If the Sicilian Evola was not properly of Aryan blood in the mind of Serrano, just fancy about our "hidalgo" born in the southern hemisphere...He surely would retort that the Aryans came out from a hole in the Antarctica. Why not?
It is interesting that there is a book by R. Noll titled "The Aryan Christ: the secret life of C.G. Jung". Ernest Jones wrote even to Freud: "Jung is going to save the world, another Christ (with certainly anti-Semitism combined)."
It is well known, in fact, that Jung was anti-Semite till 1939 (as paraded many times by the yahoogroup Retour-ŕ-Guénon). Afterwards he took a Jewish secretary, Aniela Jaffé, who edited also the autobiographical book you quote: "Memories, dreams, reflections of C.G. Jung". A. Jaffé is even buried exactly beside Jung.
Men change: after all before to become a follower of the Last Avatar, Serrano was a Marxist...
Subject: Re: [evola_as_he_is] Re: Serrano and Evola
In his work M. Serrano adopts C.G. Jung's theory of explicitly racial archetypes. This racial interpretation he defends before and during the war. In the post-war era he remained silent about the matter. This is -in M. Serrano's vision- the 'different' Jung. This viewpoint isn't expressed in M. Serrano's earlier writings (including The Hermetic Circle) however.
Evola deals with Jung in “Maschera e Volto dello Spiritualismo Contemporaneo” and demonstrates his understanding of Jung. In confounding a true spiritual change with psychological change, Jung is “even more dangerous than Freud because of his being more subtle and spiritual”.
Jung referred to Evola’s “Hermetic Tradition” favourably in his work on Alchemy. As a scientist, Jung denied that the Archetypes were equivalent to Platonic ideas. Serrano forgot to mention the Self archetype which Jung links to “Christ” and integrates all the “polytheist” gods in a higher unity. Now it is certainly possible that Jung’s true viewpoint is not reflected in his “scientific” works, something he implies in his autobiography.
Serrano was “politicized” as a youth as he mentions even if he chose not to make that explicit in his earlier writings. Serrano rejects Guenon and with him the entire project of “Traditionalsim”. To try to take Evola without his Traditional roots can only result in misunderstanding. That is why Serrano does not understand Evola’s critique of some aspects of neo-paganism, nor of “spiritual races”. Apparently Serrano does not consider Evola – a son of “Southern Italy” – to be properly of Aryan blood.
This is a very good point, which will be included in the critical examination we intend to present of the paragraphs of 'Adolf Hitler : The Last Avatar' dealing with J. Evola's work, when we are able to offer an English translation of the whole corpus.
--- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "vandermok" <vandermok@...> wrote: > > "The Hermetic Circle" is a juvenile work by a not yet politicized Serrano, but as far as I remember, C.G. Jung does not reveal unusual aspects in these conversations. The sentence of Evola, if authentic, sounds strange. Must we think that before he knew Jung mostly by hearsay? Impossible: he quoted the Jung's introduction to "Das Geheimnis der goldenen Blüte", "Psychologie und Alchemie", "Die Beziehungen zwischen dem Ich und dem Unbewussten" and the work with K. Kereny, "Einführung in das Wesen der Mythologie". > > ------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Evola > To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 11:35 AM > Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: Serrano and Evola > > (....) > Coming back to 'Adolf Hitler : The Last Avatar', the following excerpt is worth quoting because of the reference it contains to a comment that was made by the Italian author to M. Serrano a few months before he died : "Evola was very anti-Jungian, being opposed to psychoanalysis which he considered to be Jewish. (A position with which I agree completely). As a letter of introduction I sent him from Vienna my book translated into German, "Meine Begegnungen mit C.G. Jung und Hermann Hesse," title that the Swiss publisher gave to "The Hermetic Circle." In it I refer, as is known, to my conversations with professor Jung and Hermann Hesse. Evola received me saying: "I read your book. In truth I am ignorant of those aspects of Jung you reveal." And he went on to recommend the magnificent Tantric work "The Metaphysics of Sex." > (....) >
(a particularly important reference was left out by mistake of the article we posted yesterday, in which there were four typos, so we might as well post it...
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"The Hermetic Circle" is a juvenile work by a not yet politicized Serrano, but as far as I remember, C.G. Jung does not reveal unusual aspects in these...
This is a very good point, which will be included in the critical examination we intend to present of the paragraphs of 'Adolf Hitler : The Last Avatar'...
Evola deals with Jung in “Maschera e Volto dello Spiritualismo Contemporaneo” and demonstrates his understanding of Jung. In confounding a true spiritual...
This is also a very good point as regards to J. Evola's understanding of Jung's work. Yet, when it comes to 'tradicionalistas integrales', you know as well as...
Evola’s essay on Esoteric Catholicism is available in an English translation here: http://www.gornahoor.net/library/EsotericCatholicism.pdf Since the...
In his work M. Serrano adopts C.G. Jung's theory of explicitly racial archetypes. This racial interpretation he defends before and during the war. In the...
In "Introduzione alla magia" vol. III, Roma 1971, Evola clears up this point, but the gist does not change. Anyway the work of C. G. Jung remains an...
If the Sicilian Evola was not properly of Aryan blood in the mind of Serrano, just fancy about our "hidalgo" born in the southern hemisphere...He surely would...
Doesn’t Serrano claim to be a Visigoth from Galicia, a part of Spain remote from the lands conquered by the Moors? Just as this writer can claim heritage...
This may very well be the bottom line with respect to M. Serrano's misunderstanding of the core of the racial doctrine exposed by J. Evola. The reason we would...
OK, I read #1256. It makes sense that the meeting never took place because you would think that Evola’s racial theory would have been the primary topic of...