A propos du rationalisme, du scientisme et de l'intelligence

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  • Roue Solaire
    Bonjour, J ai rédigé il y a deux mois quelques messages (71 au total) sur le forum internet stormfront abordant - entre autres - ces sujets et reprenant
    Message 1 of 28 , May 12 6:34 PM
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      Bonjour,

      J'ai rédigé il y a deux mois quelques messages (71 au total) sur le forum internet "stormfront" abordant - entre autres - ces sujets et reprenant plusieurs de vos arguments. Voici les quatre principaux.

      http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t873652-21/#post10090227
      http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t873652-25/#post10093544
      http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t873652-28/#post10097621
      http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t877898/#post10137749

      J'aimerais savoir ce que vous en pensez.

      Cordialement,

      P.S.
      Si cela vous intéresse, de nombreuses vidéos sur différents matriarcats : http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t875338/
      Le compte you(tre)tube de la gynécocrate qui a posté toutes ces vidéos : http://www.youtube.com/user/MATRIARCAT/videos
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    • Evola
      We are grateful to you for drawing our attention to the edifying video material on matriarchy available at http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t875338/ We could
      Message 2 of 28 , May 12 7:41 PM
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        We are grateful to you for drawing our attention to the edifying video material on matriarchy available at http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t875338/

        We could not agree more on the challenging content of those four sound messages of yours on rationalism, intelligence, and scientism that were posted onto that forum.

        You are most welcome to elaborate on these issues on evola_as_he_is. We would ask you to do so in English, since this is an English-speaking forum.




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        --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, Roue Solaire <rouesolaire@...> wrote:
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        > Bonjour,
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        > J'ai rédigé il y a deux mois quelques messages (71 au total) sur le forum internet "stormfront" abordant - entre autres - ces sujets et reprenant plusieurs de vos arguments. Voici les quatre principaux.
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        > http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t873652-21/#post10090227
        > http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t873652-25/#post10093544
        > http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t873652-28/#post10097621
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        > http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t877898/#post10137749
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        > J'aimerais savoir ce que vous en pensez.
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        > Cordialement,
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        > Si cela vous intéresse, de nombreuses vidéos sur différents matriarcats : http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t875338/
        > Le compte you(tre)tube de la gynécocrate qui a posté toutes ces vidéos : http://www.youtube.com/user/MATRIARCAT/videos
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      • G. van der Heide
        This article http://boulderjewishnews.org/2009/an-informal-list-of-jewish-inventions-innovations-and-radical-ideas (mentioned in one of your messages) drew my
        Message 3 of 28 , May 12 10:35 PM
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          This article http://boulderjewishnews.org/2009/an-informal-list-of-jewish-inventions-innovations-and-radical-ideas (mentioned in one of your messages) drew my attention. What then is modernity, if not 'the death of cultures' by erecting a virtual reality where otherwise things would be within reach - be it music performances, public art and monumental sculptures etc. etc. 



          To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
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          Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 17:41:57 +0000
          Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: A propos du rationalisme, du scientisme et de l'intelligence

           
          We are grateful to you for drawing our attention to the edifying video material on matriarchy available at http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t875338/

          We could not agree more on the challenging content of those four sound messages of yours on rationalism, intelligence, and scientism that were posted onto that forum.

          You are most welcome to elaborate on these issues on evola_as_he_is. We would ask you to do so in English, since this is an English-speaking forum.

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          --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, Roue Solaire <rouesolaire@...> wrote:
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          > Bonjour,
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          > J'ai rédigé il y a deux mois quelques messages (71 au total) sur le forum internet "stormfront" abordant - entre autres - ces sujets et reprenant plusieurs de vos arguments. Voici les quatre principaux.
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          > http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t873652-21/#post10090227
          > http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t873652-25/#post10093544
          > http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t873652-28/#post10097621
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          > http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t877898/#post10137749
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          > J'aimerais savoir ce que vous en pensez.
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          > Cordialement,
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          > P.S.
          > Si cela vous intéresse, de nombreuses vidéos sur différents matriarcats : http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t875338/
          > Le compte you(tre)tube de la gynécocrate qui a posté toutes ces vidéos : http://www.youtube.com/user/MATRIARCAT/videos
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        • Julius
          This seems to be a typical example of the innate chuzpah of the self-proclaimed chosen people adhering to a satanic anti-religion to claim the creatorshop of
          Message 4 of 28 , May 14 12:19 PM
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            This seems to be a typical example of the innate chuzpah of the self-proclaimed chosen people adhering to a satanic anti-religion to claim the creatorshop of "God" and Monotheism.

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            > > Si cela vous intéresse, de nombreuses vidéos sur différents matriarcats : http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t875338/
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            > > Le compte you(tre)tube de la gynécocrate qui a posté toutes ces vidéos : http://www.youtube.com/user/MATRIARCAT/videos
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          • Michael Lord
            Does anyone know this book or the author?
            Message 5 of 28 , May 14 7:14 PM
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              Does anyone know this book or the author?
              http://www.amazon.com/Julius-Evola-Sufi-Rome-ebook/dp/B0082BSGFU/ref=sr_1_4?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1337013999&sr=1-4
              Could it possibly be legitimate? The author claims he was a follower of Evola in Rome.

            • Evola
              Quite the contrary. For they do not boast about their huge contribution to the development of modern science and, especially to that of applied modern science.
              Message 6 of 28 , May 14 7:25 PM
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                Quite the contrary. For they do not boast about their huge contribution to the development of modern science and, especially to that of applied modern science. If they did, they would ruin at the same time the misleading belief they have also largely contributed to impress upon the general public and also to a less general public that modern science is intrinsically white, and that, therefore, the white man is responsible for all the evils of this world.

                The list which W. Sombart dreamt of being able to compile of all the inventions which technology, trade and commerce owe to the Jews (see `The Jews and Modern Capitalism', p. 108 - http://socserv2.socsci.mcmaster.ca/econ/ugcm/3ll3/sombart/jews.pdf), while being hardly "fascinating' from our point of view, would certainly be edifying. This author of Jewish origin completely disagreed with the general view that "the Jews have no inventive powers ; that not only technical but also economic discoveries were made by non-Jews alone, and that the Jews have always been able cleverly to utilize the ideas of others," since "We meet with Jewish inventors in the sphere of technical science, and certainly in that of economics,". (ibid. p. 9, ibid). Even if this assertion was true, this does not alter the fact that none of the inventions listed at http://boulderjewishnews.org/2009/an-informal-list-of-jewish-inventions-innovations-and-radical-ideas/ and in `The Jews and Modern Capitalism` can be seriously considered as positive in terms of quality, when they are not downright negative.

                To study this issue in more detail, see "zero (0)" (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evola_as_he_is/message/1158)


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              • Evola
                Father Frank Gelli was born in Rome. He worked there as a freelance journalist and playwright. In 1973 he came to England as a correspondent of the drama
                Message 7 of 28 , May 14 7:54 PM
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                  "Father Frank Gelli was born in Rome. He worked there as a freelance journalist and playwright. In 1973 he came to England as a correspondent of the drama magazine Sipario. After achieving degrees in philosophy, theology and education from London and Oxford Universities, in 1986 he was ordained as an Anglican priest. From 1989 to 1991 he was chaplain of the church of St Nicholas, Ankara, Turkey.

                  Curate of Kensington until 1999, he has since devoted his energies to the twin tasks of writing full-time and commitment to inter-religious dialogue. He is founder and coordinator of the Arkadash Network, a spiritual fellowship devoted to Muslim-Christian friendship and reconciliation. His interests range over literature, poetry, painting, arts, spirituality and, especially, mysticism. He has just finished writing a book on the Prophet Muhammad and is currently working on another book on Jesus."

                  Could the Italian surname of this individual be pronounced the same way as the English word for a soft, semisolid food substance with a resilient consistency, made by the setting of a liquid containing pectin or gelatin or by the addition of gelatin to a liquid, especially such a substance made of fruit juice containing pectin boiled with sugar ?




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                  --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, Michael Lord <ouro_boros@...> wrote:
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                  > http://www.amazon.com/Julius-Evola-Sufi-Rome-ebook/dp/B0082BSGFU/ref=sr_1_4?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1337013999&sr=1-4
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                • rouesolaire
                  My English isn t very accurate but I guess some practice is going to give me the opportunity to improve it. I am going to do my best to be as clear as
                  Message 8 of 28 , May 15 12:51 AM
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                    My English isn't very accurate but I guess some practice is going to give me the opportunity to improve it. I am going to do my best to be as clear as possible, avoiding English mistakes as I can.
                    I think the best thing to do is to illustrate what I have explained in my previous posts by some concise examples taken among hundreds existing.



                    - Corruption
                    In Aryan societies there were always noble men like Cato the Elder (who should be a model for us) to efficiently fight corruption whatever form it took. In one hand, we can even say that there never was organized crime in Aryan societies but at worst some isolated criminals and small bandits band which were often quickly eradicated. In the other hand, it's the entire contrary in Asian "societies" where corruption is endemic and where criminal organizations are implanted for a while. It's why the desaryanization of Europe, which corresponded to its Asianization among others, has seen the emergence of corruption and organized crime.
                    To prove what I say, which are the most powerful criminal organizations in the world, except Central and South America? The Jewish, "Italian" (which is Semitic), Albanian, Chechen, Japanese and Chinese ones. They are all composed of Jews, Semites and Asians, so of Orientals.


                    - Different types of political systems
                    In Roman Empire (even the "Semitic" one) if the emperor was "bad" (harmed his people and the interest of the Empire) his destiny was fixed quickly: the death (often by the hands of the Praetorian Guard). In Semitic territories tyrants could do whatever they want without being disturbed. It's one of the hundreds deep oppositions between Aryan society and Oriental/Semitic despotates. In Semitic ones there isn't justice.
                    While we're at is we can mention two Semitic "Roman" emperors: Caracalla and Elagabalus (1) .
                    The first gave, through the "edict of Caracalla", the citizenship to all freemen throughout the Roman Empire. The second is well known for having been subjected to women and even indirectly giving them political power.
                    So, it was nothing else - from these two emperors - but a step towards egalitarianism, modern democracy and feminization of the Indo-Europeans societies.
                    In the bottom despotism (tyranny of an untouchable and often illegitimate despot who can act against the interest of his own people), democracy (tyranny of the mass against the elite) and theocracy (which is in fact a masked form of despotism) are just some forms of elite crushing, they only use different ways to perform it, while dictatorship and aristocracy are the government of the elite.
                    We can also speak about - from an Aryan viewpoint – the Asian oligarchy which is composed of scientists, academicians, scholars, economists and merchants and opposed to Aryan aristocracy which is typically composed of blood nobility, warlords and men of great (strength of) character.
                    We can say that actual Europe is democratic on the form and oligarchic on the bottom, so Semitic on the form and Asian in the bottom. Modern democracy is a deleterious illusion that allows oligarchs - who have Jewish (who are mongrels of all races), Negroid, Semitic, Asian and non-Aryan blood and want to exterminate "Whites" and most of all the latest Aryans - to circumvent the Europeans.


