"Disinformation on the internet"

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  • G. van der Heide
    The more recent broadcasts of this radio show on WO II revisionism proved to be of interest. Carolyn discusses six major disinfo and conspiracy specialists
    Message 1 of 21 , Mar 1, 2011
      The more recent broadcasts of this radio show on WO II revisionism proved to be of interest. 

      "Carolyn discusses six major disinfo and conspiracy specialists who love to confuse Globalism with “the Nazis:”
      Alex Jones: V Campaign as resistance against “Nazi” NWO;
      Jim Marrs: How America became the Fourth Reich;
      Webster Tarpley: Ties together Britain, the US & “the Nazis;”
      David Icke: Hitler was a Rothschild and a Reptilian;
      Henry Makow: Hitler was a Rothschild, a British Agent and a Zionist;
      Wayne Madsen: The Drew Pearson of the 21st Century."



    • Evola
      J. Evola, in the aftermath of WW2, deplored the lack of a decent rightist historiography likely to oppose and to debunk the views of Marxist historiography.
      Message 2 of 21 , Mar 2, 2011
        J. Evola, in the aftermath of WW2, deplored the lack of a decent rightist historiography likely to oppose and to debunk the views of Marxist historiography. The situation has not really changed. The domination of historical materialism is more than ever undisputed, not simply because it is the sole historical worldview allowed on media, as a dialectic and propagandistic counterpart to the current social-political doxa, but also, in part, because an actual rightist historiography is still lacking. Carolyn Yeager's successful efforts at looking at how history is written by some of the main representatives of the conspiracy theory, and at unearthing and cracking their background, are most welcome.

        It is in the nature of political organisations or parties to be infiltrated, and leftists, no matter their brand, their race, their ethny or their religion, are experts at infiltration.
        http://www.subvertednation.net/kikes-kkk-and-the-racial-divide/

        The first part (available at http://reasonradionetwork.com/downloads/thh/VoR_The_Heretics_Hour_20110131.mp3) turns out to be just as worth listening to ; in particularly, the thesis, which happens to be also spread by M. Weber of the Institute for Historical Review, of the collusion between Zionism and National-Socialism is debunked to a large extent, to an extent which could even be furthered. It is not, as made clear in the introduction, about misinformation, but about disinformation, a positive, legitimate and operative distinction between two terms to which overinformation would need to be added.



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        --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "G. van der Heide" <vnvsmvndvs@...> wrote:
        >
        > The more recent broadcasts of this radio show on WO II revisionism proved to
        > be of interest.
        >
        > "Carolyn discusses six major disinfo and conspiracy specialists who love to
        > confuse Globalism with "the Nazis:"
        > Alex Jones: V Campaign as resistance against "Nazi" NWO;
        > Jim Marrs: How America became the Fourth Reich;
        > Webster Tarpley: Ties together Britain, the US & "the Nazis;"
        > David Icke: Hitler was a Rothschild and a Reptilian;
        > Henry Makow: Hitler was a Rothschild, a British Agent and a Zionist;
        > Wayne Madsen: The Drew Pearson of the 21st Century."
        > http://reasonradionetwork.com/20110207/the-heretics-hour-disinformation-on-the-internet-part-two
        >
      • rouesolaire
        About the allusion which is made about the Ku Klux Klan at http://elementsdeducationraciale.wordpress.com/2013/05/10/canaille-du-haut-racaille-du-bas/ , there
        Message 3 of 21 , Aug 11, 2013
          About the allusion which is made about the Ku Klux Klan at http://elementsdeducationraciale.wordpress.com/2013/05/10/canaille-du-haut-racaille-du-bas/ , there are some relevant elements on the connection between the Ku Klux Klan and Freemasonry at http://mysterybabylon-watch.blogspot.fr/2011/09/video-hidden-hands-behind-albert-pikes.html (the video is no longer relevant after 11:10).
          The skull and bones, the symbol of piracy, is found as well in the "Knights of the Golden Circle" as in the "Ku Klux Klan" (1) (which, as explained in the video, itself comes from the previous secret society), the "Black Legion" and the "Skull and Bones" secret society (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/1917.jpg) and seems to have its origin in the Knights Templar (8:47). Notice that the "Knights of the Golden Circle" main symbol (5:07) drifts from the Templar cross.
          The members of the "Black Legion" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Legion_%28political_movement%29), a group that splintered from the Ku Klux Klan, wear a pirate hat with a uniform marked by a skull and bones. Here is a freemason uniform almost identical to their: http://adap2k.blogspot.fr/2009/06/antique-masonic-skull-and-bones-mask.html .
          Here is the logo of the "Knights of Pythias", an US secret society related to Freemasonry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Knightsofpythias.png . Here is a symbol of the "Ku Klux Klan": http://tightrope.cc/catalog/images/KKK-triangle-flag.jpg , http://www.bcrevolution.ca/images/kkk_triangles.jpg , http://www.independent.co.uk/migration_catalog/article5127811.ece/ALTERNATES/w620/klan_outfit.jpeg.
          The original symbol of the Ku Klux Klan was not the Christian cross but the… Islamic Star and Crescent Moon, composed by two symbols well known in Freemasonry, Freemasonry which certainly has itself an Islamic origin. The Islamic Star and Crescent Moon is also part of the logo of the US Masonic order named "Shriners" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shriners.png). That's not all, the original Ku Klux Klan membership manual is called the… K(L)ORAN (!): http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/
          Notice the three golden circles on the wall of this room where a meeting whose most attendants are KKK members takes place: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/south_carolina_2006.jpg , http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/sc5.jpg .
          Now, look at these Masonic objects: http://imageshack.us/a/img543/5498/eips.jpg , http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/OddFellowMatchsafe2-2.jpg .

          Incidentally, K+K+K = 11+11+11 = 33.

          However, not everything is negative and some Ku Klux Klan's snapshots can be beauties: http://www.dodaj.rs/f/1E/UI/39pSDIip/the-klansmen--johnny-reb.png .

          (1) http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YttMT-NfXsk/TmpFrXp6CcI/AAAAAAAAAZs/X340-P0oxlQ/s1600/Ku+Klux+Klan+1.JPG http://freeamericanscommunity.com/kkkstore/product_info.php?products_id=54
          http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/103977.jpg



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          --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" <evola_as_he_is@...> wrote:
          >
          > J. Evola, in the aftermath of WW2, deplored the lack of a decent rightist historiography likely to oppose and to debunk the views of Marxist historiography. The situation has not really changed. The domination of historical materialism is more than ever undisputed, not simply because it is the sole historical worldview allowed on media, as a dialectic and propagandistic counterpart to the current social-political doxa, but also, in part, because an actual rightist historiography is still lacking. Carolyn Yeager's successful efforts at looking at how history is written by some of the main representatives of the conspiracy theory, and at unearthing and cracking their background, are most welcome.
          >
          > It is in the nature of political organisations or parties to be infiltrated, and leftists, no matter their brand, their race, their ethny or their religion, are experts at infiltration.
          > http://www.subvertednation.net/kikes-kkk-and-the-racial-divide/
          >
          > The first part (available at http://reasonradionetwork.com/downloads/thh/VoR_The_Heretics_Hour_20110131.mp3) turns out to be just as worth listening to ; in particularly, the thesis, which happens to be also spread by M. Weber of the Institute for Historical Review, of the collusion between Zionism and National-Socialism is debunked to a large extent, to an extent which could even be furthered. It is not, as made clear in the introduction, about misinformation, but about disinformation, a positive, legitimate and operative distinction between two terms to which overinformation would need to be added.
          >
          >
          >
          > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "G. van der Heide" <vnvsmvndvs@> wrote:
          > >
          > > The more recent broadcasts of this radio show on WO II revisionism proved to
          > > be of interest.
          > >
          > > "Carolyn discusses six major disinfo and conspiracy specialists who love to
          > > confuse Globalism with "the Nazis:"
          > > Alex Jones: V Campaign as resistance against "Nazi" NWO;
          > > Jim Marrs: How America became the Fourth Reich;
          > > Webster Tarpley: Ties together Britain, the US & "the Nazis;"
          > > David Icke: Hitler was a Rothschild and a Reptilian;
          > > Henry Makow: Hitler was a Rothschild, a British Agent and a Zionist;
          > > Wayne Madsen: The Drew Pearson of the 21st Century."
          > > http://reasonradionetwork.com/20110207/the-heretics-hour-disinformation-on-the-internet-part-two
          > >
          >
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        • G. van der Heide
          I thought it to be of minor importance, but I was reminded of the pirate logo of the so-called White Aryan Resistance
          Message 4 of 21 , Aug 11, 2013
            I thought it to be of minor importance, but I was reminded of the pirate logo of the so-called "White Aryan Resistance" (http://www.resist.com/updates/2009/APR_09/TT-WAR.jpg). It reads on the Wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Aryan_Resistance that it's leader was a former member of the K.K.K.

            Anyway, it lingers.

            Another associative thought, since the the K.K.K. phenomenon has an "Anglo-Saxon" ring to it: the symbolism of the Southern Cross, as seen in the flags of Australia and New Zealand among others, follows in the tradition of most "new world" colonies (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Southern_cross_appearing_on_a_number_of_flags.PNG, http://eurekasydney.com/flag.html).


            To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
            From: rouesolaire@...
            Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 14:27:53 +0000
            Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: "Disinformation on the internet"

             
            About the allusion which is made about the Ku Klux Klan at http://elementsdeducationraciale.wordpress.com/2013/05/10/canaille-du-haut-racaille-du-bas/ , there are some relevant elements on the connection between the Ku Klux Klan and Freemasonry at http://mysterybabylon-watch.blogspot.fr/2011/09/video-hidden-hands-behind-albert-pikes.html (the video is no longer relevant after 11:10).
            The skull and bones, the symbol of piracy, is found as well in the "Knights of the Golden Circle" as in the "Ku Klux Klan" (1) (which, as explained in the video, itself comes from the previous secret society), the "Black Legion" and the "Skull and Bones" secret society (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/1917.jpg) and seems to have its origin in the Knights Templar (8:47). Notice that the "Knights of the Golden Circle" main symbol (5:07) drifts from the Templar cross.
            The members of the "Black Legion" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Legion_%28political_movement%29), a group that splintered from the Ku Klux Klan, wear a pirate hat with a uniform marked by a skull and bones. Here is a freemason uniform almost identical to their: http://adap2k.blogspot.fr/2009/06/antique-masonic-skull-and-bones-mask.html .
            Here is the logo of the "Knights of Pythias", an US secret society related to Freemasonry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Knightsofpythias.png . Here is a symbol of the "Ku Klux Klan": http://tightrope.cc/catalog/images/KKK-triangle-flag.jpg , http://www.bcrevolution.ca/images/kkk_triangles.jpg , http://www.independent.co.uk/migration_catalog/article5127811.ece/ALTERNATES/w620/klan_outfit.jpeg.
            The original symbol of the Ku Klux Klan was not the Christian cross but the… Islamic Star and Crescent Moon, composed by two symbols well known in Freemasonry, Freemasonry which certainly has itself an Islamic origin. The Islamic Star and Crescent Moon is also part of the logo of the US Masonic order named "Shriners" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shriners.png). That's not all, the original Ku Klux Klan membership manual is called the… K(L)ORAN (!): http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/
            Notice the three golden circles on the wall of this room where a meeting whose most attendants are KKK members takes place: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/south_carolina_2006.jpg , http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/sc5.jpg .
            Now, look at these Masonic objects: http://imageshack.us/a/img543/5498/eips.jpg , http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/OddFellowMatchsafe2-2.jpg .

            Incidentally, K+K+K = 11+11+11 = 33.

            However, not everything is negative and some Ku Klux Klan's snapshots can be beauties: http://www.dodaj.rs/f/1E/UI/39pSDIip/the-klansmen--johnny-reb.png .

            (1) http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YttMT-NfXsk/TmpFrXp6CcI/AAAAAAAAAZs/X340-P0oxlQ/s1600/Ku+Klux+Klan+1.JPG http://freeamericanscommunity.com/kkkstore/product_info.php?products_id=54
            http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/103977.jpg

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            --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" <evola_as_he_is@...> wrote:
            >
            > J. Evola, in the aftermath of WW2, deplored the lack of a decent rightist historiography likely to oppose and to debunk the views of Marxist historiography. The situation has not really changed. The domination of historical materialism is more than ever undisputed, not simply because it is the sole historical worldview allowed on media, as a dialectic and propagandistic counterpart to the current social-political doxa, but also, in part, because an actual rightist historiography is still lacking. Carolyn Yeager's successful efforts at looking at how history is written by some of the main representatives of the conspiracy theory, and at unearthing and cracking their background, are most welcome.
            >
            > It is in the nature of political organisations or parties to be infiltrated, and leftists, no matter their brand, their race, their ethny or their religion, are experts at infiltration.
            > http://www.subvertednation.net/kikes-kkk-and-the-racial-divide/
            >
            > The first part (available at http://reasonradionetwork.com/downloads/thh/VoR_The_Heretics_Hour_20110131.mp3) turns out to be just as worth listening to ; in particularly, the thesis, which happens to be also spread by M. Weber of the Institute for Historical Review, of the collusion between Zionism and National-Socialism is debunked to a large extent, to an extent which could even be furthered. It is not, as made clear in the introduction, about misinformation, but about disinformation, a positive, legitimate and operative distinction between two terms to which overinformation would need to be added.
            >
            >
            >
            > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "G. van der Heide" <vnvsmvndvs@> wrote:
            > >
            > > The more recent broadcasts of this radio show on WO II revisionism proved to
            > > be of interest.
            > >
            > > "Carolyn discusses six major disinfo and conspiracy specialists who love to
            > > confuse Globalism with "the Nazis:"
            > > Alex Jones: V Campaign as resistance against "Nazi" NWO;
            > > Jim Marrs: How America became the Fourth Reich;
            > > Webster Tarpley: Ties together Britain, the US & "the Nazis;"
            > > David Icke: Hitler was a Rothschild and a Reptilian;
            > > Henry Makow: Hitler was a Rothschild, a British Agent and a Zionist;
            > > Wayne Madsen: The Drew Pearson of the 21st Century."
            > > http://reasonradionetwork.com/20110207/the-heretics-hour-disinformation-on-the-internet-part-two
            > >
            >


          • rouesolaire
            Thank you for these additions and these explanations. It seems that the administrator of http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/ , a so-called white nationalist
            Message 5 of 21 , Aug 15, 2013
              Thank you for these additions and these explanations.

              It seems that the administrator of http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/ , a
              so-called "white nationalist" whose pseudonym is nothing less than
              "baaltanit", has an "eye" on this forum. It also seems that he didn't
              like my message because he has deleted his article:
              http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/ .
              Unfortunately for him, the webpage is still available in the google's
              cache
              (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:LuK-jUB5_O4J:wnthi\
              nktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/+http://wnthinktank.wo\
              rdpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/&cd=1&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=fr) and
              a copy has been made at http://www.sendspace.com/file/lkwnzi .


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              --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "G. van der Heide" wrote:
              >
              > I thought it to be of minor importance, but I was reminded of the
              pirate logo of the so-called "White Aryan Resistance"
              (http://www.resist.com/updates/2009/APR_09/TT-WAR.jpg). It reads on the
              Wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Aryan_Resistance that
              it's leader was a former member of the K.K.K.
              >
              > Anyway, it lingers.
              >
              > Another associative thought, since the the K.K.K. phenomenon has an
              "Anglo-Saxon" ring to it: the symbolism of the Southern Cross, as seen
              in the flags of Australia and New Zealand among others, follows in the
              tradition of most "new world" colonies
              (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Southern_cross_appearing_on_a_nu\
              mber_of_flags.PNG, http://eurekasydney.com/flag.html).
              >
              > To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
              > From: rouesolaire@...
              > Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 14:27:53 +0000
              > Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: "Disinformation on the internet"
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              > About the allusion which is made about the Ku Klux Klan at
              http://elementsdeducationraciale.wordpress.com/2013/05/10/canaille-du-ha\
              ut-racaille-du-bas/ , there are some relevant elements on the connection
              between the Ku Klux Klan and Freemasonry at
              http://mysterybabylon-watch.blogspot.fr/2011/09/video-hidden-hands-behin\
              d-albert-pikes.html (the video is no longer relevant after 11:10).
              >
              > The skull and bones, the symbol of piracy, is found as well in the
              "Knights of the Golden Circle" as in the "Ku Klux Klan" (1) (which, as
              explained in the video, itself comes from the previous secret society),
              the "Black Legion" and the "Skull and Bones" secret society
              (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/1917.jpg)
              and seems to have its origin in the Knights Templar (8:47). Notice that
              the "Knights of the Golden Circle" main symbol (5:07) drifts from the
              Templar cross.
              >
              > The members of the "Black Legion"
              (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Legion_%28political_movement%29), a
              group that splintered from the Ku Klux Klan, wear a pirate hat with a
              uniform marked by a skull and bones. Here is a freemason uniform almost
              identical to their:
              http://adap2k.blogspot.fr/2009/06/antique-masonic-skull-and-bones-mask.h\
              tml .
              >
              > Here is the logo of the "Knights of Pythias", an US secret society
              related to Freemasonry:
              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Knightsofpythias.png . Here is a
              symbol of the "Ku Klux Klan":
              http://tightrope.cc/catalog/images/KKK-triangle-flag.jpg ,
              http://www.bcrevolution.ca/images/kkk_triangles.jpg ,
              http://www.independent.co.uk/migration_catalog/article5127811.ece/ALTERN\
              ATES/w620/klan_outfit.jpeg.
              >
              > The original symbol of the Ku Klux Klan was not the Christian cross
              but the… Islamic Star and Crescent Moon, composed by two symbols
              well known in Freemasonry, Freemasonry which certainly has itself an
              Islamic origin. The Islamic Star and Crescent Moon is also part of the
              logo of the US Masonic order named "Shriners"
              (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shriners.png). That's not all, the
              original Ku Klux Klan membership manual is called the… K(L)ORAN (!):
              http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/
              >
              > Notice the three golden circles on the wall of this room where a
              meeting whose most attendants are KKK members takes place:
              http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/south_caroli\
              na_2006.jpg ,
              http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/sc5.jpg .
              >
              > Now, look at these Masonic objects:
              http://imageshack.us/a/img543/5498/eips.jpg ,
              http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/OddFellowMat\
              chsafe2-2.jpg .
              >
              >
              >
              > Incidentally, K+K+K = 11+11+11 = 33.
              >
              >
              >
              > However, not everything is negative and some Ku Klux Klan's snapshots
              can be beauties:
              http://www.dodaj.rs/f/1E/UI/39pSDIip/the-klansmen--johnny-reb.png .
              >
              >
              >
              > (1)
              http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YttMT-NfXsk/TmpFrXp6CcI/AAAAAAAAAZs/X340-P0oxl\
              Q/s1600/Ku+Klux+Klan+1.JPG
              http://freeamericanscommunity.com/kkkstore/product_info.php?products_id=\
              54
              >
              > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/103977.jpg
              >
              >
              >
              > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" evola_as_he_is@ wrote:
              >
              > >
              >
              > > J. Evola, in the aftermath of WW2, deplored the lack of a decent
              rightist historiography likely to oppose and to debunk the views of
              Marxist historiography. The situation has not really changed. The
              domination of historical materialism is more than ever undisputed, not
              simply because it is the sole historical worldview allowed on media, as
              a dialectic and propagandistic counterpart to the current
              social-political doxa, but also, in part, because an actual rightist
              historiography is still lacking. Carolyn Yeager's successful efforts at
              looking at how history is written by some of the main representatives of
              the conspiracy theory, and at unearthing and cracking their background,
              are most welcome.
              >
              > >
              >
              > > It is in the nature of political organisations or parties to be
              infiltrated, and leftists, no matter their brand, their race, their
              ethny or their religion, are experts at infiltration.
              >
              > > http://www.subvertednation.net/kikes-kkk-and-the-racial-divide/
              >
              > >
              >
              > > The first part (available at
              http://reasonradionetwork.com/downloads/thh/VoR_The_Heretics_Hour_201101\
              31.mp3) turns out to be just as worth listening to ; in particularly,
              the thesis, which happens to be also spread by M. Weber of the Institute
              for Historical Review, of the collusion between Zionism and
              National-Socialism is debunked to a large extent, to an extent which
              could even be furthered. It is not, as made clear in the introduction,
              about misinformation, but about disinformation, a positive, legitimate
              and operative distinction between two terms to which overinformation
              would need to be added.
              >
              > >
              >
              > >
              >
              > >
              >
              > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "G. van der Heide" wrote:
              >
              > > >
              >
              > > > The more recent broadcasts of this radio show on WO II revisionism
              proved to
              >
              > > > be of interest.
              >
              > > >
              >
              > > > "Carolyn discusses six major disinfo and conspiracy specialists
              who love to
              >
              > > > confuse Globalism with "the Nazis:"
              >
              > > > Alex Jones: V Campaign as resistance against "Nazi" NWO;
              >
              > > > Jim Marrs: How America became the Fourth Reich;
              >
              > > > Webster Tarpley: Ties together Britain, the US & "the Nazis;"
              >
              > > > David Icke: Hitler was a Rothschild and a Reptilian;
              >
              > > > Henry Makow: Hitler was a Rothschild, a British Agent and a
              Zionist;
              >
              > > > Wayne Madsen: The Drew Pearson of the 21st Century."
              >
              > > >
              http://reasonradionetwork.com/20110207/the-heretics-hour-disinformation-\
              on-the-internet-part-two
              >
              > > >
              >
              > >
              >
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            • Evola
              As a coincidence, the comprehensive study (in French) on the United States, whose publication at http://elementsdeducationraciale.wordpress.com/ we announced a
              Message 6 of 21 , Aug 15, 2013
                As a coincidence, the comprehensive study (in French) on the United States, whose publication at http://elementsdeducationraciale.wordpress.com/ we announced a few weeks ago, is almost ready.

                We remain skeptical about the views generally expressed by `White-Nationalists' (some of them hardly need to take on a Semitic pseudonym to express their inner race) on the KKK. It's not really that "Simon Baruch, the former Quartermaster-General of the Confederate Army, and father of Bernard Baruch, was a post-Civil War member of the KKK." (Jews in America today, p. 58) One of the real questions is to know why some Southerners became fiercely opposed to the emancipation of Blacks after the Secession War, when neither the emancipation of Blacks before the war, nor the fact that there were Black slave-owners (see Black Slave-owners : Free Black Slave Masters in South Carolina, 1790-1860) seemed to bother them.

                More generally, we remain skeptical about the `aristocratic' character, much-vaunted by J. Evola and others, of Southerners, for reasons we have already put forward as well as in the light of "the remarkable breadth of Southern Jewry's participation in the war and the strength of Jewish commitment to the Confederate cause." (The Jewish Confederates, p. 229), and of other studies, like Jews and the Civil War: A Reader (see "Jewish Confederates"), and Myth and Southern History: The Old South, Vol. 1 (see chapter 6)

                P.s. : the link - that to the cache - is not working.


