Evola and Steiner

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  • vnvsmvndvs
    Have Evola s views on race been compared to those of Steiner? Or to better yet to ask, if there s anything positive at all to be found in Steiner s writings on
    Message 1 of 6 , Oct 10, 2013
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      Have Evola's views on race been compared to those of Steiner? Or to better yet to ask, if there's anything positive at all to be found in Steiner's writings on the subject?
    • G. van der Heide
      The other day we read some sensible passages on blood by Steiner, but combined with troublesome idea s about clairvoyance. Needless to go into the issue of
      Message 2 of 6 , Oct 11, 2013
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        The other day we read some sensible passages on blood by Steiner, but combined with troublesome idea's about clairvoyance. Needless to go into the issue of "root-races".


        From: g.vdheide@...
        To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 04:33:29 -0700
        Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Evola and Steiner

         
        Have Evola's views on race been compared to those of Steiner? Or to better yet to ask, if there's anything positive at all to be found in Steiner's writings on the subject?
      • evola_as_he_is
        To the best of our knowledge, there has not been any comparative study between the racial doctrine of J. Evola and R. Steiner’s views on race. Race is a
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          To the best of our knowledge, there has not been any comparative study between the racial doctrine of J. Evola and R. Steiner’s views on race. Race is a subject Anthroposophists prefer to ignore, while J. Evola’s racial doctrine has hardly been examined outside Italy ; with the exception, to some extent, of the Italian writer of the latest edition of ‘Il Mito del sangue” (SeAr, 1995), Alfonso De Filippi, Evola’s racial work has not been subjected to a comparative study. As far as we are concerned, what we know of Steiner’s views on race has not precisely encouraged us to put time and energy into such a task (the fuzziness of M. Serrano’s led us to give up along the way a similar study). What would be those « sensible passages on blood by Steiner » ?

          Meanwhile, these two writings turn out to be quite interesting, especially when compared : http://www.skepticreport.com/sr/?p=480 is by an anti-racist who intends to prove that Steiner was a racist, whereas http://www.defendingsteiner.com/refutations/ps01/Anthroposophy%20and%20Ecofascism.pdf, far more researched and documented, is by an anti-racist whose aim is to refute his thesis.



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          The other day we read some sensible passages on blood by Steiner, but combined with troublesome idea's about clairvoyance. Needless to go into the issue of "root-races".


          From: g.vdheide@...
          To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
          Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 04:33:29 -0700
          Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Evola and Steiner

           
          Have Evola's views on race been compared to those of Steiner? Or to better yet to ask, if there's anything positive at all to be found in Steiner's writings on the subject?
        • evola_as_he_is
          To the best of our knowledge, there has not been any comparative study between the racial doctrine of J. Evola and R. Steiner’s views on race. Race is a
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            To the best of our knowledge, there has not been any comparative study between the racial doctrine of J. Evola and R. Steiner’s views on race. Race is a subject Anthroposophists prefer to ignore, while J. Evola’s racial doctrine has hardly been examined outside Italy ; with the exception, to some extent, of the Italian writer of the latest edition of ‘Il Mito del sangue” (SeAr, 1995), Alfonso De Filippi, Evola’s racial work has not been subjected to a comparative study in any respect. As far as we are concerned, what we know of Steiner’s views on race has not precisely encouraged us to put time and energy into such a task (the fuzziness of M. Serrano’s once led us to give up along the way a similar study). What would be those « sensible passages on blood by Steiner » ?

            Meanwhile, these two writings turn out to be quite interesting, especially when compared : http://www.skepticreport.com/sr/?p=480 is by an anti-racist who intends to prove that Steiner was a racist, while http://www.defendingsteiner.com/refutations/ps01/Anthroposophy%20and%20Ecofascism.pdf, far more researched and documented, is by an anti-racist whose aim is to refute his thesis.



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            ---In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, <evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

            The other day we read some sensible passages on blood by Steiner, but combined with troublesome idea's about clairvoyance. Needless to go into the issue of "root-races".


            From: g.vdheide@...
            To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
            Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 04:33:29 -0700
            Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Evola and Steiner

             
            Have Evola's views on race been compared to those of Steiner? Or to better yet to ask, if there's anything positive at all to be found in Steiner's writings on the subject?
          • G. van der Heide
            The few texts written on the subject by Steiner we ve read worked very discouraging. The content of The occult significance of blood
            Message 5 of 6 , Oct 11, 2013
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              The few texts written on the subject by Steiner we've read worked very discouraging. The content of "The occult significance of blood" (http://wn.rsarchive.org/Lectures/OccBld_index.html) is equally confusing. And one has to ask what 20th century author of some importance didn't write about the meaning of blood, at some point?