                    - Modern democracy
                    I previously said that theocracy was masked despotism but in fact this must be qualified because modern democracy is more or less theocratic inspiration and isn't a despotic system. The Semite Girolamo Savonarola introduced in Florence a theological-democratic system.
                    Everyone knows that Europeans have always been reluctant to theocracy. The feminine pseudo-principles worn by christianism, which has the form of a religion but is in reality from an Aryan viewpoint an anti-Aryan revolutionary ideology, could only be adopted by them - after centuries of Jewish propaganda and other forms of psychological warfare, directly inspired by the teachings of the Chinese Sun Tzu, aimed at destroying Europeans mentally and effeminate them - by making the form acceptable, in secularizing Christianism by changing his shape. The old shape was "religious" (in the Semitic significance of the term), the new one will have the shape of a secular legislation. This is the case, to take the best known example, of the declaration of human rights.


                    - War
                    The very feminine psychological war which was totally unknown in the ancient Aryan world but very developed in the writings of Sun Tzu is nowadays present everywhere in West. In addition, applied oriental science has made war totally different from what it once was and has facilitated the entry of women in the military.


                    - Medicine
                    The Semitic modern medicine has for main goal to make people who are healthy sick and to maintain people who are sick in life; it's the best way to do business. Moreover I absolutely don't believe in the alleged improvements of living conditions and "life expectancy" claimed by liar media and scientists. Firstly it's known that in ancient times Aryans Europeans were generally in better health than today populace and that some famous ones lived over 90 years. For example Polybius died at age 82 of a riding accident. Nowadays how many Europeans over 70 years don't take medical treatment or are in good health (physically and mentally)? Very little. How many 82 years old Europeans could ride a horse for hours?
                    In addition, modern medicine has made the mass comfort abortion possible, which has prevented the birth of tens of millions of White babies, while this medicine allows anti-natural in-vitro fertilization and artificial insemination and some kinds of dysgenism.


                    - Economy
                    Firstly, the modern, oriental meaning of the economy isn't the same as that defined in the Indo-Europeans societies. Anyone who wants to know what economy means in the Indo-European viewpoint can read "Economics" of Xenophon or pseudo-Aristotle.
                    Eastern "societies" have the peculiarity that - because of their natural bargaining – economy prevails within them. That wasn't the case in Aryan societies and economy has progressively become an obsession as Europe physically and mentally orientalized herself. The fact is that everything is nowadays considered as a business in West.


                    - Linearity and cyclicality of "history"
                    Today almost everyone believes in the linear view of history. The Semitic conception of "history" is linear; it has a beginning, an end and evolves in a certain direction (has a tropism). The most representative cases are the Abrahamic "religions" with their "World creation" and their "end of the World". This is the contrary of the Aryan conception of "history" which is cyclic.
                    Moreover the most recent form of ideology promoting historical linearity is that of Jew Marx who had Asian and Semitic blood. He theorized the historical materialism which states that the history of "humanity" is shaped by the relationship between social classes.
                    According to this theory, in prehistory all men lived in a paradisiacal communist community. -> The paradise of Adam and Eve.
                    History begins with technical progress which is considered as the factor which has made the enslavement of man possible to landlords -> The original sin that marks the beginning of the enslavement of man to the (d)evil and his fall to earth.
                    Finally, we jump ahead to the last step. All social classes disappear and the international communist community is being established forever-> This is heaven on Earth of Jehovah's Witnesses where "there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."
                    It's the opposite of the Aryan conception of history where society is founded (often) during the Golden Age.
                    After the beginning of this Age there is a foundation war between the third caste and the alliance of the second and first castes. After long battles there are no vanquishers so the three castes decide to unite to found the Aryan society. Then there is no friction or problems between the three castes until the beginning of the Kali Yuga which will see the gradual destruction of the Aryan society.
                    In conclusion I can add that creationism and evolutionism, which are straight from the Semitic mind, are not opposites but the two sides of the same coin, as I have explained in prior posts.


                    - The emphasis on aesthetics
                    There is no need to develop this part but just to point out that today aesthetics prevails in the West, what is materialistic, superficial and which is a sign of feminization of the society.
                    In this regard I have been stroked by the movie "american psycho" whose main protagonist is the Jewish trader "Bateman", because he is an illustration of the feminine, superficial, parasitic, neurotic, psychotic, destructive and autodestructive model which is becoming the new reality of the Western man.


                    - Talking shop
                    In our modern West society talking shop prevails.
                    A delirious example of this kind of feminization is that in big enterprises (the big ones are those which are the most feminized) there are more and more people hired to "solve" problems and conflicts between employees. So, when you have a problem with someone you will see the "mediator" rather than the first person. This is completely delirious and a sign of the emergence of the effeminate "elusive man" which is the result of the "democratic" West we live in. A good example of this "elusive man" is the one pointed by Hitler in his critique of parliamentarianism in "Mein Kampf".


                    - Animals
                    Aryans didn't hate animals because they lived in harmony with nature and in communion with the universe. It's not the case of Orientals who like to make them suffered; convincing examples are Halal and Kosher slaughters and the fact that in Asia millions of animals are tortured (to death) each year. It's interesting to note that sadism (and masochism) are (destructive and autodestructive) feminine impulses; so it's not surprising to find them in Orientals because they have a feminine soul. About sadism you can read about the different treatment of slaves in the Indo-European and the Semitic worlds.
                    Now let's talk about the fish. It's known that fish were despised by Aryans (so much that they didn't eat them even when they were in areas full of them) unlike Asians who appreciate them a lot. A crucial point is that fish is a sacred animal and a major symbol of christianity. This example shows that Christianization has not only been a Semitization but also an Asianization.


                    - Sexuality
                    Nowadays sexuality is considered only as a way of reproduction or in a hedonistic way. Sexuality is therefore devoid of any higher principle.
                    Consider sexuality only as a way of reproduction (like in abrahamic "religions") is characteristic of eastern matriarchies in which women are considered as goddesses because they can give birth. Consider sexuality only in a hedonistic way indicates the presence of a negroid soul.
                    About the reproductive side even the reproduction itself is devoid of any principle because for non-Aryans, children are only seen in an utilitarian way whereas for Aryans, children are the blood of their blood, the perpetuation of their race. This lowering is reflected in the West especially among the bourgeoisie for whom having children is a social convention, which corresponds to an Asianization.
                    About the hedonist side, which was made possible mainly through Jewish pornography, we can say that it has fed into the mind of westerns a false caricature negroid image of what manhood is, which is in total opposition to what it was in the Aryan world. Moreover the hedonization of the sexuality through pornography and internet causes progressive loss of real sex. There are two reasons behind the fact that people speak more and more about sex outside their private life. The first is that loss of real sex, the second is the infantilization and negrification which causes the loss of decency (indeed as an element of private life sexuality has to be kept in privacy and not discussed outside, if not it's a violation of intimacy). In addition pornography is mainly a way of perversion of sexuality and relations to sexuality. Whites who have no regular sex will sink into a porn addiction that will over the long term make them impotent. It also transforms a natural and healthy sexuality, which is a need, in an unhealthy and against nature sexuality, which is a desire.
                    Eastern "societies" (especially Semitic ones) are known to be very sensual. Nowadays in the West it's clear that there is a latent perverse form of sexuality, propagated by advertisements and media (for example) which can only lead to frustration.
                    Finally, it's wise to note that the only one society in which there was no prostitution was the Aryan Polis Sparta. Indeed Sparta was autarkic and closed to outside influences until its decline and has, as a consequence, succeed in canalizing its people, rise it spiritually and confer it a soul nobility. It's the opposite of the former Eastern "societies" where sacred prostitution was practiced. Nowadays prostitution in all its forms is widespread so much in the West than it can only be the sign of an orientalization.





                    (1) If you want more information about them you can, for example, check their wikipedia article.
                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracalla
                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliogabale





                    P.S.
                    We must ensure the survival and regeneration of our holy and sacred Aryan race, which unfortunately has been largely mixed. This is the most important of our duties.





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                    "This article http://boulderjewishnews.org/2009/an-informal-list-of-jewish-inventions-innovations-and-radical-ideas (mentioned in one of your messages) drew my attention.
                    What then is modernity, if not 'the death of cultures' by erecting a virtual
                    reality where otherwise things would be within reach - be it music performances,
                    public art and monumental sculptures etc. etc."


                    What will happen when – at short or medium term - the "Whites" living in cities won't have – following the huge monetary, financial and economic crash which will finally happen one day or another - water, food, electricity, fuels and police or weapons to protect them? They won't last one week. But as long as their fictive mental universe is standing they think everything is OK.

                    During and after the destruction of the Aryan spirit and soul the Semites have gradually infected Aryans with a virtual mental universe to better manipulate and exterminate them; This is what has and is happening. The vast majority of "Whites" people don't live in reality but in this fictive mental universe.
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                  • Julius
                    Your comment is very true as the cited list contains almost exclusively accomplishments of modernity. Who would, for example, challenge the jewish claim to
                    Message 9 of 28 , May 15 11:28 AM
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                      Your comment is very true as the cited list contains almost exclusively accomplishments of modernity. Who would, for example, challenge the jewish claim to having contributed to culture (a term already problematic in itself) such innovations as "Hollywood, the Sit-Com, the Long Playing Record, Woodstock, Sound Movies, Videotape, Color Television, Instant Photography, Holography"?

                      My notice however was referring to two particular items in this list, which are completely incongruous to the rest, namely "God" and "monotheism". It is actually a modern myth that Jews invented monotheism, an assertion not even worth serious consideration. My point was that the jewish "religion" must be considered as virtually antipoding religion (or better: pietas/fas) in a traditional sense. In this context Evola speaks of an "antitraditional virus" of the semitic soul.

                      I may add one thought: The jewish, in particular talmudic (Khazar -?) belief system has in its center the existence of the own "chosen" people and its eventual materialistic supremacy over the others. Setting the focus of the cult on the own national (or rather: anti-national) entity in the sense of the Ego of a group - a worldly being - in stead of the metaphysical order and objective spiritual realisation must be considered as "demonic" or "satanic", as it is an outright inversion of the understanding of blood as the fundament of a spiritual race.

                      In this sense, the jewish "religion" must be considered as the anti-religion or sub-religion, just as their race, as stressed by Evola ( in 'Sintesi di dottrina della razza' if I remember correctly), is constituting the anti-race, the sub-race.