                Show message history
                --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "rouesolaire" <rouesolaire@...> wrote:
                >
                > Thank you for these additions and these explanations.
                >
                > It seems that the administrator of http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/ , a
                > so-called "white nationalist" whose pseudonym is nothing less than
                > "baaltanit", has an "eye" on this forum. It also seems that he didn't
                > like my message because he has deleted his article:
                > http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/ .
                > Unfortunately for him, the webpage is still available in the google's
                > cache
                > (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:LuK-jUB5_O4J:wnthi\
                > nktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/+http://wnthinktank.wo\
                > rdpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/&cd=1&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=fr) and
                > a copy has been made at http://www.sendspace.com/file/lkwnzi .
                >
                >
                > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "G. van der Heide" wrote:
                > >
                > > I thought it to be of minor importance, but I was reminded of the
                > pirate logo of the so-called "White Aryan Resistance"
                > (http://www.resist.com/updates/2009/APR_09/TT-WAR.jpg). It reads on the
                > Wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Aryan_Resistance that
                > it's leader was a former member of the K.K.K.
                > >
                > > Anyway, it lingers.
                > >
                > > Another associative thought, since the the K.K.K. phenomenon has an
                > "Anglo-Saxon" ring to it: the symbolism of the Southern Cross, as seen
                > in the flags of Australia and New Zealand among others, follows in the
                > tradition of most "new world" colonies
                > (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Southern_cross_appearing_on_a_nu\
                > mber_of_flags.PNG, http://eurekasydney.com/flag.html).
                > >
                > > To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                > > From: rouesolaire@
                > > Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 14:27:53 +0000
                > > Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: "Disinformation on the internet"
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > > About the allusion which is made about the Ku Klux Klan at
                > http://elementsdeducationraciale.wordpress.com/2013/05/10/canaille-du-ha\
                > ut-racaille-du-bas/ , there are some relevant elements on the connection
                > between the Ku Klux Klan and Freemasonry at
                > http://mysterybabylon-watch.blogspot.fr/2011/09/video-hidden-hands-behin\
                > d-albert-pikes.html (the video is no longer relevant after 11:10).
                > >
                > > The skull and bones, the symbol of piracy, is found as well in the
                > "Knights of the Golden Circle" as in the "Ku Klux Klan" (1) (which, as
                > explained in the video, itself comes from the previous secret society),
                > the "Black Legion" and the "Skull and Bones" secret society
                > (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/1917.jpg)
                > and seems to have its origin in the Knights Templar (8:47). Notice that
                > the "Knights of the Golden Circle" main symbol (5:07) drifts from the
                > Templar cross.
                > >
                > > The members of the "Black Legion"
                > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Legion_%28political_movement%29), a
                > group that splintered from the Ku Klux Klan, wear a pirate hat with a
                > uniform marked by a skull and bones. Here is a freemason uniform almost
                > identical to their:
                > http://adap2k.blogspot.fr/2009/06/antique-masonic-skull-and-bones-mask.h\
                > tml .
                > >
                > > Here is the logo of the "Knights of Pythias", an US secret society
                > related to Freemasonry:
                > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Knightsofpythias.png . Here is a
                > symbol of the "Ku Klux Klan":
                > http://tightrope.cc/catalog/images/KKK-triangle-flag.jpg ,
                > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/images/kkk_triangles.jpg ,
                > http://www.independent.co.uk/migration_catalog/article5127811.ece/ALTERN\
                > ATES/w620/klan_outfit.jpeg.
                > >
                > > The original symbol of the Ku Klux Klan was not the Christian cross
                > but the… Islamic Star and Crescent Moon, composed by two symbols
                > well known in Freemasonry, Freemasonry which certainly has itself an
                > Islamic origin. The Islamic Star and Crescent Moon is also part of the
                > logo of the US Masonic order named "Shriners"
                > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shriners.png). That's not all, the
                > original Ku Klux Klan membership manual is called the… K(L)ORAN (!):
                > http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/
                > >
                > > Notice the three golden circles on the wall of this room where a
                > meeting whose most attendants are KKK members takes place:
                > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/south_caroli\
                > na_2006.jpg ,
                > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/sc5.jpg .
                > >
                > > Now, look at these Masonic objects:
                > http://imageshack.us/a/img543/5498/eips.jpg ,
                > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/OddFellowMat\
                > chsafe2-2.jpg .
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > > Incidentally, K+K+K = 11+11+11 = 33.
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > > However, not everything is negative and some Ku Klux Klan's snapshots
                > can be beauties:
                > http://www.dodaj.rs/f/1E/UI/39pSDIip/the-klansmen--johnny-reb.png .
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > > (1)
                > http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YttMT-NfXsk/TmpFrXp6CcI/AAAAAAAAAZs/X340-P0oxl\
                > Q/s1600/Ku+Klux+Klan+1.JPG
                > http://freeamericanscommunity.com/kkkstore/product_info.php?products_id=\
                > 54
                > >
                > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/103977.jpg
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" evola_as_he_is@ wrote:
                > >
                > > >
                > >
                > > > J. Evola, in the aftermath of WW2, deplored the lack of a decent
                > rightist historiography likely to oppose and to debunk the views of
                > Marxist historiography. The situation has not really changed. The
                > domination of historical materialism is more than ever undisputed, not
                > simply because it is the sole historical worldview allowed on media, as
                > a dialectic and propagandistic counterpart to the current
                > social-political doxa, but also, in part, because an actual rightist
                > historiography is still lacking. Carolyn Yeager's successful efforts at
                > looking at how history is written by some of the main representatives of
                > the conspiracy theory, and at unearthing and cracking their background,
                > are most welcome.
                > >
                > > >
                > >
                > > > It is in the nature of political organisations or parties to be
                > infiltrated, and leftists, no matter their brand, their race, their
                > ethny or their religion, are experts at infiltration.
                > >
                > > > http://www.subvertednation.net/kikes-kkk-and-the-racial-divide/
                > >
                > > >
                > >
                > > > The first part (available at
                > http://reasonradionetwork.com/downloads/thh/VoR_The_Heretics_Hour_201101\
                > 31.mp3) turns out to be just as worth listening to ; in particularly,
                > the thesis, which happens to be also spread by M. Weber of the Institute
                > for Historical Review, of the collusion between Zionism and
                > National-Socialism is debunked to a large extent, to an extent which
                > could even be furthered. It is not, as made clear in the introduction,
                > about misinformation, but about disinformation, a positive, legitimate
                > and operative distinction between two terms to which overinformation
                > would need to be added.
                > >
                > > >
                > >
                > > >
                > >
                > > >
                > >
                > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "G. van der Heide" wrote:
                > >
                > > > >
                > >
                > > > > The more recent broadcasts of this radio show on WO II revisionism
                > proved to
                > >
                > > > > be of interest.
                > >
                > > > >
                > >
                > > > > "Carolyn discusses six major disinfo and conspiracy specialists
                > who love to
                > >
                > > > > confuse Globalism with "the Nazis:"
                > >
                > > > > Alex Jones: V Campaign as resistance against "Nazi" NWO;
                > >
                > > > > Jim Marrs: How America became the Fourth Reich;
                > >
                > > > > Webster Tarpley: Ties together Britain, the US & "the Nazis;"
                > >
                > > > > David Icke: Hitler was a Rothschild and a Reptilian;
                > >
                > > > > Henry Makow: Hitler was a Rothschild, a British Agent and a
                > Zionist;
                > >
                > > > > Wayne Madsen: The Drew Pearson of the 21st Century."
                > >
                > > > >
                > http://reasonradionetwork.com/20110207/the-heretics-hour-disinformation-\
                > on-the-internet-part-two
                > >
                > > > >
                > >
                > > >
                > >
                >
              • rouesolaire
                Yahoo! Groups adds a backslash at the end of each line when a link is longer than one line. So, when copy/pasted, the link contains at least one
                Message 7 of 21 , Aug 15, 2013
                  "Yahoo! Groups" adds a backslash "\" at the end of each line when a link is longer than one line. So, when copy/pasted, the link contains at least one backslash "\" which must be removed manually. Many links in previous messages have this/these backslash(s) but can be directly consulted from the quotation made in vnvsmvndvs's message.

                  There were some "emancipated" Blacks before the Secession War and Black slave-owners but it was still a big business for the White Southerners. Moreover, if shows that for them slavery was only a business and that they didn't really care about race. After the Secession War, "The Knights of the Golden Circle" wanted this business back and bigger if possible; moreover, as in the USA money equals (material) power, it would probably have empowered them a lot. It is possible that the KKK adopted a strong anti-Black behavior to serve as an alibi and to mask the previous facts. In addition, a lot of people have a sentimental and biased view of what the KKK was due to a mystification which started with David Griffith's movie "The Birth of a Nation" ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEznh2JZvrI - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDiQWsENgnk ).


                  Show message history
                  --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" <evola_as_he_is@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > As a coincidence, the comprehensive study (in French) on the United States, whose publication at http://elementsdeducationraciale.wordpress.com/ we announced a few weeks ago, is almost ready.
                  >
                  > We remain skeptical about the views generally expressed by `White-Nationalists' (some of them hardly need to take on a Semitic pseudonym to express their inner race) on the KKK. It's not really that "Simon Baruch, the former Quartermaster-General of the Confederate Army, and father of Bernard Baruch, was a post-Civil War member of the KKK." (Jews in America today, p. 58) One of the real questions is to know why some Southerners became fiercely opposed to the emancipation of Blacks after the Secession War, when neither the emancipation of Blacks before the war, nor the fact that there were Black slave-owners (see Black Slave-owners : Free Black Slave Masters in South Carolina, 1790-1860) seemed to bother them.
                  >
                  > More generally, we remain skeptical about the `aristocratic' character, much-vaunted by J. Evola and others, of Southerners, for reasons we have already put forward as well as in the light of "the remarkable breadth of Southern Jewry's participation in the war and the strength of Jewish commitment to the Confederate cause." (The Jewish Confederates, p. 229), and of other studies, like Jews and the Civil War: A Reader (see "Jewish Confederates"), and Myth and Southern History: The Old South, Vol. 1 (see chapter 6)
                  >
                  > P.s. : the link - that to the cache - is not working.
                  >
                  >
                  > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "rouesolaire" <rouesolaire@> wrote:
                  > >
                  > > Thank you for these additions and these explanations.
                  > >
                  > > It seems that the administrator of http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/ , a
                  > > so-called "white nationalist" whose pseudonym is nothing less than
                  > > "baaltanit", has an "eye" on this forum. It also seems that he didn't
                  > > like my message because he has deleted his article:
                  > > http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/ .
                  > > Unfortunately for him, the webpage is still available in the google's
                  > > cache
                  > > (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:LuK-jUB5_O4J:wnthi\
                  > > nktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/+http://wnthinktank.wo\
                  > > rdpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/&cd=1&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=fr) and
                  > > a copy has been made at http://www.sendspace.com/file/lkwnzi .
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "G. van der Heide" wrote:
                  > > >
                  > > > I thought it to be of minor importance, but I was reminded of the
                  > > pirate logo of the so-called "White Aryan Resistance"
                  > > (http://www.resist.com/updates/2009/APR_09/TT-WAR.jpg). It reads on the
                  > > Wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Aryan_Resistance that
                  > > it's leader was a former member of the K.K.K.
                  > > >
                  > > > Anyway, it lingers.
                  > > >
                  > > > Another associative thought, since the the K.K.K. phenomenon has an
                  > > "Anglo-Saxon" ring to it: the symbolism of the Southern Cross, as seen
                  > > in the flags of Australia and New Zealand among others, follows in the
                  > > tradition of most "new world" colonies
                  > > (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Southern_cross_appearing_on_a_nu\
                  > > mber_of_flags.PNG, http://eurekasydney.com/flag.html).
                  > > >
                  > > > To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                  > > > From: rouesolaire@
                  > > > Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 14:27:53 +0000
                  > > > Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: "Disinformation on the internet"
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > > About the allusion which is made about the Ku Klux Klan at
                  > > http://elementsdeducationraciale.wordpress.com/2013/05/10/canaille-du-ha\
                  > > ut-racaille-du-bas/ , there are some relevant elements on the connection
                  > > between the Ku Klux Klan and Freemasonry at
                  > > http://mysterybabylon-watch.blogspot.fr/2011/09/video-hidden-hands-behin\
                  > > d-albert-pikes.html (the video is no longer relevant after 11:10).
                  > > >
                  > > > The skull and bones, the symbol of piracy, is found as well in the
                  > > "Knights of the Golden Circle" as in the "Ku Klux Klan" (1) (which, as
                  > > explained in the video, itself comes from the previous secret society),
                  > > the "Black Legion" and the "Skull and Bones" secret society
                  > > (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/1917.jpg)
                  > > and seems to have its origin in the Knights Templar (8:47). Notice that
                  > > the "Knights of the Golden Circle" main symbol (5:07) drifts from the
                  > > Templar cross.
                  > > >
                  > > > The members of the "Black Legion"
                  > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Legion_%28political_movement%29), a
                  > > group that splintered from the Ku Klux Klan, wear a pirate hat with a
                  > > uniform marked by a skull and bones. Here is a freemason uniform almost
                  > > identical to their:
                  > > http://adap2k.blogspot.fr/2009/06/antique-masonic-skull-and-bones-mask.h\
                  > > tml .
                  > > >
                  > > > Here is the logo of the "Knights of Pythias", an US secret society
                  > > related to Freemasonry:
                  > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Knightsofpythias.png . Here is a
                  > > symbol of the "Ku Klux Klan":
                  > > http://tightrope.cc/catalog/images/KKK-triangle-flag.jpg ,
                  > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/images/kkk_triangles.jpg ,
                  > > http://www.independent.co.uk/migration_catalog/article5127811.ece/ALTERN\
                  > > ATES/w620/klan_outfit.jpeg.
                  > > >
                  > > > The original symbol of the Ku Klux Klan was not the Christian cross
                  > > but the… Islamic Star and Crescent Moon, composed by two symbols
                  > > well known in Freemasonry, Freemasonry which certainly has itself an
                  > > Islamic origin. The Islamic Star and Crescent Moon is also part of the
                  > > logo of the US Masonic order named "Shriners"
                  > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shriners.png). That's not all, the
                  > > original Ku Klux Klan membership manual is called the… K(L)ORAN (!):
                  > > http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/
                  > > >
                  > > > Notice the three golden circles on the wall of this room where a
                  > > meeting whose most attendants are KKK members takes place:
                  > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/south_caroli\
                  > > na_2006.jpg ,
                  > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/sc5.jpg .
                  > > >
                  > > > Now, look at these Masonic objects:
                  > > http://imageshack.us/a/img543/5498/eips.jpg ,
                  > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/OddFellowMat\
                  > > chsafe2-2.jpg .
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > > Incidentally, K+K+K = 11+11+11 = 33.
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > > However, not everything is negative and some Ku Klux Klan's snapshots
                  > > can be beauties:
                  > > http://www.dodaj.rs/f/1E/UI/39pSDIip/the-klansmen--johnny-reb.png .
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > > (1)
                  > > http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YttMT-NfXsk/TmpFrXp6CcI/AAAAAAAAAZs/X340-P0oxl\
                  > > Q/s1600/Ku+Klux+Klan+1.JPG
                  > > http://freeamericanscommunity.com/kkkstore/product_info.php?products_id=\
                  > > 54
                  > > >
                  > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/103977.jpg
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" evola_as_he_is@ wrote:
                  > > >
                  > > > >
                  > > >
                  > > > > J. Evola, in the aftermath of WW2, deplored the lack of a decent
                  > > rightist historiography likely to oppose and to debunk the views of
                  > > Marxist historiography. The situation has not really changed. The
                  > > domination of historical materialism is more than ever undisputed, not
                  > > simply because it is the sole historical worldview allowed on media, as
                  > > a dialectic and propagandistic counterpart to the current
                  > > social-political doxa, but also, in part, because an actual rightist
                  > > historiography is still lacking. Carolyn Yeager's successful efforts at
                  > > looking at how history is written by some of the main representatives of
                  > > the conspiracy theory, and at unearthing and cracking their background,
                  > > are most welcome.
                  > > >
                  > > > >
                  > > >
                  > > > > It is in the nature of political organisations or parties to be
                  > > infiltrated, and leftists, no matter their brand, their race, their
                  > > ethny or their religion, are experts at infiltration.
                  > > >
                  > > > > http://www.subvertednation.net/kikes-kkk-and-the-racial-divide/
                  > > >
                  > > > >
                  > > >
                  > > > > The first part (available at
                  > > http://reasonradionetwork.com/downloads/thh/VoR_The_Heretics_Hour_201101\
                  > > 31.mp3) turns out to be just as worth listening to ; in particularly,
                  > > the thesis, which happens to be also spread by M. Weber of the Institute
                  > > for Historical Review, of the collusion between Zionism and
                  > > National-Socialism is debunked to a large extent, to an extent which
                  > > could even be furthered. It is not, as made clear in the introduction,
                  > > about misinformation, but about disinformation, a positive, legitimate
                  > > and operative distinction between two terms to which overinformation
                  > > would need to be added.
                  > > >
                  > > > >
                  > > >
                  > > > >
                  > > >
                  > > > >
                  > > >
                  > > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "G. van der Heide" wrote:
                  > > >
                  > > > > >
                  > > >
                  > > > > > The more recent broadcasts of this radio show on WO II revisionism
                  > > proved to
                  > > >
                  > > > > > be of interest.
                  > > >
                  > > > > >
                  > > >
                  > > > > > "Carolyn discusses six major disinfo and conspiracy specialists
                  > > who love to
                  > > >
                  > > > > > confuse Globalism with "the Nazis:"
                  > > >
                  > > > > > Alex Jones: V Campaign as resistance against "Nazi" NWO;
                  > > >
                  > > > > > Jim Marrs: How America became the Fourth Reich;
                  > > >
                  > > > > > Webster Tarpley: Ties together Britain, the US & "the Nazis;"
                  > > >
                  > > > > > David Icke: Hitler was a Rothschild and a Reptilian;
                  > > >
                  > > > > > Henry Makow: Hitler was a Rothschild, a British Agent and a
                  > > Zionist;
                  > > >
                  > > > > > Wayne Madsen: The Drew Pearson of the 21st Century."
                  > > >
                  > > > > >
                  > > http://reasonradionetwork.com/20110207/the-heretics-hour-disinformation-\
                  > > on-the-internet-part-two
                  > > >
                  > > > > >
                  > > >
                  > > > >
                  > > >
                  > >
                  >
                  Delete
                • rouesolaire
                  In the USA, in the twentieth century (and even in the twenty-first century), there are probably still a lot of North Americans who see the U.S.I. (the United
                  Message 8 of 21 , Aug 15, 2013
                    In the USA, in the twentieth century (and even in the twenty-first century), there are probably still a lot of North Americans who see the U.S.I. (the United States of Israel) as "the Promised Land": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYnx6L8jvy0 (between 2.14 and 2.42), the original song is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_o7EAZ34vA . This gives a little idea of what is their inner "race".


                    Show message history
                    --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" <evola_as_he_is@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > As a coincidence, the comprehensive study (in French) on the United States, whose publication at http://elementsdeducationraciale.wordpress.com/ we announced a few weeks ago, is almost ready.
                    >
                    > We remain skeptical about the views generally expressed by `White-Nationalists' (some of them hardly need to take on a Semitic pseudonym to express their inner race) on the KKK. It's not really that "Simon Baruch, the former Quartermaster-General of the Confederate Army, and father of Bernard Baruch, was a post-Civil War member of the KKK." (Jews in America today, p. 58) One of the real questions is to know why some Southerners became fiercely opposed to the emancipation of Blacks after the Secession War, when neither the emancipation of Blacks before the war, nor the fact that there were Black slave-owners (see Black Slave-owners : Free Black Slave Masters in South Carolina, 1790-1860) seemed to bother them.
                    >
                    > More generally, we remain skeptical about the `aristocratic' character, much-vaunted by J. Evola and others, of Southerners, for reasons we have already put forward as well as in the light of "the remarkable breadth of Southern Jewry's participation in the war and the strength of Jewish commitment to the Confederate cause." (The Jewish Confederates, p. 229), and of other studies, like Jews and the Civil War: A Reader (see "Jewish Confederates"), and Myth and Southern History: The Old South, Vol. 1 (see chapter 6)
                    >
                    > P.s. : the link - that to the cache - is not working.
                    >
                    >
                    > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "rouesolaire" <rouesolaire@> wrote:
                    > >
                    > > Thank you for these additions and these explanations.
                    > >
                    > > It seems that the administrator of http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/ , a
                    > > so-called "white nationalist" whose pseudonym is nothing less than
                    > > "baaltanit", has an "eye" on this forum. It also seems that he didn't
                    > > like my message because he has deleted his article:
                    > > http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/ .
                    > > Unfortunately for him, the webpage is still available in the google's
                    > > cache
                    > > (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:LuK-jUB5_O4J:wnthi\
                    > > nktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/+http://wnthinktank.wo\
                    > > rdpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/&cd=1&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=fr) and
                    > > a copy has been made at http://www.sendspace.com/file/lkwnzi .
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "G. van der Heide" wrote:
                    > > >
                    > > > I thought it to be of minor importance, but I was reminded of the
                    > > pirate logo of the so-called "White Aryan Resistance"
                    > > (http://www.resist.com/updates/2009/APR_09/TT-WAR.jpg). It reads on the
                    > > Wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Aryan_Resistance that
                    > > it's leader was a former member of the K.K.K.
                    > > >
                    > > > Anyway, it lingers.
                    > > >
                    > > > Another associative thought, since the the K.K.K. phenomenon has an
                    > > "Anglo-Saxon" ring to it: the symbolism of the Southern Cross, as seen
                    > > in the flags of Australia and New Zealand among others, follows in the
                    > > tradition of most "new world" colonies
                    > > (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Southern_cross_appearing_on_a_nu\
                    > > mber_of_flags.PNG, http://eurekasydney.com/flag.html).
                    > > >
                    > > > To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                    > > > From: rouesolaire@
                    > > > Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 14:27:53 +0000
                    > > > Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: "Disinformation on the internet"
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > About the allusion which is made about the Ku Klux Klan at
                    > > http://elementsdeducationraciale.wordpress.com/2013/05/10/canaille-du-ha\
                    > > ut-racaille-du-bas/ , there are some relevant elements on the connection
                    > > between the Ku Klux Klan and Freemasonry at
                    > > http://mysterybabylon-watch.blogspot.fr/2011/09/video-hidden-hands-behin\
                    > > d-albert-pikes.html (the video is no longer relevant after 11:10).
                    > > >
                    > > > The skull and bones, the symbol of piracy, is found as well in the
                    > > "Knights of the Golden Circle" as in the "Ku Klux Klan" (1) (which, as
                    > > explained in the video, itself comes from the previous secret society),
                    > > the "Black Legion" and the "Skull and Bones" secret society
                    > > (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/1917.jpg)
                    > > and seems to have its origin in the Knights Templar (8:47). Notice that
                    > > the "Knights of the Golden Circle" main symbol (5:07) drifts from the
                    > > Templar cross.
                    > > >
                    > > > The members of the "Black Legion"
                    > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Legion_%28political_movement%29), a
                    > > group that splintered from the Ku Klux Klan, wear a pirate hat with a
                    > > uniform marked by a skull and bones. Here is a freemason uniform almost
                    > > identical to their:
                    > > http://adap2k.blogspot.fr/2009/06/antique-masonic-skull-and-bones-mask.h\
                    > > tml .
                    > > >
                    > > > Here is the logo of the "Knights of Pythias", an US secret society
                    > > related to Freemasonry:
                    > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Knightsofpythias.png . Here is a
                    > > symbol of the "Ku Klux Klan":
                    > > http://tightrope.cc/catalog/images/KKK-triangle-flag.jpg ,
                    > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/images/kkk_triangles.jpg ,
                    > > http://www.independent.co.uk/migration_catalog/article5127811.ece/ALTERN\
                    > > ATES/w620/klan_outfit.jpeg.
                    > > >
                    > > > The original symbol of the Ku Klux Klan was not the Christian cross
                    > > but the… Islamic Star and Crescent Moon, composed by two symbols
                    > > well known in Freemasonry, Freemasonry which certainly has itself an
                    > > Islamic origin. The Islamic Star and Crescent Moon is also part of the
                    > > logo of the US Masonic order named "Shriners"
                    > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shriners.png). That's not all, the
                    > > original Ku Klux Klan membership manual is called the… K(L)ORAN (!):
                    > > http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/
                    > > >
                    > > > Notice the three golden circles on the wall of this room where a
                    > > meeting whose most attendants are KKK members takes place:
                    > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/south_caroli\
                    > > na_2006.jpg ,
                    > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/sc5.jpg .
                    > > >
                    > > > Now, look at these Masonic objects:
                    > > http://imageshack.us/a/img543/5498/eips.jpg ,
                    > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/OddFellowMat\
                    > > chsafe2-2.jpg .
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > Incidentally, K+K+K = 11+11+11 = 33.
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > However, not everything is negative and some Ku Klux Klan's snapshots
                    > > can be beauties:
                    > > http://www.dodaj.rs/f/1E/UI/39pSDIip/the-klansmen--johnny-reb.png .
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > (1)
                    > > http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YttMT-NfXsk/TmpFrXp6CcI/AAAAAAAAAZs/X340-P0oxl\
                    > > Q/s1600/Ku+Klux+Klan+1.JPG
                    > > http://freeamericanscommunity.com/kkkstore/product_info.php?products_id=\
                    > > 54
                    > > >
                    > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/103977.jpg
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" evola_as_he_is@ wrote:
                    > > >
                    > > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > > J. Evola, in the aftermath of WW2, deplored the lack of a decent
                    > > rightist historiography likely to oppose and to debunk the views of
                    > > Marxist historiography. The situation has not really changed. The
                    > > domination of historical materialism is more than ever undisputed, not
                    > > simply because it is the sole historical worldview allowed on media, as
                    > > a dialectic and propagandistic counterpart to the current
                    > > social-political doxa, but also, in part, because an actual rightist
                    > > historiography is still lacking. Carolyn Yeager's successful efforts at
                    > > looking at how history is written by some of the main representatives of
                    > > the conspiracy theory, and at unearthing and cracking their background,
                    > > are most welcome.
                    > > >
                    > > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > > It is in the nature of political organisations or parties to be
                    > > infiltrated, and leftists, no matter their brand, their race, their
                    > > ethny or their religion, are experts at infiltration.
                    > > >
                    > > > > http://www.subvertednation.net/kikes-kkk-and-the-racial-divide/
                    > > >
                    > > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > > The first part (available at
                    > > http://reasonradionetwork.com/downloads/thh/VoR_The_Heretics_Hour_201101\
                    > > 31.mp3) turns out to be just as worth listening to ; in particularly,
                    > > the thesis, which happens to be also spread by M. Weber of the Institute
                    > > for Historical Review, of the collusion between Zionism and
                    > > National-Socialism is debunked to a large extent, to an extent which
                    > > could even be furthered. It is not, as made clear in the introduction,
                    > > about misinformation, but about disinformation, a positive, legitimate
                    > > and operative distinction between two terms to which overinformation
                    > > would need to be added.
                    > > >
                    > > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "G. van der Heide" wrote:
                    > > >
                    > > > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > > > The more recent broadcasts of this radio show on WO II revisionism
                    > > proved to
                    > > >
                    > > > > > be of interest.
                    > > >
                    > > > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > > > "Carolyn discusses six major disinfo and conspiracy specialists
                    > > who love to
                    > > >
                    > > > > > confuse Globalism with "the Nazis:"
                    > > >
                    > > > > > Alex Jones: V Campaign as resistance against "Nazi" NWO;
                    > > >
                    > > > > > Jim Marrs: How America became the Fourth Reich;
                    > > >
                    > > > > > Webster Tarpley: Ties together Britain, the US & "the Nazis;"
                    > > >
                    > > > > > David Icke: Hitler was a Rothschild and a Reptilian;
                    > > >
                    > > > > > Henry Makow: Hitler was a Rothschild, a British Agent and a
                    > > Zionist;
                    > > >
                    > > > > > Wayne Madsen: The Drew Pearson of the 21st Century."
                    > > >
                    > > > > >
                    > > http://reasonradionetwork.com/20110207/the-heretics-hour-disinformation-\
                    > > on-the-internet-part-two
                    > > >
                    > > > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > >
                    > > >
                    > >
                    >
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                  • rouesolaire
                    It becomes more and more clear that the war between the North and the South was an economic war masked by racial, religious and political considerations and it
                    Message 9 of 21 , Aug 18, 2013

                      It becomes more and more clear that the war between the North and the South was an economic war masked by racial, religious and political considerations and it seems that the same Semitic hand acted behind Southerners and Northerners. The primary goal was to import as many Negroes as possible in the USA and to make a business with the slave trade. Then, to "free" them and to use them as "cheap labor" and "small borrowers". Finally, to contaminate the Whites by the "cultural" and infra-human influences that Negroes naturally carry and spread everywhere, and to establish the miscegenation of Whites.

