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Re: [evola_as_he_is] Hugh Urban (was: A Caricature of Evola)

I must admit that my view of the social functions of French Freemasonry is
over-simplified, in the opposite
direction to the view of Hugh Urban. Since no comprehensive study of the subject
exists, one is dependent on the
anecdotal evidence one finds most convincing.

On the very largest scale, looking at Freemasonry over its entire history and
expanse, it seems clear that its
overall function is to create a networking space for the ascendant bourgeoisie,
such previously marginalised
players as the jews, and those members of the previous (feudal) power elite who
considered that they would gain
more than they lost by collaborating with these rising classes.

However, especially when one is looking at the development and vicissitudes of
the higher degrees, such as those
created or organised by Willlermoz, Pasqually, or Saint-Martin, the interplay of
prejudice and speculation is
almost impenetrable. Urban has as much right to listen to those who claim that
such degrees allowed members of
the old nobility to infiltrate and gain control of significant parts of French
Freemasonry in the early
nineteenth century, as I have to maintain the opposite, viz., that these members
of the nobility were marginal
anyway or were exploited and harnessed by the ascendant bourgois elements.

Shortly after the Wilermoz period there was a spectacular split between the
haute bourgeoisie and the more
radical petit bourgeoisie in French Freemasonry, accompanied by a sort of coup
conducted on behalf of Napoleon
III. In such circumstances, both sides exaggerate the power of the other, for
polemical reasons.






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If asked who said "the bigger the lie, the more it will be believed.", one of the most famous statements of the whole history, most people would answer :...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Oct 18, 2005
1:08 pm

http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/Indo_European_Traditions/ I just joined this group and there are some fascinating files about such things as Freemasonry and...
Rowan Berkeley
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Oct 18, 2005
7:47 pm

There is also some of the Hugh Urban material, that I mentioned earlier, to which Herr Moderator replied, but I alas did not have time to reply to effectively...
Savitar Devi
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Oct 19, 2005
9:41 am

I've read those two monographs by Hugh Urban now, and I find it interesting that he is so dependent on his sociology-of-knowledge intellectual starting point...
Rowan Berkeley
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Oct 19, 2005
12:35 pm

This dense informative review of those two monographs are most welcome. Since you don't refer to the views of its author on Evola, we take it that you also...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Oct 19, 2005
9:11 pm

I don't think Urban discusses Evola in either of the monographs you will find in Savitar's files. In connection with his sociology-of-knowledge, as I call it,...
Rowan Berkeley
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Oct 20, 2005
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evola_as_he_is <evola_as_he_is@...> wrote: This dense informative review of those two monographs are most welcome. Since you don't refer to the views of...
Savitar Devi
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Oct 21, 2005
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I must admit that my view of the social functions of French Freemasonry is over-simplified, in the opposite direction to the view of Hugh Urban. Since no...
Rowan Berkeley
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Oct 21, 2005
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"If a God is "what it is in itself", there is only one way to prove the existence of God, and it is: to become God." J. Evola (L'individuo e il divenire del...
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Oct 21, 2005
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T his second caricature of Julius Evola is the doing of a certain Alexis Dolgorukii, who produced it at http://www.parascience.org/whatis.htm Please hold your...
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"... George Bernard Shaw, co-founder of the Fenian socialist Movement" -- that's gorgeous. She means Fabian, though, sadly. ...
Rowan Berkeley
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Gorgeous, indeed, especially since that individual turns out to be a "he". ... Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com...
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... Movement" ... Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com ... Cúchulainn would show them his Gae-bolg!!!...
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I must have been thinking of the 'Alexis' in 'Dynasty' (Alexis Colby, played by Joan Collins) . ___________________________________________________________ To...
Rowan Berkeley
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Oct 21, 2005
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Sex sells, doesn't it? So take a "high ranking fascist", mix him with occult societies, flavourt he whole thing with some ritual child abuse and you'll get a...
Widar Wulfarson
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Oct 21, 2005
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Yet, this gratuitous caricature can be freely accessed from any computer and it doesn't look like the individual who turned it out has a book to sell. To go...
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A new file was updated to : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitradition/files/Deutsch/Evola/ Julius Evola : "Über das Problem der arischen...
Widar Wulfarson
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Nov 6, 2005
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To quote widar_harigastiz : A new file was updated to : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitradition/files/Deutsch/Evola/ Julius Evola : "Über das Problem der...
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