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                      --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" <evola_as_he_is@...> wrote:
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                      > Quite the contrary. For they do not boast about their huge contribution to the development of modern science and, especially to that of applied modern science. If they did, they would ruin at the same time the misleading belief they have also largely contributed to impress upon the general public and also to a less general public that modern science is intrinsically white, and that, therefore, the white man is responsible for all the evils of this world.
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                      > The list which W. Sombart dreamt of being able to compile of all the inventions which technology, trade and commerce owe to the Jews (see `The Jews and Modern Capitalism', p. 108 - http://socserv2.socsci.mcmaster.ca/econ/ugcm/3ll3/sombart/jews.pdf), while being hardly "fascinating' from our point of view, would certainly be edifying. This author of Jewish origin completely disagreed with the general view that "the Jews have no inventive powers ; that not only technical but also economic discoveries were made by non-Jews alone, and that the Jews have always been able cleverly to utilize the ideas of others," since "We meet with Jewish inventors in the sphere of technical science, and certainly in that of economics,". (ibid. p. 9, ibid). Even if this assertion was true, this does not alter the fact that none of the inventions listed at http://boulderjewishnews.org/2009/an-informal-list-of-jewish-inventions-innovations-and-radical-ideas/ and in `The Jews and Modern Capitalism` can be seriously considered as positive in terms of quality, when they are not downright negative.
                      >
                      > To study this issue in more detail, see "zero (0)" (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evola_as_he_is/message/1158)
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                      > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Julius" <integral_tradition@> wrote:
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                      > > This seems to be a typical example of the innate chuzpah of the self-proclaimed chosen people adhering to a satanic anti-religion to claim the creatorshop of "God" and Monotheism.
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                      > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "G. van der Heide" <g.vdheide@> wrote:
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                      > > > This article http://boulderjewishnews.org/2009/an-informal-list-of-jewish-inventions-innovations-and-radical-ideas (mentioned in one of your messages) drew my attention. What then is modernity, if not 'the death of cultures' by erecting a virtual reality where otherwise things would be within reach - be it music performances, public art and monumental sculptures etc. etc.
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                      > > > To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                      > > > From: evola_as_he_is@
                      > > > Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 17:41:57 +0000
                      > > > Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: A propos du rationalisme, du scientisme et de l'intelligence
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                      > > > We are grateful to you for drawing our attention to the edifying video material on matriarchy available at http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t875338/
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                      > > > We could not agree more on the challenging content of those four sound messages of yours on rationalism, intelligence, and scientism that were posted onto that forum.
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                      > > > You are most welcome to elaborate on these issues on evola_as_he_is. We would ask you to do so in English, since this is an English-speaking forum.
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                      > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, Roue Solaire <rouesolaire@> wrote:
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                      > > > > Bonjour,
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                      > > > > J'ai rédigé il y a deux mois quelques messages (71 au total) sur le forum internet "stormfront" abordant - entre autres - ces sujets et reprenant plusieurs de vos arguments. Voici les quatre principaux.
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                      > > > > http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t873652-21/#post10090227
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                      > > > > Cordialement,
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                      > > > > Si cela vous intéresse, de nombreuses vidéos sur différents matriarcats : http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t875338/
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                      > > > > Le compte you(tre)tube de la gynécocrate qui a posté toutes ces vidéos : http://www.youtube.com/user/MATRIARCAT/videos
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                    • Evola
                      Each of these points, which have been discussed here more or less at length, except food s, and, more particularly, fish s, deserves further study. Keeping to
                      Message 10 of 28 , May 15 6:37 PM
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                        Each of these points, which have been discussed here more or less at length, except food's, and, more particularly, fish's, deserves further study. Keeping to this particular point, it is worth noting that cognate names for fishes are almost lacking in the Indo-Germanic languages. It seems that "it is only after their separation that the Indo-Germanic peoples seem to have turned their attention to fishing, and to have acquired a taste for fish as food. In the hymns of the Rigveda, fishing is still wholly unknown (cf. Zimmer, Altindisches Lehen, p. 26) ; and so, too, in the Homeric period it is only in times of extremity that fish is used by the heroes as food (Od. xii. 330 ; iv. 368)" (Prehistoric antiquities of the Aryan peoples, p. 118) So fish seems to have been unknown as food in the primeval Indo-European period. "As a rule fishing appears in close conjunction with the beginnings of navigation, indeed often is the starting-point of it. It must, therefore, be once more insisted upon that in the vocabulary of the original Indo-European language there is neither a collective term for the general notion of fish, nor an individual name for any particular kind of fish." (ibid., p. 354)

                        The fact that, according to Bede, St Wilfrid taught Northumbrians stricken by famine "how to get food by fishing, for both the sea and the rivers abounded with fish but the people had no knowledge of fishing except for eels alone" seems to indicate that the ancient Britons did not consume much fish. In fact, it would seem they stuck mostly to eels (The history of the Anglo-Saxons from the earliest period to the Norman Conquest, Volume 2 , p. 198).

                        No reference is made to proto-Germans nor to early Germans in W. rRdcliffe's 'Fishing from the earliest times' http://archive.org/details/fishingfromearli00radc

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                        --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "rouesolaire" <rouesolaire@...> wrote:
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                        > My English isn't very accurate but I guess some practice is going to give me the opportunity to improve it. I am going to do my best to be as clear as possible, avoiding English mistakes as I can.
                        > I think the best thing to do is to illustrate what I have explained in my previous posts by some concise examples taken among hundreds existing.
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                        >
                        >
                        > - Corruption
                        > In Aryan societies there were always noble men like Cato the Elder (who should be a model for us) to efficiently fight corruption whatever form it took. In one hand, we can even say that there never was organized crime in Aryan societies but at worst some isolated criminals and small bandits band which were often quickly eradicated. In the other hand, it's the entire contrary in Asian "societies" where corruption is endemic and where criminal organizations are implanted for a while. It's why the desaryanization of Europe, which corresponded to its Asianization among others, has seen the emergence of corruption and organized crime.
                        > To prove what I say, which are the most powerful criminal organizations in the world, except Central and South America? The Jewish, "Italian" (which is Semitic), Albanian, Chechen, Japanese and Chinese ones. They are all composed of Jews, Semites and Asians, so of Orientals.
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                        > - Different types of political systems
                        > In Roman Empire (even the "Semitic" one) if the emperor was "bad" (harmed his people and the interest of the Empire) his destiny was fixed quickly: the death (often by the hands of the Praetorian Guard). In Semitic territories tyrants could do whatever they want without being disturbed. It's one of the hundreds deep oppositions between Aryan society and Oriental/Semitic despotates. In Semitic ones there isn't justice.
                        > While we're at is we can mention two Semitic "Roman" emperors: Caracalla and Elagabalus (1) .
                        > The first gave, through the "edict of Caracalla", the citizenship to all freemen throughout the Roman Empire. The second is well known for having been subjected to women and even indirectly giving them political power.
                        > So, it was nothing else - from these two emperors - but a step towards egalitarianism, modern democracy and feminization of the Indo-Europeans societies.
                        > In the bottom despotism (tyranny of an untouchable and often illegitimate despot who can act against the interest of his own people), democracy (tyranny of the mass against the elite) and theocracy (which is in fact a masked form of despotism) are just some forms of elite crushing, they only use different ways to perform it, while dictatorship and aristocracy are the government of the elite.
                        > We can also speak about - from an Aryan viewpoint – the Asian oligarchy which is composed of scientists, academicians, scholars, economists and merchants and opposed to Aryan aristocracy which is typically composed of blood nobility, warlords and men of great (strength of) character.
                        > We can say that actual Europe is democratic on the form and oligarchic on the bottom, so Semitic on the form and Asian in the bottom. Modern democracy is a deleterious illusion that allows oligarchs - who have Jewish (who are mongrels of all races), Negroid, Semitic, Asian and non-Aryan blood and want to exterminate "Whites" and most of all the latest Aryans - to circumvent the Europeans.
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                        > - Modern democracy
                        > I previously said that theocracy was masked despotism but in fact this must be qualified because modern democracy is more or less theocratic inspiration and isn't a despotic system. The Semite Girolamo Savonarola introduced in Florence a theological-democratic system.
                        > Everyone knows that Europeans have always been reluctant to theocracy. The feminine pseudo-principles worn by christianism, which has the form of a religion but is in reality from an Aryan viewpoint an anti-Aryan revolutionary ideology, could only be adopted by them - after centuries of Jewish propaganda and other forms of psychological warfare, directly inspired by the teachings of the Chinese Sun Tzu, aimed at destroying Europeans mentally and effeminate them - by making the form acceptable, in secularizing Christianism by changing his shape. The old shape was "religious" (in the Semitic significance of the term), the new one will have the shape of a secular legislation. This is the case, to take the best known example, of the declaration of human rights.
                        >
                        >
                        > - War
                        > The very feminine psychological war which was totally unknown in the ancient Aryan world but very developed in the writings of Sun Tzu is nowadays present everywhere in West. In addition, applied oriental science has made war totally different from what it once was and has facilitated the entry of women in the military.
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                        > - Medicine
                        > The Semitic modern medicine has for main goal to make people who are healthy sick and to maintain people who are sick in life; it's the best way to do business. Moreover I absolutely don't believe in the alleged improvements of living conditions and "life expectancy" claimed by liar media and scientists. Firstly it's known that in ancient times Aryans Europeans were generally in better health than today populace and that some famous ones lived over 90 years. For example Polybius died at age 82 of a riding accident. Nowadays how many Europeans over 70 years don't take medical treatment or are in good health (physically and mentally)? Very little. How many 82 years old Europeans could ride a horse for hours?
                        > In addition, modern medicine has made the mass comfort abortion possible, which has prevented the birth of tens of millions of White babies, while this medicine allows anti-natural in-vitro fertilization and artificial insemination and some kinds of dysgenism.
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                        >
                        > - Economy
                        > Firstly, the modern, oriental meaning of the economy isn't the same as that defined in the Indo-Europeans societies. Anyone who wants to know what economy means in the Indo-European viewpoint can read "Economics" of Xenophon or pseudo-Aristotle.
                        > Eastern "societies" have the peculiarity that - because of their natural bargaining – economy prevails within them. That wasn't the case in Aryan societies and economy has progressively become an obsession as Europe physically and mentally orientalized herself. The fact is that everything is nowadays considered as a business in West.
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                        > - Linearity and cyclicality of "history"
                        > Today almost everyone believes in the linear view of history. The Semitic conception of "history" is linear; it has a beginning, an end and evolves in a certain direction (has a tropism). The most representative cases are the Abrahamic "religions" with their "World creation" and their "end of the World". This is the contrary of the Aryan conception of "history" which is cyclic.
                        > Moreover the most recent form of ideology promoting historical linearity is that of Jew Marx who had Asian and Semitic blood. He theorized the historical materialism which states that the history of "humanity" is shaped by the relationship between social classes.
                        > According to this theory, in prehistory all men lived in a paradisiacal communist community. -> The paradise of Adam and Eve.
                        > History begins with technical progress which is considered as the factor which has made the enslavement of man possible to landlords -> The original sin that marks the beginning of the enslavement of man to the (d)evil and his fall to earth.
                        > Finally, we jump ahead to the last step. All social classes disappear and the international communist community is being established forever-> This is heaven on Earth of Jehovah's Witnesses where "there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."
                        > It's the opposite of the Aryan conception of history where society is founded (often) during the Golden Age.
                        > After the beginning of this Age there is a foundation war between the third caste and the alliance of the second and first castes. After long battles there are no vanquishers so the three castes decide to unite to found the Aryan society. Then there is no friction or problems between the three castes until the beginning of the Kali Yuga which will see the gradual destruction of the Aryan society.
                        > In conclusion I can add that creationism and evolutionism, which are straight from the Semitic mind, are not opposites but the two sides of the same coin, as I have explained in prior posts.
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                        >
                        > - The emphasis on aesthetics
                        > There is no need to develop this part but just to point out that today aesthetics prevails in the West, what is materialistic, superficial and which is a sign of feminization of the society.
                        > In this regard I have been stroked by the movie "american psycho" whose main protagonist is the Jewish trader "Bateman", because he is an illustration of the feminine, superficial, parasitic, neurotic, psychotic, destructive and autodestructive model which is becoming the new reality of the Western man.
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                        > - Talking shop
                        > In our modern West society talking shop prevails.
                        > A delirious example of this kind of feminization is that in big enterprises (the big ones are those which are the most feminized) there are more and more people hired to "solve" problems and conflicts between employees. So, when you have a problem with someone you will see the "mediator" rather than the first person. This is completely delirious and a sign of the emergence of the effeminate "elusive man" which is the result of the "democratic" West we live in. A good example of this "elusive man" is the one pointed by Hitler in his critique of parliamentarianism in "Mein Kampf".
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                        > - Animals
                        > Aryans didn't hate animals because they lived in harmony with nature and in communion with the universe. It's not the case of Orientals who like to make them suffered; convincing examples are Halal and Kosher slaughters and the fact that in Asia millions of animals are tortured (to death) each year. It's interesting to note that sadism (and masochism) are (destructive and autodestructive) feminine impulses; so it's not surprising to find them in Orientals because they have a feminine soul. About sadism you can read about the different treatment of slaves in the Indo-European and the Semitic worlds.
                        > Now let's talk about the fish. It's known that fish were despised by Aryans (so much that they didn't eat them even when they were in areas full of them) unlike Asians who appreciate them a lot. A crucial point is that fish is a sacred animal and a major symbol of christianity. This example shows that Christianization has not only been a Semitization but also an Asianization.
                        >
                        >
                        > - Sexuality
                        > Nowadays sexuality is considered only as a way of reproduction or in a hedonistic way. Sexuality is therefore devoid of any higher principle.
                        > Consider sexuality only as a way of reproduction (like in abrahamic "religions") is characteristic of eastern matriarchies in which women are considered as goddesses because they can give birth. Consider sexuality only in a hedonistic way indicates the presence of a negroid soul.
                        > About the reproductive side even the reproduction itself is devoid of any principle because for non-Aryans, children are only seen in an utilitarian way whereas for Aryans, children are the blood of their blood, the perpetuation of their race. This lowering is reflected in the West especially among the bourgeoisie for whom having children is a social convention, which corresponds to an Asianization.
                        > About the hedonist side, which was made possible mainly through Jewish pornography, we can say that it has fed into the mind of westerns a false caricature negroid image of what manhood is, which is in total opposition to what it was in the Aryan world. Moreover the hedonization of the sexuality through pornography and internet causes progressive loss of real sex. There are two reasons behind the fact that people speak more and more about sex outside their private life. The first is that loss of real sex, the second is the infantilization and negrification which causes the loss of decency (indeed as an element of private life sexuality has to be kept in privacy and not discussed outside, if not it's a violation of intimacy). In addition pornography is mainly a way of perversion of sexuality and relations to sexuality. Whites who have no regular sex will sink into a porn addiction that will over the long term make them impotent. It also transforms a natural and healthy sexuality, which is a need, in an unhealthy and against nature sexuality, which is a desire.
                        > Eastern "societies" (especially Semitic ones) are known to be very sensual. Nowadays in the West it's clear that there is a latent perverse form of sexuality, propagated by advertisements and media (for example) which can only lead to frustration.
                        > Finally, it's wise to note that the only one society in which there was no prostitution was the Aryan Polis Sparta. Indeed Sparta was autarkic and closed to outside influences until its decline and has, as a consequence, succeed in canalizing its people, rise it spiritually and confer it a soul nobility. It's the opposite of the former Eastern "societies" where sacred prostitution was practiced. Nowadays prostitution in all its forms is widespread so much in the West than it can only be the sign of an orientalization.
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                        > (1) If you want more information about them you can, for example, check their wikipedia article.
                        > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracalla
                        > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliogabale
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                        > P.S.
                        > We must ensure the survival and regeneration of our holy and sacred Aryan race, which unfortunately has been largely mixed. This is the most important of our duties.
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                        > "This article http://boulderjewishnews.org/2009/an-informal-list-of-jewish-inventions-innovations-and-radical-ideas (mentioned in one of your messages) drew my attention.
                        > What then is modernity, if not 'the death of cultures' by erecting a virtual
                        > reality where otherwise things would be within reach - be it music performances,
                        > public art and monumental sculptures etc. etc."
                        >
                        >
                        > What will happen when – at short or medium term - the "Whites" living in cities won't have – following the huge monetary, financial and economic crash which will finally happen one day or another - water, food, electricity, fuels and police or weapons to protect them? They won't last one week. But as long as their fictive mental universe is standing they think everything is OK.
                        >
                        > During and after the destruction of the Aryan spirit and soul the Semites have gradually infected Aryans with a virtual mental universe to better manipulate and exterminate them; This is what has and is happening. The vast majority of "Whites" people don't live in reality but in this fictive mental universe.
                        >
                      • Hyperborean
                        So here is the proof that the Italian Julius Evola is really a Semite. It probably explains his fascination with Dada and his admiration for its Romanian
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                          So here is the "proof" that the Italian Julius Evola is really a Semite. It probably explains his fascination with Dada and his admiration for its Romanian Jewish leader, Tristan Tzara … not to mention Weininger and Michelstaedter. And there is the admiration Evola had for the Semite Girolamo Savonarola, when he wrote:

                          "In that period [i.e., the Renaissance] such a [Ario-Roman] tradition was rather more alive in a Savonarola and in other men trying to stop the extrinsicism and aestheticism from leading the remaining forces of the Aryan race in Italy to the level of an effeminate culture [cultura afroditica]."

                          And I have the final proof. Several years ago, I met an Italian countess who, as a child, had known Evola, since her Uncle and Evola were friends. She informed me that Evola often came over for dinner and discussion. I asked her what they would eat, and she informed me that it was typically "salmon".


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                          --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "rouesolaire" <rouesolaire@...> wrote:
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > My English isn't very accurate but I guess some practice is going to give me the opportunity to improve it. I am going to do my best to be as clear as possible, avoiding English mistakes as I can.
                          > I think the best thing to do is to illustrate what I have explained in my previous posts by some concise examples taken among hundreds existing.
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > - Corruption
                          > In Aryan societies there were always noble men like Cato the Elder (who should be a model for us) to efficiently fight corruption whatever form it took. In one hand, we can even say that there never was organized crime in Aryan societies but at worst some isolated criminals and small bandits band which were often quickly eradicated. In the other hand, it's the entire contrary in Asian "societies" where corruption is endemic and where criminal organizations are implanted for a while. It's why the desaryanization of Europe, which corresponded to its Asianization among others, has seen the emergence of corruption and organized crime.
                          > To prove what I say, which are the most powerful criminal organizations in the world, except Central and South America? The Jewish, "Italian" (which is Semitic), Albanian, Chechen, Japanese and Chinese ones. They are all composed of Jews, Semites and Asians, so of Orientals.
                          >
                          >
                          > - Different types of political systems
                          > In Roman Empire (even the "Semitic" one) if the emperor was "bad" (harmed his people and the interest of the Empire) his destiny was fixed quickly: the death (often by the hands of the Praetorian Guard). In Semitic territories tyrants could do whatever they want without being disturbed. It's one of the hundreds deep oppositions between Aryan society and Oriental/Semitic despotates. In Semitic ones there isn't justice.
                          > While we're at is we can mention two Semitic "Roman" emperors: Caracalla and Elagabalus (1) .
                          > The first gave, through the "edict of Caracalla", the citizenship to all freemen throughout the Roman Empire. The second is well known for having been subjected to women and even indirectly giving them political power.
                          > So, it was nothing else - from these two emperors - but a step towards egalitarianism, modern democracy and feminization of the Indo-Europeans societies.
                          > In the bottom despotism (tyranny of an untouchable and often illegitimate despot who can act against the interest of his own people), democracy (tyranny of the mass against the elite) and theocracy (which is in fact a masked form of despotism) are just some forms of elite crushing, they only use different ways to perform it, while dictatorship and aristocracy are the government of the elite.
                          > We can also speak about - from an Aryan viewpoint – the Asian oligarchy which is composed of scientists, academicians, scholars, economists and merchants and opposed to Aryan aristocracy which is typically composed of blood nobility, warlords and men of great (strength of) character.
                          > We can say that actual Europe is democratic on the form and oligarchic on the bottom, so Semitic on the form and Asian in the bottom. Modern democracy is a deleterious illusion that allows oligarchs - who have Jewish (who are mongrels of all races), Negroid, Semitic, Asian and non-Aryan blood and want to exterminate "Whites" and most of all the latest Aryans - to circumvent the Europeans.
                          >
                          >
                          > - Modern democracy
                          > I previously said that theocracy was masked despotism but in fact this must be qualified because modern democracy is more or less theocratic inspiration and isn't a despotic system. The Semite Girolamo Savonarola introduced in Florence a theological-democratic system.
                          > Everyone knows that Europeans have always been reluctant to theocracy. The feminine pseudo-principles worn by christianism, which has the form of a religion but is in reality from an Aryan viewpoint an anti-Aryan revolutionary ideology, could only be adopted by them - after centuries of Jewish propaganda and other forms of psychological warfare, directly inspired by the teachings of the Chinese Sun Tzu, aimed at destroying Europeans mentally and effeminate them - by making the form acceptable, in secularizing Christianism by changing his shape. The old shape was "religious" (in the Semitic significance of the term), the new one will have the shape of a secular legislation. This is the case, to take the best known example, of the declaration of human rights.
                          >
                          >
                          > - War
                          > The very feminine psychological war which was totally unknown in the ancient Aryan world but very developed in the writings of Sun Tzu is nowadays present everywhere in West. In addition, applied oriental science has made war totally different from what it once was and has facilitated the entry of women in the military.
                          >
                          >
                          > - Medicine
                          > The Semitic modern medicine has for main goal to make people who are healthy sick and to maintain people who are sick in life; it's the best way to do business. Moreover I absolutely don't believe in the alleged improvements of living conditions and "life expectancy" claimed by liar media and scientists. Firstly it's known that in ancient times Aryans Europeans were generally in better health than today populace and that some famous ones lived over 90 years. For example Polybius died at age 82 of a riding accident. Nowadays how many Europeans over 70 years don't take medical treatment or are in good health (physically and mentally)? Very little. How many 82 years old Europeans could ride a horse for hours?
                          > In addition, modern medicine has made the mass comfort abortion possible, which has prevented the birth of tens of millions of White babies, while this medicine allows anti-natural in-vitro fertilization and artificial insemination and some kinds of dysgenism.
                          >
                          >
                          > - Economy
                          > Firstly, the modern, oriental meaning of the economy isn't the same as that defined in the Indo-Europeans societies. Anyone who wants to know what economy means in the Indo-European viewpoint can read "Economics" of Xenophon or pseudo-Aristotle.
                          > Eastern "societies" have the peculiarity that - because of their natural bargaining – economy prevails within them. That wasn't the case in Aryan societies and economy has progressively become an obsession as Europe physically and mentally orientalized herself. The fact is that everything is nowadays considered as a business in West.
                          >
                          >
                          > - Linearity and cyclicality of "history"
                          > Today almost everyone believes in the linear view of history. The Semitic conception of "history" is linear; it has a beginning, an end and evolves in a certain direction (has a tropism). The most representative cases are the Abrahamic "religions" with their "World creation" and their "end of the World". This is the contrary of the Aryan conception of "history" which is cyclic.
                          > Moreover the most recent form of ideology promoting historical linearity is that of Jew Marx who had Asian and Semitic blood. He theorized the historical materialism which states that the history of "humanity" is shaped by the relationship between social classes.
                          > According to this theory, in prehistory all men lived in a paradisiacal communist community. -> The paradise of Adam and Eve.
                          > History begins with technical progress which is considered as the factor which has made the enslavement of man possible to landlords -> The original sin that marks the beginning of the enslavement of man to the (d)evil and his fall to earth.
                          > Finally, we jump ahead to the last step. All social classes disappear and the international communist community is being established forever-> This is heaven on Earth of Jehovah's Witnesses where "there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."
                          > It's the opposite of the Aryan conception of history where society is founded (often) during the Golden Age.
                          > After the beginning of this Age there is a foundation war between the third caste and the alliance of the second and first castes. After long battles there are no vanquishers so the three castes decide to unite to found the Aryan society. Then there is no friction or problems between the three castes until the beginning of the Kali Yuga which will see the gradual destruction of the Aryan society.
                          > In conclusion I can add that creationism and evolutionism, which are straight from the Semitic mind, are not opposites but the two sides of the same coin, as I have explained in prior posts.
                          >
                          >
                          > - The emphasis on aesthetics
                          > There is no need to develop this part but just to point out that today aesthetics prevails in the West, what is materialistic, superficial and which is a sign of feminization of the society.
                          > In this regard I have been stroked by the movie "american psycho" whose main protagonist is the Jewish trader "Bateman", because he is an illustration of the feminine, superficial, parasitic, neurotic, psychotic, destructive and autodestructive model which is becoming the new reality of the Western man.
                          >
                          >
                          > - Talking shop
                          > In our modern West society talking shop prevails.
                          > A delirious example of this kind of feminization is that in big enterprises (the big ones are those which are the most feminized) there are more and more people hired to "solve" problems and conflicts between employees. So, when you have a problem with someone you will see the "mediator" rather than the first person. This is completely delirious and a sign of the emergence of the effeminate "elusive man" which is the result of the "democratic" West we live in. A good example of this "elusive man" is the one pointed by Hitler in his critique of parliamentarianism in "Mein Kampf".
                          >
                          >
                          > - Animals
                          > Aryans didn't hate animals because they lived in harmony with nature and in communion with the universe. It's not the case of Orientals who like to make them suffered; convincing examples are Halal and Kosher slaughters and the fact that in Asia millions of animals are tortured (to death) each year. It's interesting to note that sadism (and masochism) are (destructive and autodestructive) feminine impulses; so it's not surprising to find them in Orientals because they have a feminine soul. About sadism you can read about the different treatment of slaves in the Indo-European and the Semitic worlds.
                          > Now let's talk about the fish. It's known that fish were despised by Aryans (so much that they didn't eat them even when they were in areas full of them) unlike Asians who appreciate them a lot. A crucial point is that fish is a sacred animal and a major symbol of christianity. This example shows that Christianization has not only been a Semitization but also an Asianization.
                          >
                          >
                          > - Sexuality
                          > Nowadays sexuality is considered only as a way of reproduction or in a hedonistic way. Sexuality is therefore devoid of any higher principle.
                          > Consider sexuality only as a way of reproduction (like in abrahamic "religions") is characteristic of eastern matriarchies in which women are considered as goddesses because they can give birth. Consider sexuality only in a hedonistic way indicates the presence of a negroid soul.
                          > About the reproductive side even the reproduction itself is devoid of any principle because for non-Aryans, children are only seen in an utilitarian way whereas for Aryans, children are the blood of their blood, the perpetuation of their race. This lowering is reflected in the West especially among the bourgeoisie for whom having children is a social convention, which corresponds to an Asianization.
                          > About the hedonist side, which was made possible mainly through Jewish pornography, we can say that it has fed into the mind of westerns a false caricature negroid image of what manhood is, which is in total opposition to what it was in the Aryan world. Moreover the hedonization of the sexuality through pornography and internet causes progressive loss of real sex. There are two reasons behind the fact that people speak more and more about sex outside their private life. The first is that loss of real sex, the second is the infantilization and negrification which causes the loss of decency (indeed as an element of private life sexuality has to be kept in privacy and not discussed outside, if not it's a violation of intimacy). In addition pornography is mainly a way of perversion of sexuality and relations to sexuality. Whites who have no regular sex will sink into a porn addiction that will over the long term make them impotent. It also transforms a natural and healthy sexuality, which is a need, in an unhealthy and against nature sexuality, which is a desire.
                          > Eastern "societies" (especially Semitic ones) are known to be very sensual. Nowadays in the West it's clear that there is a latent perverse form of sexuality, propagated by advertisements and media (for example) which can only lead to frustration.
                          > Finally, it's wise to note that the only one society in which there was no prostitution was the Aryan Polis Sparta. Indeed Sparta was autarkic and closed to outside influences until its decline and has, as a consequence, succeed in canalizing its people, rise it spiritually and confer it a soul nobility. It's the opposite of the former Eastern "societies" where sacred prostitution was practiced. Nowadays prostitution in all its forms is widespread so much in the West than it can only be the sign of an orientalization.
                          >
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                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > (1) If you want more information about them you can, for example, check their wikipedia article.
                          > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracalla
                          > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliogabale
                          >
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                          > P.S.
                          > We must ensure the survival and regeneration of our holy and sacred Aryan race, which unfortunately has been largely mixed. This is the most important of our duties.
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                        • Hyperborean
                          Nothing is ever so simple. For Tantric practice, fish was one of the ritual items to consume. It was forbidden, hence the lack of references to fish eating.
                          Message 12 of 28 , May 16 6:41 AM
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                            Nothing is ever so simple.