                       

                      The two following documents are of interest. The first (http://greatwhitedesert.org/dir/index.php?title=The_Seven_Symbols_of_the_Klan), an excerpt from "The Imperial Night-Hawk" dated from December 26, 1923, explains why water, the feminine element by excellence, is sacred to the KKK.

                      The second (http://greatwhitedesert.org/dir/index.php?title=The_Ku_Klux_Klan_Unmasked), written something like 90 years ago, learns us that the KKK was in theory a defender of one of the dogmas of laicity, like freemasonry: " 1. Religiously We Stand For: [...] The absolute freedom and liberty of worship. [...]Unconditional religious toleration toward all people.

                      The Klan NEVER HAS, and NEVER WILL, under any circumstances, seek to prevent or interfere with any religious sect or people in the exercise of their constitutional right to "worship God according to the dictates of their own conscience." We positively make no fight on any race or religion. You have never heard of the Klan disturbing or molesting any religious services, or interfering with any race or creed in the exercise of their rights as American citizens, and you never will. We PRACTICE religious toleration. "

                      The following excerpt, for its part, could give a heart attack to a consistent "aryanist":

                       "MORE THAN 5,000,000 MEMBERS;

                      Including more than 750,000 Masons,

                      And more than 30,000 Protestant Ministers.

                      Honestly, do you know of any other Order that has a better endorsement than that? Isn't the recommendation of 750,000 Masons and 50,000 ministers sufficient to commend it to your confidence? Do you think that such men as these would endorse, defend, support and belong to an organization that was corrupt, immoral, lawless or dangerous? Do you believe that such a large number of men could be deceived, deluded or bribed into upholding the wrong? "

                      Maybe the KKK's members didn't/don't know that Freemasonry, like their judeo-christianity, is from Semitic origin and that it was a Jew who the first imported the "Order of the Scottish Rite Masonic Order" in America: "Moses Michael Hays was brother-in-law of Rabbi Isaac Touro and a prosperous merchant.  Hays introduced the Order of the Scottish Rite Masonic Order to America. He was the Grand Master of Massachusetts Masonic Lodge with Paul Revere and friend of Patriot Thomas Paine and he helped organized the King David Lodge in 1769.  Hays moved from Newport to Boston in 1780. He is credited as being one of the founders of the Massachusetts Fire and Marine Insurance Co., which grew to become the Bank of Boston.  At the Old Colony House,  one of the oldest existing government buildings in America, in June, 1776, Hays delivered a now famous letter to Rhode Island General Assembly protesting the requirement that Jews sign loyalty test before the fledging government." (page 22, http://www.ahava.org/SephardicPiratesoftheRevolutionaryWar.pdf). See also pages 54-55.

                      Or maybe are they just inwardly Semites? It is true that a lot of North-Americans believed and still believes to these stories of Hebrew Aryans who conquered the New Promised Land, and that the USA has for sacred goal to redeem a Sinful Europe. Anyway, everything has a negro-semitic origin in the United States of Israel.

                       

                      According to Wikipedia, "kloran" is indeed "a portmanteau of "Klan" and Koran" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kloran). A 1963 version can be read here: http://fr.scribd.com/doc/20346762/The-Kloran-of-The-White-Knights-of-The-Ku-Klux-Klan-of-the-Realm-of-Mississippi .

                       

                      Not all "Whites nationalist" who have a positive view on the KKK are bigots or inwardly Semites. Some of them have just been mislead on what it is, and keep a biased vision on it because of their ignorance. After all, Julius Evola had a very positive view on the knights Templar. It was because he had a biased view on them, if he had known all the truth about them, would he had a so much positive view on them? I do not think. Moreover, there is his appalling idealization on sacred prostitution and harem, while harem was a place full of jealousy where each woman wanted to be the favorite of the sex maniac Semite who considered them only as pieces of meat.



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                      --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" wrote:
                      >
                      > As a coincidence, the comprehensive study (in French) on the United States, whose publication at http://elementsdeducationraciale.wordpress.com/ we announced a few weeks ago, is almost ready.
                      >
                      > We remain skeptical about the views generally expressed by `White-Nationalists' (some of them hardly need to take on a Semitic pseudonym to express their inner race) on the KKK. It's not really that "Simon Baruch, the former Quartermaster-General of the Confederate Army, and father of Bernard Baruch, was a post-Civil War member of the KKK." (Jews in America today, p. 58) One of the real questions is to know why some Southerners became fiercely opposed to the emancipation of Blacks after the Secession War, when neither the emancipation of Blacks before the war, nor the fact that there were Black slave-owners (see Black Slave-owners : Free Black Slave Masters in South Carolina, 1790-1860) seemed to bother them.
                      >
                      > More generally, we remain skeptical about the `aristocratic' character, much-vaunted by J. Evola and others, of Southerners, for reasons we have already put forward as well as in the light of "the remarkable breadth of Southern Jewry's participation in the war and the strength of Jewish commitment to the Confederate cause." (The Jewish Confederates, p. 229), and of other studies, like Jews and the Civil War: A Reader (see "Jewish Confederates"), and Myth and Southern History: The Old South, Vol. 1 (see chapter 6)
                      >
                      > P.s. : the link - that to the cache - is not working.
                      >
                      >
                      > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "rouesolaire" rouesolaire@ wrote:
                      > >
                      > > Thank you for these additions and these explanations.
                      > >
                      > > It seems that the administrator of http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/ , a
                      > > so-called "white nationalist" whose pseudonym is nothing less than
                      > > "baaltanit", has an "eye" on this forum. It also seems that he didn't
                      > > like my message because he has deleted his article:
                      > > http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/ .
                      > > Unfortunately for him, the webpage is still available in the google's
                      > > cache
                      > > (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:LuK-jUB5_O4J:wnthi\
                      > > nktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/+http://wnthinktank.wo\
                      > > rdpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/&cd=1&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=fr) and
                      > > a copy has been made at http://www.sendspace.com/file/lkwnzi .
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "G. van der Heide" wrote:
                      > > >
                      > > > I thought it to be of minor importance, but I was reminded of the
                      > > pirate logo of the so-called "White Aryan Resistance"
                      > > (http://www.resist.com/updates/2009/APR_09/TT-WAR.jpg). It reads on the
                      > > Wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Aryan_Resistance that
                      > > it's leader was a former member of the K.K.K.
                      > > >
                      > > > Anyway, it lingers.
                      > > >
                      > > > Another associative thought, since the the K.K.K. phenomenon has an
                      > > "Anglo-Saxon" ring to it: the symbolism of the Southern Cross, as seen
                      > > in the flags of Australia and New Zealand among others, follows in the
                      > > tradition of most "new world" colonies
                      > > (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Southern_cross_appearing_on_a_nu\
                      > > mber_of_flags.PNG, http://eurekasydney.com/flag.html).
                      > > >
                      > > > To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                      > > > From: rouesolaire@
                      > > > Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 14:27:53 +0000
                      > > > Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: "Disinformation on the internet"
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > About the allusion which is made about the Ku Klux Klan at
                      > > http://elementsdeducationraciale.wordpress.com/2013/05/10/canaille-du-ha\
                      > > ut-racaille-du-bas/ , there are some relevant elements on the connection
                      > > between the Ku Klux Klan and Freemasonry at
                      > > http://mysterybabylon-watch.blogspot.fr/2011/09/video-hidden-hands-behin\
                      > > d-albert-pikes.html (the video is no longer relevant after 11:10).
                      > > >
                      > > > The skull and bones, the symbol of piracy, is found as well in the
                      > > "Knights of the Golden Circle" as in the "Ku Klux Klan" (1) (which, as
                      > > explained in the video, itself comes from the previous secret society),
                      > > the "Black Legion" and the "Skull and Bones" secret society
                      > > (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/1917.jpg)
                      > > and seems to have its origin in the Knights Templar (8:47). Notice that
                      > > the "Knights of the Golden Circle" main symbol (5:07) drifts from the
                      > > Templar cross.
                      > > >
                      > > > The members of the "Black Legion"
                      > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Legion_%28political_movement%29), a
                      > > group that splintered from the Ku Klux Klan, wear a pirate hat with a
                      > > uniform marked by a skull and bones. Here is a freemason uniform almost
                      > > identical to their:
                      > > http://adap2k.blogspot.fr/2009/06/antique-masonic-skull-and-bones-mask.h\
                      > > tml .
                      > > >
                      > > > Here is the logo of the "Knights of Pythias", an US secret society
                      > > related to Freemasonry:
                      > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Knightsofpythias.png . Here is a
                      > > symbol of the "Ku Klux Klan":
                      > > http://tightrope.cc/catalog/images/KKK-triangle-flag.jpg ,
                      > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/images/kkk_triangles.jpg ,
                      > > http://www.independent.co.uk/migration_catalog/article5127811.ece/ALTERN\
                      > > ATES/w620/klan_outfit.jpeg.
                      > > >
                      > > > The original symbol of the Ku Klux Klan was not the Christian cross
                      > > but the… Islamic Star and Crescent Moon, composed by two symbols
                      > > well known in Freemasonry, Freemasonry which certainly has itself an
                      > > Islamic origin. The Islamic Star and Crescent Moon is also part of the
                      > > logo of the US Masonic order named "Shriners"
                      > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shriners.png). That's not all, the
                      > > original Ku Klux Klan membership manual is called the… K(L)ORAN (!):
                      > > http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/
                      > > >
                      > > > Notice the three golden circles on the wall of this room where a
                      > > meeting whose most attendants are KKK members takes place:
                      > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/south_caroli\
                      > > na_2006.jpg ,
                      > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/sc5.jpg .
                      > > >
                      > > > Now, look at these Masonic objects:
                      > > http://imageshack.us/a/img543/5498/eips.jpg ,
                      > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/OddFellowMat\
                      > > chsafe2-2.jpg .
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > Incidentally, K+K+K = 11+11+11 = 33.
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > However, not everything is negative and some Ku Klux Klan's snapshots
                      > > can be beauties:
                      > > http://www.dodaj.rs/f/1E/UI/39pSDIip/the-klansmen--johnny-reb.png .
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > (1)
                      > > http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YttMT-NfXsk/TmpFrXp6CcI/AAAAAAAAAZs/X340-P0oxl\
                      > > Q/s1600/Ku+Klux+Klan+1.JPG
                      > > http://freeamericanscommunity.com/kkkstore/product_info.php?products_id=\
                      > > 54
                      > > >
                      > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/103977.jpg
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" evola_as_he_is@ wrote:
                      > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > > J. Evola, in the aftermath of WW2, deplored the lack of a decent
                      > > rightist historiography likely to oppose and to debunk the views of
                      > > Marxist historiography. The situation has not really changed. The
                      > > domination of historical materialism is more than ever undisputed, not
                      > > simply because it is the sole historical worldview allowed on media, as
                      > > a dialectic and propagandistic counterpart to the current
                      > > social-political doxa, but also, in part, because an actual rightist
                      > > historiography is still lacking. Carolyn Yeager's successful efforts at
                      > > looking at how history is written by some of the main representatives of
                      > > the conspiracy theory, and at unearthing and cracking their background,
                      > > are most welcome.
                      > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > > It is in the nature of political organisations or parties to be
                      > > infiltrated, and leftists, no matter their brand, their race, their
                      > > ethny or their religion, are experts at infiltration.
                      > > >
                      > > > > http://www.subvertednation.net/kikes-kkk-and-the-racial-divide/
                      > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > > The first part (available at
                      > > http://reasonradionetwork.com/downloads/thh/VoR_The_Heretics_Hour_201101\
                      > > 31.mp3) turns out to be just as worth listening to ; in particularly,
                      > > the thesis, which happens to be also spread by M. Weber of the Institute
                      > > for Historical Review, of the collusion between Zionism and
                      > > National-Socialism is debunked to a large extent, to an extent which
                      > > could even be furthered. It is not, as made clear in the introduction,
                      > > about misinformation, but about disinformation, a positive, legitimate
                      > > and operative distinction between two terms to which overinformation
                      > > would need to be added.
                      > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "G. van der Heide" wrote:
                      > > >
                      > > > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > > > The more recent broadcasts of this radio show on WO II revisionism
                      > > proved to
                      > > >
                      > > > > > be of interest.
                      > > >
                      > > > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > > > "Carolyn discusses six major disinfo and conspiracy specialists
                      > > who love to
                      > > >
                      > > > > > confuse Globalism with "the Nazis:"
                      > > >
                      > > > > > Alex Jones: V Campaign as resistance against "Nazi" NWO;
                      > > >
                      > > > > > Jim Marrs: How America became the Fourth Reich;
                      > > >
                      > > > > > Webster Tarpley: Ties together Britain, the US & "the Nazis;"
                      > > >
                      > > > > > David Icke: Hitler was a Rothschild and a Reptilian;
                      > > >
                      > > > > > Henry Makow: Hitler was a Rothschild, a British Agent and a
                      > > Zionist;
                      > > >
                      > > > > > Wayne Madsen: The Drew Pearson of the 21st Century."
                      > > >
                      > > > > >
                      > > http://reasonradionetwork.com/20110207/the-heretics-hour-disinformation-\
                      > > on-the-internet-part-two
                      > > >
                      > > > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > >
                      > >
                      >
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                    • rouesolaire
                      About the shriners , do not miss http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOSt_SJkYTg . What is the Moorish-Islamic influence in America? Past and present. From
                      Message 10 of 21 , Aug 18, 2013
                        About the "shriners", do not miss
                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOSt_SJkYTg . "What is the
                        Moorish-Islamic influence in America? Past and present. From
                        Moorish-Revival architect spread throughout the land, Presidents with
                        personal Qurans, and several cities with Islamic names, to secret
                        pseudo-Islamic orders. Even the name America is connected to the Arabic
                        word Amir. Secrets upon secrets."

                        President Harry Truman was a shriner:
                        http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-I3y8oaNe-gA/Ty4L0IXYGkI/AAAAAAAACXo/IRzCQhBxiI\
                        4/s1600/70918342_6efd5c8ecd_b.jpg

                        Warren Gamaliel too:
                        http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4V2qWSzPQtk/Ty4PpO_ZzvI/AAAAAAAACX4/DsHO3uN4ZY\
                        k/s1600/HardingAladdinHat.jpg

                        Gerald Ford too:
                        http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LMWWAAt9Kl0/Ty4QTUuFcpI/AAAAAAAACYA/ik8PhVP4uc\
                        0/s1600/ford_shriner.gif

                        Franklin Roosevelt too: http://www.muratshrine.org/famous.php

                        Ronald Reagan an honorary member:
                        http://www.mastermason.com/wilmettepark/pres.html

                        Some other famous individuals: http://www.kosair.com/famousshriners.html


                        Some documents about the "shriners".
                        http://masonbusters.webs.com/shrinersoathisislamic.htm
                        http://www.inplainsite.org/html/freemasonry.html#Shriners
                        http://www.studying-islam.org/forum/topic.aspx?topicid=2087
                        http://www.stichtingargus.nl/vrijmetselarij/shriners_en.html

                        Some pictures.
                        http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wLx4ZQcefgw/Ty6_sJ8BpII/AAAAAAAACYY/r0c5H37SoE\
                        M/s1600/imagesCA2C16LC.jpg
                        http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZbVeFyf-5Oo/Ty6_oXFs_OI/AAAAAAAACYQ/K6i7FqxGjZ\
                        4/s1600/jmip.jpg
                        http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9RtCOWlDY24/TqUayptqlYI/AAAAAAAAAZ8/__sKieHC4u\
                        4/s400/Luther+Burbank+1921.jpg
                        http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vtg-AL-KORAN-Temple-Shriners-Felt-FEZ-Hat-Cap-Sz-\
                        7-1-8-/00/s/MTE3MFgxNjAw/z/L60AAOxy7S5SB8M3/$%28KGrHqR,!qgFHz2KvvNKBSB8M\
                        2zb%28!~~60_35.JPG
                        http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/masonicmuseum/images/Islam1915Vase2.jpg
                        http://www.islamtempleno182.org/images/IslamTemple1.jpg
                        http://thumbs2.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mxCkydPGGOhEWDKgnTnCftw.jpg
                        http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-Shriners-JEWELED-Fez-Hat-ISLAM-Greeters-S\
                        an-Francisco-Ecmo-w-Case-NICE-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/r8gAAOxyoFRR5zwH/$%28\
                        KGrHqF,!n0FHdZQQ64WBR5zwHIeBg~~60_12.JPG



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                        --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" wrote:
                        >
                        > As a coincidence, the comprehensive study (in French) on the United
                        States, whose publication at
                        http://elementsdeducationraciale.wordpress.com/ we announced a few weeks
                        ago, is almost ready.
                        >
                        > We remain skeptical about the views generally expressed by
                        `White-Nationalists' (some of them hardly need to take on a Semitic
                        pseudonym to express their inner race) on the KKK. It's not really that
                        "Simon Baruch, the former Quartermaster-General of the Confederate Army,
                        and father of Bernard Baruch, was a post-Civil War member of the KKK."
                        (Jews in America today, p. 58) One of the real questions is to know why
                        some Southerners became fiercely opposed to the emancipation of Blacks
                        after the Secession War, when neither the emancipation of Blacks before
                        the war, nor the fact that there were Black slave-owners (see Black
                        Slave-owners : Free Black Slave Masters in South Carolina, 1790-1860)
                        seemed to bother them.
                        >
                        > More generally, we remain skeptical about the `aristocratic'
                        character, much-vaunted by J. Evola and others, of Southerners, for
                        reasons we have already put forward as well as in the light of "the
                        remarkable breadth of Southern Jewry's participation in the war and the
                        strength of Jewish commitment to the Confederate cause." (The Jewish
                        Confederates, p. 229), and of other studies, like Jews and the Civil
                        War: A Reader (see "Jewish Confederates"), and Myth and Southern
                        History: The Old South, Vol. 1 (see chapter 6)
                        >
                        > P.s. : the link - that to the cache - is not working.
                        >
                        >
                        > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "rouesolaire" rouesolaire@
                        wrote:
                        > >
                        > > Thank you for these additions and these explanations.
                        > >
                        > > It seems that the administrator of http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/
                        , a
                        > > so-called "white nationalist" whose pseudonym is nothing less than
                        > > "baaltanit", has an "eye" on this forum. It also seems that he
                        didn't
                        > > like my message because he has deleted his article:
                        > > http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/ .
                        > > Unfortunately for him, the webpage is still available in the
                        google's
                        > > cache
                        > >
                        (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:LuK-jUB5_O4J:wnthi\
                        \
                        > >
                        nktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/+http://wnthinktank.wo\
                        \
                        > > rdpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/&cd=1&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=fr)
                        and
                        > > a copy has been made at http://www.sendspace.com/file/lkwnzi .
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "G. van der Heide" wrote:
                        > > >
                        > > > I thought it to be of minor importance, but I was reminded of the
                        > > pirate logo of the so-called "White Aryan Resistance"
                        > > (http://www.resist.com/updates/2009/APR_09/TT-WAR.jpg). It reads on
                        the
                        > > Wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Aryan_Resistance
                        that
                        > > it's leader was a former member of the K.K.K.
                        > > >
                        > > > Anyway, it lingers.
                        > > >
                        > > > Another associative thought, since the the K.K.K. phenomenon has
                        an
                        > > "Anglo-Saxon" ring to it: the symbolism of the Southern Cross, as
                        seen
                        > > in the flags of Australia and New Zealand among others, follows in
                        the
                        > > tradition of most "new world" colonies
                        > >
                        (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Southern_cross_appearing_on_a_nu\
                        \
                        > > mber_of_flags.PNG, http://eurekasydney.com/flag.html).
                        > > >
                        > > > To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                        > > > From: rouesolaire@
                        > > > Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 14:27:53 +0000
                        > > > Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: "Disinformation on the internet"
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > About the allusion which is made about the Ku Klux Klan at
                        > >
                        http://elementsdeducationraciale.wordpress.com/2013/05/10/canaille-du-ha\
                        \
                        > > ut-racaille-du-bas/ , there are some relevant elements on the
                        connection
                        > > between the Ku Klux Klan and Freemasonry at
                        > >
                        http://mysterybabylon-watch.blogspot.fr/2011/09/video-hidden-hands-behin\
                        \
                        > > d-albert-pikes.html (the video is no longer relevant after 11:10).
                        > > >
                        > > > The skull and bones, the symbol of piracy, is found as well in the
                        > > "Knights of the Golden Circle" as in the "Ku Klux Klan" (1) (which,
                        as
                        > > explained in the video, itself comes from the previous secret
                        society),
                        > > the "Black Legion" and the "Skull and Bones" secret society
                        > >
                        (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/1917.jpg)
                        > > and seems to have its origin in the Knights Templar (8:47). Notice
                        that
                        > > the "Knights of the Golden Circle" main symbol (5:07) drifts from
                        the
                        > > Templar cross.
                        > > >
                        > > > The members of the "Black Legion"
                        > >
                        (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Legion_%28political_movement%29), a
                        > > group that splintered from the Ku Klux Klan, wear a pirate hat with
                        a
                        > > uniform marked by a skull and bones. Here is a freemason uniform
                        almost
                        > > identical to their:
                        > >
                        http://adap2k.blogspot.fr/2009/06/antique-masonic-skull-and-bones-mask.h\
                        \
                        > > tml .
                        > > >
                        > > > Here is the logo of the "Knights of Pythias", an US secret society
                        > > related to Freemasonry:
                        > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Knightsofpythias.png . Here is a
                        > > symbol of the "Ku Klux Klan":
                        > > http://tightrope.cc/catalog/images/KKK-triangle-flag.jpg ,
                        > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/images/kkk_triangles.jpg ,
                        > >
                        http://www.independent.co.uk/migration_catalog/article5127811.ece/ALTERN\
                        \
                        > > ATES/w620/klan_outfit.jpeg.
                        > > >
                        > > > The original symbol of the Ku Klux Klan was not the Christian
                        cross
                        > > but the… Islamic Star and Crescent Moon, composed by two symbols
                        > > well known in Freemasonry, Freemasonry which certainly has itself an
                        > > Islamic origin. The Islamic Star and Crescent Moon is also part of
                        the
                        > > logo of the US Masonic order named "Shriners"
                        > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shriners.png). That's not all,
                        the
                        > > original Ku Klux Klan membership manual is called the… K(L)ORAN
                        (!):
                        > > http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/
                        > > >
                        > > > Notice the three golden circles on the wall of this room where a
                        > > meeting whose most attendants are KKK members takes place:
                        > >
                        http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/south_caroli\
                        \
                        > > na_2006.jpg ,
                        > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/sc5.jpg
                        .
                        > > >
                        > > > Now, look at these Masonic objects:
                        > > http://imageshack.us/a/img543/5498/eips.jpg ,
                        > >
                        http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/OddFellowMat\
                        \
                        > > chsafe2-2.jpg .
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > Incidentally, K+K+K = 11+11+11 = 33.
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > However, not everything is negative and some Ku Klux Klan's
                        snapshots
                        > > can be beauties:
                        > > http://www.dodaj.rs/f/1E/UI/39pSDIip/the-klansmen--johnny-reb.png .
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > (1)
                        > >
                        http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YttMT-NfXsk/TmpFrXp6CcI/AAAAAAAAAZs/X340-P0oxl\
                        \
                        > > Q/s1600/Ku+Klux+Klan+1.JPG
                        > >
                        http://freeamericanscommunity.com/kkkstore/product_info.php?products_id=\
                        \
                        > > 54
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/103977.jpg
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" evola_as_he_is@
                        wrote:
                        > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > > J. Evola, in the aftermath of WW2, deplored the lack of a decent
                        > > rightist historiography likely to oppose and to debunk the views of
                        > > Marxist historiography. The situation has not really changed. The
                        > > domination of historical materialism is more than ever undisputed,
                        not
                        > > simply because it is the sole historical worldview allowed on media,
                        as
                        > > a dialectic and propagandistic counterpart to the current
                        > > social-political doxa, but also, in part, because an actual rightist
                        > > historiography is still lacking. Carolyn Yeager's successful efforts
                        at
                        > > looking at how history is written by some of the main
                        representatives of
                        > > the conspiracy theory, and at unearthing and cracking their
                        background,
                        > > are most welcome.
                        > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > > It is in the nature of political organisations or parties to be
                        > > infiltrated, and leftists, no matter their brand, their race, their
                        > > ethny or their religion, are experts at infiltration.
                        > > >
                        > > > > http://www.subvertednation.net/kikes-kkk-and-the-racial-divide/
                        > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > > The first part (available at
                        > >
                        http://reasonradionetwork.com/downloads/thh/VoR_The_Heretics_Hour_201101\
                        \
                        > > 31.mp3) turns out to be just as worth listening to ; in
                        particularly,
                        > > the thesis, which happens to be also spread by M. Weber of the
                        Institute
                        > > for Historical Review, of the collusion between Zionism and
                        > > National-Socialism is debunked to a large extent, to an extent which
                        > > could even be furthered. It is not, as made clear in the
                        introduction,
                        > > about misinformation, but about disinformation, a positive,
                        legitimate
                        > > and operative distinction between two terms to which overinformation
                        > > would need to be added.
                        > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "G. van der Heide"
                        wrote:
                        > > >
                        > > > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > > > The more recent broadcasts of this radio show on WO II
                        revisionism
                        > > proved to
                        > > >
                        > > > > > be of interest.
                        > > >
                        > > > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > > > "Carolyn discusses six major disinfo and conspiracy
                        specialists
                        > > who love to
                        > > >
                        > > > > > confuse Globalism with "the Nazis:"
                        > > >
                        > > > > > Alex Jones: V Campaign as resistance against "Nazi" NWO;
                        > > >
                        > > > > > Jim Marrs: How America became the Fourth Reich;
                        > > >
                        > > > > > Webster Tarpley: Ties together Britain, the US & "the Nazis;"
                        > > >
                        > > > > > David Icke: Hitler was a Rothschild and a Reptilian;
                        > > >
                        > > > > > Henry Makow: Hitler was a Rothschild, a British Agent and a
                        > > Zionist;
                        > > >
                        > > > > > Wayne Madsen: The Drew Pearson of the 21st Century."
                        > > >
                        > > > > >
                        > >
                        http://reasonradionetwork.com/20110207/the-heretics-hour-disinformation-\
                        \
                        > > on-the-internet-part-two
                        > > >
                        > > > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > >
                        > >
                        >
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                      • rouesolaire
                        About the New Canaan : http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t919528/#post10667470 . This is extracted from
                        Message 11 of 21 , Aug 18, 2013
                          About the "New Canaan":
                          http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t919528/#post10667470 .
                          This is extracted from
                          http://www.missiontoisrael.org/gods-covenant-people/chapter12-uc.php .
                          For its part http://www.missiontoisrael.org/ is entirely dedicated to
                          these stories of "Aryan Hebrew", "Christian Identity/Seedline"
                          (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Identity) and "New Canaan".

