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Race and Religion (was : 'dvija')

To what extent? To the extent - and this has been stated in black and
white each time this issue has been raised on this list - in which J.
Evola called modern Europeans 'Aryans' : in a typological sense.

Even in Germany from 1933 to 1945, as showed by lexical studies of the
speeches delivered by members of the National-Socialist leadership
during that period, Germans were far more often referred as 'Nordic'
rather than as 'Aryan', more or less rightly or wrongly, since, as
showed by H.F.K. Günther
(http://www.white-history.com/earlson/gunther.htm), who did not
convert to Islam, as early as the late Middle Ages and the
Thirty-Years war, the predominant blood in Germanic countries was no
longer 'Nordic', but rather 'Alpine', with a strong Slavic component.
In 'The Passing of the Great Race', M. Grant, who did not convert to
Islam either, summed up the extent of this racial catastrophe - one of
the many caused in Europe in the past two thousand years by conflicts
between two by-products of Judaism, namely Protestantism and
Catholicism, and by their representatives by proxy -, as follows :
"Two-thirds of the population of Germany was destroyed, in some states
such as Bohemia three-fourths of the inhabitants were killed or
exiled, while out of 500,000 inhabitants in Wurtemberg there were only
48,000 left at the end of the war. Terrible as this loss was, the
destruction did not fall equally on the various races and classes in
the community. It bore, of course, most heavily upon the big blond
fighting man, and at the end of the war the German states contained a
greatly lessened proportion of Nordic blood. In fact from that time on
the purely Teutonic race in Germany has been largely replaced by the
Alpine types in the south, and by the Wendish and the Polish types in
the east. This change of race in Germany has gone so far that it has
been computed that out of the 70,000,000 inhabitants of the German
Empire, only 9,000,000 are purely Teutonic in coloration, stature, and
skull characters. The rarity of pure Teutonic and Nordic types among
the German immigrants to America in contrast to its almost universal
prevalence among those from Scandinavia is traceable to the same cause."

In 'Sintesi di dottrina della razza', J. Evola makes it clear that, if
the Germanic invasion of the Roman empire in the Vth century was a
positive phenomenon, in that it constituted an influx of fresh blood
into exhausted Roman stocks, the fact that most of these Germanic
tribes converted to Christianity shows that, while being certainly
superior to the shadow of what the Roman used to be, they were still
not up to the task, to the task of rebuilding a true Aryo-Nordic
civilisation, by lack of racial consciousness.

In 498, Clovis, the king to the Franks, and 3000 of his Frankish
warriors were baptised. According to Gregory of Tours, Clovis
converted to Christianity, which his wife Clotilda had been pressing
him to accept, because he came to believe that his victory at
Tolbiacum in 496 was due to the help of the Christian God. This
Christian account of the conversion has however been questioned by
historians, especially since it is deeply reminiscent of the Christian
version of the so-called conversion of Constantine. Historians now
believe that what Clovis actually accepted in 498 was Arianism, and
not the Christian faith, and that he converted to the latter only in
508. Did he end up accepting it because he agreed with the doctrine of
original sin and the Maryolatry which ensued from this dogma in the
Christian Context? Of course, not. His conversion was politically
motivated, ensuring him the support of the ecclesiastical hierarchy.
"Mutual self-interest led kings and bishops into a wary alliance that
would remain a dominant factor of political life throughout the Middle
Ages. The kings, according the bishops great respect, sought their
advice and often honored their requests. The bishops, broadening their
secular activities, served the kings as mentors, judges, diplomats and
top administrators–and thereby increased their influence on the
church's behalf" ('Barbarian Europe', P. Dixon, Book Club Associates,
1976)

Mindaugas, the first known Grand Duke of Lithuania, converted to
Christianity in 1250 or 1251. However, he returned in 1261 to
heathenism and the Lithuanian state with him, and it was not before
1387 that "The Gordian knot (sic) was cut by the Grand Duke Jogaila",
who was baptised in 1386 in Krakow. "We do not know the exact reasons
which moved Jogaila to such a decision at this particular time.
Nevertheless, some suggestions can be made. First, christianization
was simply the agreed price he had to pay for the Polish crown which
he desired; the crown not only enhanced his personal prestige as a
ruler but also extended his personal power. Second, acceptance of the
Polish crown gave him an opportunity for stabilizing his own position
in Lithuania's domestic political life torn apart by a decade of
internecine strife, accompanied by assassinations in the ruling family
which threatened state unity and endangered Lithuanian rule in the
Slavic principalities." (http://www.lituanus.org/1988/88_3_02.htm/).
Once again, we find that religious motives did not play any part in
the conversion to Christianity of the rulers of the last heathen
empire in Europe.

