believe it. "Theyhave made it plain
> they want to exterminate the Jews, to bring down theWest, to achieve
> world dominion," Miller warned, likening Islamicextremists to the Nazis
> in the 1930s.
>
> Miller described the rage over the cartoonists as "a trumped-upstunt,"
> and said radical Muslim leaders are just "looking for somethingto yell
> about." He concluded, "It's just pathetic. If people can'tstand cartoons
> about religion, they've got a problem."
>
> Miller said he regards the cartoonist as an "assassin" who firesarrows
> with rubber suckers on one end. Miller maintained that the dutyof a
> cartoonist is "to use all of our skills to address, to satirize,to
> amuse." By doing so, he continued, cartoonists are "getting back totheir
> roots." He pointed out that all of the major superheroes of the1940s
> were created by Jews during a time of anti-Semitic persecution:"Superman
> was a golem." And while he said that he "won't tell JeffSmith that Bone
> has got to [go on a political] crusade," Millernonetheless issued a call
> to his fellow comics pros: "Let's revive ourtradition and get back on
> the job."
>
>
> [http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6311604.html]
>
> Being the 'conspiracy theorist' that I am, and having cited too many
> mainstream sources, I really most throw in one other crackpot like me:
>
http://www.davidduke.com/general/the-movie-300-neocon-racial-propaganda-\
> for-war_2381.html
>
> If you're interested in more muscled warriors, free, and some possibly
> oiled-up too (more likely wearing underwear over tight suits though),
> here is a select bibliography:
> http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/5756/JWISHC.HTM
>





Fri Oct 3, 2008 12:06 am

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According to 'The Road of Cinnabar', as we pointed out in message 4, Julius Evola once planned to write a 'Secret History of the Secret Societies', but this...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Sep 25, 2008
12:20 am

This is of interest: "Golem: Myth, Magic or Machine": http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=52AfWzhaHVs Watching it reminded me of a comic I saw as a kid in which a...
Thulean Imperial Inqu...
sithwalker Offline Send Email
Sep 26, 2008
7:39 pm

This, as well as a number of other themes elaborated by Evola, remind one of comic books, often with astounding resemblance. What's even more astounding, and...
larco_e_laclava Offline Send Email Sep 27, 2008
9:23 pm

With all due respect, I'm not sure what you're saying (English isn't my native language). If you're implying that I was comparing Evola to a comic-book...
Thulean Imperial Inqu...
sithwalker Offline Send Email
Sep 28, 2008
1:18 am

In his writings on ancient Rome, J. Evola, probably inspired by de Gobineau's considerations on the rise and fall of ancient civilisations, made a decisive...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Sep 28, 2008
2:00 am

By the way, Frank Miller is also the director of 'Sin City', a blood's bath recyclings all imaginary dregs of Manga and comic books with a sure impact on the...
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charltonroad36 Offline Send Email
Sep 29, 2008
7:03 pm

He's also the creator of the fictional retelling of the Battle of Thermopylae, 300. Do you also find any thing objectionable in this comic/movie? I would doubt...
larco_e_laclava Offline Send Email Sep 30, 2008
11:29 pm

I do wonder, if we'd be (mere) internet-warriors, and you (presumably) not; what'd you be? Since you bring the discussion to this level, larco_e_clava, one...
Thulean Imperial Inqu...
sithwalker Offline Send Email
Oct 2, 2008
8:11 pm

Add to that--and the ad hominem is perfectly justified--that one is not in the best position to speak so fiercely, as it would seem, against comics and mangas...
larco_e_laclava Offline Send Email Oct 4, 2008
1:05 am

So what? There is a hundred times more articles that want '300' a movie promoting white supremacy, among other things. Granted, the corrosive Jewish influence...
larco_e_laclava Offline Send Email Oct 4, 2008
1:07 am

Most, if not all, western Medias are Jewish-owned. Art (business) is Jewish-owned. The whole movie industry is Jewish-owned. Just as, in any ancient...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Oct 4, 2008
9:16 pm

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