                          Show message history
                          --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" wrote:
                          >
                          > As a coincidence, the comprehensive study (in French) on the United
                          States, whose publication at
                          http://elementsdeducationraciale.wordpress.com/ we announced a few weeks
                          ago, is almost ready.
                          >
                          > We remain skeptical about the views generally expressed by
                          `White-Nationalists' (some of them hardly need to take on a Semitic
                          pseudonym to express their inner race) on the KKK. It's not really that
                          "Simon Baruch, the former Quartermaster-General of the Confederate Army,
                          and father of Bernard Baruch, was a post-Civil War member of the KKK."
                          (Jews in America today, p. 58) One of the real questions is to know why
                          some Southerners became fiercely opposed to the emancipation of Blacks
                          after the Secession War, when neither the emancipation of Blacks before
                          the war, nor the fact that there were Black slave-owners (see Black
                          Slave-owners : Free Black Slave Masters in South Carolina, 1790-1860)
                          seemed to bother them.
                          >
                          > More generally, we remain skeptical about the `aristocratic'
                          character, much-vaunted by J. Evola and others, of Southerners, for
                          reasons we have already put forward as well as in the light of "the
                          remarkable breadth of Southern Jewry's participation in the war and the
                          strength of Jewish commitment to the Confederate cause." (The Jewish
                          Confederates, p. 229), and of other studies, like Jews and the Civil
                          War: A Reader (see "Jewish Confederates"), and Myth and Southern
                          History: The Old South, Vol. 1 (see chapter 6)
                          >
                          > P.s. : the link - that to the cache - is not working.
                          >
                          >
                          > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "rouesolaire" rouesolaire@
                          wrote:
                          > >
                          > > Thank you for these additions and these explanations.
                          > >
                          > > It seems that the administrator of http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/
                          , a
                          > > so-called "white nationalist" whose pseudonym is nothing less than
                          > > "baaltanit", has an "eye" on this forum. It also seems that he
                          didn't
                          > > like my message because he has deleted his article:
                          > > http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/ .
                          > > Unfortunately for him, the webpage is still available in the
                          google's
                          > > cache
                          > >
                          (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:LuK-jUB5_O4J:wnthi\
                          \
                          > >
                          nktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/+http://wnthinktank.wo\
                          \
                          > > rdpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/&cd=1&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=fr)
                          and
                          > > a copy has been made at http://www.sendspace.com/file/lkwnzi .
                          > >
                          > >
                          > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "G. van der Heide" wrote:
                          > > >
                          > > > I thought it to be of minor importance, but I was reminded of the
                          > > pirate logo of the so-called "White Aryan Resistance"
                          > > (http://www.resist.com/updates/2009/APR_09/TT-WAR.jpg). It reads on
                          the
                          > > Wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Aryan_Resistance
                          that
                          > > it's leader was a former member of the K.K.K.
                          > > >
                          > > > Anyway, it lingers.
                          > > >
                          > > > Another associative thought, since the the K.K.K. phenomenon has
                          an
                          > > "Anglo-Saxon" ring to it: the symbolism of the Southern Cross, as
                          seen
                          > > in the flags of Australia and New Zealand among others, follows in
                          the
                          > > tradition of most "new world" colonies
                          > >
                          (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Southern_cross_appearing_on_a_nu\
                          \
                          > > mber_of_flags.PNG, http://eurekasydney.com/flag.html).
                          > > >
                          > > > To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                          > > > From: rouesolaire@
                          > > > Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 14:27:53 +0000
                          > > > Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: "Disinformation on the internet"
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > About the allusion which is made about the Ku Klux Klan at
                          > >
                          http://elementsdeducationraciale.wordpress.com/2013/05/10/canaille-du-ha\
                          \
                          > > ut-racaille-du-bas/ , there are some relevant elements on the
                          connection
                          > > between the Ku Klux Klan and Freemasonry at
                          > >
                          http://mysterybabylon-watch.blogspot.fr/2011/09/video-hidden-hands-behin\
                          \
                          > > d-albert-pikes.html (the video is no longer relevant after 11:10).
                          > > >
                          > > > The skull and bones, the symbol of piracy, is found as well in the
                          > > "Knights of the Golden Circle" as in the "Ku Klux Klan" (1) (which,
                          as
                          > > explained in the video, itself comes from the previous secret
                          society),
                          > > the "Black Legion" and the "Skull and Bones" secret society
                          > >
                          (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/1917.jpg)
                          > > and seems to have its origin in the Knights Templar (8:47). Notice
                          that
                          > > the "Knights of the Golden Circle" main symbol (5:07) drifts from
                          the
                          > > Templar cross.
                          > > >
                          > > > The members of the "Black Legion"
                          > >
                          (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Legion_%28political_movement%29), a
                          > > group that splintered from the Ku Klux Klan, wear a pirate hat with
                          a
                          > > uniform marked by a skull and bones. Here is a freemason uniform
                          almost
                          > > identical to their:
                          > >
                          http://adap2k.blogspot.fr/2009/06/antique-masonic-skull-and-bones-mask.h\
                          \
                          > > tml .
                          > > >
                          > > > Here is the logo of the "Knights of Pythias", an US secret society
                          > > related to Freemasonry:
                          > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Knightsofpythias.png . Here is a
                          > > symbol of the "Ku Klux Klan":
                          > > http://tightrope.cc/catalog/images/KKK-triangle-flag.jpg ,
                          > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/images/kkk_triangles.jpg ,
                          > >
                          http://www.independent.co.uk/migration_catalog/article5127811.ece/ALTERN\
                          \
                          > > ATES/w620/klan_outfit.jpeg.
                          > > >
                          > > > The original symbol of the Ku Klux Klan was not the Christian
                          cross
                          > > but the… Islamic Star and Crescent Moon, composed by two symbols
                          > > well known in Freemasonry, Freemasonry which certainly has itself an
                          > > Islamic origin. The Islamic Star and Crescent Moon is also part of
                          the
                          > > logo of the US Masonic order named "Shriners"
                          > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shriners.png). That's not all,
                          the
                          > > original Ku Klux Klan membership manual is called the… K(L)ORAN
                          (!):
                          > > http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/
                          > > >
                          > > > Notice the three golden circles on the wall of this room where a
                          > > meeting whose most attendants are KKK members takes place:
                          > >
                          http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/south_caroli\
                          \
                          > > na_2006.jpg ,
                          > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/sc5.jpg
                          .
                          > > >
                          > > > Now, look at these Masonic objects:
                          > > http://imageshack.us/a/img543/5498/eips.jpg ,
                          > >
                          http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/OddFellowMat\
                          \
                          > > chsafe2-2.jpg .
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > Incidentally, K+K+K = 11+11+11 = 33.
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > However, not everything is negative and some Ku Klux Klan's
                          snapshots
                          > > can be beauties:
                          > > http://www.dodaj.rs/f/1E/UI/39pSDIip/the-klansmen--johnny-reb.png .
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > (1)
                          > >
                          http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YttMT-NfXsk/TmpFrXp6CcI/AAAAAAAAAZs/X340-P0oxl\
                          \
                          > > Q/s1600/Ku+Klux+Klan+1.JPG
                          > >
                          http://freeamericanscommunity.com/kkkstore/product_info.php?products_id=\
                          \
                          > > 54
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/103977.jpg
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" evola_as_he_is@
                          wrote:
                          > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > > J. Evola, in the aftermath of WW2, deplored the lack of a decent
                          > > rightist historiography likely to oppose and to debunk the views of
                          > > Marxist historiography. The situation has not really changed. The
                          > > domination of historical materialism is more than ever undisputed,
                          not
                          > > simply because it is the sole historical worldview allowed on media,
                          as
                          > > a dialectic and propagandistic counterpart to the current
                          > > social-political doxa, but also, in part, because an actual rightist
                          > > historiography is still lacking. Carolyn Yeager's successful efforts
                          at
                          > > looking at how history is written by some of the main
                          representatives of
                          > > the conspiracy theory, and at unearthing and cracking their
                          background,
                          > > are most welcome.
                          > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > > It is in the nature of political organisations or parties to be
                          > > infiltrated, and leftists, no matter their brand, their race, their
                          > > ethny or their religion, are experts at infiltration.
                          > > >
                          > > > > http://www.subvertednation.net/kikes-kkk-and-the-racial-divide/
                          > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > > The first part (available at
                          > >
                          http://reasonradionetwork.com/downloads/thh/VoR_The_Heretics_Hour_201101\
                          \
                          > > 31.mp3) turns out to be just as worth listening to ; in
                          particularly,
                          > > the thesis, which happens to be also spread by M. Weber of the
                          Institute
                          > > for Historical Review, of the collusion between Zionism and
                          > > National-Socialism is debunked to a large extent, to an extent which
                          > > could even be furthered. It is not, as made clear in the
                          introduction,
                          > > about misinformation, but about disinformation, a positive,
                          legitimate
                          > > and operative distinction between two terms to which overinformation
                          > > would need to be added.
                          > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "G. van der Heide"
                          wrote:
                          > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > > > The more recent broadcasts of this radio show on WO II
                          revisionism
                          > > proved to
                          > > >
                          > > > > > be of interest.
                          > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > > > "Carolyn discusses six major disinfo and conspiracy
                          specialists
                          > > who love to
                          > > >
                          > > > > > confuse Globalism with "the Nazis:"
                          > > >
                          > > > > > Alex Jones: V Campaign as resistance against "Nazi" NWO;
                          > > >
                          > > > > > Jim Marrs: How America became the Fourth Reich;
                          > > >
                          > > > > > Webster Tarpley: Ties together Britain, the US & "the Nazis;"
                          > > >
                          > > > > > David Icke: Hitler was a Rothschild and a Reptilian;
                          > > >
                          > > > > > Henry Makow: Hitler was a Rothschild, a British Agent and a
                          > > Zionist;
                          > > >
                          > > > > > Wayne Madsen: The Drew Pearson of the 21st Century."
                          > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > >
                          http://reasonradionetwork.com/20110207/the-heretics-hour-disinformation-\
                          \
                          > > on-the-internet-part-two
                          > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > >
                          > >
                          >
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                        • G. van der Heide
                          The Fez as a garment, also worn by the Arditi and later Blackshirts, is very notable.
                          Message 12 of 21 , Aug 18, 2013
                            The Fez as a garment, also worn by the Arditi and later Blackshirts, is very notable.

                            http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:QtqFNUGaxekJ:www.hickoryhammockbaptist.org/quick%2520answers/fez.html+&cd=2&hl=nl&ct=clnk&gl=be&client=firefox-a


                            To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                            From: rouesolaire@...
                            Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 16:52:29 +0000
                            Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: "Disinformation on the internet"

                             
                            About the "shriners", do not miss
                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOSt_SJkYTg . "What is the
                            Moorish-Islamic influence in America? Past and present. From
                            Moorish-Revival architect spread throughout the land, Presidents with
                            personal Qurans, and several cities with Islamic names, to secret
                            pseudo-Islamic orders. Even the name America is connected to the Arabic
                            word Amir. Secrets upon secrets."

                            President Harry Truman was a shriner:
                            http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-I3y8oaNe-gA/Ty4L0IXYGkI/AAAAAAAACXo/IRzCQhBxiI\
                            4/s1600/70918342_6efd5c8ecd_b.jpg


                            Warren Gamaliel too:
                            http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4V2qWSzPQtk/Ty4PpO_ZzvI/AAAAAAAACX4/DsHO3uN4ZY\
                            k/s1600/HardingAladdinHat.jpg


                            Gerald Ford too:
                            http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LMWWAAt9Kl0/Ty4QTUuFcpI/AAAAAAAACYA/ik8PhVP4uc\
                            0/s1600/ford_shriner.gif


                            Franklin Roosevelt too: http://www.muratshrine.org/famous.php

                            Ronald Reagan an honorary member:
                            http://www.mastermason.com/wilmettepark/pres.html

                            Some other famous individuals: http://www.kosair.com/famousshriners.html

                            Some documents about the "shriners".
                            http://masonbusters.webs.com/shrinersoathisislamic.htm
                            http://www.inplainsite.org/html/freemasonry.html#Shriners
                            http://www.studying-islam.org/forum/topic.aspx?topicid=2087
                            http://www.stichtingargus.nl/vrijmetselarij/shriners_en.html

                            Some pictures.
                            http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wLx4ZQcefgw/Ty6_sJ8BpII/AAAAAAAACYY/r0c5H37SoE\
                            M/s1600/imagesCA2C16LC.jpg

                            http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZbVeFyf-5Oo/Ty6_oXFs_OI/AAAAAAAACYQ/K6i7FqxGjZ\
                            4/s1600/jmip.jpg

                            http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9RtCOWlDY24/TqUayptqlYI/AAAAAAAAAZ8/__sKieHC4u\
                            4/s400/Luther+Burbank+1921.jpg

                            http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vtg-AL-KORAN-Temple-Shriners-Felt-FEZ-Hat-Cap-Sz-\
                            7-1-8-/00/s/MTE3MFgxNjAw/z/L60AAOxy7S5SB8M3/$%28KGrHqR,
                            !qgFHz2KvvNKBSB8M\
                            2zb%28!~~60_35.JPG
                            http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/masonicmuseum/images/Islam1915Vase2.jpg
                            http://www.islamtempleno182.org/images/IslamTemple1.jpg
                            http://thumbs2.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mxCkydPGGOhEWDKgnTnCftw.jpg
                            http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-Shriners-JEWELED-Fez-Hat-ISLAM-Greeters-S\
                            an-Francisco-Ecmo-w-Case-NICE-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/r8gAAOxyoFRR5zwH/$%28\
                            KGrHqF,
                            !n0FHdZQQ64WBR5zwHIeBg~~60_12.JPG

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                            --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" wrote:
                            >
                            > As a coincidence, the comprehensive study (in French) on the United
                            States, whose publication at
                            http://elementsdeducationraciale.wordpress.com/ we announced a few weeks
                            ago, is almost ready.
                            >
                            > We remain skeptical about the views generally expressed by
                            `White-Nationalists' (some of them hardly need to take on a Semitic
                            pseudonym to express their inner race) on the KKK. It's not really that
                            "Simon Baruch, the former Quartermaster-General of the Confederate Army,
                            and father of Bernard Baruch, was a post-Civil War member of the KKK."
                            (Jews in America today, p. 58) One of the real questions is to know why
                            some Southerners became fiercely opposed to the emancipation of Blacks
                            after the Secession War, when neither the emancipation of Blacks before
                            the war, nor the fact that there were Black slave-owners (see Black
                            Slave-owners : Free Black Slave Masters in South Carolina, 1790-1860)
                            seemed to bother them.
                            >
                            > More generally, we remain skeptical about the `aristocratic'
                            character, much-vaunted by J. Evola and others, of Southerners, for
                            reasons we have already put forward as well as in the light of "the
                            remarkable breadth of Southern Jewry's participation in the war and the
                            strength of Jewish commitment to the Confederate cause." (The Jewish
                            Confederates, p. 229), and of other studies, like Jews and the Civil
                            War: A Reader (see "Jewish Confederates"), and Myth and Southern
                            History: The Old South, Vol. 1 (see chapter 6)
                            >
                            > P.s. : the link - that to the cache - is not working.
                            >
                            >
                            > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "rouesolaire" rouesolaire@
                            wrote:
                            > >
                            > > Thank you for these additions and these explanations.
                            > >
                            > > It seems that the administrator of http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/
                            , a
                            > > so-called "white nationalist" whose pseudonym is nothing less than
                            > > "baaltanit", has an "eye" on this forum. It also seems that he
                            didn't
                            > > like my message because he has deleted his article:
                            > > http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/ .
                            > > Unfortunately for him, the webpage is still available in the
                            google's
                            > > cache
                            > >
                            (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:LuK-jUB5_O4J:wnthi\
                            \
                            > >
                            nktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/+http://wnthinktank.wo\
                            \
                            > > rdpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/&cd=1&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=fr)
                            and
                            > > a copy has been made at http://www.sendspace.com/file/lkwnzi .
                            > >
                            > >
                            > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "G. van der Heide" wrote:
                            > > >
                            > > > I thought it to be of minor importance, but I was reminded of the
                            > > pirate logo of the so-called "White Aryan Resistance"
                            > > (http://www.resist.com/updates/2009/APR_09/TT-WAR.jpg). It reads on
                            the
                            > > Wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Aryan_Resistance
                            that
                            > > it's leader was a former member of the K.K.K.
                            > > >
                            > > > Anyway, it lingers.
                            > > >
                            > > > Another associative thought, since the the K.K.K. phenomenon has
                            an
                            > > "Anglo-Saxon" ring to it: the symbolism of the Southern Cross, as
                            seen
                            > > in the flags of Australia and New Zealand among others, follows in
                            the
                            > > tradition of most "new world" colonies
                            > >
                            (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Southern_cross_appearing_on_a_nu\
                            \
                            > > mber_of_flags.PNG, http://eurekasydney.com/flag.html).
                            > > >
                            > > > To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                            > > > From: rouesolaire@
                            > > > Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 14:27:53 +0000
                            > > > Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: "Disinformation on the internet"
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > About the allusion which is made about the Ku Klux Klan at
                            > >
                            http://elementsdeducationraciale.wordpress.com/2013/05/10/canaille-du-ha\
                            \
                            > > ut-racaille-du-bas/ , there are some relevant elements on the
                            connection
                            > > between the Ku Klux Klan and Freemasonry at
                            > >
                            http://mysterybabylon-watch.blogspot.fr/2011/09/video-hidden-hands-behin\
                            \
                            > > d-albert-pikes.html (the video is no longer relevant after 11:10).
                            > > >
                            > > > The skull and bones, the symbol of piracy, is found as well in the
                            > > "Knights of the Golden Circle" as in the "Ku Klux Klan" (1) (which,
                            as
                            > > explained in the video, itself comes from the previous secret
                            society),
                            > > the "Black Legion" and the "Skull and Bones" secret society
                            > >
                            (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/1917.jpg)
                            > > and seems to have its origin in the Knights Templar (8:47). Notice
                            that
                            > > the "Knights of the Golden Circle" main symbol (5:07) drifts from
                            the
                            > > Templar cross.
                            > > >
                            > > > The members of the "Black Legion"
                            > >
                            (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Legion_%28political_movement%29), a
                            > > group that splintered from the Ku Klux Klan, wear a pirate hat with
                            a
                            > > uniform marked by a skull and bones. Here is a freemason uniform
                            almost
                            > > identical to their:
                            > >
                            http://adap2k.blogspot.fr/2009/06/antique-masonic-skull-and-bones-mask.h\
                            \
                            > > tml .
                            > > >
                            > > > Here is the logo of the "Knights of Pythias", an US secret society
                            > > related to Freemasonry:
                            > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Knightsofpythias.png . Here is a
                            > > symbol of the "Ku Klux Klan":
                            > > http://tightrope.cc/catalog/images/KKK-triangle-flag.jpg ,
                            > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/images/kkk_triangles.jpg ,
                            > >
                            http://www.independent.co.uk/migration_catalog/article5127811.ece/ALTERN\
                            \
                            > > ATES/w620/klan_outfit.jpeg.
                            > > >
                            > > > The original symbol of the Ku Klux Klan was not the Christian
                            cross
                            > > but the… Islamic Star and Crescent Moon, composed by two symbols
                            > > well known in Freemasonry, Freemasonry which certainly has itself an
                            > > Islamic origin. The Islamic Star and Crescent Moon is also part of
                            the
                            > > logo of the US Masonic order named "Shriners"
                            > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shriners.png). That's not all,
                            the
                            > > original Ku Klux Klan membership manual is called the… K(L)ORAN
                            (!):
                            > > http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/
                            > > >
                            > > > Notice the three golden circles on the wall of this room where a
                            > > meeting whose most attendants are KKK members takes place:
                            > >
                            http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/south_caroli\
                            \
                            > > na_2006.jpg ,
                            > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/sc5.jpg
                            .
                            > > >
                            > > > Now, look at these Masonic objects:
                            > > http://imageshack.us/a/img543/5498/eips.jpg ,
                            > >
                            http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/OddFellowMat\
                            \
                            > > chsafe2-2.jpg .
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > Incidentally, K+K+K = 11+11+11 = 33.
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > However, not everything is negative and some Ku Klux Klan's
                            snapshots
                            > > can be beauties:
                            > > http://www.dodaj.rs/f/1E/UI/39pSDIip/the-klansmen--johnny-reb.png .
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > (1)
                            > >
                            http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YttMT-NfXsk/TmpFrXp6CcI/AAAAAAAAAZs/X340-P0oxl\
                            \
                            > > Q/s1600/Ku+Klux+Klan+1.JPG
                            > >
                            http://freeamericanscommunity.com/kkkstore/product_info.php?products_id=\
                            \
                            > > 54
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/103977.jpg
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" evola_as_he_is@
                            wrote:
                            > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > > J. Evola, in the aftermath of WW2, deplored the lack of a decent
                            > > rightist historiography likely to oppose and to debunk the views of
                            > > Marxist historiography. The situation has not really changed. The
                            > > domination of historical materialism is more than ever undisputed,
                            not
                            > > simply because it is the sole historical worldview allowed on media,
                            as
                            > > a dialectic and propagandistic counterpart to the current
                            > > social-political doxa, but also, in part, because an actual rightist
                            > > historiography is still lacking. Carolyn Yeager's successful efforts
                            at
                            > > looking at how history is written by some of the main
                            representatives of
                            > > the conspiracy theory, and at unearthing and cracking their
                            background,
                            > > are most welcome.
                            > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > > It is in the nature of political organisations or parties to be
                            > > infiltrated, and leftists, no matter their brand, their race, their
                            > > ethny or their religion, are experts at infiltration.
                            > > >
                            > > > > http://www.subvertednation.net/kikes-kkk-and-the-racial-divide/
                            > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > > The first part (available at
                            > >
                            http://reasonradionetwork.com/downloads/thh/VoR_The_Heretics_Hour_201101\
                            \
                            > > 31.mp3) turns out to be just as worth listening to ; in
                            particularly,
                            > > the thesis, which happens to be also spread by M. Weber of the
                            Institute
                            > > for Historical Review, of the collusion between Zionism and
                            > > National-Socialism is debunked to a large extent, to an extent which
                            > > could even be furthered. It is not, as made clear in the
                            introduction,
                            > > about misinformation, but about disinformation, a positive,
                            legitimate
                            > > and operative distinction between two terms to which overinformation
                            > > would need to be added.
                            > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "G. van der Heide"
                            wrote:
                            > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > > > The more recent broadcasts of this radio show on WO II
                            revisionism
                            > > proved to
                            > > >
                            > > > > > be of interest.
                            > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > > > "Carolyn discusses six major disinfo and conspiracy
                            specialists
                            > > who love to
                            > > >
                            > > > > > confuse Globalism with "the Nazis:"
                            > > >
                            > > > > > Alex Jones: V Campaign as resistance against "Nazi" NWO;
                            > > >
                            > > > > > Jim Marrs: How America became the Fourth Reich;
                            > > >
                            > > > > > Webster Tarpley: Ties together Britain, the US & "the Nazis;"
                            > > >
                            > > > > > David Icke: Hitler was a Rothschild and a Reptilian;
                            > > >
                            > > > > > Henry Makow: Hitler was a Rothschild, a British Agent and a
                            > > Zionist;
                            > > >
                            > > > > > Wayne Madsen: The Drew Pearson of the 21st Century."
                            > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > >
                            http://reasonradionetwork.com/20110207/the-heretics-hour-disinformation-\
                            \
                            > > on-the-internet-part-two
                            > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > >
                            > >
                            >