                            For Tantric practice, fish was one of the ritual items to consume. It was forbidden, hence the lack of references to fish eating.

                            Also, the ancient Greeks considered fish to be a delicacy, as would be expected considering the wonderful fish available in the Mediterranean.
                            As for Homer, this may provide a possible explanation: 



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                            --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" <evola_as_he_is@...> wrote:
                            >
                            > Each of these points, which have been discussed here more or less at length, except food's, and, more particularly, fish's, deserves further study. Keeping to this particular point, it is worth noting that cognate names for fishes are almost lacking in the Indo-Germanic languages. It seems that "it is only after their separation that the Indo-Germanic peoples seem to have turned their attention to fishing, and to have acquired a taste for fish as food. In the hymns of the Rigveda, fishing is still wholly unknown (cf. Zimmer, Altindisches Lehen, p. 26) ; and so, too, in the Homeric period it is only in times of extremity that fish is used by the heroes as food (Od. xii. 330 ; iv. 368)" (Prehistoric antiquities of the Aryan peoples, p. 118) So fish seems to have been unknown as food in the primeval Indo-European period. "As a rule fishing appears in close conjunction with the beginnings of navigation, indeed often is the starting-point of it. It must, therefore, be once more insisted upon that in the vocabulary of the original Indo-European language there is neither a collective term for the general notion of fish, nor an individual name for any particular kind of fish." (ibid., p. 354)
                            >
                            > The fact that, according to Bede, St Wilfrid taught Northumbrians stricken by famine "how to get food by fishing, for both the sea and the rivers abounded with fish but the people had no knowledge of fishing except for eels alone" seems to indicate that the ancient Britons did not consume much fish. In fact, it would seem they stuck mostly to eels (The history of the Anglo-Saxons from the earliest period to the Norman Conquest, Volume 2 , p. 198).
                            >
                            > No reference is made to proto-Germans nor to early Germans in W. rRdcliffe's 'Fishing from the earliest times' http://archive.org/details/fishingfromearli00radc
                            >

                          • vandermok
                            Right, but the salmon is not the typical food of the Sicilians and of the barons; it s the tuna that the Jew cannot eat because has no fish-scales. I assume
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                              Right, but the salmon is not the typical food of the Sicilians and of the barons; it's the tuna that the Jew cannot eat because has no fish-scales. I assume that in the local Semitic Mafia, Sacra Corona and Cosa Nostra, man does eat ritually the biblical Leviathan... 

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                              From: Hyperborean 
                               
                              So here is the "proof" that the Italian Julius Evola is really a Semite. It probably explains his fascination with Dada and his admiration for its Romanian Jewish leader, Tristan Tzara … not to mention Weininger and Michelstaedter. And there is the admiration Evola had for the Semite Girolamo Savonarola, when he wrote:

                              "In that period [i.e., the Renaissance] such a [Ario-Roman] tradition was rather more alive in a Savonarola and in other men trying to stop the extrinsicism and aestheticism from leading the remaining forces of the Aryan race in Italy to the level of an effeminate culture [cultura afroditica]."

                              And I have the final proof. Several years ago, I met an Italian countess who, as a child, had known Evola, since her Uncle and Evola were friends. She informed me that Evola often came over for dinner and discussion. I asked her what they would eat, and she informed me that it was typically "salmon".

                            • Evola
                              Fishing from the earliest times contains two well-documented chapters on fish in the Graeco-Roman civilisation. In the Mediterranean world, three influences,
                              Message 14 of 28 , May 16 3:55 PM
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                                'Fishing from the earliest times' contains two well-documented chapters on fish in the Graeco-Roman civilisation.

                                In the Mediterranean world, three influences, originally proceeding from three distinct racial stocks, of which the first was non Aryan and the two others Aryan, can be identified; The first, the most ancient, is made up of non-, pre-, and potentially anti-Aryan layers, while the second consists of racial elements which differentiated from the Aryan stock in pre-historic times, and which had already degenerated to some extent before they reached the threshold of history ; the third, consisting of much purer elements which entered history in later times, created Rome (Panorama razziale dell'Italia preromana). As to the more or less direct ancestors of these two latter stocks, namely the Indo-Aryans, there is no evidence whatsoever that they consumed fish, when archaeological findings have revealed that the craft of fishing possesses a very ancient ancestry among Asian or African peoples. Concerning Indo-European Nordic tribes - no research has confirmed the vague references made by Cesar and Pliny to Germanic tribes involved in fishing -, some scholars, out of desperation, are reduced to arguing that it is impossible that a people lived for centuries on the shores of the Baltic without itself taking to fishing.

                                What on earth does Tantrism, which "has archaic exogenous origins, and it traces its roots to an autochthonous spirituality that is visibly analogous to that of the protohistoric, pelasgic, and pre-Hellenic Mediterranean world" ('The Yoga of Power, p.5), got to do with the issue ?




