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Re: [evola_as_he_is] Evola's identification of Typhon with Jehovah

The complete sentence of Evola was:
 
"According to some ancient traditions, Typhon, the entity hostile to the solar God, would have been the father of the Jews, and Jerome, together with several Gnostic authors, considered the Jewish god as a typhonic creature (see T. Fritsch, Handbuch der Judenfrage, Leipzig,1932, page 469). These are references to a demonic spirit of incessant unrest, of obscure contamination, of latent revolt from the inferior elements, that in the Jewish substance operated more resolutely than in the one of other peoples..."
 
When Gnosticism rose, synagogue and church were not yet well separated. In the Gnosticism there are indeed many odd and dubious things, for instance Jaldabaoth, the picturesque peacock-angel, or a legion of demons/archons feeding on human seed when it does not fecundate a womb, and so on.
Typhon being the Greek translation of the Egyptian god Set, and the biblical character Seth or Sheth being important for the Gnostics, it is permitted to superimpose the two words, like also Guénon admitted by noting that Seth means "foundation" but also "turmoil" in Hebrew (the "incessant unrest" quoted by Evola). 
Seth is also present in the legend of the Grail, a must for the Catharism's scholars, mostly thanks to the fantasy of Otto Rahn.
 
 
 
In "Revolt Against the Modern World", Evola refers to unnamed Gnostic
authors theorizing the Hebrew God's descent from Typhon. Would anyone
know what specific Gnostic groups and texts Evola is referring to
here?

Secondly, Gnostic sources would seem to be highly spiritually
dubious. I have yet to come upon a Gnostic sect fully in accord with
the heroic Indo-European world-view. Evola himself, in "The Mystery
of the Grail", acknowledges that Catharism, a virtual rebirth of
ancient Gnosticism in the medieval Christian era, exhibits
degenerated traits, possibly of Southern-Atlantic or pre-Aryan Iberic
origins, emphasizing a generally lunar, escapist, and feminine
ideology. Thus, a Gnostic attack on the concept of Jehovah would seem
to represent a rebellion of the feminine principle against whatever
of the patriarchal principle the Jehovah concept had retained. The
ancient gnostics considered Jehovah in the same category as the Indo-
European Jupiter, i.e. as unjust, bloodthirsty, masculine warlord
gods, to be transcended by a fatalistic, individualist, and pacifist
escapism, by means of the salvific help of the Mother Goddess in the
form of "Sophia".

Of course, defenders of Traditional society know in what context so-
called Gnosticism has been promoted nowadays: in the name of
ideological feminism, egalitarianism, bonobo-like libertinism and
degenerate 'sex-magick'.








Mon Oct 3, 2005 10:43 am

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I don’t know specifically what ‘groups’ Evola was referring to, however I would imagine that the prime example of Gnosticism being associated with Typhon...
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You might enjoy this, on the H B of L (of which Guénon wrote with some ire): http://www.jwmt.org/v1n1/influence.html ...
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We don't know either what Gnostic sects Evola referred to in this respect, both in 'Revolt against the Modern World' and in 'Three Aspects of the Jewish...
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The complete sentence of Evola was: "According to some ancient traditions, Typhon, the entity hostile to the solar God, would have been the father of the Jews,...
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I'm afraid it may just be the case that Evola, Doresse, Tacitus, and Jerome, were all wrong about the relationship between the Jewish God and the God Set...
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A source for the definition by Evola (about the Typhon-Jehovah identification) has been probably also Plutarch, who says that Set, the name of Typhon in...
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Christianity certainly owes a lot to the myth of Osiris as told in Plutarch ('Isis and Osiris', 12-20) and elaborated by Diodorus Siculus ('Library of...
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... Does Evola distinguish this? Regards, K. ... god, ... a ... anyone ... its ... cult ... at ... privilege ... doctrinal ... public ... Egyptian ... Orion ; ...
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He does - in 'Three Aspects of the Jewish Problem'. Please read message 249. Doesn't our 'welcome message' state that it is not worth joining this group if one...
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well that's very informative. I wonder whether you feel that what you say about the perishable nature of Osiris applies equally to Horus? On the one hand,...
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