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Re: Religion and religion

--- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Rowan Berkeley"
<rowan_berkeley@y...> wrote:
>
> oh, come on, what is the idea of aryanism if not a dogma?
>



The Roman:



hostem cum fugeret, se Fannius ipse peremit.
hic, rogo, non furor est, ne moriare, mori?

"As he was fleeing the enemy, Fannius killed himself. I ask you! Is
this not madness - dying so as not to die?" (Epigrams of Martial,
2.80)



The Japanese:

"The Way of the Samurai is found in death. When it comes to
either/or, there is only the quick choice of death. It is not
particularly difficult. Be determined and advance. To say that dying
without reaching one's aim is to die a dog's death is the frivolous
way of sophisticates. When pressed with the choice of life or death,
it is not necessary to gain one's aim.

We all want to live. And in large part we make our logic according to
what we like. But not having attained our aim and continuing to live
is cowardice. This is a thin dangerous line. To die without gaming
one's aim is a dog's death and fanaticism. But there is no shame in
this. This is the substance of the Way of the Samurai. If by setting
one's heart right every morning and evening, one is able to live as
though his body were already dead, he pains freedom in the Way. His
whole life will be without blame, and he will succeed in his
calling." (Hagakure)



The Indian:

"Know naught! Life cannot slay. Life is not slain. ...This Life
within all living things... hides beyond harm... do thy
part. ...Either being killed, thou wilt win Swarga's safety, or alive
and victor - thou wilt reign an earthly king. Therefore, arise,...
nerve thy heart to meet as things alike to thee - pleasure or pain,
profit or ruin, victory or defeat: gird thee to the fight, for so,
thou shalt not sin!" (Krishna; Bhagavad Gita, 2)



What is common to them?


Honour?



1) I am Aryan, so I should want this.

2) Because I wanted this, I am Aryan. (This includes - Because I
wanted to be Aryan, I am Aryan.)


Honour is in the honesty of never moulding your dreams to fit in with
the thought, to do this is Aryan, to do this is un-Aryan...



I am a Warrior, so I should fight - This WAS Arjuna's thinking before
Krishna appeared.

I fight, therefore I am called a Warrior... This IS Arjuna's thinking
after.



Be it even the highest ideal, I think real Honour is in pursuing with
honesty, after our own nature... after that, whatever we may become,
whether we fit into that ideal or not, it does not matter anymore. We
become who we are, what we are.

I don't think Aryanism, or even the idea of it, has ever been
dogmatic.

Regards.










Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:15 pm

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oh, come on, what is the idea of aryanism if not a dogma? ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get?...
Rowan Berkeley
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Dec 5, 2005
4:17 pm

... The Roman: hostem cum fugeret, se Fannius ipse peremit. hic, rogo, non furor est, ne moriare, mori? "As he was fleeing the enemy, Fannius killed himself. I...
kshonan88 Offline Send Email Dec 16, 2005
10:10 am

As a matter of fact, in Sanskrit, 'jiv' means 'life, 'life- force' ; 'ji', 'to struggle', 'to beat', 'to win', to 'conquer'. Needless to elaborate. ... dying ...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Dec 16, 2005
8:53 pm

Joseph Campbell and Hans Zimmer hypothesized that some contradictions of the Zoroastrianism show just the presence of a pre-Aryan matriarchal cult in Iran. ...
vandermok
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Dec 6, 2005
4:24 pm

In which of Campbell and/or Zimmer's works can the information on pre-Aryan matriarchy be found? vandermok <vandermok@...> wrote: Joseph Campbell and...
Savitar Devi
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Dec 7, 2005
9:15 am

J. Campbell, Philosophies of India (The Bollingen series, XXVI) New York 1951. Also H.S. Nyberg, Die Religionen des Alten Iran, Leipzig 1938. I have not them;...
vandermok
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Dec 7, 2005
12:31 pm

I'd be very interested to read more about this, too, if anyone else can provide quotations. vandermok <vandermok@...> wrote: J....
Troy Southgate
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Dec 7, 2005
12:59 pm

To Whom It May Concern: Southgate would like someone else to do the research for him, since he does not feel up to doing it himself. He will then probably...
Tony Ciopa
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Dec 7, 2005
3:05 pm

Would it not be wise for the monitor of this group to delete all the "ad hominems"? ... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired...
caleb afendopoulo
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Dec 7, 2005
4:45 pm

We tolerate 'ad hominem' attacks to a certain extent, to the extent that, as pointed out by Seneca, as well as by Evola in 'Sintesi di dottrina della razza',...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Dec 7, 2005
4:59 pm

thank you for your reply. it just seemed to us that some of the replies bordered on childishness and/or based upon previous personal encounters which we are ...
caleb afendopoulo
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Dec 7, 2005
7:00 pm

In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com ... I agree that ataraxia is the best thing, but perhaps a justified feeling of hurt can rise when an 'ad hominem' attack...
vandermok
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Dec 9, 2005
12:38 pm

My own research speaks for itself: http://www.rosenoire.org (thanks for the chance to plug my website, Tony) Tony Ciopa <hyperborean@...> wrote:...
Troy Southgate
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Dec 7, 2005
8:07 pm

Troy Southgate wrote ... Think nothing of it, Tory - it is better to give than to receive!...
Tony Ciopa
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Dec 8, 2005
8:55 am

Thanks again, Tone. Tony Ciopa <hyperborean@...> wrote: Troy Southgate wrote ... Think nothing of it, Tory –...
Troy Southgate
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Dec 8, 2005
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