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                                --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Hyperborean" <hyperborean@...> wrote:
                                >
                                > Nothing is ever so simple.
                                > For Tantric practice, fish was one of the ritual items to consume. It
                                > was forbidden, hence the lack of references to fish eating.
                                > Also, the ancient Greeks considered fish to be a delicacy, as would be
                                > expected considering the wonderful fish available in the
                                > Mediterranean.As for Homer, this may provide a possible explanation:
                                > Homeric Heroes and Fish
                                > <http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Journals/CJ/12/5/Homeric_Heroes_a\
                                > nd_Fish*.html>
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" <evola_as_he_is@>
                                > wrote:
                                > >
                                > > Each of these points, which have been discussed here more or less at
                                > length, except food's, and, more particularly, fish's, deserves further
                                > study. Keeping to this particular point, it is worth noting that cognate
                                > names for fishes are almost lacking in the Indo-Germanic languages. It
                                > seems that "it is only after their separation that the Indo-Germanic
                                > peoples seem to have turned their attention to fishing, and to have
                                > acquired a taste for fish as food. In the hymns of the Rigveda, fishing
                                > is still wholly unknown (cf. Zimmer, Altindisches Lehen, p. 26) ; and
                                > so, too, in the Homeric period it is only in times of extremity that
                                > fish is used by the heroes as food (Od. xii. 330 ; iv. 368)"
                                > (Prehistoric antiquities of the Aryan peoples, p. 118) So fish seems to
                                > have been unknown as food in the primeval Indo-European period. "As a
                                > rule fishing appears in close conjunction with the beginnings of
                                > navigation, indeed often is the starting-point of it. It must,
                                > therefore, be once more insisted upon that in the vocabulary of the
                                > original Indo-European language there is neither a collective term for
                                > the general notion of fish, nor an individual name for any particular
                                > kind of fish." (ibid., p. 354)
                                > >
                                > > The fact that, according to Bede, St Wilfrid taught Northumbrians
                                > stricken by famine "how to get food by fishing, for both the sea and the
                                > rivers abounded with fish but the people had no knowledge of fishing
                                > except for eels alone" seems to indicate that the ancient Britons did
                                > not consume much fish. In fact, it would seem they stuck mostly to eels
                                > (The history of the Anglo-Saxons from the earliest period to the Norman
                                > Conquest, Volume 2 , p. 198).
                                > >
                                > > No reference is made to proto-Germans nor to early Germans in W.
                                > rRdcliffe's 'Fishing from the earliest times'
                                > http://archive.org/details/fishingfromearli00radc
                                > >
                                >
                              • Evola
                                Three years ago, you wrote on this forum : NOTE: Just so everyone understands who qualifies as a Nordic thinker. In the Italian edition Evola singles out
                                Message 15 of 28 , May 16 4:31 PM
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                                  Three years ago, you wrote on this forum : "NOTE: Just so everyone understands who qualifies as a Nordic thinker. In the Italian edition Evola singles out Nietzsche, Weininger (an Austrian Jew who became a Protestant and suicided himself), and Michelstaedter (an Italian Jew and also a suicide). Needless to say, for the German edition all references to the latter two names were dropped, presumably on the principle: "discretion is the better part of valour."

                                  This was our reply : "With respect to your fanciful note, leaving aside that we have already mentioned twice that Weininger was half-Jewish, the fact is that that none of these three authors qualified as a Nordic thinker in Evola's eyes. The chapter is called 'Tradizione mediterranea contro tradizione cristiana', and, precisely, Nietzsche, Weininger, and Michelstaedter, were all seen by Evola as representatives of this 'Mediterranean tradition'. Hopefully, you will refrain from spreading such tendentious falsehoods about his thought on forums in which members may not have the opportunity to consult 'Imperialismo pagano'. (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evola_as_he_is/message/989)

                                  Do not bother us any longer with your idees fixes.


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                                  --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Hyperborean" <hyperborean@...> wrote:
                                  >
                                  > So here is the "proof" that the Italian Julius Evola is really a Semite. It probably explains his fascination with Dada and his admiration for its Romanian Jewish leader, Tristan Tzara … not to mention Weininger and Michelstaedter. And there is the admiration Evola had for the Semite Girolamo Savonarola, when he wrote:
                                  >
                                  > "In that period [i.e., the Renaissance] such a [Ario-Roman] tradition was rather more alive in a Savonarola and in other men trying to stop the extrinsicism and aestheticism from leading the remaining forces of the Aryan race in Italy to the level of an effeminate culture [cultura afroditica]."
                                  >
                                  > And I have the final proof. Several years ago, I met an Italian countess who, as a child, had known Evola, since her Uncle and Evola were friends. She informed me that Evola often came over for dinner and discussion. I asked her what they would eat, and she informed me that it was typically "salmon".
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "rouesolaire" <rouesolaire@> wrote:
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > My English isn't very accurate but I guess some practice is going to give me the opportunity to improve it. I am going to do my best to be as clear as possible, avoiding English mistakes as I can.
                                  > > I think the best thing to do is to illustrate what I have explained in my previous posts by some concise examples taken among hundreds existing.
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > - Corruption
                                  > > In Aryan societies there were always noble men like Cato the Elder (who should be a model for us) to efficiently fight corruption whatever form it took. In one hand, we can even say that there never was organized crime in Aryan societies but at worst some isolated criminals and small bandits band which were often quickly eradicated. In the other hand, it's the entire contrary in Asian "societies" where corruption is endemic and where criminal organizations are implanted for a while. It's why the desaryanization of Europe, which corresponded to its Asianization among others, has seen the emergence of corruption and organized crime.
                                  > > To prove what I say, which are the most powerful criminal organizations in the world, except Central and South America? The Jewish, "Italian" (which is Semitic), Albanian, Chechen, Japanese and Chinese ones. They are all composed of Jews, Semites and Asians, so of Orientals.
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > - Different types of political systems
                                  > > In Roman Empire (even the "Semitic" one) if the emperor was "bad" (harmed his people and the interest of the Empire) his destiny was fixed quickly: the death (often by the hands of the Praetorian Guard). In Semitic territories tyrants could do whatever they want without being disturbed. It's one of the hundreds deep oppositions between Aryan society and Oriental/Semitic despotates. In Semitic ones there isn't justice.
                                  > > While we're at is we can mention two Semitic "Roman" emperors: Caracalla and Elagabalus (1) .
                                  > > The first gave, through the "edict of Caracalla", the citizenship to all freemen throughout the Roman Empire. The second is well known for having been subjected to women and even indirectly giving them political power.
                                  > > So, it was nothing else - from these two emperors - but a step towards egalitarianism, modern democracy and feminization of the Indo-Europeans societies.
                                  > > In the bottom despotism (tyranny of an untouchable and often illegitimate despot who can act against the interest of his own people), democracy (tyranny of the mass against the elite) and theocracy (which is in fact a masked form of despotism) are just some forms of elite crushing, they only use different ways to perform it, while dictatorship and aristocracy are the government of the elite.
                                  > > We can also speak about - from an Aryan viewpoint – the Asian oligarchy which is composed of scientists, academicians, scholars, economists and merchants and opposed to Aryan aristocracy which is typically composed of blood nobility, warlords and men of great (strength of) character.
                                  > > We can say that actual Europe is democratic on the form and oligarchic on the bottom, so Semitic on the form and Asian in the bottom. Modern democracy is a deleterious illusion that allows oligarchs - who have Jewish (who are mongrels of all races), Negroid, Semitic, Asian and non-Aryan blood and want to exterminate "Whites" and most of all the latest Aryans - to circumvent the Europeans.
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > - Modern democracy
                                  > > I previously said that theocracy was masked despotism but in fact this must be qualified because modern democracy is more or less theocratic inspiration and isn't a despotic system. The Semite Girolamo Savonarola introduced in Florence a theological-democratic system.
                                  > > Everyone knows that Europeans have always been reluctant to theocracy. The feminine pseudo-principles worn by christianism, which has the form of a religion but is in reality from an Aryan viewpoint an anti-Aryan revolutionary ideology, could only be adopted by them - after centuries of Jewish propaganda and other forms of psychological warfare, directly inspired by the teachings of the Chinese Sun Tzu, aimed at destroying Europeans mentally and effeminate them - by making the form acceptable, in secularizing Christianism by changing his shape. The old shape was "religious" (in the Semitic significance of the term), the new one will have the shape of a secular legislation. This is the case, to take the best known example, of the declaration of human rights.
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > - War
                                  > > The very feminine psychological war which was totally unknown in the ancient Aryan world but very developed in the writings of Sun Tzu is nowadays present everywhere in West. In addition, applied oriental science has made war totally different from what it once was and has facilitated the entry of women in the military.
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > - Medicine
                                  > > The Semitic modern medicine has for main goal to make people who are healthy sick and to maintain people who are sick in life; it's the best way to do business. Moreover I absolutely don't believe in the alleged improvements of living conditions and "life expectancy" claimed by liar media and scientists. Firstly it's known that in ancient times Aryans Europeans were generally in better health than today populace and that some famous ones lived over 90 years. For example Polybius died at age 82 of a riding accident. Nowadays how many Europeans over 70 years don't take medical treatment or are in good health (physically and mentally)? Very little. How many 82 years old Europeans could ride a horse for hours?
                                  > > In addition, modern medicine has made the mass comfort abortion possible, which has prevented the birth of tens of millions of White babies, while this medicine allows anti-natural in-vitro fertilization and artificial insemination and some kinds of dysgenism.
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > - Economy
                                  > > Firstly, the modern, oriental meaning of the economy isn't the same as that defined in the Indo-Europeans societies. Anyone who wants to know what economy means in the Indo-European viewpoint can read "Economics" of Xenophon or pseudo-Aristotle.
                                  > > Eastern "societies" have the peculiarity that - because of their natural bargaining – economy prevails within them. That wasn't the case in Aryan societies and economy has progressively become an obsession as Europe physically and mentally orientalized herself. The fact is that everything is nowadays considered as a business in West.
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > - Linearity and cyclicality of "history"
                                  > > Today almost everyone believes in the linear view of history. The Semitic conception of "history" is linear; it has a beginning, an end and evolves in a certain direction (has a tropism). The most representative cases are the Abrahamic "religions" with their "World creation" and their "end of the World". This is the contrary of the Aryan conception of "history" which is cyclic.
                                  > > Moreover the most recent form of ideology promoting historical linearity is that of Jew Marx who had Asian and Semitic blood. He theorized the historical materialism which states that the history of "humanity" is shaped by the relationship between social classes.
                                  > > According to this theory, in prehistory all men lived in a paradisiacal communist community. -> The paradise of Adam and Eve.
                                  > > History begins with technical progress which is considered as the factor which has made the enslavement of man possible to landlords -> The original sin that marks the beginning of the enslavement of man to the (d)evil and his fall to earth.
                                  > > Finally, we jump ahead to the last step. All social classes disappear and the international communist community is being established forever-> This is heaven on Earth of Jehovah's Witnesses where "there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."
                                  > > It's the opposite of the Aryan conception of history where society is founded (often) during the Golden Age.
                                  > > After the beginning of this Age there is a foundation war between the third caste and the alliance of the second and first castes. After long battles there are no vanquishers so the three castes decide to unite to found the Aryan society. Then there is no friction or problems between the three castes until the beginning of the Kali Yuga which will see the gradual destruction of the Aryan society.
                                  > > In conclusion I can add that creationism and evolutionism, which are straight from the Semitic mind, are not opposites but the two sides of the same coin, as I have explained in prior posts.
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > - The emphasis on aesthetics
                                  > > There is no need to develop this part but just to point out that today aesthetics prevails in the West, what is materialistic, superficial and which is a sign of feminization of the society.
                                  > > In this regard I have been stroked by the movie "american psycho" whose main protagonist is the Jewish trader "Bateman", because he is an illustration of the feminine, superficial, parasitic, neurotic, psychotic, destructive and autodestructive model which is becoming the new reality of the Western man.
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > - Talking shop
                                  > > In our modern West society talking shop prevails.
                                  > > A delirious example of this kind of feminization is that in big enterprises (the big ones are those which are the most feminized) there are more and more people hired to "solve" problems and conflicts between employees. So, when you have a problem with someone you will see the "mediator" rather than the first person. This is completely delirious and a sign of the emergence of the effeminate "elusive man" which is the result of the "democratic" West we live in. A good example of this "elusive man" is the one pointed by Hitler in his critique of parliamentarianism in "Mein Kampf".
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > - Animals
                                  > > Aryans didn't hate animals because they lived in harmony with nature and in communion with the universe. It's not the case of Orientals who like to make them suffered; convincing examples are Halal and Kosher slaughters and the fact that in Asia millions of animals are tortured (to death) each year. It's interesting to note that sadism (and masochism) are (destructive and autodestructive) feminine impulses; so it's not surprising to find them in Orientals because they have a feminine soul. About sadism you can read about the different treatment of slaves in the Indo-European and the Semitic worlds.
                                  > > Now let's talk about the fish. It's known that fish were despised by Aryans (so much that they didn't eat them even when they were in areas full of them) unlike Asians who appreciate them a lot. A crucial point is that fish is a sacred animal and a major symbol of christianity. This example shows that Christianization has not only been a Semitization but also an Asianization.
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > - Sexuality
                                  > > Nowadays sexuality is considered only as a way of reproduction or in a hedonistic way. Sexuality is therefore devoid of any higher principle.
                                  > > Consider sexuality only as a way of reproduction (like in abrahamic "religions") is characteristic of eastern matriarchies in which women are considered as goddesses because they can give birth. Consider sexuality only in a hedonistic way indicates the presence of a negroid soul.
                                  > > About the reproductive side even the reproduction itself is devoid of any principle because for non-Aryans, children are only seen in an utilitarian way whereas for Aryans, children are the blood of their blood, the perpetuation of their race. This lowering is reflected in the West especially among the bourgeoisie for whom having children is a social convention, which corresponds to an Asianization.
                                  > > About the hedonist side, which was made possible mainly through Jewish pornography, we can say that it has fed into the mind of westerns a false caricature negroid image of what manhood is, which is in total opposition to what it was in the Aryan world. Moreover the hedonization of the sexuality through pornography and internet causes progressive loss of real sex. There are two reasons behind the fact that people speak more and more about sex outside their private life. The first is that loss of real sex, the second is the infantilization and negrification which causes the loss of decency (indeed as an element of private life sexuality has to be kept in privacy and not discussed outside, if not it's a violation of intimacy). In addition pornography is mainly a way of perversion of sexuality and relations to sexuality. Whites who have no regular sex will sink into a porn addiction that will over the long term make them impotent. It also transforms a natural and healthy sexuality, which is a need, in an unhealthy and against nature sexuality, which is a desire.
                                  > > Eastern "societies" (especially Semitic ones) are known to be very sensual. Nowadays in the West it's clear that there is a latent perverse form of sexuality, propagated by advertisements and media (for example) which can only lead to frustration.
                                  > > Finally, it's wise to note that the only one society in which there was no prostitution was the Aryan Polis Sparta. Indeed Sparta was autarkic and closed to outside influences until its decline and has, as a consequence, succeed in canalizing its people, rise it spiritually and confer it a soul nobility. It's the opposite of the former Eastern "societies" where sacred prostitution was practiced. Nowadays prostitution in all its forms is widespread so much in the West than it can only be the sign of an orientalization.
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > (1) If you want more information about them you can, for example, check their wikipedia article.
                                  > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracalla
                                  > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliogabale
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > P.S.
                                  > > We must ensure the survival and regeneration of our holy and sacred Aryan race, which unfortunately has been largely mixed. This is the most important of our duties.
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  >
                                • vandermok
                                  Dear owner and men among the ruins, as far I understand, CS hyperborean@bellsouth.net who got Italian roots, has been only ironical about rouesolaire and
                                  Message 16 of 28 , May 16 6:27 PM
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                                    Dear owner and men among the ruins, as far I understand, CS  hyperborean@...  who got Italian roots, has been only ironical about rouesolaire and  his disputable sentence:
                                    "which are the most powerful criminal organizations in the world, except Central and South America? The Jewish, "Italian" (which is Semitic), Albanian, Chechen, Japanese and Chinese ones. They are all composed of Jews, Semites and Asians, so of Orientals".
                                    He forgot to mention Al Capone, Calogero Vizzini, and perhaps Fu-Manchu; and we, apart from Weininger and Michelstaeder, are perhaps forgotting Robert Reininger. Evola wrote a preface to his work, see  http://www.counter-currents.com/2011/02/nihilism-the-meaning-of-life-in-nietzsche/ .
                                    But this is just the opinion of an Italian (pardon: a Semitic Italian).
                                     
