"A school teacher working in Hannover, Kammeier researched since 1923 the German
History. In his first book, written in 1926 but only published in 1935, he could
show that all diplomas and manuscripts of the Middel Ages are faked. He bases
his arguments on a detailed analysis of all known copies and discovers that we
never can lay our hand on originals, nor on direct copies of those but only on
second or third-hand copies which differ always in certain points... and that
seems to be intended. Most of the diplomas mention several dates, but those can
never brought into concordance, which is highly suspect.
Kammeiers third work, published first as a series of articles and compiled in
1982, showed that the evolution of Christianity cannot have taken place in the
way we are told. His work was not recognized by the contemporary scholars and he
died in extreme poverty in Thuringia, Germany. It was not until the 1990s, when
his books became an important fundament for the critics of chronology."
"http://www.ilya.it/chrono/enpages/weristwer.html
It is quite significant that, while his first book was published in
National-Socialist Germany, which welcomed research such as his, "as soon as he
had offered his critique of early Christian documents to the historians of the
German Democratic Republic,", where he lived in the post-war years, after he was
taken prisoner by the Red Army, "he became a victim of repressions: he lost his
job, the manuscript of his book ([g11]) was confiscated and had been presumed
lost for a long time ; his estate was nationalised, and his family forced to
dwell in hunger and poverty."
(http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Wilhelm-Kammeier), thus meeting the
same fate as other post-war revisionist historians'
(http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Wilhelm-Kammeier was written by
someone who seems to be an expert on the subject ; see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Franck_Ver_Stut ; sadly, his blog -
http://new-chronology.blogspot.fr/ - has not been updated for years)
A VBR M3U file of 'Die Fälschung der deutschen Geschichte' (The falsification of
German History')is available at
http://archive.org/details/WilhelmKammeier-DieFaelschungDerDeutschenGeschichteTe\
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> Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 21:09:07 +0000
> Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: Falsification of ancient history
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with relation to this topic, I share your feeling about the falsification of the
ancient history. Three fundamental reasons encourage me to think likewise :
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'h-word', historians such as Jean Norton Cru successfully debunked claims of
"atrocities" during the First World War, sustained by many oral testimonies ;
less recently, we know about the famous "donation of Contanstine" - etc, etc).
But if I have any knowledge of these forgeries, it is only because authors of
the revisionist historical school have mentioned them as examples in their
writings, and because there are notably famous. If we take that into account, we
can imagine how many falsifications may remain unknown, in less mediatic, more
consensual fields of study.
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> - The fact that we live during the age of Kali-Yuga, one of whose attributes
is the confusion of ideas. We know that it is true with relation to spiritual
issues, and we can logically conclude that it is true for the knowledge of
historical facts too.
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check the authenticity of the various assertions was so little, and interactions
between such people were so unlikely, that many falsifications probably occured.
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unquestioningly worship the commonly accepted chronology and list of historical
events is sufficient to arouse my mistrust.
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of human prehistory (I'm not talking about refutations of the theory of
evolution) ? Indeed, symbolically speaking, the idea that our ancestors were
dirty, lived in caves in the middle of their dejections, is a strong suggesting
idea in favour of progressivism.
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recentists believe that the wall of Hadrian was built to protect human from
dinosaurs... Does anybody know if any author effectively support a such thesis ?
Was it what you wanted to refer to when you spoke about Fomenko's "extremism" ?
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on this list and many were very interesting. Thanks to those who have written
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> > I would like to address a topic which has not been discussed so far on this
list I believe, that of the falsification of ancient history (antiquity, middle
ages and renaissance). It is directly related to Evola in so far his writings
are largely based on various historical accounts and I do not think he ever
discussed the topic of systematic falsification of ancient history. I believe it
may be strongly related to the struggle between the ghibelline faction and the
guelph faction, as you will see as you read my post.
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> > It seems that the topic of the falsification of ancient history has become
more « mainstream » over the last few decades as several authors have started
investigating and publishing articles and books. It should be noted that there
is not one school of thought, though. However, as early as the seventeeth
century there were people who claimed that history had been largely falsified.
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published against his will in a book in French called « Abrégé de la chronologie
» (1725), published in its full version in 1729 (both are available online in
google books). Basing himself on astronomical calculations and the dates of the
Greek olympiads, Newton's theory is that about 300 years had to be removed from
the chronology. He then rewrote and reinterpreted each event of the antiquity.
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> > Jean Hardouin (1646-1729), a French Jesuit opposed Newton's theory but
agreed that history had been largely falsified. A man of considerable learning,
Hardouin was librarian at the Collège de Paris. He also worked during 5 years on
publishing an excellent edition of Pliny's Natural History, which is still
regarded today as the reference edition. He also published an edition of the
Catholic councils. It is said that his numerous and lengthy notes in these works
contain his revisionist ideas.
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contemporaries in August 1690 and that he discovered the whole extent of the
fraud only in May 1692 as he was writing down long extracts from ancient
authors. According to him, a gang of forgers (the « impious cabal » as he calls
them) started writing most of Christian patristic literature as well as most
Greek and Roman books in the thirteenth century. This « impious design », whose
utlimate goal was to falsify and « utterly ruin » the Christian religion, was
carried out until around the end of the fifteenth century. The first leader of
the forgers was Frederick II of Hohenstaufen (who was nicknamed « Severus
Archontius ») and Benedictines were heavily involved in the forgery, still
according to him. Basing himself on his examination of old coins, Hardouin
argued that the Church did not any temporal power before the tenth century. He
also argued that pretty much the whole history, as told by Christian sources, of
the late and decadent Roman empire was an invention.