                          • sithwalker
                            As mentioned before there is difficulty in opening the links and it will now be noted that it is time-consuming to fix them step by step, so perhaps members
                            Message 13 of 21 , Aug 18, 2013
                              As mentioned before there is difficulty in opening the links and it will now be noted that it is time-consuming to fix them step by step, so perhaps members posting a number of links would examine technologies of providing the images by other methods; such as creating a blog through Blogspot or Wordpress and posting them on said weblog. Otherwise he could, e.g., as he did before, archive the files in a ZIP or RAR and host them on a file-hosting service, but the previously mentioned method would be more durable and conducive to archival operations.
                            • rouesolaire
                              In fact, the problem can be solved by using the Rich-Text Editor. It is what I did but I copy-pasted the text in it instead of directly write the text and it
                              Message 14 of 21 , Aug 18, 2013
                                In fact, the problem can be solved by using the Rich-Text Editor. It is what I did but I copy-pasted the text in it instead of directly write the text and it didn't work correctly for this reason. I didn't know it would do that.

                                http://imageshack.us/a/img35/3764/q337.jpg/

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                                --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "sithwalker" <aaijkwd@...> wrote:
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                                > As mentioned before there is difficulty in opening the links and it will now be noted that it is time-consuming to fix them step by step, so perhaps members posting a number of links would examine technologies of providing the images by other methods; such as creating a blog through Blogspot or Wordpress and posting them on said weblog. Otherwise he could, e.g., as he did before, archive the files in a ZIP or RAR and host them on a file-hosting service, but the previously mentioned method would be more durable and conducive to archival operations.
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                              • rouesolaire
                                Occult theocracy (http://archive.org/details/OccultTheocrasy ) is a book written by Edith Starr Miller and
                                Message 15 of 21 , Aug 24, 2013
                                  "Occult theocracy" (http://archive.org/details/OccultTheocrasy) is a book written by Edith Starr Miller and Leslie Fry, published in 1933 and which can be useful for those who are new to the study of secret societies and want to have an overview of those of them which are known.

                                  Here is what is written about the first Klan (pages 497-498):
                                  "THE   KU-KLUX   KLAN

                                  (Founded 1865)

                                  The  Ku-Klux  Klan   was  the  name  of  an  American secret  association  formed  by the  Whites  of the Southern States  for  self  protection  after  the  Civil  war.

                                  It  was  started  at  1865  at  Pulaski,  Tennessee,  as  a  club  for  young  men.  The  period  of organization  of  the K.  K.  K.  lasted  from  1865  to  1868.  It  absorbed  other societies   of  similar aims   such  as  the  Knights  of  the White   Camelia,   the   White   Brotherhood,   the   White League,  the  Pale  Faces, Black Cavalry,  White  Rose,  etc.

                                  Apart  from  the  protection  of  whites,  one  of  its  chief aims  was  opposition  to  a  government based  on  negro suffrage  such  as  the   North  wanted  to  impose  on  the South.

                                  The  Klan  denominated  the  entire  South  as  the  Invisible  Empire  under the  rule  of a  Grand Wizard  :  General N.  B.  Forrest.  Each  state  was  a  Realm  under  a  Grand Dragon;  each  county  a Province  under  a  Grand  Giant, etc.

                                  The   avowed   principles   were   the   maintenance   of peace  and  order,  of  the  laws  of  God,  of the  political and  social  supremacy  of  the  white  race  and  also  the prevention  of  the intermingling  of  the  races.

                                  It  showed  strenuous  opposition  to  the  "  scallawags  " and   "  carpet-baggers  "   as   they   called the   Northern Whites  who  incited  the   negroes  to  commit  all  kinds of  depredations  against  the Whites  of  the  South.

                                  In  1871  and  1872,  the  United  States  Congress enacted a  series  of  "  Force  Laws  "  to  break the  K.  K.  K.  By that  time  however  the  negro  was  once  more  subdued and  the  K.  K.  K.'s  central organization  was  disbanded. Its   spirit   however  survived  and  reasserted  itself  in 1915  when  it  was  revived."



                                  About the second Klan (page 607-612):
                                  "THE   KNIGHTS   OF   THE   KU-KLUX   KLAN
                                  (Founded 1915)

                                  The   patriotic   nationalist   Order   of  the   Knights   of the  Ku-Klux  Klan  was  founded  in  Georgia on  December   4,    1915,   by  William  Joseph  Simmons,   a   Royal Arch Mason  and   a   member  of   the   Great   Order   of Knight  Templars. (1) [...]

                                  (1) The  Ku-Klux  Klan,   Hearings   before  the   Committee   of Rules,   House   of   Representatives, Sixty-seventh   Congress, U.  S.  A.  (1) p. 97."




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                                  --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" wrote:
                                  >
                                  > As a coincidence, the comprehensive study (in French) on the United States, whose publication at http://elementsdeducationraciale.wordpress.com/ we announced a few weeks ago, is almost ready.
                                  >
                                  > We remain skeptical about the views generally expressed by `White-Nationalists' (some of them hardly need to take on a Semitic pseudonym to express their inner race) on the KKK. It's not really that "Simon Baruch, the former Quartermaster-General of the Confederate Army, and father of Bernard Baruch, was a post-Civil War member of the KKK." (Jews in America today, p. 58) One of the real questions is to know why some Southerners became fiercely opposed to the emancipation of Blacks after the Secession War, when neither the emancipation of Blacks before the war, nor the fact that there were Black slave-owners (see Black Slave-owners : Free Black Slave Masters in South Carolina, 1790-1860) seemed to bother them.
                                  >
                                  > More generally, we remain skeptical about the `aristocratic' character, much-vaunted by J. Evola and others, of Southerners, for reasons we have already put forward as well as in the light of "the remarkable breadth of Southern Jewry's participation in the war and the strength of Jewish commitment to the Confederate cause." (The Jewish Confederates, p. 229), and of other studies, like Jews and the Civil War: A Reader (see "Jewish Confederates"), and Myth and Southern History: The Old South, Vol. 1 (see chapter 6)
                                  >
                                  > P.s. : the link - that to the cache - is not working.
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "rouesolaire" rouesolaire@ wrote:
                                  > >
                                  > > Thank you for these additions and these explanations.
                                  > >
                                  > > It seems that the administrator of http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/ , a
                                  > > so-called "white nationalist" whose pseudonym is nothing less than
                                  > > "baaltanit", has an "eye" on this forum. It also seems that he didn't
                                  > > like my message because he has deleted his article:
                                  > > http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/ .
                                  > > Unfortunately for him, the webpage is still available in the google's
                                  > > cache
                                  > > (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:LuK-jUB5_O4J:wnthi\
                                  > > nktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/+http://wnthinktank.wo\
                                  > > rdpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/&cd=1&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=fr) and
                                  > > a copy has been made at http://www.sendspace.com/file/lkwnzi .
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "G. van der Heide" wrote:
                                  > > >
                                  > > > I thought it to be of minor importance, but I was reminded of the
                                  > > pirate logo of the so-called "White Aryan Resistance"
                                  > > (http://www.resist.com/updates/2009/APR_09/TT-WAR.jpg). It reads on the
                                  > > Wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Aryan_Resistance that
                                  > > it's leader was a former member of the K.K.K.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Anyway, it lingers.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Another associative thought, since the the K.K.K. phenomenon has an
                                  > > "Anglo-Saxon" ring to it: the symbolism of the Southern Cross, as seen
                                  > > in the flags of Australia and New Zealand among others, follows in the
                                  > > tradition of most "new world" colonies
                                  > > (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Southern_cross_appearing_on_a_nu\
                                  > > mber_of_flags.PNG, http://eurekasydney.com/flag.html).
                                  > > >
                                  > > > To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                  > > > From: rouesolaire@
                                  > > > Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 14:27:53 +0000
                                  > > > Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: "Disinformation on the internet"
                                  > > >
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                                  > > >
                                  > > > About the allusion which is made about the Ku Klux Klan at
                                  > > http://elementsdeducationraciale.wordpress.com/2013/05/10/canaille-du-ha\
                                  > > ut-racaille-du-bas/ , there are some relevant elements on the connection
                                  > > between the Ku Klux Klan and Freemasonry at
                                  > > http://mysterybabylon-watch.blogspot.fr/2011/09/video-hidden-hands-behin\
                                  > > d-albert-pikes.html (the video is no longer relevant after 11:10).
                                  > > >
                                  > > > The skull and bones, the symbol of piracy, is found as well in the
                                  > > "Knights of the Golden Circle" as in the "Ku Klux Klan" (1) (which, as
                                  > > explained in the video, itself comes from the previous secret society),
                                  > > the "Black Legion" and the "Skull and Bones" secret society
                                  > > (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/1917.jpg)
                                  > > and seems to have its origin in the Knights Templar (8:47). Notice that
                                  > > the "Knights of the Golden Circle" main symbol (5:07) drifts from the
                                  > > Templar cross.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > The members of the "Black Legion"
                                  > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Legion_%28political_movement%29), a
                                  > > group that splintered from the Ku Klux Klan, wear a pirate hat with a
                                  > > uniform marked by a skull and bones. Here is a freemason uniform almost
                                  > > identical to their:
                                  > > http://adap2k.blogspot.fr/2009/06/antique-masonic-skull-and-bones-mask.h\
                                  > > tml .
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Here is the logo of the "Knights of Pythias", an US secret society
                                  > > related to Freemasonry:
                                  > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Knightsofpythias.png . Here is a
                                  > > symbol of the "Ku Klux Klan":
                                  > > http://tightrope.cc/catalog/images/KKK-triangle-flag.jpg ,
                                  > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/images/kkk_triangles.jpg ,
                                  > > http://www.independent.co.uk/migration_catalog/article5127811.ece/ALTERN\
                                  > > ATES/w620/klan_outfit.jpeg.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > The original symbol of the Ku Klux Klan was not the Christian cross
                                  > > but the� Islamic Star and Crescent Moon, composed by two symbols
                                  > > well known in Freemasonry, Freemasonry which certainly has itself an
                                  > > Islamic origin. The Islamic Star and Crescent Moon is also part of the
                                  > > logo of the US Masonic order named "Shriners"
                                  > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shriners.png). That's not all, the
                                  > > original Ku Klux Klan membership manual is called the� K(L)ORAN (!):
                                  > > http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Notice the three golden circles on the wall of this room where a
                                  > > meeting whose most attendants are KKK members takes place:
                                  > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/south_caroli\
                                  > > na_2006.jpg ,
                                  > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/sc5.jpg .
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Now, look at these Masonic objects:
                                  > > http://imageshack.us/a/img543/5498/eips.jpg ,
                                  > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/OddFellowMat\
                                  > > chsafe2-2.jpg .
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Incidentally, K+K+K = 11+11+11 = 33.
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > > However, not everything is negative and some Ku Klux Klan's snapshots
                                  > > can be beauties:
                                  > > http://www.dodaj.rs/f/1E/UI/39pSDIip/the-klansmen--johnny-reb.png .
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > > (1)
                                  > > http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YttMT-NfXsk/TmpFrXp6CcI/AAAAAAAAAZs/X340-P0oxl\
                                  > > Q/s1600/Ku+Klux+Klan+1.JPG
                                  > > http://freeamericanscommunity.com/kkkstore/product_info.php?products_id=\
                                  > > 54
                                  > > >
                                  > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/103977.jpg
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" evola_as_he_is@ wrote:
                                  > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > > > J. Evola, in the aftermath of WW2, deplored the lack of a decent
                                  > > rightist historiography likely to oppose and to debunk the views of
                                  > > Marxist historiography. The situation has not really changed. The
                                  > > domination of historical materialism is more than ever undisputed, not
                                  > > simply because it is the sole historical worldview allowed on media, as
                                  > > a dialectic and propagandistic counterpart to the current
                                  > > social-political doxa, but also, in part, because an actual rightist
                                  > > historiography is still lacking. Carolyn Yeager's successful efforts at
                                  > > looking at how history is written by some of the main representatives of
                                  > > the conspiracy theory, and at unearthing and cracking their background,
                                  > > are most welcome.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > > > It is in the nature of political organisations or parties to be
                                  > > infiltrated, and leftists, no matter their brand, their race, their
                                  > > ethny or their religion, are experts at infiltration.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > > http://www.subvertednation.net/kikes-kkk-and-the-racial-divide/
                                  > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > > > The first part (available at
                                  > > http://reasonradionetwork.com/downloads/thh/VoR_The_Heretics_Hour_201101\
                                  > > 31.mp3) turns out to be just as worth listening to ; in particularly,
                                  > > the thesis, which happens to be also spread by M. Weber of the Institute
                                  > > for Historical Review, of the collusion between Zionism and
                                  > > National-Socialism is debunked to a large extent, to an extent which
                                  > > could even be furthered. It is not, as made clear in the introduction,
                                  > > about misinformation, but about disinformation, a positive, legitimate
                                  > > and operative distinction between two terms to which overinformation
                                  > > would need to be added.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "G. van der Heide" wrote:
                                  > > >
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > > > > The more recent broadcasts of this radio show on WO II revisionism
                                  > > proved to
                                  > > >
                                  > > > > > be of interest.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > > > > "Carolyn discusses six major disinfo and conspiracy specialists
                                  > > who love to
                                  > > >
                                  > > > > > confuse Globalism with "the Nazis:"
                                  > > >
                                  > > > > > Alex Jones: V Campaign as resistance against "Nazi" NWO;
                                  > > >
                                  > > > > > Jim Marrs: How America became the Fourth Reich;
                                  > > >
                                  > > > > > Webster Tarpley: Ties together Britain, the US & "the Nazis;"
                                  > > >
                                  > > > > > David Icke: Hitler was a Rothschild and a Reptilian;
                                  > > >
                                  > > > > > Henry Makow: Hitler was a Rothschild, a British Agent and a
                                  > > Zionist;
                                  > > >
                                  > > > > > Wayne Madsen: The Drew Pearson of the 21st Century."
                                  > > >
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > http://reasonradionetwork.com/20110207/the-heretics-hour-disinformation-\
                                  > > on-the-internet-part-two
                                  > > >
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > >
                                  >
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                                • Evola
                                  This somehow hagiographical piece was written in 1933, and the belonging of the Jew Simon Baruch, the former Quartermaster-General of the Confederate Army, and
                                  Message 16 of 21 , Aug 24, 2013
                                    This somehow hagiographical piece was written in 1933, and the belonging of the Jew Simon Baruch, the former Quartermaster-General of the Confederate Army, and father of Bernard Baruch, to the post-Civil War Ku Klux Klan, the first KKK, may not have been of public knowledge yet. The author may not have been aware either that the pre-Civil war emancipation of Blacks did not seem to bother Southerners (see message 1788)

                                    So little is known on the first Ku Klux Klan that, out of all the notorious so-called secret societies, it may be considered as the only actual secret one.


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                                    --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "rouesolaire" <rouesolaire@...> wrote:
                                    >
                                    > "Occult theocracy" (http://archive.org/details/OccultTheocrasy
                                    > <http://archive.org/details/OccultTheocrasy> ) is a book written by
                                    > Edith Starr Miller and Leslie Fry, published in 1933 and which can be
                                    > useful for those who are new to the study of secret societies and want
                                    > to have an overview of those of them which are known.
                                    >
                                    > Here is what is written about the first Klan (pages 497-498):
                                    > "THE KU-KLUX KLAN
                                    > (Founded 1865)
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > The Ku-Klux Klan was the name of an American secret
                                    > association formed by the Whites of the Southern States for self
                                    > protection after the Civil war.
                                    >
                                    > It was started at 1865 at Pulaski, Tennessee, as a club for
                                    > young men. The period of organization of the K. K. K. lasted
                                    > from 1865 to 1868. It absorbed other societies of similar aims
                                    > such as the Knights of the White Camelia, the White
                                    > Brotherhood, the White League, the Pale Faces, Black Cavalry,
                                    > White Rose, etc.
                                    >
                                    > Apart from the protection of whites, one of its chief aims was
                                    > opposition to a government based on negro suffrage such as the
                                    > North wanted to impose on the South.
                                    >
                                    > The Klan denominated the entire South as the Invisible Empire
                                    > under the rule of a Grand Wizard : General N. B. Forrest. Each
                                    > state was a Realm under a Grand Dragon; each county a Province
                                    > under a Grand Giant, etc.
                                    >
                                    > The avowed principles were the maintenance of peace and
                                    > order, of the laws of God, of the political and social
                                    > supremacy of the white race and also the prevention of the
                                    > intermingling of the races.
                                    >
                                    > It showed strenuous opposition to the " scallawags " and "
                                    > carpet-baggers " as they called the Northern Whites who
                                    > incited the negroes to commit all kinds of depredations against
                                    > the Whites of the South.
                                    >
                                    > In 1871 and 1872, the United States Congress enacted a series
                                    > of " Force Laws " to break the K. K. K. By that time however
                                    > the negro was once more subdued and the K. K. K.'s central
                                    > organization was disbanded. Its spirit however survived and
                                    > reasserted itself in 1915 when it was revived."
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > About the second Klan (page 607-612):
                                    > "THE KNIGHTS OF THE KU-KLUX KLAN
                                    > (Founded 1915)
                                    > The patriotic nationalist Order of the Knights of the
                                    > Ku-Klux Klan was founded in Georgia on December 4, 1915, by
                                    > William Joseph Simmons, a Royal Arch Mason and a member of
                                    > the Great Order of Knight Templars. (1) [...]
                                    > (1) The Ku-Klux Klan, Hearings before the Committee of Rules,
                                    > House of Representatives, Sixty-seventh Congress, U. S. A. (1)
                                    > p. 97."
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" wrote:
                                    > >
                                    > > As a coincidence, the comprehensive study (in French) on the United
                                    > States, whose publication at
                                    > http://elementsdeducationraciale.wordpress.com/ we announced a few weeks
                                    > ago, is almost ready.
                                    > >
                                    > > We remain skeptical about the views generally expressed by
                                    > `White-Nationalists' (some of them hardly need to take on a Semitic
                                    > pseudonym to express their inner race) on the KKK. It's not really that
                                    > "Simon Baruch, the former Quartermaster-General of the Confederate Army,
                                    > and father of Bernard Baruch, was a post-Civil War member of the KKK."
                                    > (Jews in America today, p. 58) One of the real questions is to know why
                                    > some Southerners became fiercely opposed to the emancipation of Blacks
                                    > after the Secession War, when neither the emancipation of Blacks before
                                    > the war, nor the fact that there were Black slave-owners (see Black
                                    > Slave-owners : Free Black Slave Masters in South Carolina, 1790-1860)
                                    > seemed to bother them.
                                    > >
                                    > > More generally, we remain skeptical about the `aristocratic'
                                    > character, much-vaunted by J. Evola and others, of Southerners, for
                                    > reasons we have already put forward as well as in the light of "the
                                    > remarkable breadth of Southern Jewry's participation in the war and the
                                    > strength of Jewish commitment to the Confederate cause." (The Jewish
                                    > Confederates, p. 229), and of other studies, like Jews and the Civil
                                    > War: A Reader (see "Jewish Confederates"), and Myth and Southern
                                    > History: The Old South, Vol. 1 (see chapter 6)
                                    > >
                                    > > P.s. : the link - that to the cache - is not working.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "rouesolaire" rouesolaire@
                                    > wrote:
                                    > > >
                                    > > > Thank you for these additions and these explanations.
                                    > > >
                                    > > > It seems that the administrator of http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/
                                    > , a
                                    > > > so-called "white nationalist" whose pseudonym is nothing less than
                                    > > > "baaltanit", has an "eye" on this forum. It also seems that he
                                    > didn't
                                    > > > like my message because he has deleted his article:
                                    > > > http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/ .
                                    > > > Unfortunately for him, the webpage is still available in the
                                    > google's
                                    > > > cache
                                    > > >
                                    > (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:LuK-jUB5_O4J:wnthi\
                                    > \
                                    > > >
                                    > nktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/+http://wnthinktank.wo\
                                    > \
                                    > > > rdpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/&cd=1&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=fr)
                                    > and
                                    > > > a copy has been made at http://www.sendspace.com/file/lkwnzi .
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "G. van der Heide" wrote:
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > I thought it to be of minor importance, but I was reminded of the
                                    > > > pirate logo of the so-called "White Aryan Resistance"
                                    > > > (http://www.resist.com/updates/2009/APR_09/TT-WAR.jpg). It reads on
                                    > the
                                    > > > Wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Aryan_Resistance
                                    > that
                                    > > > it's leader was a former member of the K.K.K.
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > Anyway, it lingers.
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > Another associative thought, since the the K.K.K. phenomenon has
                                    > an
                                    > > > "Anglo-Saxon" ring to it: the symbolism of the Southern Cross, as
                                    > seen
                                    > > > in the flags of Australia and New Zealand among others, follows in
                                    > the
                                    > > > tradition of most "new world" colonies
                                    > > >
                                    > (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Southern_cross_appearing_on_a_nu\
                                    > \
                                    > > > mber_of_flags.PNG, http://eurekasydney.com/flag.html).
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                    > > > > From: rouesolaire@
                                    > > > > Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 14:27:53 +0000
                                    > > > > Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: "Disinformation on the internet"
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > About the allusion which is made about the Ku Klux Klan at
                                    > > >
                                    > http://elementsdeducationraciale.wordpress.com/2013/05/10/canaille-du-ha\
                                    > \
                                    > > > ut-racaille-du-bas/ , there are some relevant elements on the
                                    > connection
                                    > > > between the Ku Klux Klan and Freemasonry at
                                    > > >
                                    > http://mysterybabylon-watch.blogspot.fr/2011/09/video-hidden-hands-behin\
                                    > \
                                    > > > d-albert-pikes.html (the video is no longer relevant after 11:10).
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > The skull and bones, the symbol of piracy, is found as well in the
                                    > > > "Knights of the Golden Circle" as in the "Ku Klux Klan" (1) (which,
                                    > as
                                    > > > explained in the video, itself comes from the previous secret
                                    > society),
                                    > > > the "Black Legion" and the "Skull and Bones" secret society
                                    > > >
                                    > (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/1917.jpg)
                                    > > > and seems to have its origin in the Knights Templar (8:47). Notice
                                    > that
                                    > > > the "Knights of the Golden Circle" main symbol (5:07) drifts from
                                    > the
                                    > > > Templar cross.
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > The members of the "Black Legion"
                                    > > >
                                    > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Legion_%28political_movement%29), a
                                    > > > group that splintered from the Ku Klux Klan, wear a pirate hat with
                                    > a
                                    > > > uniform marked by a skull and bones. Here is a freemason uniform
                                    > almost
                                    > > > identical to their:
                                    > > >
                                    > http://adap2k.blogspot.fr/2009/06/antique-masonic-skull-and-bones-mask.h\
                                    > \
                                    > > > tml .
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > Here is the logo of the "Knights of Pythias", an US secret society
                                    > > > related to Freemasonry:
                                    > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Knightsofpythias.png . Here is a
                                    > > > symbol of the "Ku Klux Klan":
                                    > > > http://tightrope.cc/catalog/images/KKK-triangle-flag.jpg ,
                                    > > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/images/kkk_triangles.jpg ,
                                    > > >
                                    > http://www.independent.co.uk/migration_catalog/article5127811.ece/ALTERN\
                                    > \
                                    > > > ATES/w620/klan_outfit.jpeg.
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > The original symbol of the Ku Klux Klan was not the Christian
                                    > cross
                                    > > > but the� Islamic Star and Crescent Moon, composed by two
                                    > symbols
                                    > > > well known in Freemasonry, Freemasonry which certainly has itself an
                                    > > > Islamic origin. The Islamic Star and Crescent Moon is also part of
                                    > the
                                    > > > logo of the US Masonic order named "Shriners"
                                    > > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shriners.png). That's not all,
                                    > the
                                    > > > original Ku Klux Klan membership manual is called the� K(L)ORAN
                                    > (!):
                                    > > > http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > Notice the three golden circles on the wall of this room where a
                                    > > > meeting whose most attendants are KKK members takes place:
                                    > > >
                                    > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/south_caroli\
                                    > \
                                    > > > na_2006.jpg ,
                                    > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/sc5.jpg
                                    > .
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > Now, look at these Masonic objects:
                                    > > > http://imageshack.us/a/img543/5498/eips.jpg ,
                                    > > >
                                    > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/OddFellowMat\
                                    > \
                                    > > > chsafe2-2.jpg .
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > Incidentally, K+K+K = 11+11+11 = 33.
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > However, not everything is negative and some Ku Klux Klan's
                                    > snapshots
                                    > > > can be beauties:
                                    > > > http://www.dodaj.rs/f/1E/UI/39pSDIip/the-klansmen--johnny-reb.png .
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > (1)
                                    > > >
                                    > http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YttMT-NfXsk/TmpFrXp6CcI/AAAAAAAAAZs/X340-P0oxl\
                                    > \
                                    > > > Q/s1600/Ku+Klux+Klan+1.JPG
                                    > > >
                                    > http://freeamericanscommunity.com/kkkstore/product_info.php?products_id=\
                                    > \
                                    > > > 54
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/103977.jpg
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" evola_as_he_is@
                                    > wrote:
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > > J. Evola, in the aftermath of WW2, deplored the lack of a decent
                                    > > > rightist historiography likely to oppose and to debunk the views of
                                    > > > Marxist historiography. The situation has not really changed. The
                                    > > > domination of historical materialism is more than ever undisputed,
                                    > not
                                    > > > simply because it is the sole historical worldview allowed on media,
                                    > as
                                    > > > a dialectic and propagandistic counterpart to the current
                                    > > > social-political doxa, but also, in part, because an actual rightist
                                    > > > historiography is still lacking. Carolyn Yeager's successful efforts
                                    > at
                                    > > > looking at how history is written by some of the main
                                    > representatives of
                                    > > > the conspiracy theory, and at unearthing and cracking their
                                    > background,
                                    > > > are most welcome.
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > > It is in the nature of political organisations or parties to be
                                    > > > infiltrated, and leftists, no matter their brand, their race, their
                                    > > > ethny or their religion, are experts at infiltration.
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > > http://www.subvertednation.net/kikes-kkk-and-the-racial-divide/
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > > The first part (available at
                                    > > >
                                    > http://reasonradionetwork.com/downloads/thh/VoR_The_Heretics_Hour_201101\
                                    > \
                                    > > > 31.mp3) turns out to be just as worth listening to ; in
                                    > particularly,
                                    > > > the thesis, which happens to be also spread by M. Weber of the
                                    > Institute
                                    > > > for Historical Review, of the collusion between Zionism and
                                    > > > National-Socialism is debunked to a large extent, to an extent which
                                    > > > could even be furthered. It is not, as made clear in the
                                    > introduction,
                                    > > > about misinformation, but about disinformation, a positive,
                                    > legitimate
                                    > > > and operative distinction between two terms to which overinformation
                                    > > > would need to be added.
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "G. van der Heide"
                                    > wrote:
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > > > The more recent broadcasts of this radio show on WO II
                                    > revisionism
                                    > > > proved to
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > > > be of interest.
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > > > "Carolyn discusses six major disinfo and conspiracy
                                    > specialists
                                    > > > who love to
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > > > confuse Globalism with "the Nazis:"
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > > > Alex Jones: V Campaign as resistance against "Nazi" NWO;
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > > > Jim Marrs: How America became the Fourth Reich;
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > > > Webster Tarpley: Ties together Britain, the US & "the Nazis;"
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > > > David Icke: Hitler was a Rothschild and a Reptilian;
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > > > Henry Makow: Hitler was a Rothschild, a British Agent and a
                                    > > > Zionist;
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > > > Wayne Madsen: The Drew Pearson of the 21st Century."
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > http://reasonradionetwork.com/20110207/the-heretics-hour-disinformation-\
                                    > \
                                    > > > on-the-internet-part-two
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > >
                                    >
                                  • rouesolaire
                                    http://www.kkklan.com/historical.htm Here are informative articles about the KKK, such as Negro Members of the Ku Klux Klan or Foreign Branches of the Ku
                                    Message 17 of 21 , Oct 8 9:30 AM
                                      http://www.kkklan.com/historical.htm