                                    "When a true man speaks, does not try to be sincere, when he acts does not intend to be brave: he just pursues the justice" (Meng-Tzu, unfortunately a Chinese).

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                                    From: Evola
                                    Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 4:31 PM
                                    Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: A propos du rationalisme, du scientisme et de l'intelligence

                                     

                                    Three years ago, you wrote on this forum : "NOTE: Just so everyone understands who qualifies as a Nordic thinker. In the Italian edition Evola singles out Nietzsche, Weininger (an Austrian Jew who became a Protestant and suicided himself), and Michelstaedter (an Italian Jew and also a suicide). Needless to say, for the German edition all references to the latter two names were dropped, presumably on the principle: "discretion is the better part of valour."

                                    This was our reply : "With respect to your fanciful note, leaving aside that we have already mentioned twice that Weininger was half-Jewish, the fact is that that none of these three authors qualified as a Nordic thinker in Evola's eyes. The chapter is called 'Tradizione mediterranea contro tradizione cristiana', and, precisely, Nietzsche, Weininger, and Michelstaedter, were all seen by Evola as representatives of this 'Mediterranean tradition'. Hopefully, you will refrain from spreading such tendentious falsehoods about his thought on forums in which members may not have the opportunity to consult 'Imperialismo pagano'. (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evola_as_he_is/message/989)

                                    Do not bother us any longer with your idees fixes.