"Once a warrior king embraced 'Christianity' – an adoption of form and
formality with little or no regard to content – the warrior
aristocracy followed its king"
(http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/tribes.html/ this site, which we
have only been able to skim, sounds worth reading). In fact, all the
conversions from European sovereigns which took place from Theodosius'
to Mindaugas' and Jogaila's were politically motivated, and,
therefore, do not imply that the then European aristocracy was in
agreement with the dogmas of the Christian Church, nor with the spirit
from which it proceeds, neither intellectually nor spiritually, and
even less racially. That's the first point.

The second point is that the fact that Clovis and the Frank
aristocracy converted to Christianity and that this religion became
the state religion does not mean ipso facto that the whole population
became Christian - 'in spirit' - overnight. "An overview of the
Southern-Estonian rural cemeteries - both village cemeteries and
churchyards - presents data on their number, location, archaeological
finds and chronology, as well as of burial customs. Estonian medieval
burial customs are characterised by the durability of pre-Christian
features (small grave goods, cremation in Southern Estonia up to the
16th c., generic opposition orientation in funerals in Vőrumaa up to
the 17th c.). In a wider European context, similar burial customs can
be found in the same period only in Latvia, Lithuania, at the Saamis
and eastward Finno-Ugrians. Substantially, the burial customs of
13th-18th-centuries' village cemeteries represent the phase of
transition from pre-historic times to Christianity. Similar
transitional phenomena occur also in the culture of all Northern
Europe but in a more early time. The investigation results reveal a
major difference between medieval rural and urban cemeteries: in their
main features, urban burial customs correspond to Christian norms,
characteristic of Medieval Europe, but not so in the country. From
16th c. the difference between burial customs in towns and in the
country decreases: non-Christian features, typical of rural burial
customs (small grave-goods), appear also in urban cemeteries."
(http://www.arheo.ut.ee/Heiki_eng.htm). Many other academic studies
have showed that, in general, the Christianisation process in European
countries was not completed before the late XIXth century, with its
'industrial revolution' and the migration from the rural to the cities
; up to the XIXth century, the continuation of pre-Christian customs
throughout Christianised Europe testifies to the persistence, mainly
in the countryside people, of a heathen mentality and vision of the
world and of life. One thing is to be formally Christian, whether by
choice or by coercion, another thing is to be Christian 'in spirit',
that is, to think and to behave, more or less unconsciously, according
to the typically Semitic values upon which this religion is based. The
Christian precept according to which "there is neither Jew nor Greek,
there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for
ye are all one in Christ Jesus" was never applied, nor even taken
seriously under the Ancien Régime, neither by the aristocracy, nor by
the people. This anti-racial precept expressed in Galatians 3:28, as
many others of the Christian brand, was a time-bomb ; it only started
to condition the thought and the behaviour of Europeans with the
advent of the democratic egalitarian state, that is, once all the
political, social, and psychological conditions were gathered for this
precept to act as an "idée force", and once the main heathen opponents
to Christianity were all exterminated, to start with. This 'change of
religions', M.F. Strmiska notes, "is often characterized as the "
rise" of Christianity, but it should also be understood as the " fall"
of Pagan religions in Europe; a " fall" which was neither a simple nor
a painless process, but rather a bloody and protracted struggle.
Christianity did not simply " rise" like a spring plant or the dawn
sun; it conquered. Nor did Paganism merely " fall" like a leaf from a
branch or a fruit from a tree; it was crushed."
(http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:05c2b0CS-QsJ:www.wickedness.net/strmiska.p\
\
df+charlemagne+einhard+%22religious+traditions%22&hl=fr&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=fr/
)

