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I do wonder, if we'd be (mere) internet-warriors, and you (presumably) not; what'd you be?
Since you bring the discussion to this level, larco_e_clava, one could also wonder: if the internet had existed at Evola's time (was already outlined when he was a teen: see for example Tesla's autobiography), (do you think) would he have used it? Or would he only have used
offline typewriters?

I am not unfamilar with "300" as I read the graphic-novel years before anyone knew that a movie was coming. The Hollywoodesque Jew Frank Miller did not invent the old tale of the heroic 300 Spartans. He did however rewrite it; with messages of his (and his kin's) own: filled with modern 'Clash of Civilizations' neo-politics. I even read about that agenda in a local, very mainstream, newspaper on my island. I read about it too, on dozens of mainstream websites which have no easily observable relation to us 'conspiracy-theorists'.  I read about it in an offline interview with an Iranian, who wasn't all-too-happy about his forfathers, which he said were blue-eyed Aryans, being depicted as Afro-barbarian hordes. But lets just see what mister Miller himself says:
If, Brownstein asked, images have that much power, as indicated by the so called cartoon jihad that sprung up as a result of a Danish cartoon, then what in Miller's opinion is the responsibility of the image makers.

Miller believes that the "cartoon jihad" is simply another ploy to raise the anger of an element that is dedicated to the downfall of civilization, and not a true and natural reaction to the art.

The jihadists are being written off, much like how the civilized world tried to convince itself that Hitler wasn't a real threat. Because the goal of world domination seems crazy to us, we convince ourselves they can't succeed. This is a response that, by Miller's estimation, is not serving western civilization well.

[...]

Comics can affect culture byallowing the world in, reflecting what we see. There is a reason,Miller says, that most of the great comics heroes were created byJewish people that lived through the early part of the century. To acertain extent, they were creating a golem, a hero they needed toexist. Their comics were a response to they times they lived, somethingthat comics have largely gotten away from and need to return if they'regoing to be a significant voice in modern culture.

[...]

The Spartans [in his book] are definitely [Miller's] Spartans, and while they might not be perfectly historically accurate, they sure look cool [as you evidently think, larco_e_clava].

Miller feels that the story of "300"-- where a small band ofSpartan warriors fend off a vast Persian army in a battle that probablysaved modern civilization-still has relevance today, reflecting thestruggle in the middle east and the fight of modern society againstcertain fundamentalist Islamic groups.

[http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=6560]

Superheroes, Miller asserted, are "folk heroes. How can a folk herohave nothing to do with folk?" These days, he continued, we're "now ina clash of civilizations," and "superheroes should be front andcenter."

Brownstein asked Miller whether superheroes are too "preposterous"to be used in such a context. Miller answered with a rhetoricalquestion: "What made Achilles relevant?" In his view, Miller explained,superheroes are "gods," —not the ones we worship, but more likemythological gods "who live among us." Moreover, thanks to theirpopularity, superheroes afford Miller "the biggest megaphone I canfind."

[...]

Brownstein asked why superheroes have become so popular in film andother media in recent years. "My guess is that the audience is reactingto mythology in everything from Superman to Batman to Sin City," Millersaid, noting that each "plays on themes that are really ancient." [...]

[...]

And what about those people who don't want political themes in theircomics and "just want pure escapism," asked Brownstein. "There are anawful lot of people [in mainstream comics] who are giving them justthat," Miller replied. "But I am out to provoke." [...]

[...]

Asked to respond to the controversy over those Danish cartoons andthe angry, violent Muslim response? "The harsh truth is that we'refacing an enemy that keeps telling us what they are and what theywant," declared Miller, adding that people refuse to believe it. "Theyhave made it plain they want to exterminate the Jews, to bring down theWest, to achieve world dominion," Miller warned, likening Islamicextremists to the Nazis in the 1930s.

Miller described the rage over the cartoonists as "a trumped-upstunt," and said radical Muslim leaders are just "looking for somethingto yell about." He concluded, "It's just pathetic. If people can'tstand cartoons about religion, they've got a problem."

Miller said he regards the cartoonist as an "assassin" who firesarrows with rubber suckers on one end. Miller maintained that the dutyof a cartoonist is "to use all of our skills to address, to satirize,to amuse." By doing so, he continued, cartoonists are "getting back totheir roots." He pointed out that all of the major superheroes of the1940s were created by Jews during a time of anti-Semitic persecution:"Superman was a golem." And while he said that he "won't tell JeffSmith that Bone has got to [go on a political] crusade," Millernonetheless issued a call to his fellow comics pros: "Let's revive ourtradition and get back on the job."

[http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6311604.html]

Being the 'conspiracy theorist' that I am, and having cited too many mainstream sources, I really most throw in one other crackpot like me: http://www.davidduke.com/general/the-movie-300-neocon-racial-propaganda-for-war_2381.html

If you're interested in more muscled warriors,  free, and some possibly oiled-up too (more likely wearing underwear over tight suits though), here is a select bibliography: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/5756/JWISHC.HTM


Thu Oct 2, 2008 4:32 am

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According to 'The Road of Cinnabar', as we pointed out in message 4, Julius Evola once planned to write a 'Secret History of the Secret Societies', but this...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Sep 25, 2008
12:20 am

This is of interest: "Golem: Myth, Magic or Machine": http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=52AfWzhaHVs Watching it reminded me of a comic I saw as a kid in which a...
Thulean Imperial Inqu...
sithwalker Offline Send Email
Sep 26, 2008
7:39 pm

This, as well as a number of other themes elaborated by Evola, remind one of comic books, often with astounding resemblance. What's even more astounding, and...
larco_e_laclava Offline Send Email Sep 27, 2008
9:23 pm

With all due respect, I'm not sure what you're saying (English isn't my native language). If you're implying that I was comparing Evola to a comic-book...
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sithwalker Offline Send Email
Sep 28, 2008
1:18 am

In his writings on ancient Rome, J. Evola, probably inspired by de Gobineau's considerations on the rise and fall of ancient civilisations, made a decisive...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Sep 28, 2008
2:00 am

By the way, Frank Miller is also the director of 'Sin City', a blood's bath recyclings all imaginary dregs of Manga and comic books with a sure impact on the...
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charltonroad36 Offline Send Email
Sep 29, 2008
7:03 pm

He's also the creator of the fictional retelling of the Battle of Thermopylae, 300. Do you also find any thing objectionable in this comic/movie? I would doubt...
larco_e_laclava Offline Send Email Sep 30, 2008
11:29 pm

I do wonder, if we'd be (mere) internet-warriors, and you (presumably) not; what'd you be? Since you bring the discussion to this level, larco_e_clava, one...
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sithwalker Offline Send Email
Oct 2, 2008
8:11 pm

Add to that--and the ad hominem is perfectly justified--that one is not in the best position to speak so fiercely, as it would seem, against comics and mangas...
larco_e_laclava Offline Send Email Oct 4, 2008
1:05 am

So what? There is a hundred times more articles that want '300' a movie promoting white supremacy, among other things. Granted, the corrosive Jewish influence...
larco_e_laclava Offline Send Email Oct 4, 2008
1:07 am

Most, if not all, western Medias are Jewish-owned. Art (business) is Jewish-owned. The whole movie industry is Jewish-owned. Just as, in any ancient...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Oct 4, 2008
9:16 pm

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