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Hugh Urban (was: A Caricature of Evola)

This dense informative review of those two monographs are most
welcome. Since you don't refer to the views of its author on Evola,
we take it that you also consider them as "blank".

In his critical writings on psychoanalysis, Evola never misses an
opportunity to point out that, if the conclusions of psychoanalysis
are absurd with respect to a traditional man whose centre didn't lie
in his subconscious, they are valid when it comes to the modern man,
whose centre lies exactly there. Likewise, the assumption
that "'knowledge' is not true or false per se, but is emblematic of a
certain social status, to which it acts as passport" is not untrue in
modern society, in which 'social status' is all, is all individuals
have left to feel they are different from each another. Basically,
the notion of 'social status' can only arise on the ruins of a
society of orders or of castes, in which social relations of
competition and imitation did not exist and could not exist, as
showed by René Girard - whose theory of nimesis has unfortunately
been hijacked by Marxist economists and sociologists.



--- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Rowan Berkeley"
<rowan_berkeley@y...> wrote:
>
> I've read those two monographs by Hugh Urban now, and I find it
interesting that he is so dependent on his
> sociology-of-knowledge intellectual starting point that he has to
distance himself from marxism to avoid being
> identified with it. The tell-tale sign of the sociological base is
the concern with social status as the litmus
> test fior the nature of 'knowledge', i.e., 'knowledge' is not true
or false per se, but is emblematic of a
> certain social status, to which it acts as passport.
>
> Of course, this is not untrue, but by itself it is misleading -
consider his treatment of Willermoz, which
> manages to state that W's Masonic 'knowledge' simultaneously:
> (1) connected him to the aristocratic pre-revolutionary elite
> (2) was nearly destroyed by the revolution
> (3) provided a vehicle for aristocrats to perpetuate their social
status in the post-revolutionary world
> (4) raised W himself to an anomalously high status given his social
origins
> (5) was emblematic of the actually reactionary nature of French
Freemasonry
>
> but rejects the Catholic view that
> (a) Freemasonry was a vehicle for the rising bourgeoisie and the
Jews to network AGAINST feudalism
> (b) Freemasonry systematically attacked religious education
> (c) Freemasonry networked internationally to reduce one feudal or
imperial state after another
> (d) the actual content of Freemasonic teaching was anti-Christian
> (e) those aristocrats who did support Freemasonry in their OWN
countries (as opposed to those who used it as a
> subversive stalking-horse in OTHER countries) were either junior
scions without power in the status quo, or were
> self-deluded eccentrics (like 'Philippe Egalite') and were usually
destroyed by the later stages of the
> revolution anyway.
>
> In the same way that he one-sidedly, or indeed wrongly, presents
Freemasonry in France as a prop of the
> post-revolution aristocacy, he also presents Bangali Tantra as a
prop for the post-classical Brahman elite, but
> I cannot evaluate his accuracy here.
>
>
>
>
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If asked who said "the bigger the lie, the more it will be believed.", one of the most famous statements of the whole history, most people would answer :...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Oct 18, 2005
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http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/Indo_European_Traditions/ I just joined this group and there are some fascinating files about such things as Freemasonry and...
Rowan Berkeley
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Oct 18, 2005
7:47 pm

There is also some of the Hugh Urban material, that I mentioned earlier, to which Herr Moderator replied, but I alas did not have time to reply to effectively...
Savitar Devi
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Oct 19, 2005
9:41 am

I've read those two monographs by Hugh Urban now, and I find it interesting that he is so dependent on his sociology-of-knowledge intellectual starting point...
Rowan Berkeley
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Oct 19, 2005
12:35 pm

This dense informative review of those two monographs are most welcome. Since you don't refer to the views of its author on Evola, we take it that you also...
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9:11 pm

I don't think Urban discusses Evola in either of the monographs you will find in Savitar's files. In connection with his sociology-of-knowledge, as I call it,...
Rowan Berkeley
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Oct 20, 2005
12:52 pm

evola_as_he_is <evola_as_he_is@...> wrote: This dense informative review of those two monographs are most welcome. Since you don't refer to the views of...
Savitar Devi
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Oct 21, 2005
10:11 am

I must admit that my view of the social functions of French Freemasonry is over-simplified, in the opposite direction to the view of Hugh Urban. Since no...
Rowan Berkeley
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Oct 21, 2005
12:24 pm

"If a God is "what it is in itself", there is only one way to prove the existence of God, and it is: to become God." J. Evola (L'individuo e il divenire del...
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Oct 21, 2005
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T his second caricature of Julius Evola is the doing of a certain Alexis Dolgorukii, who produced it at http://www.parascience.org/whatis.htm Please hold your...
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"... George Bernard Shaw, co-founder of the Fenian socialist Movement" -- that's gorgeous. She means Fabian, though, sadly. ...
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Gorgeous, indeed, especially since that individual turns out to be a "he". ... Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com...
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... Movement" ... Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com ... Cúchulainn would show them his Gae-bolg!!!...
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I must have been thinking of the 'Alexis' in 'Dynasty' (Alexis Colby, played by Joan Collins) . ___________________________________________________________ To...
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Oct 21, 2005
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Sex sells, doesn't it? So take a "high ranking fascist", mix him with occult societies, flavourt he whole thing with some ritual child abuse and you'll get a...
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Oct 21, 2005
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Yet, this gratuitous caricature can be freely accessed from any computer and it doesn't look like the individual who turned it out has a book to sell. To go...
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A new file was updated to : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitradition/files/Deutsch/Evola/ Julius Evola : "Über das Problem der arischen...
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To quote widar_harigastiz : A new file was updated to : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitradition/files/Deutsch/Evola/ Julius Evola : "Über das Problem der...
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