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Re: [evola_as_he_is] Re: De Giorgio (it was: Reghini and Pythagorism)


About  the ass, the problem is Romans did not distinguish between Christians and Hebrews, considering both similar superstitious sects. The god Set could point out that some root of Christianity goes back to Egypt too (through the "Egyptian" Moses).
Anyway, the ass and the ox represent two forces, one tamed and the other one still wild, like the good and bad robbers at the sides of Jesus crucified. 
 
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Not "decline of Christianity" but Christianity as decline, or from the same chapter, opening paragraph:

The advent of Christianity marked the beginning of an unprecedented decline.

And then from the disputed paragraph: Not only was the ass present in the Nativity scene, but it was on an ass that the Virgin and the Divine Child escaped to Egypt, most of all, it was on an ass that Jesus rode during his triumphal entrance into Jerusalem. The ass was a traditional symbol of an infernal dissolutive "force." In Egypt it was the animal sacred to Set, who embodied this force, had an antisolar character, and was associated with the "children of the powerless rebellion."

My point, and you can belittle me as much as you like but I am using the same methodology as did Evola, is that the symbol of the donkey has never been used as the primary symbol of Christianity, unlike the aquarial fish symbol.

In Rivolta's "North and South" Evola posited Northern man's primary relationship with the sun and Southern man's relationship with the earth, but what about Levant-based man's relationship with water?

Is this unworthy of mentioning?

I mean, its all photosynthesis, "ouroboros." Plus it all stems from nature's scarcity in where man place's spiritual emphasis. The principle of deduction is the same, and the "traditionalist method" could equally be applied here.


From: Evola <evola_as_he_is@...>
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Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: De Giorgio (it was: Reghini and Pythagorism)

 
He did, in 'Revolt' (p. 284-85), without however linking it up to a so-called "decline of Christianity", far from it : it represented "the secret sign of a force that was associated with primitive Christianity and to which it partially owed its success."

Your first statement was that he saw "Christianity as purely a destructive force and connected to the demon Set..." We put it right by pointing out that it was Judaism he viewed, after Diodorus Siculus, as being possibly connected to Set.



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It's a very interesting book of 323 pages, a bit visionary and probably more close to Guenon than to Evola. Anyway my English has rusted by now for...
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Feb 25, 2012
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We stopped reading the book before getting to that passage, which can be translated as follows : "Knowledge prevails in priests, whereas love prevails in...
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Feb 25, 2012
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If anyone is listening with the ability, Reghini and De Giorgio would both make excellent reading material for the intellect-starved desert of the Anglosphere...
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Feb 25, 2012
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There's a text on Pythagorism by J.J. Bachofen to be found in 'Der Mythos von Orient und Okzident' (A. Baumler). From the table of contents : *Rückkehr des...
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Apr 9, 2012
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Reghini and De Giorgio have different visions of Romanity, which understood as the underlying Tradition of the West beyond its various guises. (A useful study...
Tony Ciapo
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Apr 9, 2012
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Hardly a response that considers Anglos capable of discernment. Considering the way Evola has been received in the US and Britain, you may be right - feed 'em...
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Apr 9, 2012
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I don’t necessarily mean they are incapable of discernment, rather there are historically-rooted differences in what constitutes the “right wing”. In the...
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Apr 14, 2012
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Tony, Very good summary. Thank you. Could you also discuss the approach to Islam between the different groups? I am sometimes surprised by the continental ...
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Apr 15, 2012
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Joel, it can be traced to Nietzsche. ________________________________ From: Joel Dietz <jdietz@...> To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday,...
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Except nominally, there is no such thing as the 'Right' any longer. This was ascertained by J. Evola himself in the 1960's. This can still be ascertained...
Evola
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Apr 15, 2012
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Joel, Thanks for your rather misplaced confidence in me. I know nothing specific about any contemporary groups. In general, American attitudes toward Muslims...
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Apr 16, 2012
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Tony, I suspect the contemporary attitude towards Muslims may also be one of misplaced hope. The subjection of the continental right and the generally ...
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Apr 16, 2012
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A strange comment to make, given the start of the Brevik trial today. What “hope” does he express, or do you really believe his case is isolated? As for...
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Apr 16, 2012
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Christianity destroyed for us the whole harvest of ancient civilization, and later it also destroyed for us the whole harvest of Mohammedan civilization. The...
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You do understand, Mr. Sfsdf, that you are speaking ill of your blood ancestors (or at least I presume they are). So, if they were ignoble and chandalas, then...
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Apr 16, 2012
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Tony, what in heaven's name are you talking about? I am quoting Nietzsche regarding the OP's question about rightist European view on Islam..... If you are...
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Apr 17, 2012
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J. Evola's views on ancient Rome are based on a kind of knowledge of the Roman world and of the Latin language which most current European 'traditionalists',...
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Apr 17, 2012
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I think we all intuitively know that Guenon was basically the major formation of his Islamic ideas. Anything critical of the Muslim worldview would have been a...
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We are all looking forward to your extensive study of "the water symbolism of the Christ cult". We could not agree more that "His view of Christianity as...
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He didn't associate the ass-symbol of Set with Christ and Christian decline? ________________________________ From: Evola <evola_as_he_is@...> To:...
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Apr 18, 2012
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He did, in 'Revolt' (p. 284-85), without however linking it up to a so-called "decline of Christianity", far from it : it represented "the secret sign of a...
Evola
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Apr 18, 2012
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Not "decline of Christianity" but Christianity as decline, or from the same chapter, opening paragraph: The advent of Christianity marked the beginning of an...
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Apr 18, 2012
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The very presence of books by J. Evola on the problem of race in the English language, irrespective of how they are received and of how many people actually...
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Apr 14, 2012
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"In the midst of the Hellenic world Pythagoras restored religion and life to the old [non Aryan] foundations, he attempted to give a new consecration to...
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Apr 9, 2012
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Thank you, that was intellectual forensics if there ever was. ________________________________ From: Evola <evola_as_he_is@...> To:...
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About the ass, the problem is Romans did not distinguish between Christians and Hebrews, considering both similar superstitious sects. The god Set could point...
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Apr 18, 2012
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