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Evola and the Aryan Impetus of the Templar Crusade and the black rose

Evola's assessment of the Templars couldn't be clearer, indeed, and
we are thankful to you for posting that excerpt from the American
edition of 'Il mistero del graal', which we don't have. Our point is
simply that, if, from a symbolic perspective, that from which Evola
look at things here, the Knight Templars, as well as the crusades,
appear the way he saw them, the fact is that there is a discrepancy
between the Knight Templars as symbols and the historical and
political reality of the Knights Templars. This discrepancy is so
huge and blatant that it can legitimately be wondered whether, there,
the symbols may have been used as a cover for a less spiritual
reality. By the protagonists themselves - not by Evola. "Hypotheses
as to the relationship between a manipulative Judaism and the
Templars (...) didn't exist in Evola's mind". One thing is to be
perfectly aware of the spiritual and political conditions for
the 'Imperium' in the abstract, another thing is to be able to
recognise its manifestations in history. This being said, is there a
single esotericist who wouldn't agree on the whole with Evola's meta-
historical interpretation of the phenomenon of the Knight Templars?
There is none, and there's never been any. Even Guénon fully agreed
with Evola on this point.

This being said, it looks like, even on the political plane, the
crusades could be justified, in some respects, from an Aryan
standpoint. It is clear that "During the Crusades, for the first and
only time in post-Roman Europe, the ideal of the unity of nations
(represented in peacetime by the Empire) was achieved on the plane of
action in the wake of a wonderful elan". But in the name of what
exactly? In the name of the Holy See or in the name of the Empire?
Certainly, the emperor "was stigmatized by Gregory IX as one
who 'threatens to replace the Christian faith with the ancient rites
of the pagan populations, and who by sitting in the Temple usurps the
functions of the priesthood." But who emerged as the winner? The Holy
see - although its triumph over the fall Constantinople was short-
lived. With the advent of Frederic II, whose figure was brilliantly
analysed by Evola, it is in vain that the council of Latrance (1215)
declared the supremacy of the pope above all temporal sovereigns.
Frederic II called himself Ever Augustus and sacred Emperor, spoke of
his Empire as that of the Caesars. Yet, at the end of the day, the
Empire was lost to the Ghibellines. Much energy was spent by the
Ghibellines on the crusades. Wouldn't it have been more appropriate
to spend it, in the heart of Europe, on their struggle against the
Guelfs? In this respect, it may be wondered whether the crusades were
used by the Holy See to distract a growing Ghibelline force from the
real issues.

We'll go back over the other issues you raised in your two previous
posts. In the meantime, we wonder on what grounds you allow yourself
to make the curious claim that "If we must condemn Mussolini for once
being entangled in modern Freemasonry and similar organizations,
Evola also stands charged". Unlike Mussolini, Evola never received a
black rose as a 'gift' against his will.


--- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "brightimperator"
<brightimperator@y...> wrote:
>
> Evola's assessment of the Templars (incidentally a subject touching
> me personally) couldn't be clearer: "Among the various knightly
> orders, the Order of the Knights Templar was the one that more than
> others overcame the double limitations constituted, on the one
hand,
> by the mere warrior ideal of the secular knighthood and, on the
> other hand, by the merely ascetic ideal of Christianity and its
> monastic orders. The Order of the Knights Templar approached more
> than others the type of the `spiritual chivalry of the Grail.'" [p.
> 128. The Mystery of the Grail]
>
> "The destruction of this order coincides with the interruption of
> the metaphysical tension of the Ghibelline Middle Ages… This marks
> the beginning of the decline of the West." [p.129]
>
> Hypotheses as to the relationship between a manipulative Judaism
and
> the Templars apparently didn't exist in Evola's mind. Hardly any
> other group or order receives this type of commendation in his
> works. If the speculations concerning the destructive ambiance
> surrounding the Knights Templar have a basis, is Evola's competence
> so low as to allow such a grand mistake on his part?
>
> Also, Aryans are, after all, Ares-born and their dynamism explodes,
> unfortunately, even intra-racially; Aryans have a longstanding
> tradition of reckless fratricidal warfare destructive of the lineal
> continuity of their own higher castes (Achaeans vs. Trojans, Medes
> vs. Persians, etc). Are the machinations of Judaism or Judeo-
> Christianity really necessary to effect this "Nordic depopulation"?
>
> As to the Crusades, which are seen by some in a quasi-
conspiratorial
> fashion, Evola declares: "The historical context in which the
> Crusades took place abounds with elements capable of conferring
upon
> them a potential symbolical and spiritual meaning. The conquest of
> the `Holy Land' located `beyond the sea' in reality had many more
> connections with ancient traditions than it was first thought;
> according to these traditions, `in the ancient East, where the sun
> rises, there lies the happy region of the Aesir and in it, the city
> of Ayard, where there is no death and where journeyers enjoy a
> heavenly peace and eternal life'" [p. 124. Revolt Against the
Modern
> World]. This Ayard, which obviously corresponds to Asgard, home of
> the Norse 'deities' (i.e. ancestral nobility) and heroes,
remarkably
> existed, before its memory was wholly mythologized, as an ancient
> Persian satrapy and Aryan religious center called ASAGARTA, located
> not too far geographically from the battle-scenes of the Crusades.
> (One must recall the designation `Germanii' originally goes back to
> an Irano-Aryan Persian tribe). See the facts here:
>
> http://www.livius.org/saa-san/sagartia/sagartia.html
>
> So, in a sense, to the Ario-Germanic aristocracy of Europe, their
> deep ancestry being what it was, the Crusades could be intuited as
> an attempt at a sort of homecoming by the Sons of Asgard, and a
> general reclamation of an Asia Minor once subject to the domination
> of the Aryan race.
>
> Evola: "The struggle against Islam, by virtue of its nature, shared
> from the beginning several common traits with asceticism…
Jerusalem,
> the military objective of the Crusades, appeared in the double
> aspect of an earthly and heavenly city (Jerusalem was often
> considered as an image of the mysterious Salem ruled by
> Melchizedek); and thus the Crusade became the equivalent in terms
of
> heroic tradition of a `ritual', a pilgrimage, and the `passion' of
> the via crucis.' Moreover, those who belonged to the orders that
> contributed the most to the Crusades—such as the Knights Templar
and
> the Knights of Saint John—were men who, like the Christian monks or
> ascetics, learned to despise the vanity of this life; these orders
> were the natural retirement place for those warriors who were weary
> of the world, who had seen and experienced just about everything,
> and who had directed their spiritual quest toward something higher.
> The teaching that VITA EST MILITIA TERRAM was instilled in these
> knights in an integral, inner, and outer fashion. Through prayers
> they readied themselves to fight and to move against the enemy.
> Their matins was the trumpet; their hair shirts, the armor they
> rarely took off; their fortresses, monasteries; the trophies taken
> from the infidels, the relics and the images of saints." [p. 126-7.
> Revolt]
>
> "During the Crusades, for the first and only time in post-Roman
> Europe, the ideal of the unity of nations (represented in peacetime
> by the Empire) was achieved on the plane of action in the wake of a
> wonderful elan… The analysis of the deep forces that produced and
> directed the Crusades does not fit in with the ideas typical of a
> two-dimensional historiography. In the movement toward Jerusalem
> what often became manifested was an occult current against papal
> Rome that was fostered by Rome itself; in this current chivalry was
> the militia and the heroic Ghibelline ideal was the liveliest
force.
> This current culminated in an emperor who was stigmatized by
Gregory
> IX as one who `threatens to replace the Christian faith with the
> ancient rites of the pagan populations, and who by sitting in the
> Temple usurps the functions of the priesthood.' The figure of
> Godfrey of Bouillon—the most significant representative of crusader
> chivalry, who was called LUX MONARCHORUM (which again reveals the
> ascetical and warrior element proper to this knightly aristocracy)—
> was that of a Ghibelline prince who ascended to the throne of
> Jerusalem after visiting Rome with blood and iron, killing the anti-
> Caesar Rudolf of Rhinefeld and expelling the pope from the holy
> city. The legend also established a meaningful kingship between
this
> king of the crusaders and the mythical Knight of the Swan (the
> French Helias, the Germanic Lohengrin), who in turn embodied
symbols
> that were imperially Roman (his symbolic genealogical descent form
> Caesar himself), solar (the etymological relation existing between
> Helias, Helios, and Elijah), and Hyperborean (the swan that leads
> Lohengrin from the `heavenly seat was also the animal representing
> Apollo among the Hyperboreans and a recurrent theme in paleographic
> traces of the Northern-Aryan cult). The body of such historical and
> mythical elements causes Godfrey of Bouillon to be a symbol during
> the Crusades, because of the meaning of that secret force that had
a
> merely external and contingent manifestation in the political
> struggle of the Teutonic emperors and in the victory of Otto I."
[p.
> 300-1. Revolt]
>
> So perhaps elements of a decidedly non-Judaic or supra-Judaic
> character (Asgard, Melchizedek, Ghibellinism, the Holy Grail,
> Hyperborean symbolism, etc.) were operative here?
>









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