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the various religious orders including the Jesuits. Most said that he was a
madman. His books were banned and he had to find a publisher in Holland. His «
Prolegomena to the censorship of ancient authors » were published in the end of
his life. A short book of around 180 pages, it sums up his whole theory and
contains insightful remarks. I have read it in English and I have translated it
into French. I do not know yet if I will simply put it online or publish it. In
any case, I will be glad to provide further information on it. A lengthy
biography in French written by a fellow Jesuit, Father Marteret, can be found in
« Eloges de quelques auteurs françois » (1742) (Available on gallica.fr).
Hardouin wrote also on Dante and said that his book « The Divine Comedy » could
not have been written in the fourteenth century (available on
http://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Doutes_propos%C3%A9s_sur_l_age_du_Dante_pa\
r.html?id=shtLAAAAcAAJ). An exhaustive bibliography can be found in
Sommervogel's book, « Bibliothèque des écrivains de la Compagne de Jésus »
(available on google books). Academic papers were recently written by scholar
Anthony Grafton on Hardouin, who also wrote an interesting book on forgery
called « Forgers and critics creativity duplicity in Western scholarship ».
Interesting documents on Hardouin can be found on www.persee.fr also. Finally, I
know that Hardouin disseminated his revisionist ideas in all his works even if
they were out of topic. Unfortunately, most of his works are in Latin, including
his big book on chronology, and I cannot read them. Other priests (the
Benedictine Jean Mabillon and his excellent book on diplomatics, the Fathers
Henschen, Paperbroch, etc.) wrote also in Latin and participated in the
controversy. From what I understand they went not as far as Hardouin but
acknowledged that many documents had been falsified. As far as I know, nobody
wrote a detailed study of this controversy which lasted for years. More
information on Hardouin here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Hardouin
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prolegomena into English. Johnson wrote a lot also on the falsification of
history. I have read his books and according to him the history of Christianity
as we know it is entirely made up. He claimed that Christianity sprung up in
Italy and that the Bible texts of the New Testament were written first in Latin.
He also claimed that English history was entirely fictional (see his book « The
Rise of English Culture »). His books can be found online :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Johnson_(historian). Forster Fitzgerald
Arbuthnot, an English orientalist
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forster_Fitzgerald_Arbuthnot), who was a a friend
of Johnson, published in 1900 a book on English chronology in the same vein as
Johnson's. It is called « Mysteries of chronology » and can be downloaded online
(http://archive.org/details/mysteriesofchron00arbuiala).
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> > Wilhelm Kammeier (1889-1959) was a German law official who wrote several
books including « Die Fälschung der deutschen Geschichte », « Neue Beweise für
die Fälschung der deutschen Geschichte », « Die Warheit über die Geschichte des
Spätmittelalters » and « Die Fälschung der Geschichte des Urchistentums ». The
first book can be found online but I could not read it because I do not speak
German. It would be great if someone untertook the translation of this book.
Kammeier's theory is that the Church launched and coordinated a vast and
systematic rewriting of world history in the late middle ages. According to him,
documents related to the ancient Germanic peoples were destroyed and/or
corrupted by the Church. That is why little is known on ancient Germanic peoples
today. Germanic peoples, "barbarians", were given a lesser role in history,
contrary to Rome, which was given the limelight. I have read, in Fomenko's books
I believe, that it was only in national-socialist Germany, in 1934, that he
managed to have his books published. He was a soldier in the war and became a
teacher in East Germany, after 1945. He thought his findings would be of
interest to the East German communist authorities but to no avail, interestingly
(because his findings undermined the Catholic Church and communists did not like
the Catholic Church to say the least). He was actually persecuted and died in
1959 in misery, ill and with little to eat.
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falsification of ancient history. Here is a list :
http://www.ilya.it/chrono/pages/framautorfr.htm
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> > Several works from these authors can be accessed online, so I suggest that
you look for their works on the internet. The whole website should be browsed
as it contains interesting articles.
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> > Hermann Detering, a contemporary German pastor who is not mentioned on the
website given above, maintains a site which contains many resources in several
languages : http://www.radikalkritik.de/
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read Johnson's books.
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http://initial.bipedalism.pagesperso-orange.fr/. He has written a very
interesting book called « Où est donc passé le Moyen-Âge ? » in which he
develops his own theory using the findings of other researchers. Also of
interest, Pierre Dortiguier, a French professor of philosophy, has given a
conference this month on the falsification of ancient history :
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xqw2aa_pierre-dortiguier-le-recentisme_news?sta\
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theoretician of the falsification of ancient history. I think that he may have
interesting thoughts but his theory is too far-fetched and eccentric. Also, it
is important to understand that authors may be partial. For example, they may be
influenced by nationalist thought and seek to favour their country when doing
their critique of history.
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given how vast and complicated it is. However, I have become convinced that
ancient history has been falsified, but it is difficult to ascertain to what
extent, and that the Catholic Church was involved in the falsification. I am
also sure that history needs to be shortened and that the Catholic Church is not
as old as it is commonly regarded.
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precise dates to old events given the actual intricacy of chronology and the
extent of falsified documents.
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does not eliminate its potential metaphysical value. To be more specific,
Guénon, Evola and others recognized metaphysical contents in certain ancient
texts. It is doubtful that these texts may have been composed by simple forgers.
However, they may come from a different time period to what is generally
assumed, among other things.
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