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Re: Serrano and Evola

This may very well be the bottom line with respect to M. Serrano's
misunderstanding of the core of the racial doctrine exposed by J. Evola. The
reason we would like to conduct and to propose a critical examination of the
excerpts of his work dealing with J. Evola's, once we are able to offer an
English translation of the whole corpus, is that, leaving aside his
misunderstandings, his errors, and even his blunders, some of which we already
pointed out in message #1256, it seems to us that, in other respects, some of
his considerations contain intuitions that would gain by being explored.
By the way, the Italian writer never claimed heritage from the Viking Normans.

--- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Tony Ciapo" <hyperborean@...> wrote:
>
> Doesn't Serrano claim to be a Visigoth from Galicia, a part of Spain remote
> from the lands conquered by the Moors? Just as this writer can claim
> heritage from the Viking Normans who occupied a large fortress in his
> ancestral homeland of Salemi.
>
>
>
> The bottom line is that Serrano accepts the myth of blood and misunderstands
> Evola's position. The point of the race of the spirit is not that a
> "mestizo" can have an Aryan spirit, but rather that even a man of the
> correct bloodline is not an Aryan unless and until he is twice born into
> that spirit. Oddly enough, Jung himself allegedly proposed an idea similar
> to the race of the soul, namely the unconscious of the Aryan is different
> from the Jewish? Unfortunately, Serrano refers to an edition of Jung's book
> that is no longer available.
>
>
>
> From: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com [mailto:evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of vandermok
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 6:05 AM
> To: evola as he is
> Subject: Re: [evola_as_he_is] Re: Serrano and Evola
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> If the Sicilian Evola was not properly of Aryan blood in the mind of
> Serrano, just fancy about our "hidalgo" born in the southern hemisphere...He
> surely would retort that the Aryans came out from a hole in the Antarctica.
> Why not?
>
>
>
> It is interesting that there is a book by R. Noll titled "The Aryan Christ:
> the secret life of C.G. Jung". Ernest Jones wrote even to Freud: "Jung is
> going to save the world, another Christ (with certainly anti-Semitism
> combined)."
>
> It is well known, in fact, that Jung was anti-Semite till 1939 (as paraded
> many times by the yahoogroup Retour-ŕ-Guénon). Afterwards he took a Jewish
> secretary, Aniela Jaffé, who edited also the autobiographical book you
> quote: "Memories, dreams, reflections of C.G. Jung". A. Jaffé is even buried
> exactly beside Jung.
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> Men change: after all before to become a follower of the Last Avatar,
> Serrano was a Marxist...
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: G. van der Heide <mailto:vnvsmvndvs@...>
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> To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
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> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 10:18 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [evola_as_he_is] Re: Serrano and Evola
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> In his work M. Serrano adopts C.G. Jung's theory of explicitly racial
> archetypes. This racial interpretation he defends before and during the war.
> In the post-war era he remained silent about the matter. This is -in M.
> Serrano's vision- the 'different' Jung. This viewpoint isn't expressed in M.
> Serrano's earlier writings (including The Hermetic Circle) however.
>
>
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> 2011/5/30 Tony Ciapo <hyperborean@...>
>





Wed Jun 1, 2011 3:39 pm

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(a particularly important reference was left out by mistake of the article we posted yesterday, in which there were four typos, so we might as well post it...
Evola
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Mar 24, 2010
1:55 pm

Die "Integralen Traditionalisten" fragen sich: Wenn die traditionelle Gesellschaft" der Ursprünge, das Goldene Zeitalter Hyperboreas, jenes Erden-Paradies,...
G. van der Heide
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May 10, 2011
9:30 am

In der Auffassung Bachofens findet Julius Evola die Grundlage für eine spiritualistische Rassenbestimmung. Dem Arisch-Nordischen entspricht die...
G. van der Heide
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May 10, 2011
9:30 am

"The Hermetic Circle" is a juvenile work by a not yet politicized Serrano, but as far as I remember, C.G. Jung does not reveal unusual aspects in these...
vandermok
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May 30, 2011
10:25 am

This is a very good point, which will be included in the critical examination we intend to present of the paragraphs of 'Adolf Hitler : The Last Avatar'...
Evola
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May 30, 2011
11:14 am

Evola deals with Jung in “Maschera e Volto dello Spiritualismo Contemporaneo” and demonstrates his understanding of Jung. In confounding a true spiritual...
Tony Ciapo
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May 30, 2011
8:08 pm

This is also a very good point as regards to J. Evola's understanding of Jung's work. Yet, when it comes to 'tradicionalistas integrales', you know as well as...
Evola
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May 30, 2011
8:28 pm

Evola’s essay on Esoteric Catholicism is available in an English translation here: http://www.gornahoor.net/library/EsotericCatholicism.pdf Since the...
Tony Ciapo
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Jun 1, 2011
2:51 pm

In his work M. Serrano adopts C.G. Jung's theory of explicitly racial archetypes. This racial interpretation he defends before and during the war. In the...
G. van der Heide
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May 31, 2011
9:24 am

In "Introduzione alla magia" vol. III, Roma 1971, Evola clears up this point, but the gist does not change. Anyway the work of C. G. Jung remains an...
vandermok
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May 31, 2011
9:24 am

If the Sicilian Evola was not properly of Aryan blood in the mind of Serrano, just fancy about our "hidalgo" born in the southern hemisphere...He surely would...
vandermok
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May 31, 2011
7:22 pm

Doesn’t Serrano claim to be a Visigoth from Galicia, a part of Spain remote from the lands conquered by the Moors? Just as this writer can claim heritage...
Tony Ciapo
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Jun 1, 2011
2:51 pm

This may very well be the bottom line with respect to M. Serrano's misunderstanding of the core of the racial doctrine exposed by J. Evola. The reason we would...
Evola
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Jun 1, 2011
3:39 pm

OK, I read #1256. It makes sense that the meeting never took place because you would think that Evola’s racial theory would have been the primary topic of...
Tony Ciapo
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Jun 2, 2011
9:37 am

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