                                      Here are informative articles about the KKK, such as "Negro Members of the Ku Klux Klan" or "Foreign Branches of the Ku Klux Klan" where we learn that "    A chapter of the American Ku Klux Klan was founded in Germany during 1921. Two Americans, father and son, were the chief founders of the German Klan. Both men spoke fluent German and were of German descent. The father was Rev. Otto Strohschein, a naturalizes American citizen of German birth, his son's name was Gotthard, also a naturalized citizen.

                                          The Strohscheins, with the help of  a native born American, Donald B. Gray, went to Berlin in 1921. There, according to German police, they set about organizing the order known as the "Knights of the Fiery Cross". Which was patterned after the American KKK. The order was founded in February 1921. There were three degrees of membership. (The American Klan, itself, had not yet introduced the fourth degree of the KKK at this time.) The governing body of each Klavern consisted of 14 members know as "the Senate". There were three Klaverns in the various sections of Berlin, known as the Viking, Germania, and Heimdal; numbering altogether about 400 members. The provincial Klaverns were believed to bring the total to more then 1,000.

                                          The three Americans tried to make the German Klan the exact counterpart of the KKK at home. It is believed, but unconfirmed, that they even made a trip back to America to bring about greater affiliations between the two orders. The German Klansmen soon objected to too much Americanization and practically threw the Americans out. Gray returned to the United States in the summer of 1925, and the Strohscheins went to Silesia to form new Klaverns there.

                                          Richard Brant soon took over the order as the supreme leader and gave himself the title of "Wotan". Brant held an important position in the Siemens Electrical Works. He is also the one who wrote the oath of knighthood for the German Klan. It is interesting that part of that oath included this Masonic-like passage: "If, however, I should betray the aims of this order, I will take upon myself the most frightful martyrdom. All my bones shall be broken, my eyes shall be gouged out, my body drawn, quartered, and thrown to the vultures."

                                          That should have attracted a multitude of new members.

                                          At the meetings Klansmen wore white robes and hoods. In each Klavern there was a small table on which stood a small death's head and a sword. On the wall hung the flag of Imperial Germany and the flag of the (then) present German government. Initiation ceremonies were conducted at the Klaverns, but sometimes the Knights would take the prospective new members to the forest at night and conduct the ritual with blazing torches.

                                          The German Ku Klux Klan lasted until the early 1930's, when it was forced to disband by the newly installed Nazi government. Once established the Nazis began to persecute and even outlaw all organizations that were not founded or totally controlled by them. Thus ended the German Ku Klux Klan.

                                          Illustration below: Dated 1935, The German Klan, like Christ, had its cross to bear. Caught between the carnage of W.W.I and Hitler gearing up for W.W.II, the German Klan was crucified by the Nazis.


                                      http://www.kkklan.com/foreig4.gif "



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                                      ---In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, <evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

                                      This somehow hagiographical piece was written in 1933, and the belonging of the Jew Simon Baruch, the former Quartermaster-General of the Confederate Army, and father of Bernard Baruch, to the post-Civil War Ku Klux Klan, the first KKK, may not have been of public knowledge yet. The author may not have been aware either that the pre-Civil war emancipation of Blacks did not seem to bother Southerners (see message 1788)

                                      So little is known on the first Ku Klux Klan that, out of all the notorious so-called secret societies, it may be considered as the only actual secret one.


                                      --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "rouesolaire" <rouesolaire@...> wrote:
                                      >
                                      > "Occult theocracy" (http://archive.org/details/OccultTheocrasy
                                      > <http://archive.org/details/OccultTheocrasy> ) is a book written by
                                      > Edith Starr Miller and Leslie Fry, published in 1933 and which can be
                                      > useful for those who are new to the study of secret societies and want
                                      > to have an overview of those of them which are known.
                                      >
                                      > Here is what is written about the first Klan (pages 497-498):
                                      > "THE KU-KLUX KLAN
                                      > (Founded 1865)
                                      >
                                      >
                                      > The Ku-Klux Klan was the name of an American secret
                                      > association formed by the Whites of the Southern States for self
                                      > protection after the Civil war.
                                      >
                                      > It was started at 1865 at Pulaski, Tennessee, as a club for
                                      > young men. The period of organization of the K. K. K. lasted
                                      > from 1865 to 1868. It absorbed other societies of similar aims
                                      > such as the Knights of the White Camelia, the White
                                      > Brotherhood, the White League, the Pale Faces, Black Cavalry,
                                      > White Rose, etc.
                                      >
                                      > Apart from the protection of whites, one of its chief aims was
                                      > opposition to a government based on negro suffrage such as the
                                      > North wanted to impose on the South.
                                      >
                                      > The Klan denominated the entire South as the Invisible Empire
                                      > under the rule of a Grand Wizard : General N. B. Forrest. Each
                                      > state was a Realm under a Grand Dragon; each county a Province
                                      > under a Grand Giant, etc.
                                      >
                                      > The avowed principles were the maintenance of peace and
                                      > order, of the laws of God, of the political and social
                                      > supremacy of the white race and also the prevention of the
                                      > intermingling of the races.
                                      >
                                      > It showed strenuous opposition to the " scallawags " and "
                                      > carpet-baggers " as they called the Northern Whites who
                                      > incited the negroes to commit all kinds of depredations against
                                      > the Whites of the South.
                                      >
                                      > In 1871 and 1872, the United States Congress enacted a series
                                      > of " Force Laws " to break the K. K. K. By that time however
                                      > the negro was once more subdued and the K. K. K.'s central
                                      > organization was disbanded. Its spirit however survived and
                                      > reasserted itself in 1915 when it was revived."
                                      >
                                      >
                                      > About the second Klan (page 607-612):
                                      > "THE KNIGHTS OF THE KU-KLUX KLAN
                                      > (Founded 1915)
                                      > The patriotic nationalist Order of the Knights of the
                                      > Ku-Klux Klan was founded in Georgia on December 4, 1915, by
                                      > William Joseph Simmons, a Royal Arch Mason and a member of
                                      > the Great Order of Knight Templars. (1) [...]
                                      > (1) The Ku-Klux Klan, Hearings before the Committee of Rules,
                                      > House of Representatives, Sixty-seventh Congress, U. S. A. (1)
                                      > p. 97."
                                      >
                                      >
                                      >
                                      >
                                      > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" wrote:
                                      > >
                                      > > As a coincidence, the comprehensive study (in French) on the United
                                      > States, whose publication at
                                      > http://elementsdeducationraciale.wordpress.com/ we announced a few weeks
                                      > ago, is almost ready.
                                      > >
                                      > > We remain skeptical about the views generally expressed by
                                      > `White-Nationalists' (some of them hardly need to take on a Semitic
                                      > pseudonym to express their inner race) on the KKK. It's not really that
                                      > "Simon Baruch, the former Quartermaster-General of the Confederate Army,
                                      > and father of Bernard Baruch, was a post-Civil War member of the KKK."
                                      > (Jews in America today, p. 58) One of the real questions is to know why
                                      > some Southerners became fiercely opposed to the emancipation of Blacks
                                      > after the Secession War, when neither the emancipation of Blacks before
                                      > the war, nor the fact that there were Black slave-owners (see Black
                                      > Slave-owners : Free Black Slave Masters in South Carolina, 1790-1860)
                                      > seemed to bother them.
                                      > >
                                      > > More generally, we remain skeptical about the `aristocratic'
                                      > character, much-vaunted by J. Evola and others, of Southerners, for
                                      > reasons we have already put forward as well as in the light of "the
                                      > remarkable breadth of Southern Jewry's participation in the war and the
                                      > strength of Jewish commitment to the Confederate cause." (The Jewish
                                      > Confederates, p. 229), and of other studies, like Jews and the Civil
                                      > War: A Reader (see "Jewish Confederates"), and Myth and Southern
                                      > History: The Old South, Vol. 1 (see chapter 6)
                                      > >
                                      > > P.s. : the link - that to the cache - is not working.
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "rouesolaire" rouesolaire@
                                      > wrote:
                                      > > >
                                      > > > Thank you for these additions and these explanations.
                                      > > >
                                      > > > It seems that the administrator of http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/
                                      > , a
                                      > > > so-called "white nationalist" whose pseudonym is nothing less than
                                      > > > "baaltanit", has an "eye" on this forum. It also seems that he
                                      > didn't
                                      > > > like my message because he has deleted his article:
                                      > > > http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/ .
                                      > > > Unfortunately for him, the webpage is still available in the
                                      > google's
                                      > > > cache
                                      > > >
                                      > (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:LuK-jUB5_O4J:wnthi\
                                      > \
                                      > > >
                                      > nktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/+http://wnthinktank.wo\
                                      > \
                                      > > > rdpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/&cd=1&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=fr)
                                      > and
                                      > > > a copy has been made at http://www.sendspace.com/file/lkwnzi .
                                      > > >
                                      > > >
                                      > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "G. van der Heide" wrote:
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > I thought it to be of minor importance, but I was reminded of the
                                      > > > pirate logo of the so-called "White Aryan Resistance"
                                      > > > (http://www.resist.com/updates/2009/APR_09/TT-WAR.jpg). It reads on
                                      > the
                                      > > > Wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Aryan_Resistance
                                      > that
                                      > > > it's leader was a former member of the K.K.K.
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > Anyway, it lingers.
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > Another associative thought, since the the K.K.K. phenomenon has
                                      > an
                                      > > > "Anglo-Saxon" ring to it: the symbolism of the Southern Cross, as
                                      > seen
                                      > > > in the flags of Australia and New Zealand among others, follows in
                                      > the
                                      > > > tradition of most "new world" colonies
                                      > > >
                                      > (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Southern_cross_appearing_on_a_nu\
                                      > \
                                      > > > mber_of_flags.PNG, http://eurekasydney.com/flag.html).
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                      > > > > From: rouesolaire@
                                      > > > > Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 14:27:53 +0000
                                      > > > > Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: "Disinformation on the internet"
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > About the allusion which is made about the Ku Klux Klan at
                                      > > >
                                      > http://elementsdeducationraciale.wordpress.com/2013/05/10/canaille-du-ha\
                                      > \
                                      > > > ut-racaille-du-bas/ , there are some relevant elements on the
                                      > connection
                                      > > > between the Ku Klux Klan and Freemasonry at
                                      > > >
                                      > http://mysterybabylon-watch.blogspot.fr/2011/09/video-hidden-hands-behin\
                                      > \
                                      > > > d-albert-pikes.html (the video is no longer relevant after 11:10).
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > The skull and bones, the symbol of piracy, is found as well in the
                                      > > > "Knights of the Golden Circle" as in the "Ku Klux Klan" (1) (which,
                                      > as
                                      > > > explained in the video, itself comes from the previous secret
                                      > society),
                                      > > > the "Black Legion" and the "Skull and Bones" secret society
                                      > > >
                                      > (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/1917.jpg)
                                      > > > and seems to have its origin in the Knights Templar (8:47). Notice
                                      > that
                                      > > > the "Knights of the Golden Circle" main symbol (5:07) drifts from
                                      > the
                                      > > > Templar cross.
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > The members of the "Black Legion"
                                      > > >
                                      > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Legion_%28political_movement%29), a
                                      > > > group that splintered from the Ku Klux Klan, wear a pirate hat with
                                      > a
                                      > > > uniform marked by a skull and bones. Here is a freemason uniform
                                      > almost
                                      > > > identical to their:
                                      > > >
                                      > http://adap2k.blogspot.fr/2009/06/antique-masonic-skull-and-bones-mask.h\
                                      > \
                                      > > > tml .
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > Here is the logo of the "Knights of Pythias", an US secret society
                                      > > > related to Freemasonry:
                                      > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Knightsofpythias.png . Here is a
                                      > > > symbol of the "Ku Klux Klan":
                                      > > > http://tightrope.cc/catalog/images/KKK-triangle-flag.jpg ,
                                      > > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/images/kkk_triangles.jpg ,
                                      > > >
                                      > http://www.independent.co.uk/migration_catalog/article5127811.ece/ALTERN\
                                      > \
                                      > > > ATES/w620/klan_outfit.jpeg.
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > The original symbol of the Ku Klux Klan was not the Christian
                                      > cross
                                      > > > but the� Islamic Star and Crescent Moon, composed by two
                                      > symbols
                                      > > > well known in Freemasonry, Freemasonry which certainly has itself an
                                      > > > Islamic origin. The Islamic Star and Crescent Moon is also part of
                                      > the
                                      > > > logo of the US Masonic order named "Shriners"
                                      > > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shriners.png). That's not all,
                                      > the
                                      > > > original Ku Klux Klan membership manual is called the� K(L)ORAN
                                      > (!):
                                      > > > http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > Notice the three golden circles on the wall of this room where a
                                      > > > meeting whose most attendants are KKK members takes place:
                                      > > >
                                      > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/south_caroli\
                                      > \
                                      > > > na_2006.jpg ,
                                      > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/sc5.jpg
                                      > .
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > Now, look at these Masonic objects:
                                      > > > http://imageshack.us/a/img543/5498/eips.jpg ,
                                      > > >
                                      > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/OddFellowMat\
                                      > \
                                      > > > chsafe2-2.jpg .
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > Incidentally, K+K+K = 11+11+11 = 33.
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > However, not everything is negative and some Ku Klux Klan's
                                      > snapshots
                                      > > > can be beauties:
                                      > > > http://www.dodaj.rs/f/1E/UI/39pSDIip/the-klansmen--johnny-reb.png .
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > (1)
                                      > > >
                                      > http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YttMT-NfXsk/TmpFrXp6CcI/AAAAAAAAAZs/X340-P0oxl\
                                      > \
                                      > > > Q/s1600/Ku+Klux+Klan+1.JPG
                                      > > >
                                      > http://freeamericanscommunity.com/kkkstore/product_info.php?products_id=\
                                      > \
                                      > > > 54
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/103977.jpg
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" evola_as_he_is@
                                      > wrote:
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > > J. Evola, in the aftermath of WW2, deplored the lack of a decent
                                      > > > rightist historiography likely to oppose and to debunk the views of
                                      > > > Marxist historiography. The situation has not really changed. The
                                      > > > domination of historical materialism is more than ever undisputed,
                                      > not
                                      > > > simply because it is the sole historical worldview allowed on media,
                                      > as
                                      > > > a dialectic and propagandistic counterpart to the current
                                      > > > social-political doxa, but also, in part, because an actual rightist
                                      > > > historiography is still lacking. Carolyn Yeager's successful efforts
                                      > at
                                      > > > looking at how history is written by some of the main
                                      > representatives of
                                      > > > the conspiracy theory, and at unearthing and cracking their
                                      > background,
                                      > > > are most welcome.
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > > It is in the nature of political organisations or parties to be
                                      > > > infiltrated, and leftists, no matter their brand, their race, their
                                      > > > ethny or their religion, are experts at infiltration.
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > > http://www.subvertednation.net/kikes-kkk-and-the-racial-divide/
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > > The first part (available at
                                      > > >
                                      > http://reasonradionetwork.com/downloads/thh/VoR_The_Heretics_Hour_201101\
                                      > \
                                      > > > 31.mp3) turns out to be just as worth listening to ; in
                                      > particularly,
                                      > > > the thesis, which happens to be also spread by M. Weber of the
                                      > Institute
                                      > > > for Historical Review, of the collusion between Zionism and
                                      > > > National-Socialism is debunked to a large extent, to an extent which
                                      > > > could even be furthered. It is not, as made clear in the
                                      > introduction,
                                      > > > about misinformation, but about disinformation, a positive,
                                      > legitimate
                                      > > > and operative distinction between two terms to which overinformation
                                      > > > would need to be added.
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "G. van der Heide"
                                      > wrote:
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > > > The more recent broadcasts of this radio show on WO II
                                      > revisionism
                                      > > > proved to
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > > > be of interest.
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > > > "Carolyn discusses six major disinfo and conspiracy
                                      > specialists
                                      > > > who love to
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > > > confuse Globalism with "the Nazis:"
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > > > Alex Jones: V Campaign as resistance against "Nazi" NWO;
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > > > Jim Marrs: How America became the Fourth Reich;
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > > > Webster Tarpley: Ties together Britain, the US & "the Nazis;"
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > > > David Icke: Hitler was a Rothschild and a Reptilian;
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > > > Henry Makow: Hitler was a Rothschild, a British Agent and a
                                      > > > Zionist;
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > > > Wayne Madsen: The Drew Pearson of the 21st Century."
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > > >
                                      > > >
                                      > http://reasonradionetwork.com/20110207/the-heretics-hour-disinformation-\
                                      > \
                                      > > > on-the-internet-part-two
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > >
                                      > >
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                                    • rouesolaire
                                      A text about Thomas Jefferson and his study of the Koran. WHILE HE WAS A LAW STUDENT, THOMAS JEFFERSON BOUGHT A NEWLY PUBLISH ENGLISH RENDITION OF THE QUR AN.
                                      Message 18 of 21 , Dec 28, 2013

                                        A text about Thomas Jefferson and his study of the Koran.


                                        "WHILE HE WAS A LAW STUDENT, THOMAS JEFFERSON BOUGHT A NEWLY PUBLISH ENGLISH RENDITION OF THE QUR'AN. WHAT CAN THAT PURCHASE TELL US ABOUT HIM? ABOUT HIS POLITICS, AS AN AMBASSADOR AND AS THIRD PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. OR ABOUT THE LEGACY OF RELIGIOUS FREEDOM AND PLURALISM THAT HE LEFT TO THIS COUNTRY?

                                        QuranFacing the United States Capitol in Washington, D.C. stands the Jefferson Building, the main building of the Library of Congress, the world's largest library... The stately building…is named after Thomas Jefferson, one of the "founding fathers" of the United States, principal author of the 1776 Declaration of Independence and, from 1801 to 1809, the third president of the young republic. But the name also recognizes Jefferson's role as a founder of the Library itself… Among the nearly 6500 books Jefferson sold to the Library was a twovolume English translation of the Qur'an, the book Muslims recite, study and revere as the revealed word of God. The presence of this Qur'an, first in Jefferson's private library and later in the Library of Congress, prompts the questions why Jefferson purchased this book, what use he made of it, and why he included it in his young nation's repository of knowledge.

                                        These questions are all the more pertinent in light of assertions by some present-day commentators that Jefferson purchased his Qur'an in the 1780's in response to conflict between the us and the "Barbary states" of North Africa–today Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia and Libya. That was a conflict Jefferson followed closely– indeed, in 1786, he helped negotiate a treaty with Morocco, the United States' first treaty with a foreign power. Then, it was relations with Algeria that were the most nettlesome, as its ruler demanded the payment of tribute in return for ending semiofficial piracy of American merchant shipping. Jefferson staunchly opposed tribute payment. In this context, such popular accounts claim, Jefferson was studying the Qur'an to better understand these adversaries, in keeping with the adage "know thy enemy." However, when we look more closely at the place of this copy of the Qur'an in Jefferson's library–and in his thinking– and when we examine the context of this particular translation, we see a different story.