              From: evola_as_he_is@...
              To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
              Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 06:59:34 -0700
              Subject: [evola_as_he_is] RE: Evola and Steiner

               

              To the best of our knowledge, there has not been any comparative study between the racial doctrine of J. Evola and R. Steiner’s views on race. Race is a subject Anthroposophists prefer to ignore, while J. Evola’s racial doctrine has hardly been examined outside Italy ; with the exception, to some extent, of the Italian writer of the latest edition of ‘Il Mito del sangue” (SeAr, 1995), Alfonso De Filippi, Evola’s racial work has not been subjected to a comparative study. As far as we are concerned, what we know of Steiner’s views on race has not precisely encouraged us to put time and energy into such a task (the fuzziness of M. Serrano’s led us to give up along the way a similar study). What would be those « sensible passages on blood by Steiner » ?

              Meanwhile, these two writings turn out to be quite interesting, especially when compared : http://www.skepticreport.com/sr/?p=480 is by an anti-racist who intends to prove that Steiner was a racist, whereas http://www.defendingsteiner.com/refutations/ps01/Anthroposophy%20and%20Ecofascism.pdf, far more researched and documented, is by an anti-racist whose aim is to refute his thesis.



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              ---In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, <g.vdheide@...> wrote:

              The other day we read some sensible passages on blood by Steiner, but combined with troublesome idea's about clairvoyance. Needless to go into the issue of "root-races".


              From: g.vdheide@...
              To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
              Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 04:33:29 -0700
              Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Evola and Steiner

               
              Have Evola's views on race been compared to those of Steiner? Or to better yet to ask, if there's anything positive at all to be found in Steiner's writings on the subject?

            • G. van der Heide
              Another possibility would be to compare Evola s racial writings to 19th and 20th century studies in physiognomy and characterology. Insofar as there are
              Message 6 of 6 , Nov 2, 2013
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                Another possibility would be to compare Evola's racial writings to 19th and 20th century studies in physiognomy and characterology.
                Insofar as there are similarities.

                By the way, the leader of a Swiss trans-European nationalist movement has an antroposophic background and apparently holds an interest in Evola's work. However, he still hasn't made his writings on the subject available. Curiously enough, that same organisation chooses to use the BLUE and the YELLOW in it's flag.


                From: g.vdheide@...
                To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:13:03 +0200
                Subject: RE: [evola_as_he_is] RE: Evola and Steiner

                 

                The few texts written on the subject by Steiner we've read worked very discouraging. The content of "The occult significance of blood" (http://wn.rsarchive.org/Lectures/OccBld_index.html) is equally confusing. And one has to ask what 20th century author of some importance didn't write about the meaning of blood, at some point?


                From: evola_as_he_is@...
                To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 06:59:34 -0700
                Subject: [evola_as_he_is] RE: Evola and Steiner

                 

                To the best of our knowledge, there has not been any comparative study between the racial doctrine of J. Evola and R. Steiner’s views on race. Race is a subject Anthroposophists prefer to ignore, while J. Evola’s racial doctrine has hardly been examined outside Italy ; with the exception, to some extent, of the Italian writer of the latest edition of ‘Il Mito del sangue” (SeAr, 1995), Alfonso De Filippi, Evola’s racial work has not been subjected to a comparative study. As far as we are concerned, what we know of Steiner’s views on race has not precisely encouraged us to put time and energy into such a task (the fuzziness of M. Serrano’s led us to give up along the way a similar study). What would be those « sensible passages on blood by Steiner » ?

                Meanwhile, these two writings turn out to be quite interesting, especially when compared : http://www.skepticreport.com/sr/?p=480 is by an anti-racist who intends to prove that Steiner was a racist, whereas http://www.defendingsteiner.com/refutations/ps01/Anthroposophy%20and%20Ecofascism.pdf, far more researched and documented, is by an anti-racist whose aim is to refute his thesis.



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                ---In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, <g.vdheide@...> wrote:

                The other day we read some sensible passages on blood by Steiner, but combined with troublesome idea's about clairvoyance. Needless to go into the issue of "root-races".


                From: g.vdheide@...
                To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 04:33:29 -0700
                Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Evola and Steiner

                 
                Have Evola's views on race been compared to those of Steiner? Or to better yet to ask, if there's anything positive at all to be found in Steiner's writings on the subject?


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