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RE: [evola_as_he_is] Elements of Racial Education -- Chap 9

This is the Italian dictionary definition of slanciato:

 

part. pass. di slanciare
agg. alto e snello (detto sia di persona sia di struttura architettonica): una donna, una figura slanciata; arco, pilastro slanciato.

 

 

While my intuition is not perfect, it can’t be said I was totally off base – so I stand by my re-translation.

 

Very helpful link … Günther describes the original Indo-Europeans as strong and having powerful builds – quite the opposite of slim and nervous.

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com [mailto:evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of evola_as_he_is
Sent:
Saturday, December 10, 2005 12:03 PM
To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Elements of Racial Education -- Chap 9

 


Agreed.

"Evola's point is that the race of the spirit and soul is expressed
through the body", and that's precisely what was to be pointed out in
this respect, for those who still haven't read 'The Elements of
Racial Education'.

This is the original passage : "Un'anima che viva il mondo come
qualcosa, di fronte a cui essa prende attivamente posizione, come
oggetto di un attacco e di un conquista, normalmente dovrebbe avere
un volto che nei tratti decisi e arditi rispecchi questa esperienza
interiore, un corpo slanciato, alto, nervoso, diritto - un corpo ario
o nordico-ario".

The Italian word translated as "slim" is neither 'snello',
nor 'magro', but 'slanciato'. As a rule, the English terminology used
to translate 'Indirizzi per una educazione razziale' is similar to
the one used to translate the works of genius of HFK Günther(
http://www.white-history.com/earlson/gunther.htm )



--- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Tony Ciopa"
<hyperborean@b...> wrote:
>
> This booklet contains the barest outline of Evola's ideas on race.
Since I
> had never been particularly interested in that topic until I read
this, I am
> not familiar with his other works which may expand upon these
ideas. (That's
> a situation I plan to rectify over the next few months.)
>

>
> You may have noticed that I took the liberty to retranslate the
passage a
> bit - the original text on page 31 has "nervous" where I have put
> "energetic". I would have translated "thin" as "lean". I doubt
Evola was
> recommending the "skinny, nervous" type of guy as the ideal. "Lean
and
> energetic" makes more sense here. I would also bet that the word
translated
> as "slim" is "snello", not "magro". My grandmother used to complain
that I
> was too thin (magro), as she filled my plate with another serving
of pasta!
>

>
> Perhaps the moderator would be so kind as to give us the original
text -
> including the word translated as "straight". I suspect "erect"
would be a
> better translation.
>

>
> So now: a "lean, tall, energetic, erect" body - that sound much
more Aryan
> to me. Sorry, no way can I make it "short and fat", but at least we
are not
> ruling out the mesomorph.
>

>
> As to why? Evola explains: "It is not a matter of indifference that
a body
> has this shape rather than that one: it is not by chance and without
> consequence." `[my rewording].
>

>
> I don't know which wording you are referring to - Evola's point is
that the
> race of the spirit and soul is expressed through the body.
>

>
> Don't forget, too, that Evola is expressing the ideal, and ideal
that many
> of us may be far from due to the factors mentioned (cross-breeding,
> hybridisation), so that the inner unity of an individual may be
lost. There
> is a life's task involved: to develop our introspective and
intuitive
> faculties, to be able to discern those spiritual and soulish
factors that
> constitute our interiority. This requires concentration, but the
end result
> may be to achieve a more unified sense of spirit and soul. If we
dig back
> far enough, we may be able to find that primordial Aryan spirit
within.
>

>
> As for the nation, Evola's purpose is writing this tract was to
outline a
> racial education for young people, so they would be able to
recreate a purer
> race over time. Of course, such an education is out of the question
anywhere
> in the Western world anymore. I suspect that we will begin to see
racially
> aware groups of people begin to withdraw from the wider society to
create
> their own communities.
>

>

>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Savitar Devi
> Sent:
Friday, December 09, 2005 2:45 PM
> To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [evola_as_he_is] Elements of Racial Education -- Chap 9
>

>
> This may seem overly pedantic, but why does Evola feel it necessary
to
> ascribe a set of given physical attributes to the 'man of race'?
Does this
> mean that a man of less physical stature is smaller in spirit? The
use of
> the word slim seems especially odd, as it would preclude anyone of
muscular
> stature as well as those amongst use whom are more 'padded'.
>

>
> This wording actually seems to imply the opposite - that there is a
> connection between the body and spirit.
>
> Tony Ciopa <hyperborean@b...> wrote:
>

>
> This is how Evola describes the man of race:
>

>
> Soul: The soul experiences the world the world as something before
which it
> takes a stand actively, which regards the world as an object of
attack and
> conquest
>

>
> Body: A face which reflects by determined and daring features this
inner
> experience. A slim, tall, energetic, straight body.
>

>
> Spirit: The calm domination of the spirit over the soul and the
body.
>

>
> Overall: a man of one piece, unified and coherent.
>

>
> Of course, this rules out self-promoters who change their religious
and
> political affiliations as often as a snake sheds its skin. And
naturalists
> who believe the spirit arises from the body, rather than the body
being the
> expression of the spirit.
>

>

>

>

>
>
>
>
>

>

>
> Three heavens there are; two Savitar's, adjacent:
>
> In Yama's world is one, home of heroes.
>
> As on a linch-pin, firm, rest things immortal:
>
> He who hath known it, let him here declare it.
>

>
> - Rig Veda I.35 (Griffith)
>



Sat Dec 10, 2005 8:12 pm

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Agreed. "Evola's point is that the race of the spirit and soul is expressed through the body", and that's precisely what was to be pointed out in this respect,...
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This is the Italian dictionary definition of slanciato: part. pass. di slanciare ¶ agg. alto e snello (detto sia di persona sia di struttura architettonica): ...
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You didn't need to admit that you have absolutely no knowledge of Evola's teachings of race. A review of 'The Elements of Racial Education', which, 65 years or...
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