                                        From his youth, Thomas Jefferson read and collected a great number of books… The collection he eventually sold to the Library of Congress comprised 6487 volumes… Jefferson not only cataloged his books but also marked them. The initials "T.J." were Thomas Jefferson's device for marking his books: On this page, the "T." is the printer's mark to help the binder keep each 16-page "gathering" in sequence, and the "J." was added personally by Jefferson.It is his singular way of marking his books that makes it possible to establish that, among the millions of volumes in today's Library of Congress, this one specific Qur'an did indeed belong to him.

                                        Jefferson's system of cataloging his library sheds light on the place the Qur'an held in his thinking. Jefferson's 44-category classification scheme was much informed by the work of Francis Bacon (1561-1626), whose professional trajectory from lawyer to statesman to philosopher roughly prefigures Jefferson's own career. According to Bacon, the human mind comprises three faculties: memory, reason and imagination. This trinity is reflected in Jefferson's library, which he organized into history, philosophy and fine arts. Each of these contained subcategories: philosophy, for instance, was divided into moral and mathematical; continuing along the former branch leads to the subdivision of ethics and jurisprudence, which itself was further segmented into the categories of religious, municipal and "oeconomical."

                                        Jefferson's system for organizing his library has often been described as a "blueprint of his own mind." Jefferson kept his Qur'an in the section on religion, located between a book on the myths and gods of antiquity and a copy of the Old Testament. It is illuminating to note that Jefferson did not class religious works with books on history or ethics–as might perhaps be expected–but that he regarded their proper place to be within jurisprudence.

                                        Jefferson organized his own library, and he shelved religious books, including his English version of the Qur'an, with other works under "Jurisprudence," which fell under "Moral Philosophy. "The story of Jefferson's purchase of the Qur'an helps to explain this classification. Sifting through the records of the Virginia Gazette, through which Jefferson ordered many of his books, the scholar Frank Dewey discovered that Jefferson bought this copy of the Qur'an around 1765, when he was still a student of law at the College of William & Mary in Virginia. This quickly refutes the notion that Jefferson's interest in Islam came in response to the Barbary threat to shipping. Instead, it situates his interest in the Qur'an in the context of his legal studies–a conclusion that is consistent with his shelving of it in the section on jurisprudence.

                                        Jefferson's legal interest in the Qur'an was not without precedent. There is of course the entire Islamic juridical tradition of religious law (Shari'ah) based on Qur'anic exegesis, but Jefferson had an example at hand that was closer to his own tradition: The standard work on comparative law during his time was Of the Law of Nature and Nations, written by the German scholar Samuel von Pufendorf and first published in 1672. As Dewey shows, Jefferson studied Pufendorf's treatise intensively and, in his own legal writings, cited it more frequently than any other text. Pufendorf's book contains numerous references to Islam and to the Qur'an. Although many of these were disparaging–typical for European works of the period–on other occasions Pufendorf cited Qur'anic legal precedents approvingly, including the Qur'an's emphasis on promoting moral behavior, its proscription of games of chance and its admonition to make peace between warring countries. As Kevin Hayes, another eminent Jefferson scholar, writes: "Wanting to broaden his legal studies as much as possible, Jefferson found the Qur'an well worth his attention."

                                        "We the General Assembly of Virginia do enact that no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burthened in his body or goods, nor shall otherwise suffer, on account of his religious opinions or belief; but that all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinions in matters of religion, and that the same shall in no wise diminish, enlarge, or affect their civil capacities"(From the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, ratified 1786; drafted by Thomas Jefferson in 1777).

                                        In his reading of the Qur'an as a law book, Jefferson was aided by a relatively new English translation that was not only technically superior to earlier attempts, but also produced with a sensitivity that was not unlike Jefferson's own emerging attitudes. Entitled The Koran; commonly called the Alcoran of Mohammed, it was prepared by the Englishman George Sale and published in 1734 in London. A second edition was printed in 1764, and it was this edition that Jefferson bought. Like Jefferson, Sale was a lawyer, although his heart lay in oriental scholarship. In the preface to his translation, he lamented that the work "was carried on at leisure time only, and amidst the necessary avocations of a troublesome profession." This preface also informed the reader of Sale's motives: "If the religious and civil Institutions of foreign nations are worth our knowledge, those of Mohammed, the lawgiver of the Arabians, and founder of an empire which in less than a century spread itself over a greater part of the world than the Romans were ever masters of, must needs be so." Like Pufendorf, Sale stressed Muhammad's role as a "lawgiver" and the Qur'an as an example of a distinct legal tradition.

                                        This is not to say that Sale's translation is free of the kind of prejudices against Muslims that characterize most European works on Islam of this period. However, Sale did not stoop to the kinds of affronts that tend to fill the pages of earlier such attempts at translation. To the contrary, Sale felt himself obliged to treat "with common decency, and even to approve such particulars as seemed to me to deserve approbation." In keeping with this commitment, Sale described the Prophet of Islam as "richly furnished with personal endowments, beautiful in person, of a subtle wit, agreeable behaviour, showing liberality to the poor, courtesy to everyone, fortitude against his enemies, and, above all, a high reverence for the name of God." This portrayal is markedly different from those of earlier translators, whose primary motive was to assert the superiority of Christianity.

                                        In addition to the relative liberality of Sale's approach, he also surpassed earlier writers in the quality of his translation. Previous English versions of the Qur'an were not based on the original Arabic, but rather on Latin or French versions, a process that layered fresh mistakes upon the errors of their sources. Sale, by contrast, worked from the Arabic text. It was not true, as Voltaire claimed in his famous Dictionnaire philosophique of 1764, that le savant Sale had acquired his Arabic skills by having lived for 25 years among Arabs; rather, Sale had learnt the language through his involvement in preparing an Arabic translation of the New Testament to be used by Syrian Christians, a project that was underwritten by the Society for the Promotion of Christian Knowledge in London. Studying alongside Arab scholars who had come to London to assist in this work, he acquired within a few years such good command of the language that he was able to serve as a proofreader of the Arabic text.

                                        Jefferson's Library

                                        "In this Qur'an, We have put forward all kinds of illustrations for people, so that they may take heed–an Arabic Qur'an, free from any distortion." That quotation from Surah 39, Verses 27-28, of the Qur'an was rendered into English by Muhammad A. S. Abdel Haleem, Professor of Islamic Studies at the School of Oriental and African Studies in London. It emphasizes a basic yet far-reaching fact about the holy book of Islam: It was received and recorded in the Arabic language. Muslims believe that the Qur'an is inseparable from the language in which it was revealed, and for this reason, all Muslims worldwide recite it in Arabic, even though today the vast majority of Muslims are neither Arabs nor native speakers of Arabic. Many Muslims also regard the eloquence of the Qur'an as evidence of its divine provenance. A popular story recounts how, in the time of Muhammad, the most famous poet of Makkah converted to Islam after reading one of its verses, convinced that no human could ever produce a work of such beauty.

                                        Sale turned from translating the holy text of Christians into Arabic to rendering the holy text of Muslims into his native English. Noting the absence of a reliable English translation, he aimed to provide a "more genuine idea of the original." Lest his readers be unduly daunted, he justified his choice of fidelity to the original by stating that "we must not expect to read a version of so extraordinary a book with the same ease and pleasure as a modern composition." Indeed, even though Sale's English may appear overwrought today, there is no denying that he strove to convey some of the beauty and poetry of the original Arabic.

                                        An inscription inside the Jefferson Memorial in Washington, D.C. quotes Jefferson's 1777 statute on religious pluralism that inspired the constitutional right that "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust."

                                        Sale's aspiration to provide an accurate rendition of the Qur'an was matched by his desire also to provide his readers with a more honest introduction to Islam. This "Preliminary Discourse," as he entitled it, runs to more than 200 pages in the edition Jefferson purchased. But did reading the Qur'an influence Thomas Jefferson? That question is difficult to answer, because the few scattered references he made to it in his writings do not reveal his views. Though it may have sparked in him a desire to learn the Arabic language (during the 1770's Jefferson purchased a number of Arabic grammars), it is far more significant that it may have reinforced his commitment to religious freedom. Two examples support this idea.

                                        In 1777, the year after he drafted the Declaration of Independence, Jefferson was tasked with excising colonial legacies from Virginia's legal code. As part of this undertaking, he drafted a bill for the establishment of religious freedom, which was enacted in 1786. In his autobiography, Jefferson recounted his strong desire that the bill not only should extend to Christians of all denominations but should also include "within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan [Muslim], the Hindoo, and infidel of every denomination."

                                        This all-encompassing attitude to religious pluralism was by no means universally shared by Jefferson's contemporaries. As the historian Robert Allison documents, many American writers and statesmen in the late 18th century made reference to Islam for less salutary aims. Armed with tendentious translations and often grossly distorted accounts, they portrayed Islam as embodying the very dangers of tyranny and despotism that the young republic had just overcome. Allison argues that many American politicians who used "the Muslim world as a reference point for their own society were not concerned with historical truth or with an accurate description of Islam, but rather with this description's political convenience."

                                        "The style of the Koran is generally beautiful and fluent, especially where it imitates the prophetic manner, and scripture phrases. It is concise, and often obscure, adorned with bold figures after the eastern taste, enlivened with florid and sententious expressions, and in many places, especially where the majesty and attributes of God are described, sublime and magnificent; of which the reader cannot but observe several instances, though he must not imagine the translation comes up to the original, notwithstanding my endeavours to do it justice." – from "A Preliminary Discourse"by George Sale.

                                        These attitudes again came into conflict with Jefferson's vision in 1788, when the states voted to ratify the United States Constitution. One of the matters at issue was the provision–now Article vi, Section 3–that "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States." Some Anti- Federalists singled out and opposed this ban on religious discrimination by painting a hypothetical scenario in which a Muslim could become president. On the other side of the argument, despite their frequent opposition to Jefferson on other matters, the Federalists praised and drew on Jefferson's vision of religious tolerance in supporting uncircumscribed rights both to faith and to elected office for all citizens. As the historian Denise Spellberg shows in her examination of this dispute among delegates in North Carolina, in the course of these constitutional debates "Muslims became symbolically embroiled in the definition of what it meant to be American citizens."

                                        It is intriguing to think that Jefferson's study of the Qur'an may have inoculated him–to a degree that today we can only surmise– against such popular prejudices about Islam, and it may have informed his conviction that Muslims, no less and no more than any other religious group, were entitled to all the legal rights his new nation could offer. And although Jefferson was an early and vocal proponent of going to war against the Barbary states over their attacks on us shipping, he never framed his arguments for doing so in religious terms, sticking firmly to a position of political principle. Far from reading the Qur'an to better understand the mindset of his adversaries, it is likely that his earlier knowledge of it confirmed his analysis that the roots of the Barbary conflict were economic, not religious.

                                        Sale's Koran remained the best available English version of the Qur'an for another 150 years. Today, along with the original copy of Jefferson's Qur'an, the Library of Congress holds nearly one million printed items relating to Islam–a vast collection of knowledge for every new generation of lawmakers and citizens, with its roots in the law student's leather-bound volumes."

                                        http://www.islamicbulletin.org/newsletters/issue_26/quran.aspx

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                                      • G. van der Heide
                                        James Russell Lowell, a prominent abolitionist, explicitly advocated race-mixing, on the grounds that mulatto offspring would be more submissive -- more
                                        Message 19 of 21 , Jan 4, 2014
                                          "James Russell Lowell, a prominent abolitionist, explicitly advocated
                                          race-mixing, on the grounds that mulatto offspring would be more
                                          submissive -- more "Christian" -- than the White race. He wrote:

                                               We have never had any doubt that the African race was intended to
                                               introduce a new element of civilization, and that the Caucasian
                                               would be benefited greatly by an infusion of its gentler and less
                                               selfish qualities. The Caucasian mind, which always seeks to
                                               govern, at whatever cost, can never come to so beautiful or
                                               Christian a height of civilization, as with a mixture of those
                                               seemingly humble, but truly more noble, qualities which teach it
                                               to obey.

                                          Abolitionist Henry C. Wright stated in 1857 what would become the
                                          actual agenda of the Reconstruction period:

                                               A baptism of blood awaits the slave holder and his abettors. So
                                               be it. The retribution is just. Must the slave holders become the
                                               slaves of those whom they have enslaved? History answers "Yes."
                                               If slavery goes down in blood, the conquered will be the bondsmen
                                               and bondswomen of the conquerors; for the practical teaching of
                                               Church and State is, that might makes the right to enslave. Bid
                                               American slave holders beware! Their turn may come, will come,
                                               must come, to be bought and sold as brutes, and to have their
                                               wives and daughters consigned  to the Negro's harem, unless they
                                               willingly and penitently let their slaves go free."

                                          http://www.textfiles.com/conspiracy/cncia028.txt


                                          From: rouesolaire@...
                                          To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                          Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 09:30:04 -0700
                                          Subject: [evola_as_he_is] RE: KKK (was: &quot;Disinformation on the internet&quot;)

                                           
                                          http://www.kkklan.com/historical.htm

                                          Here are informative articles about the KKK, such as "Negro Members of the Ku Klux Klan" or "Foreign Branches of the Ku Klux Klan" where we learn that "    A chapter of the American Ku Klux Klan was founded in Germany during 1921. Two Americans, father and son, were the chief founders of the German Klan. Both men spoke fluent German and were of German descent. The father was Rev. Otto Strohschein, a naturalizes American citizen of German birth, his son's name was Gotthard, also a naturalized citizen.
                                              The Strohscheins, with the help of  a native born American, Donald B. Gray, went to Berlin in 1921. There, according to German police, they set about organizing the order known as the "Knights of the Fiery Cross". Which was patterned after the American KKK. The order was founded in February 1921. There were three degrees of membership. (The American Klan, itself, had not yet introduced the fourth degree of the KKK at this time.) The governing body of each Klavern consisted of 14 members know as "the Senate". There were three Klaverns in the various sections of Berlin, known as the Viking, Germania, and Heimdal; numbering altogether about 400 members. The provincial Klaverns were believed to bring the total to more then 1,000.
                                              The three Americans tried to make the German Klan the exact counterpart of the KKK at home. It is believed, but unconfirmed, that they even made a trip back to America to bring about greater affiliations between the two orders. The German Klansmen soon objected to too much Americanization and practically threw the Americans out. Gray returned to the United States in the summer of 1925, and the Strohscheins went to Silesia to form new Klaverns there.
                                              Richard Brant soon took over the order as the supreme leader and gave himself the title of "Wotan". Brant held an important position in the Siemens Electrical Works. He is also the one who wrote the oath of knighthood for the German Klan. It is interesting that part of that oath included this Masonic-like passage: "If, however, I should betray the aims of this order, I will take upon myself the most frightful martyrdom. All my bones shall be broken, my eyes shall be gouged out, my body drawn, quartered, and thrown to the vultures."
                                              That should have attracted a multitude of new members.
                                              At the meetings Klansmen wore white robes and hoods. In each Klavern there was a small table on which stood a small death's head and a sword. On the wall hung the flag of Imperial Germany and the flag of the (then) present German government. Initiation ceremonies were conducted at the Klaverns, but sometimes the Knights would take the prospective new members to the forest at night and conduct the ritual with blazing torches.
                                              The German Ku Klux Klan lasted until the early 1930's, when it was forced to disband by the newly installed Nazi government. Once established the Nazis began to persecute and even outlaw all organizations that were not founded or totally controlled by them. Thus ended the German Ku Klux Klan.
                                              Illustration below: Dated 1935, The German Klan, like Christ, had its cross to bear. Caught between the carnage of W.W.I and Hitler gearing up for W.W.II, the German Klan was crucified by the Nazis.


                                          http://www.kkklan.com/foreig4.gif "



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                                          ---In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, <evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

                                          This somehow hagiographical piece was written in 1933, and the belonging of the Jew Simon Baruch, the former Quartermaster-General of the Confederate Army, and father of Bernard Baruch, to the post-Civil War Ku Klux Klan, the first KKK, may not have been of public knowledge yet. The author may not have been aware either that the pre-Civil war emancipation of Blacks did not seem to bother Southerners (see message 1788)

                                          So little is known on the first Ku Klux Klan that, out of all the notorious so-called secret societies, it may be considered as the only actual secret one.


                                          --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "rouesolaire" <rouesolaire@...> wrote:
                                          >
                                          > "Occult theocracy" (http://archive.org/details/OccultTheocrasy
                                          > <http://archive.org/details/OccultTheocrasy> ) is a book written by
                                          > Edith Starr Miller and Leslie Fry, published in 1933 and which can be
                                          > useful for those who are new to the study of secret societies and want
                                          > to have an overview of those of them which are known.
                                          >
                                          > Here is what is written about the first Klan (pages 497-498):
                                          > "THE KU-KLUX KLAN
                                          > (Founded 1865)
                                          >
                                          >
                                          > The Ku-Klux Klan was the name of an American secret
                                          > association formed by the Whites of the Southern States for self
                                          > protection after the Civil war.
                                          >
                                          > It was started at 1865 at Pulaski, Tennessee, as a club for
                                          > young men. The period of organization of the K. K. K. lasted
                                          > from 1865 to 1868. It absorbed other societies of similar aims
                                          > such as the Knights of the White Camelia, the White
                                          > Brotherhood, the White League, the Pale Faces, Black Cavalry,
                                          > White Rose, etc.
                                          >
                                          > Apart from the protection of whites, one of its chief aims was
                                          > opposition to a government based on negro suffrage such as the
                                          > North wanted to impose on the South.
                                          >
                                          > The Klan denominated the entire South as the Invisible Empire
                                          > under the rule of a Grand Wizard : General N. B. Forrest. Each
                                          > state was a Realm under a Grand Dragon; each county a Province
                                          > under a Grand Giant, etc.
                                          >
                                          > The avowed principles were the maintenance of peace and
                                          > order, of the laws of God, of the political and social
                                          > supremacy of the white race and also the prevention of the
                                          > intermingling of the races.
                                          >
                                          > It showed strenuous opposition to the " scallawags " and "
                                          > carpet-baggers " as they called the Northern Whites who
                                          > incited the negroes to commit all kinds of depredations against
                                          > the Whites of the South.
                                          >
                                          > In 1871 and 1872, the United States Congress enacted a series
                                          > of " Force Laws " to break the K. K. K. By that time however
                                          > the negro was once more subdued and the K. K. K.'s central
                                          > organization was disbanded. Its spirit however survived and
                                          > reasserted itself in 1915 when it was revived."
                                          >
                                          >
                                          > About the second Klan (page 607-612):
                                          > "THE KNIGHTS OF THE KU-KLUX KLAN
                                          > (Founded 1915)
                                          > The patriotic nationalist Order of the Knights of the
                                          > Ku-Klux Klan was founded in Georgia on December 4, 1915, by
                                          > William Joseph Simmons, a Royal Arch Mason and a member of
                                          > the Great Order of Knight Templars. (1) [...]
                                          > (1) The Ku-Klux Klan, Hearings before the Committee of Rules,
                                          > House of Representatives, Sixty-seventh Congress, U. S. A. (1)
                                          > p. 97."
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" wrote:
                                          > >
                                          > > As a coincidence, the comprehensive study (in French) on the United
                                          > States, whose publication at
                                          > http://elementsdeducationraciale.wordpress.com/ we announced a few weeks
                                          > ago, is almost ready.
                                          > >
                                          > > We remain skeptical about the views generally expressed by
                                          > `White-Nationalists' (some of them hardly need to take on a Semitic
                                          > pseudonym to express their inner race) on the KKK. It's not really that
                                          > "Simon Baruch, the former Quartermaster-General of the Confederate Army,
                                          > and father of Bernard Baruch, was a post-Civil War member of the KKK."
                                          > (Jews in America today, p. 58) One of the real questions is to know why
                                          > some Southerners became fiercely opposed to the emancipation of Blacks
                                          > after the Secession War, when neither the emancipation of Blacks before
                                          > the war, nor the fact that there were Black slave-owners (see Black
                                          > Slave-owners : Free Black Slave Masters in South Carolina, 1790-1860)
                                          > seemed to bother them.
                                          > >
                                          > > More generally, we remain skeptical about the `aristocratic'
                                          > character, much-vaunted by J. Evola and others, of Southerners, for
                                          > reasons we have already put forward as well as in the light of "the
                                          > remarkable breadth of Southern Jewry's participation in the war and the
                                          > strength of Jewish commitment to the Confederate cause." (The Jewish
                                          > Confederates, p. 229), and of other studies, like Jews and the Civil
                                          > War: A Reader (see "Jewish Confederates"), and Myth and Southern
                                          > History: The Old South, Vol. 1 (see chapter 6)
                                          > >
                                          > > P.s. : the link - that to the cache - is not working.
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "rouesolaire" rouesolaire@
                                          > wrote:
                                          > > >
                                          > > > Thank you for these additions and these explanations.
                                          > > >
                                          > > > It seems that the administrator of http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/
                                          > , a
                                          > > > so-called "white nationalist" whose pseudonym is nothing less than
                                          > > > "baaltanit", has an "eye" on this forum. It also seems that he
                                          > didn't
                                          > > > like my message because he has deleted his article:
                                          > > > http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/ .
                                          > > > Unfortunately for him, the webpage is still available in the
                                          > google's
                                          > > > cache
                                          > > >
                                          > (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:LuK-jUB5_O4J:wnthi\
                                          > \
                                          > > >
                                          > nktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/+http://wnthinktank.wo\
                                          > \
                                          > > > rdpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/&cd=1&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=fr)
                                          > and
                                          > > > a copy has been made at http://www.sendspace.com/file/lkwnzi .
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "G. van der Heide" wrote:
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > I thought it to be of minor importance, but I was reminded of the
                                          > > > pirate logo of the so-called "White Aryan Resistance"
                                          > > > (http://www.resist.com/updates/2009/APR_09/TT-WAR.jpg). It reads on
                                          > the
                                          > > > Wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Aryan_Resistance
                                          > that
                                          > > > it's leader was a former member of the K.K.K.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > Anyway, it lingers.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > Another associative thought, since the the K.K.K. phenomenon has
                                          > an
                                          > > > "Anglo-Saxon" ring to it: the symbolism of the Southern Cross, as
                                          > seen
                                          > > > in the flags of Australia and New Zealand among others, follows in
                                          > the
                                          > > > tradition of most "new world" colonies
                                          > > >
                                          > (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Southern_cross_appearing_on_a_nu\
                                          > \
                                          > > > mber_of_flags.PNG, http://eurekasydney.com/flag.html).
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                          > > > > From: rouesolaire@
                                          > > > > Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 14:27:53 +0000
                                          > > > > Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: "Disinformation on the internet"
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > About the allusion which is made about the Ku Klux Klan at
                                          > > >
                                          > http://elementsdeducationraciale.wordpress.com/2013/05/10/canaille-du-ha\
                                          > \
                                          > > > ut-racaille-du-bas/ , there are some relevant elements on the
                                          > connection
                                          > > > between the Ku Klux Klan and Freemasonry at
                                          > > >
                                          > http://mysterybabylon-watch.blogspot.fr/2011/09/video-hidden-hands-behin\
                                          > \
                                          > > > d-albert-pikes.html (the video is no longer relevant after 11:10).
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > The skull and bones, the symbol of piracy, is found as well in the
                                          > > > "Knights of the Golden Circle" as in the "Ku Klux Klan" (1) (which,
                                          > as
                                          > > > explained in the video, itself comes from the previous secret
                                          > society),
                                          > > > the "Black Legion" and the "Skull and Bones" secret society
                                          > > >
                                          > (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/1917.jpg)
                                          > > > and seems to have its origin in the Knights Templar (8:47). Notice
                                          > that
                                          > > > the "Knights of the Golden Circle" main symbol (5:07) drifts from
                                          > the
                                          > > > Templar cross.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > The members of the "Black Legion"
                                          > > >
                                          > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Legion_%28political_movement%29), a
                                          > > > group that splintered from the Ku Klux Klan, wear a pirate hat with
                                          > a
                                          > > > uniform marked by a skull and bones. Here is a freemason uniform
                                          > almost
                                          > > > identical to their:
                                          > > >
                                          > http://adap2k.blogspot.fr/2009/06/antique-masonic-skull-and-bones-mask.h\
                                          > \
                                          > > > tml .
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > Here is the logo of the "Knights of Pythias", an US secret society
                                          > > > related to Freemasonry:
                                          > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Knightsofpythias.png . Here is a
                                          > > > symbol of the "Ku Klux Klan":
                                          > > > http://tightrope.cc/catalog/images/KKK-triangle-flag.jpg ,
                                          > > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/images/kkk_triangles.jpg ,
                                          > > >
                                          > http://www.independent.co.uk/migration_catalog/article5127811.ece/ALTERN\
                                          > \
                                          > > > ATES/w620/klan_outfit.jpeg.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > The original symbol of the Ku Klux Klan was not the Christian
                                          > cross
                                          > > > but the� Islamic Star and Crescent Moon, composed by two
                                          > symbols
                                          > > > well known in Freemasonry, Freemasonry which certainly has itself an
                                          > > > Islamic origin. The Islamic Star and Crescent Moon is also part of
                                          > the
                                          > > > logo of the US Masonic order named "Shriners"
                                          > > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shriners.png). That's not all,
                                          > the
                                          > > > original Ku Klux Klan membership manual is called the� K(L)ORAN
                                          > (!):
                                          > > > http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > Notice the three golden circles on the wall of this room where a
                                          > > > meeting whose most attendants are KKK members takes place:
                                          > > >
                                          > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/south_caroli\
                                          > \
                                          > > > na_2006.jpg ,
                                          > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/sc5.jpg
                                          > .
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > Now, look at these Masonic objects:
                                          > > > http://imageshack.us/a/img543/5498/eips.jpg ,
                                          > > >
                                          > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/OddFellowMat\
                                          > \
                                          > > > chsafe2-2.jpg .
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > Incidentally, K+K+K = 11+11+11 = 33.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > However, not everything is negative and some Ku Klux Klan's
                                          > snapshots
                                          > > > can be beauties:
                                          > > > http://www.dodaj.rs/f/1E/UI/39pSDIip/the-klansmen--johnny-reb.png .
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > (1)
                                          > > >
                                          > http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YttMT-NfXsk/TmpFrXp6CcI/AAAAAAAAAZs/X340-P0oxl\
                                          > \
                                          > > > Q/s1600/Ku+Klux+Klan+1.JPG
                                          > > >
                                          > http://freeamericanscommunity.com/kkkstore/product_info.php?products_id=\
                                          > \
                                          > > > 54
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/103977.jpg
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" evola_as_he_is@
                                          > wrote:
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > > J. Evola, in the aftermath of WW2, deplored the lack of a decent
                                          > > > rightist historiography likely to oppose and to debunk the views of
                                          > > > Marxist historiography. The situation has not really changed. The
                                          > > > domination of historical materialism is more than ever undisputed,
                                          > not
                                          > > > simply because it is the sole historical worldview allowed on media,
                                          > as
                                          > > > a dialectic and propagandistic counterpart to the current
                                          > > > social-political doxa, but also, in part, because an actual rightist
                                          > > > historiography is still lacking. Carolyn Yeager's successful efforts
                                          > at
                                          > > > looking at how history is written by some of the main
                                          > representatives of
                                          > > > the conspiracy theory, and at unearthing and cracking their
                                          > background,
                                          > > > are most welcome.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > > It is in the nature of political organisations or parties to be
                                          > > > infiltrated, and leftists, no matter their brand, their race, their
                                          > > > ethny or their religion, are experts at infiltration.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > > http://www.subvertednation.net/kikes-kkk-and-the-racial-divide/
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > > The first part (available at
                                          > > >
                                          > http://reasonradionetwork.com/downloads/thh/VoR_The_Heretics_Hour_201101\
                                          > \
                                          > > > 31.mp3) turns out to be just as worth listening to ; in
                                          > particularly,
                                          > > > the thesis, which happens to be also spread by M. Weber of the
                                          > Institute
                                          > > > for Historical Review, of the collusion between Zionism and
                                          > > > National-Socialism is debunked to a large extent, to an extent which
                                          > > > could even be furthered. It is not, as made clear in the
                                          > introduction,
                                          > > > about misinformation, but about disinformation, a positive,
                                          > legitimate
                                          > > > and operative distinction between two terms to which overinformation
                                          > > > would need to be added.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "G. van der Heide"
                                          > wrote:
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > > > The more recent broadcasts of this radio show on WO II
                                          > revisionism
                                          > > > proved to
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > > > be of interest.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > > > "Carolyn discusses six major disinfo and conspiracy
                                          > specialists
                                          > > > who love to
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > > > confuse Globalism with "the Nazis:"
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > > > Alex Jones: V Campaign as resistance against "Nazi" NWO;
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > > > Jim Marrs: How America became the Fourth Reich;
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > > > Webster Tarpley: Ties together Britain, the US & "the Nazis;"
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > > > David Icke: Hitler was a Rothschild and a Reptilian;
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > > > Henry Makow: Hitler was a Rothschild, a British Agent and a
                                          > > > Zionist;
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > > > Wayne Madsen: The Drew Pearson of the 21st Century."
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > http://reasonradionetwork.com/20110207/the-heretics-hour-disinformation-\
                                          > \
                                          > > > on-the-internet-part-two
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > >
                                          >