In 772, Charlemagne, who warred Saxons 'in the name of faith',
released a proclamation that every Saxon who refused to accept
Jesus-Christ would be killed, and, henceforth, he kept a special
detachment of Christian priests, who, in every Saxon village in which
they halted, would liquidate anybody who refused to be baptised. In
782, he had a few thousands Saxons, who held to their own traditions
with tenacity, beheaded, In his biography of the Frankish king, the
monk Einhard stated that the Frankish king disposed of 4,500 Saxons
who "like dogs that return to their vomit" had returned to the
'paganism' they had been forced to give up upon pain of death. In 794,
he enacted a law by which every third Saxon living in any heathen area
was kidnapped and forced to resettle and be raised amongst Christian
Franks. A few centuries later, didn't Bernard of Clairvaux argue in
his sermons "De Laude novae militiae ad milites Templi" that the
religious Knight Templar "who kills for religion commits no evil but
rather does good, for his people and himself. If he dies in battle, he
gains heaven; if he kills his opponents, he avenges Christ. Either
way, God is pleased," To subdue the Saxons and to coerce them into
baptism (that is, 'spiritual circumcision' (Colossians 2:11–13) ;
mikvah in Judaism), it took Charlemagne 30 years, during which many
heathen reactions took place. For the first time in history, a people
of Aryan origin - the Franks - waged a war in the name of religion,
and, what's more, a fratricidal one, in the name of a religion which
was not even theirs, and whose was alien to them. For the first time
in history, religious proselytism, fanaticism, and intolerance, came
to determine the policy of a European aristocracy.

Let's be coherent : just as these religious Saxon wars were
politically motivated, as was the conversion to Christianity of
European aristocracy, Christian Rome's motives may very well have been
of the same order. However, the one who invokes a demon, Goethe and,
in his footsteps, Evola rightly observed, often ends up being
possessed by that demon, especially when this demon is invoked
inadvertently. Before adopting a form, one should pay much attention
to its content.

"The Saxons had a very rigid social caste system. There were three
castes : edhilingui (nobles), frilingi (freedmen) and lazzi (serfs)
who were not allowed to inter-marry on pain of death," This, as well
as a religion and a world-view based on race and which is absolutely
indissociable from race, was what, unconsciously, Charlemagne and his
Christian counselors, possessed as they were by forces of which they
were unaware, tried desperately to eradicate.

To finish answering your second question, very few Europeans, to this
day, have consciously embraced the Christian faith, for the simple
reason that they are baptised as children, as babies, a practice
which, contrary to common belief, did not develop in the Middle Ages,
but dates back to early Christianity :

"For as we are lepers in sin, we are made clean, by means of the
sacred water and the invocation of the Lord, from our old
transgressions, being spiritually regenerated as newborn babes, even
as the Lord has declared: `Except a man be born again through water
and the Spirit, he shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven' [John
3:5]" (Irenaeus, Fragment 34)

"Baptize first the children, and if they can speak for themselves let
them do so. Otherwise, let their parents or other relatives speak for
them" (Hippolytus, 'The Apostolic Tradition', 21:16)

"The Church received from the apostles the tradition of giving baptism
even to infants. The apostles, to whom were committed the secrets of
the divine sacraments, knew there are in everyone innate strains of
[original] sin, which must be washed away through water and the
Spirit" (Origen, 'Commentaries on Romans', 5:9)

""[W]hoever says that infants fresh from their mothers' wombs ought
not to be baptized, or say that they are indeed baptized unto the
remission of sins, but that they draw nothing of the original sin of
Adam, which is expiated in the bath of regeneration... let him be
anathema (Council of Mileum II, Canon 3).

Etc.



--- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "larco_e_laclava"
<larcoelaclava@...> wrote:
>
> >it can be inferred that the
> > race of the body of these individuals, that is, the racial form in
> > which they incarnate, does not correspond to the racial substance of
> > 'their' soul and of 'their' spirit, and that, by converting, that is,
> > by adhering to a forma mentis which is not that of the race in which
> > they were born, they only go back to their true origins.
>
> To what extent, then, can we call Aryan a Europe that was Christian
> for nearly two millennia? Would we be able to draw from that that
> every European who, to this day, consciously embraced the Christian
> faith was therefore, in essence, Semitic? In this case, how would we
> account for the racial consciousness that was present within Christian
> Europe for all that period? To say that racial consciousness was
> indirectly proportional to one's adherence to Christianity, such that,
> the more one was a convinced Christian (whether Protestant or
> Catholic), the less racially conscious he was, would be preposterous.
> The same could be said about accusing the Germans who, by the closure
> of the Second World War, fled to the Islamic world where many of them
> converted to Islam, among whom was Johan von Leers and Heiden Ludwig,
> among many others ('Liste des nazis ayant fuit dans les pays arabes':
> http://aval31.free.fr/texteracines/1967.htm). One could also mention
> cases such as that of Ludwig Ferdinand Clauss, well-known for his work
> on the psycho-physical aspect of race, on which Evola drew a great
> deal for the elaboration of his tripartite theory of race, and who,
> irrespectively of the political situation in Europe, converted to
> Islam and lived for a time among the Bedouins? How, finally, and to
> move up in history a bit, would we account for Prince Charles of
> Wales, who, if he hasn't yet converted to Islam, surely seems to be on
> his way there? (see: http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/119) On this
> point, it would be interesting to see in a few years the United
> Kingdom under a monarch who is a self-proclaimed Traditionalist and,
> possibly, a Muslim.
>
> --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "evola_as_he_is"
> <evola_as_he_is@> wrote:
> >
> > You look at things from a religious angle. As far as we are concerned,
> > it is from a racial point of view that we look at them. From that
> > point of view, the fact that some Whites convert to an Abrahamic
> > religion or that some Jews convert to Islam or to Christianity is
> > irrelevant. For, in the process, they do not change race, do they?
> >
> > From the Buddhist standpoint from which J. Evola looked at the
> > question of birth within a racial context, it can be inferred that the
> > race of the body of these individuals, that is, the racial form in
> > which they incarnate, does not correspond to the racial substance of
> > 'their' soul and of 'their' spirit, and that, by converting, that is,
> > by adhering to a forma mentis which is not that of the race in which
> > they were born, they only go back to their true origins.
> >
> > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, andy@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 3 Dec 2007, evola_as_he_is wrote:
> > >
> > > > It is sufficient to be born a Jew to be a Jew ; no 'second
birth' is
> > > > required in this case.
> > >
> > > Can you elaborate on this point? What about Anglos that adopted
> > Judiasm
> > > or Jews that reject Judiasm? I'm curious about the Evolian view on
> > this
> > > matter.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > It is essential to understand what is meant exactly by 'dvija'
> > > > (twice-born) in the Hindu context. At least in historical times,
> > > > 'Upanayana' is merely the ceremony in which a guru initiates a boy
> > > > into one of the three twice-born castes by investing him with the
> > > > sacred thread, and by teaching him the Brahma-gayatri mantra,
> > > > whereupon he becomes eligible to study the Vedas under his guru.
> > > > 'Upanayana' does start the process of second birth, but it
does not
> > > > guarantee continuity in that second birth, unless one continues to
> > > > adhere to the principles of what is commonly called 'knowledge' in
> > > > modern esotericist circles.
> > > >
> > > > Still in historical times, to be 'twice-born' does not mean at all
> > > > what Evola understood by this, that is, a qualitative change of
> level
> > > > of consciousness leading to unconditioned states of being, a
> change of
> > > > level which, by definition, is irreversible, once reached.
Then, how
> > > > comes the 'Bhagavata Purana' (7.11.35) states : "If a person
who has
> > > > become a brahmin moves away from his brahminical duties, then he
> is no
> > > > more a Brahmin"? How come even members of the third caste -
> Vaishya -
> > > > could be 'twice-born'?
> > > >
> > > > As early as then, 'upayana' meant "a scheme of education framed
> (...)
> > > > to initiate the young men for preparing them for full
citizenship of
> > > > the community"
(http://www.sanathanadharma.com/samskaras/edu1.htm),
> > > > and 'nothing more'. We put it in quotation marks, since, then,
> > > > citizenship still meant racial homogeneity. The Hindu
hierarchy was
> > > > still based on race and on racial purity. However, the (social)
> > > > function of individuals tended to take the upper hand over their
> > > > nature (their race in the totalising sense), while their (social)
> > > > function no longer corresponded to their nature.
> > > >
> > > > In any case, ancient Aryans still remain the only people to have
> > > > realised that the race of the body does not necessarily
> correspond to
> > > > the race of the soul and to the race of the spirit, and to have
> taken
> > > > steps to remedy this as far as possible.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Toni Ciopa" <hyperborean@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I can't speak for Jews, they have their own destiny to work out.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> But doesn't the same apply to so-called "Aryans"? Again in
Sintesi,
> > > > Evola
> > > >> explains that race is not simply a biological category. It is not
> > > > sufficient
> > > >> to be born "white" to be an Aryan; a "second birth" is also
> > > > required, that
> > > >> is, a spiritual realisation of one's identity on a higher plane.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Men, such as they are, will mate with anyone, including each
other.
> > > > In the
> > > >> United States a few months back, a man was even arrested for
having
> > > >> intercourse with a dead deer by the side of the road.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> That is why some effort at detachment from the immediacy of
life is
> > > >> absolutely necessary in order to understand anything at all. Even
> > if one
> > > >> manages to gain some understanding on the physical plane, without
> > > > sufficient
> > > >> spiritual effort, nothing positive can ever come from it.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> From: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
> > > > [mailto:evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com]
> > > >> On Behalf Of G
> > > >> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 5:55 PM
> > > >> To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
> > > >> Subject: [SPAM][evola_as_he_is] Re: Jews and Japanese
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> How would one explain the fact that some Jews wish to remain
> racially
> > > >> "pure", not wanting to have a relationship/marriage with
> > non-Jews, and
> > > >> some having no problem having a relationship/marriage with
> non-Jews?
> > > >>
> > > >> Is this a matter of betting on a different horse, so to speak?
> > > >>
> > > >> --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
> > > >> <mailto:evola_as_he_is%40yahoogroups.com> , "Toni Ciopa"
> > <hyperborean@>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> RE: "J. Evola never called himself a traditionalist."
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> This may very well be true since "traditionalism" represents no
> > > > body of
> > > >>> knowledge, nor school of thought, nor creed to believe; hence it
> > > >> makes no
> > > >>> sense to call oneself a "traditionalist."
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> However, the word is one thing and reality another. In
"Sintesi di
> > > >> dottrina
> > > >>> della razza", Evola writes:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> "the precise, strict, objective knowledge of the spirit of the
> > > >> primordial
> > > >>> traditions must be the decisive factor" (that is, in the
> > discussion of
> > > >>> race).
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> It is worth quoting the section in full:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> "It is necessary to stay attentive and not fall into the
> > > >> misunderstandings
> > > >>> and errors that we mentioned [i.e., about neopaganism], which
> > > >> basically only
> > > >>> play into the hands of common enemies. In such an eventuality,
> a man
> > > >> must
> > > >>> put himself on a level where doctrinal confusion is not
> allowed in,
> > > >> where
> > > >>> every dilettantism and every arbitrary intellectual exercise is
> > > >> excluded,
> > > >>> where every subjection to confused, passionate impulses and
> > polemical
> > > >>> animosities must be forcibly fought off, where, finally and
above
> > > >> all, only
> > > >>> the precise, strict, objective knowledge of the spirit of the
> > > > primordial
> > > >>> traditions must be the decisive factor." (p 137-138)
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Unfortunately, Revilo P. Oliver is a neopagan and not at that
> level.
> > > >> Caveat
> > > >>> emptor.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>