                                        • G. van der Heide
                                          A trodden path perhaps (and in hindsight better placed elsewhere). Still In addition: this study does seem to be rather complete on the subject
                                          Message 20 of 21 , Jan 4, 2014
                                            A trodden path perhaps (and in hindsight better placed elsewhere). Still In addition: this study does seem to be rather complete on the subject http://books.google.be/books?id=svRu3JgxCA8C&printsec=frontcover&hl=nl


                                            From: g.vdheide@...
                                            To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                            Subject: RE: [evola_as_he_is] RE: KKK (was: &quot;Disinformation on the internet&quot;)
                                            Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 03:44:36 +0100

                                            "James Russell Lowell, a prominent abolitionist, explicitly advocated
                                            race-mixing, on the grounds that mulatto offspring would be more
                                            submissive -- more "Christian" -- than the White race. He wrote:

                                                 We have never had any doubt that the African race was intended to
                                                 introduce a new element of civilization, and that the Caucasian
                                                 would be benefited greatly by an infusion of its gentler and less
                                                 selfish qualities. The Caucasian mind, which always seeks to
                                                 govern, at whatever cost, can never come to so beautiful or
                                                 Christian a height of civilization, as with a mixture of those
                                                 seemingly humble, but truly more noble, qualities which teach it
                                                 to obey.

                                            Abolitionist Henry C. Wright stated in 1857 what would become the
                                            actual agenda of the Reconstruction period:

                                                 A baptism of blood awaits the slave holder and his abettors. So
                                                 be it. The retribution is just. Must the slave holders become the
                                                 slaves of those whom they have enslaved? History answers "Yes."
                                                 If slavery goes down in blood, the conquered will be the bondsmen
                                                 and bondswomen of the conquerors; for the practical teaching of
                                                 Church and State is, that might makes the right to enslave. Bid
                                                 American slave holders beware! Their turn may come, will come,
                                                 must come, to be bought and sold as brutes, and to have their
                                                 wives and daughters consigned  to the Negro's harem, unless they
                                                 willingly and penitently let their slaves go free."

                                            http://www.textfiles.com/conspiracy/cncia028.txt


                                            From: rouesolaire@...
                                            To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                            Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 09:30:04 -0700
                                            Subject: [evola_as_he_is] RE: KKK (was: &quot;Disinformation on the internet&quot;)

                                             
                                            http://www.kkklan.com/historical.htm

                                            Here are informative articles about the KKK, such as "Negro Members of the Ku Klux Klan" or "Foreign Branches of the Ku Klux Klan" where we learn that "    A chapter of the American Ku Klux Klan was founded in Germany during 1921. Two Americans, father and son, were the chief founders of the German Klan. Both men spoke fluent German and were of German descent. The father was Rev. Otto Strohschein, a naturalizes American citizen of German birth, his son's name was Gotthard, also a naturalized citizen.
                                                The Strohscheins, with the help of  a native born American, Donald B. Gray, went to Berlin in 1921. There, according to German police, they set about organizing the order known as the "Knights of the Fiery Cross". Which was patterned after the American KKK. The order was founded in February 1921. There were three degrees of membership. (The American Klan, itself, had not yet introduced the fourth degree of the KKK at this time.) The governing body of each Klavern consisted of 14 members know as "the Senate". There were three Klaverns in the various sections of Berlin, known as the Viking, Germania, and Heimdal; numbering altogether about 400 members. The provincial Klaverns were believed to bring the total to more then 1,000.
                                                The three Americans tried to make the German Klan the exact counterpart of the KKK at home. It is believed, but unconfirmed, that they even made a trip back to America to bring about greater affiliations between the two orders. The German Klansmen soon objected to too much Americanization and practically threw the Americans out. Gray returned to the United States in the summer of 1925, and the Strohscheins went to Silesia to form new Klaverns there.
                                                Richard Brant soon took over the order as the supreme leader and gave himself the title of "Wotan". Brant held an important position in the Siemens Electrical Works. He is also the one who wrote the oath of knighthood for the German Klan. It is interesting that part of that oath included this Masonic-like passage: "If, however, I should betray the aims of this order, I will take upon myself the most frightful martyrdom. All my bones shall be broken, my eyes shall be gouged out, my body drawn, quartered, and thrown to the vultures."
                                                That should have attracted a multitude of new members.
                                                At the meetings Klansmen wore white robes and hoods. In each Klavern there was a small table on which stood a small death's head and a sword. On the wall hung the flag of Imperial Germany and the flag of the (then) present German government. Initiation ceremonies were conducted at the Klaverns, but sometimes the Knights would take the prospective new members to the forest at night and conduct the ritual with blazing torches.
                                                The German Ku Klux Klan lasted until the early 1930's, when it was forced to disband by the newly installed Nazi government. Once established the Nazis began to persecute and even outlaw all organizations that were not founded or totally controlled by them. Thus ended the German Ku Klux Klan.
                                                Illustration below: Dated 1935, The German Klan, like Christ, had its cross to bear. Caught between the carnage of W.W.I and Hitler gearing up for W.W.II, the German Klan was crucified by the Nazis.


                                            http://www.kkklan.com/foreig4.gif "



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                                            ---In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, <evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

                                            This somehow hagiographical piece was written in 1933, and the belonging of the Jew Simon Baruch, the former Quartermaster-General of the Confederate Army, and father of Bernard Baruch, to the post-Civil War Ku Klux Klan, the first KKK, may not have been of public knowledge yet. The author may not have been aware either that the pre-Civil war emancipation of Blacks did not seem to bother Southerners (see message 1788)

                                            So little is known on the first Ku Klux Klan that, out of all the notorious so-called secret societies, it may be considered as the only actual secret one.


                                            --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "rouesolaire" <rouesolaire@...> wrote:
                                            >
                                            > "Occult theocracy" (http://archive.org/details/OccultTheocrasy
                                            > <http://archive.org/details/OccultTheocrasy> ) is a book written by
                                            > Edith Starr Miller and Leslie Fry, published in 1933 and which can be
                                            > useful for those who are new to the study of secret societies and want
                                            > to have an overview of those of them which are known.
                                            >
                                            > Here is what is written about the first Klan (pages 497-498):
                                            > "THE KU-KLUX KLAN
                                            > (Founded 1865)
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > The Ku-Klux Klan was the name of an American secret
                                            > association formed by the Whites of the Southern States for self
                                            > protection after the Civil war.
                                            >
                                            > It was started at 1865 at Pulaski, Tennessee, as a club for
                                            > young men. The period of organization of the K. K. K. lasted
                                            > from 1865 to 1868. It absorbed other societies of similar aims
                                            > such as the Knights of the White Camelia, the White
                                            > Brotherhood, the White League, the Pale Faces, Black Cavalry,
                                            > White Rose, etc.
                                            >
                                            > Apart from the protection of whites, one of its chief aims was
                                            > opposition to a government based on negro suffrage such as the
                                            > North wanted to impose on the South.
                                            >
                                            > The Klan denominated the entire South as the Invisible Empire
                                            > under the rule of a Grand Wizard : General N. B. Forrest. Each
                                            > state was a Realm under a Grand Dragon; each county a Province
                                            > under a Grand Giant, etc.
                                            >
                                            > The avowed principles were the maintenance of peace and
                                            > order, of the laws of God, of the political and social
                                            > supremacy of the white race and also the prevention of the
                                            > intermingling of the races.
                                            >
                                            > It showed strenuous opposition to the " scallawags " and "
                                            > carpet-baggers " as they called the Northern Whites who
                                            > incited the negroes to commit all kinds of depredations against
                                            > the Whites of the South.
                                            >
                                            > In 1871 and 1872, the United States Congress enacted a series
                                            > of " Force Laws " to break the K. K. K. By that time however
                                            > the negro was once more subdued and the K. K. K.'s central
                                            > organization was disbanded. Its spirit however survived and
                                            > reasserted itself in 1915 when it was revived."
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > About the second Klan (page 607-612):
                                            > "THE KNIGHTS OF THE KU-KLUX KLAN
                                            > (Founded 1915)
                                            > The patriotic nationalist Order of the Knights of the
                                            > Ku-Klux Klan was founded in Georgia on December 4, 1915, by
                                            > William Joseph Simmons, a Royal Arch Mason and a member of
                                            > the Great Order of Knight Templars. (1) [...]
                                            > (1) The Ku-Klux Klan, Hearings before the Committee of Rules,
                                            > House of Representatives, Sixty-seventh Congress, U. S. A. (1)
                                            > p. 97."
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" wrote:
                                            > >
                                            > > As a coincidence, the comprehensive study (in French) on the United
                                            > States, whose publication at
                                            > http://elementsdeducationraciale.wordpress.com/ we announced a few weeks
                                            > ago, is almost ready.
                                            > >
                                            > > We remain skeptical about the views generally expressed by
                                            > `White-Nationalists' (some of them hardly need to take on a Semitic
                                            > pseudonym to express their inner race) on the KKK. It's not really that
                                            > "Simon Baruch, the former Quartermaster-General of the Confederate Army,
                                            > and father of Bernard Baruch, was a post-Civil War member of the KKK."
                                            > (Jews in America today, p. 58) One of the real questions is to know why
                                            > some Southerners became fiercely opposed to the emancipation of Blacks
                                            > after the Secession War, when neither the emancipation of Blacks before
                                            > the war, nor the fact that there were Black slave-owners (see Black
                                            > Slave-owners : Free Black Slave Masters in South Carolina, 1790-1860)
                                            > seemed to bother them.
                                            > >
                                            > > More generally, we remain skeptical about the `aristocratic'
                                            > character, much-vaunted by J. Evola and others, of Southerners, for
                                            > reasons we have already put forward as well as in the light of "the
                                            > remarkable breadth of Southern Jewry's participation in the war and the
                                            > strength of Jewish commitment to the Confederate cause." (The Jewish
                                            > Confederates, p. 229), and of other studies, like Jews and the Civil
                                            > War: A Reader (see "Jewish Confederates"), and Myth and Southern
                                            > History: The Old South, Vol. 1 (see chapter 6)
                                            > >
                                            > > P.s. : the link - that to the cache - is not working.
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "rouesolaire" rouesolaire@
                                            > wrote:
                                            > > >
                                            > > > Thank you for these additions and these explanations.
                                            > > >
                                            > > > It seems that the administrator of http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/
                                            > , a
                                            > > > so-called "white nationalist" whose pseudonym is nothing less than
                                            > > > "baaltanit", has an "eye" on this forum. It also seems that he
                                            > didn't
                                            > > > like my message because he has deleted his article:
                                            > > > http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/ .
                                            > > > Unfortunately for him, the webpage is still available in the
                                            > google's
                                            > > > cache
                                            > > >
                                            > (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:LuK-jUB5_O4J:wnthi\
                                            > \
                                            > > >
                                            > nktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/+http://wnthinktank.wo\
                                            > \
                                            > > > rdpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/&cd=1&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=fr)
                                            > and
                                            > > > a copy has been made at http://www.sendspace.com/file/lkwnzi .
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "G. van der Heide" wrote:
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > I thought it to be of minor importance, but I was reminded of the
                                            > > > pirate logo of the so-called "White Aryan Resistance"
                                            > > > (http://www.resist.com/updates/2009/APR_09/TT-WAR.jpg). It reads on
                                            > the
                                            > > > Wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Aryan_Resistance
                                            > that
                                            > > > it's leader was a former member of the K.K.K.
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > Anyway, it lingers.
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > Another associative thought, since the the K.K.K. phenomenon has
                                            > an
                                            > > > "Anglo-Saxon" ring to it: the symbolism of the Southern Cross, as
                                            > seen
                                            > > > in the flags of Australia and New Zealand among others, follows in
                                            > the
                                            > > > tradition of most "new world" colonies
                                            > > >
                                            > (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Southern_cross_appearing_on_a_nu\
                                            > \
                                            > > > mber_of_flags.PNG, http://eurekasydney.com/flag.html).
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                            > > > > From: rouesolaire@
                                            > > > > Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 14:27:53 +0000
                                            > > > > Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: "Disinformation on the internet"
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
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                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > About the allusion which is made about the Ku Klux Klan at
                                            > > >
                                            > http://elementsdeducationraciale.wordpress.com/2013/05/10/canaille-du-ha\
                                            > \
                                            > > > ut-racaille-du-bas/ , there are some relevant elements on the
                                            > connection
                                            > > > between the Ku Klux Klan and Freemasonry at
                                            > > >
                                            > http://mysterybabylon-watch.blogspot.fr/2011/09/video-hidden-hands-behin\
                                            > \
                                            > > > d-albert-pikes.html (the video is no longer relevant after 11:10).
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > The skull and bones, the symbol of piracy, is found as well in the
                                            > > > "Knights of the Golden Circle" as in the "Ku Klux Klan" (1) (which,
                                            > as
                                            > > > explained in the video, itself comes from the previous secret
                                            > society),
                                            > > > the "Black Legion" and the "Skull and Bones" secret society
                                            > > >
                                            > (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/1917.jpg)
                                            > > > and seems to have its origin in the Knights Templar (8:47). Notice
                                            > that
                                            > > > the "Knights of the Golden Circle" main symbol (5:07) drifts from
                                            > the
                                            > > > Templar cross.
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > The members of the "Black Legion"
                                            > > >
                                            > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Legion_%28political_movement%29), a
                                            > > > group that splintered from the Ku Klux Klan, wear a pirate hat with
                                            > a
                                            > > > uniform marked by a skull and bones. Here is a freemason uniform
                                            > almost
                                            > > > identical to their:
                                            > > >
                                            > http://adap2k.blogspot.fr/2009/06/antique-masonic-skull-and-bones-mask.h\
                                            > \
                                            > > > tml .
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > Here is the logo of the "Knights of Pythias", an US secret society
                                            > > > related to Freemasonry:
                                            > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Knightsofpythias.png . Here is a
                                            > > > symbol of the "Ku Klux Klan":
                                            > > > http://tightrope.cc/catalog/images/KKK-triangle-flag.jpg ,
                                            > > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/images/kkk_triangles.jpg ,
                                            > > >
                                            > http://www.independent.co.uk/migration_catalog/article5127811.ece/ALTERN\
                                            > \
                                            > > > ATES/w620/klan_outfit.jpeg.
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > The original symbol of the Ku Klux Klan was not the Christian
                                            > cross
                                            > > > but the� Islamic Star and Crescent Moon, composed by two
                                            > symbols
                                            > > > well known in Freemasonry, Freemasonry which certainly has itself an
                                            > > > Islamic origin. The Islamic Star and Crescent Moon is also part of
                                            > the
                                            > > > logo of the US Masonic order named "Shriners"
                                            > > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shriners.png). That's not all,
                                            > the
                                            > > > original Ku Klux Klan membership manual is called the� K(L)ORAN
                                            > (!):
                                            > > > http://wnthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/fun-racist-trivia/
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > Notice the three golden circles on the wall of this room where a
                                            > > > meeting whose most attendants are KKK members takes place:
                                            > > >
                                            > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/south_caroli\
                                            > \
                                            > > > na_2006.jpg ,
                                            > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/sc5.jpg
                                            > .
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > Now, look at these Masonic objects:
                                            > > > http://imageshack.us/a/img543/5498/eips.jpg ,
                                            > > >
                                            > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/OddFellowMat\
                                            > \
                                            > > > chsafe2-2.jpg .
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > Incidentally, K+K+K = 11+11+11 = 33.
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > However, not everything is negative and some Ku Klux Klan's
                                            > snapshots
                                            > > > can be beauties:
                                            > > > http://www.dodaj.rs/f/1E/UI/39pSDIip/the-klansmen--johnny-reb.png .
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > (1)
                                            > > >
                                            > http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YttMT-NfXsk/TmpFrXp6CcI/AAAAAAAAAZs/X340-P0oxl\
                                            > \
                                            > > > Q/s1600/Ku+Klux+Klan+1.JPG
                                            > > >
                                            > http://freeamericanscommunity.com/kkkstore/product_info.php?products_id=\
                                            > \
                                            > > > 54
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/103977.jpg
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" evola_as_he_is@
                                            > wrote:
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > > J. Evola, in the aftermath of WW2, deplored the lack of a decent
                                            > > > rightist historiography likely to oppose and to debunk the views of
                                            > > > Marxist historiography. The situation has not really changed. The
                                            > > > domination of historical materialism is more than ever undisputed,
                                            > not
                                            > > > simply because it is the sole historical worldview allowed on media,
                                            > as
                                            > > > a dialectic and propagandistic counterpart to the current
                                            > > > social-political doxa, but also, in part, because an actual rightist
                                            > > > historiography is still lacking. Carolyn Yeager's successful efforts
                                            > at
                                            > > > looking at how history is written by some of the main
                                            > representatives of
                                            > > > the conspiracy theory, and at unearthing and cracking their
                                            > background,
                                            > > > are most welcome.
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > > It is in the nature of political organisations or parties to be
                                            > > > infiltrated, and leftists, no matter their brand, their race, their
                                            > > > ethny or their religion, are experts at infiltration.
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > > http://www.subvertednation.net/kikes-kkk-and-the-racial-divide/
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > > The first part (available at
                                            > > >
                                            > http://reasonradionetwork.com/downloads/thh/VoR_The_Heretics_Hour_201101\
                                            > \
                                            > > > 31.mp3) turns out to be just as worth listening to ; in
                                            > particularly,
                                            > > > the thesis, which happens to be also spread by M. Weber of the
                                            > Institute
                                            > > > for Historical Review, of the collusion between Zionism and
                                            > > > National-Socialism is debunked to a large extent, to an extent which
                                            > > > could even be furthered. It is not, as made clear in the
                                            > introduction,
                                            > > > about misinformation, but about disinformation, a positive,
                                            > legitimate
                                            > > > and operative distinction between two terms to which overinformation
                                            > > > would need to be added.
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "G. van der Heide"
                                            > wrote:
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > > > The more recent broadcasts of this radio show on WO II
                                            > revisionism
                                            > > > proved to
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > > > be of interest.
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > > > "Carolyn discusses six major disinfo and conspiracy
                                            > specialists
                                            > > > who love to
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > > > confuse Globalism with "the Nazis:"
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > > > Alex Jones: V Campaign as resistance against "Nazi" NWO;
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > > > Jim Marrs: How America became the Fourth Reich;
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > > > Webster Tarpley: Ties together Britain, the US & "the Nazis;"
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > > > David Icke: Hitler was a Rothschild and a Reptilian;
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > > > Henry Makow: Hitler was a Rothschild, a British Agent and a
                                            > > > Zionist;
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > > > Wayne Madsen: The Drew Pearson of the 21st Century."
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > http://reasonradionetwork.com/20110207/the-heretics-hour-disinformation-\
                                            > \
                                            > > > on-the-internet-part-two
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > >
                                            >

                                          • rouesolaire
                                            Jewish names appear among the founders of Freemasonry in colonial America, and in fact it is probable that Jews were the first to introduce the movement into
                                            Message 21 of 21 , Sep 9, 2015

                                              "Jewish names appear among the founders of Freemasonry in colonial America, and in fact it is probable that Jews were the first to introduce the movement into the country. Tradition connects Mordecai Campanall, of Newport, Rhode Island, with the supposed establishment of a lodge there in 1658. In Georgia four Jews appear to have been among the founders of the first lodge, organized in Savannah in 1734. Moses Michael Hays, identified with the introduction of the Scottish Rite into the United States, was appointed deputy inspector general of Masonry for North America in about 1768. In 1769 Hays organized the King David's Lodge in New York, moving it to Newport in 1780. He was Grand Master of the Grand Lodge of Massachusetts from 1788 to 1792. Moses *Seixas was prominent among those who established the Grand Lodge of Rhode Island, and was Grand Master from 1802 to 1809. A contemporary of Hays, Solomon *Bush, was deputy inspector general of Masonry for Pennsylvania, and in 1781 Jews were influential in the Sublime Lodge of Perfection in Philadelphia which played an important part in the early history of Freemasonry in America. Other early leaders of the movement included: Isaac da *Costa (d. 1783), whose name is found among the members of King Solomon's Lodge, Charleston, in 1753; Abraham Forst, of Philadelphia, deputy inspector general for Virginia in 1781; and Joseph Myers, who held the same office, first for Maryland, and later for South Carolina. In 1793 the cornerstone ceremony for the new synagogue in Charleston, South Carolina, was conducted according to the rites of Freemasonry."


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