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You look at things from a religious angle. As far as we are concerned, it is from a racial point of view that we look at them. From that point of view, the...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Dec 4, 2007
12:05 am

More on the Prince of Wales' relation to Traditionalism: http://traditionalistblog.blogspot.com/2006/10/traditionalists-by-appointment-to-hrh.html He even...
larco_e_laclava Offline Send Email Dec 4, 2007
8:00 am

... To what extent, then, can we call Aryan a Europe that was Christian for nearly two millennia? Would we be able to draw from that that every European who,...
larco_e_laclava Offline Send Email Dec 4, 2007
8:18 am

Are you sure that you don't want to re-read what you have written, to think about it again, to ponder over it, before, summing up in part what we have been...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Dec 4, 2007
8:23 am

To what extent? To the extent - and this has been stated in black and white each time this issue has been raised on this list - in which J. Evola called modern...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Dec 7, 2007
11:54 pm

There was no racial consciousness in the Middle Ages, and they could not be any, for the reasons we have mentioned in our previous message. Your second...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Dec 9, 2007
10:02 pm

I don't understand your point. Evola describes "dvija" in its Hindu context just as you say (Sintesi IV.1). The first three castes correspond to the tripartite...
Toni Ciopa
hyperborean Offline Send Email
Dec 7, 2007
8:26 am

Re: "No matter how low a biological racial world-view is, it is still incomparable higher than a non racial or anti-racial cathotheist dissertation, whether...
aegishjalmar
heiliges_blut Offline Send Email
Dec 3, 2007
5:34 pm

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