                                    --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Hyperborean" <hyperborean@...> wrote:
                                    >
                                    > So here is the "proof" that the Italian Julius Evola is really a Semite. It probably explains his fascination with Dada and his admiration for its Romanian Jewish leader, Tristan Tzara … not to mention Weininger and Michelstaedter. And there is the admiration Evola had for the Semite Girolamo Savonarola, when he wrote:
                                    >
                                    > "In that period [i.e., the Renaissance] such a [Ario-Roman] tradition was rather more alive in a Savonarola and in other men trying to stop the extrinsicism and aestheticism from leading the remaining forces of the Aryan race in Italy to the level of an effeminate culture [cultura afroditica]."
                                    >
                                    > And I have the final proof. Several years ago, I met an Italian countess who, as a child, had known Evola, since her Uncle and Evola were friends. She informed me that Evola often came over for dinner and discussion. I asked her what they would eat, and she informed me that it was typically "salmon".
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "rouesolaire" <rouesolaire@> wrote:
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > My English isn't very accurate but I guess some practice is going to give me the opportunity to improve it. I am going to do my best to be as clear as possible, avoiding English mistakes as I can.
                                    > > I think the best thing to do is to illustrate what I have explained in my previous posts by some concise examples taken among hundreds existing.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > - Corruption
                                    > > In Aryan societies there were always noble men like Cato the Elder (who should be a model for us) to efficiently fight corruption whatever form it took. In one hand, we can even say that there never was organized crime in Aryan societies but at worst some isolated criminals and small bandits band which were often quickly eradicated. In the other hand, it's the entire contrary in Asian "societies" where corruption is endemic and where criminal organizations are implanted for a while. It's why the desaryanization of Europe, which corresponded to its Asianization among others, has seen the emergence of corruption and organized crime.
                                    > > To prove what I say, which are the most powerful criminal organizations in the world, except Central and South America? The Jewish, "Italian" (which is Semitic), Albanian, Chechen, Japanese and Chinese ones. They are all composed of Jews, Semites and Asians, so of Orientals.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > - Different types of political systems
                                    > > In Roman Empire (even the "Semitic" one) if the emperor was "bad" (harmed his people and the interest of the Empire) his destiny was fixed quickly: the death (often by the hands of the Praetorian Guard). In Semitic territories tyrants could do whatever they want without being disturbed. It's one of the hundreds deep oppositions between Aryan society and Oriental/Semitic despotates. In Semitic ones there isn't justice.
                                    > > While we're at is we can mention two Semitic "Roman" emperors: Caracalla and Elagabalus (1) .
                                    > > The first gave, through the "edict of Caracalla", the citizenship to all freemen throughout the Roman Empire. The second is well known for having been subjected to women and even indirectly giving them political power.
                                    > > So, it was nothing else - from these two emperors - but a step towards egalitarianism, modern democracy and feminization of the Indo-Europeans societies.
                                    > > In the bottom despotism (tyranny of an untouchable and often illegitimate despot who can act against the interest of his own people), democracy (tyranny of the mass against the elite) and theocracy (which is in fact a masked form of despotism) are just some forms of elite crushing, they only use different ways to perform it, while dictatorship and aristocracy are the government of the elite.
                                    > > We can also speak about - from an Aryan viewpoint – the Asian oligarchy which is composed of scientists, academicians, scholars, economists and merchants and opposed to Aryan aristocracy which is typically composed of blood nobility, warlords and men of great (strength of) character.
                                    > > We can say that actual Europe is democratic on the form and oligarchic on the bottom, so Semitic on the form and Asian in the bottom. Modern democracy is a deleterious illusion that allows oligarchs - who have Jewish (who are mongrels of all races), Negroid, Semitic, Asian and non-Aryan blood and want to exterminate "Whites" and most of all the latest Aryans - to circumvent the Europeans.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > - Modern democracy
                                    > > I previously said that theocracy was masked despotism but in fact this must be qualified because modern democracy is more or less theocratic inspiration and isn't a despotic system. The Semite Girolamo Savonarola introduced in Florence a theological-democratic system.
                                    > > Everyone knows that Europeans have always been reluctant to theocracy. The feminine pseudo-principles worn by christianism, which has the form of a religion but is in reality from an Aryan viewpoint an anti-Aryan revolutionary ideology, could only be adopted by them - after centuries of Jewish propaganda and other forms of psychological warfare, directly inspired by the teachings of the Chinese Sun Tzu, aimed at destroying Europeans mentally and effeminate them - by making the form acceptable, in secularizing Christianism by changing his shape. The old shape was "religious" (in the Semitic significance of the term), the new one will have the shape of a secular legislation. This is the case, to take the best known example, of the declaration of human rights.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > - War
                                    > > The very feminine psychological war which was totally unknown in the ancient Aryan world but very developed in the writings of Sun Tzu is nowadays present everywhere in West. In addition, applied oriental science has made war totally different from what it once was and has facilitated the entry of women in the military.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > - Medicine
                                    > > The Semitic modern medicine has for main goal to make people who are healthy sick and to maintain people who are sick in life; it's the best way to do business. Moreover I absolutely don't believe in the alleged improvements of living conditions and "life expectancy" claimed by liar media and scientists. Firstly it's known that in ancient times Aryans Europeans were generally in better health than today populace and that some famous ones lived over 90 years. For example Polybius died at age 82 of a riding accident. Nowadays how many Europeans over 70 years don't take medical treatment or are in good health (physically and mentally)? Very little. How many 82 years old Europeans could ride a horse for hours?
                                    > > In addition, modern medicine has made the mass comfort abortion possible, which has prevented the birth of tens of millions of White babies, while this medicine allows anti-natural in-vitro fertilization and artificial insemination and some kinds of dysgenism.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > - Economy
                                    > > Firstly, the modern, oriental meaning of the economy isn't the same as that defined in the Indo-Europeans societies. Anyone who wants to know what economy means in the Indo-European viewpoint can read "Economics" of Xenophon or pseudo-Aristotle.
                                    > > Eastern "societies" have the peculiarity that - because of their natural bargaining – economy prevails within them. That wasn't the case in Aryan societies and economy has progressively become an obsession as Europe physically and mentally orientalized herself. The fact is that everything is nowadays considered as a business in West.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > - Linearity and cyclicality of "history"
                                    > > Today almost everyone believes in the linear view of history. The Semitic conception of "history" is linear; it has a beginning, an end and evolves in a certain direction (has a tropism). The most representative cases are the Abrahamic "religions" with their "World creation" and their "end of the World". This is the contrary of the Aryan conception of "history" which is cyclic.
                                    > > Moreover the most recent form of ideology promoting historical linearity is that of Jew Marx who had Asian and Semitic blood. He theorized the historical materialism which states that the history of "humanity" is shaped by the relationship between social classes.
                                    > > According to this theory, in prehistory all men lived in a paradisiacal communist community. -> The paradise of Adam and Eve.
                                    > > History begins with technical progress which is considered as the factor which has made the enslavement of man possible to landlords -> The original sin that marks the beginning of the enslavement of man to the (d)evil and his fall to earth.
                                    > > Finally, we jump ahead to the last step. All social classes disappear and the international communist community is being established forever-> This is heaven on Earth of Jehovah's Witnesses where "there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."
                                    > > It's the opposite of the Aryan conception of history where society is founded (often) during the Golden Age.
                                    > > After the beginning of this Age there is a foundation war between the third caste and the alliance of the second and first castes. After long battles there are no vanquishers so the three castes decide to unite to found the Aryan society. Then there is no friction or problems between the three castes until the beginning of the Kali Yuga which will see the gradual destruction of the Aryan society.
                                    > > In conclusion I can add that creationism and evolutionism, which are straight from the Semitic mind, are not opposites but the two sides of the same coin, as I have explained in prior posts.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > - The emphasis on aesthetics
                                    > > There is no need to develop this part but just to point out that today aesthetics prevails in the West, what is materialistic, superficial and which is a sign of feminization of the society.
                                    > > In this regard I have been stroked by the movie "american psycho" whose main protagonist is the Jewish trader "Bateman", because he is an illustration of the feminine, superficial, parasitic, neurotic, psychotic, destructive and autodestructive model which is becoming the new reality of the Western man.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > - Talking shop
                                    > > In our modern West society talking shop prevails.
                                    > > A delirious example of this kind of feminization is that in big enterprises (the big ones are those which are the most feminized) there are more and more people hired to "solve" problems and conflicts between employees. So, when you have a problem with someone you will see the "mediator" rather than the first person. This is completely delirious and a sign of the emergence of the effeminate "elusive man" which is the result of the "democratic" West we live in. A good example of this "elusive man" is the one pointed by Hitler in his critique of parliamentarianism in "Mein Kampf".
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > - Animals
                                    > > Aryans didn't hate animals because they lived in harmony with nature and in communion with the universe. It's not the case of Orientals who like to make them suffered; convincing examples are Halal and Kosher slaughters and the fact that in Asia millions of animals are tortured (to death) each year. It's interesting to note that sadism (and masochism) are (destructive and autodestructive) feminine impulses; so it's not surprising to find them in Orientals because they have a feminine soul. About sadism you can read about the different treatment of slaves in the Indo-European and the Semitic worlds.
                                    > > Now let's talk about the fish. It's known that fish were despised by Aryans (so much that they didn't eat them even when they were in areas full of them) unlike Asians who appreciate them a lot. A crucial point is that fish is a sacred animal and a major symbol of christianity. This example shows that Christianization has not only been a Semitization but also an Asianization.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > - Sexuality
                                    > > Nowadays sexuality is considered only as a way of reproduction or in a hedonistic way. Sexuality is therefore devoid of any higher principle.
                                    > > Consider sexuality only as a way of reproduction (like in abrahamic "religions") is characteristic of eastern matriarchies in which women are considered as goddesses because they can give birth. Consider sexuality only in a hedonistic way indicates the presence of a negroid soul.
                                    > > About the reproductive side even the reproduction itself is devoid of any principle because for non-Aryans, children are only seen in an utilitarian way whereas for Aryans, children are the blood of their blood, the perpetuation of their race. This lowering is reflected in the West especially among the bourgeoisie for whom having children is a social convention, which corresponds to an Asianization.
                                    > > About the hedonist side, which was made possible mainly through Jewish pornography, we can say that it has fed into the mind of westerns a false caricature negroid image of what manhood is, which is in total opposition to what it was in the Aryan world. Moreover the hedonization of the sexuality through pornography and internet causes progressive loss of real sex. There are two reasons behind the fact that people speak more and more about sex outside their private life. The first is that loss of real sex, the second is the infantilization and negrification which causes the loss of decency (indeed as an element of private life sexuality has to be kept in privacy and not discussed outside, if not it's a violation of intimacy). In addition pornography is mainly a way of perversion of sexuality and relations to sexuality. Whites who have no regular sex will sink into a porn addiction that will over the long term make them impotent. It also transforms a natural and healthy sexuality, which is a need, in an unhealthy and against nature sexuality, which is a desire.
                                    > > Eastern "societies" (especially Semitic ones) are known to be very sensual. Nowadays in the West it's clear that there is a latent perverse form of sexuality, propagated by advertisements and media (for example) which can only lead to frustration.
                                    > > Finally, it's wise to note that the only one society in which there was no prostitution was the Aryan Polis Sparta. Indeed Sparta was autarkic and closed to outside influences until its decline and has, as a consequence, succeed in canalizing its people, rise it spiritually and confer it a soul nobility. It's the opposite of the former Eastern "societies" where sacred prostitution was practiced. Nowadays prostitution in all its forms is widespread so much in the West than it can only be the sign of an orientalization.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > (1) If you want more information about them you can, for example, check their wikipedia article.
                                    > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracalla
                                    > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliogabale
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > P.S.
                                    > > We must ensure the survival and regeneration of our holy and sacred Aryan race, which unfortunately has been largely mixed. This is the most important of our duties.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    >

                                  • Tony Ciapo
                                    M. Carrou, I didn t realize you were maintaining a dossier on me. But it was M. rouesolaire, who claims that Italians are Semites, based on their alleged
                                    Message 17 of 28 , May 20 1:39 PM
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                                      M. Carrou, I didn’t realize you were maintaining a dossier on me. But it was M. rouesolaire, who claims that Italians are Semites, based on their alleged criminality. Perhaps he watches too many American movies. Do you expect your readers to take that claim seriously or let it pass by in silence? You need to develop a sense of irony; not everyone is as rigid as you imagine.

                                       

                                      From: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com [mailto:evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Evola
                                      Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:32 AM
                                      To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                      Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: A propos du rationalisme, du scientisme et de l'intelligence

                                       

                                       

                                      Three years ago, you wrote on this forum : "NOTE: Just so everyone understands who qualifies as a Nordic thinker. In the Italian edition Evola singles out Nietzsche, Weininger (an Austrian Jew who became a Protestant and suicided himself), and Michelstaedter (an Italian Jew and also a suicide). Needless to say, for the German edition all references to the latter two names were dropped, presumably on the principle: "discretion is the better part of valour."

                                      This was our reply : "With respect to your fanciful note, leaving aside that we have already mentioned twice that Weininger was half-Jewish, the fact is that that none of these three authors qualified as a Nordic thinker in Evola's eyes. The chapter is called 'Tradizione mediterranea contro tradizione cristiana', and, precisely, Nietzsche, Weininger, and Michelstaedter, were all seen by Evola as representatives of this 'Mediterranean tradition'. Hopefully, you will refrain from spreading such tendentious falsehoods about his thought on forums in which members may not have the opportunity to consult 'Imperialismo pagano'. (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evola_as_he_is/message/989)

                                      Do not bother us any longer with your idees fixes.

                                      Show message history
                                      --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Hyperborean" <hyperborean@...> wrote:
                                      >
                                      > So here is the "proof" that the Italian Julius Evola is really a Semite. It probably explains his fascination with Dada and his admiration for its Romanian Jewish leader, Tristan Tzara … not to mention Weininger and Michelstaedter. And there is the admiration Evola had for the Semite Girolamo Savonarola, when he wrote:
                                      >
                                      > "In that period [i.e., the Renaissance] such a [Ario-Roman] tradition was rather more alive in a Savonarola and in other men trying to stop the extrinsicism and aestheticism from leading the remaining forces of the Aryan race in Italy to the level of an effeminate culture [cultura afroditica]."
                                      >
                                      > And I have the final proof. Several years ago, I met an Italian countess who, as a child, had known Evola, since her Uncle and Evola were friends. She informed me that Evola often came over for dinner and discussion. I asked her what they would eat, and she informed me that it was typically "salmon".
                                      >
                                      >
                                      > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "rouesolaire" <rouesolaire@> wrote:
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > My English isn't very accurate but I guess some practice is going to give me the opportunity to improve it. I am going to do my best to be as clear as possible, avoiding English mistakes as I can.
                                      > > I think the best thing to do is to illustrate what I have explained in my previous posts by some concise examples taken among hundreds existing.
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > - Corruption
                                      > > In Aryan societies there were always noble men like Cato the Elder (who should be a model for us) to efficiently fight corruption whatever form it took. In one hand, we can even say that there never was organized crime in Aryan societies but at worst some isolated criminals and small bandits band which were often quickly eradicated. In the other hand, it's the entire contrary in Asian "societies" where corruption is endemic and where criminal organizations are implanted for a while. It's why the desaryanization of Europe, which corresponded to its Asianization among others, has seen the emergence of corruption and organized crime.
                                      > > To prove what I say, which are the most powerful criminal organizations in the world, except Central and South America? The Jewish, "Italian" (which is Semitic), Albanian, Chechen, Japanese and Chinese ones. They are all composed of Jews, Semites and Asians, so of Orientals.
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > - Different types of political systems
                                      > > In Roman Empire (even the "Semitic" one) if the emperor was "bad" (harmed his people and the interest of the Empire) his destiny was fixed quickly: the death (often by the hands of the Praetorian Guard). In Semitic territories tyrants could do whatever they want without being disturbed. It's one of the hundreds deep oppositions between Aryan society and Oriental/Semitic despotates. In Semitic ones there isn't justice.
                                      > > While we're at is we can mention two Semitic "Roman" emperors: Caracalla and Elagabalus (1) .
                                      > > The first gave, through the "edict of Caracalla", the citizenship to all freemen throughout the Roman Empire. The second is well known for having been subjected to women and even indirectly giving them political power.
                                      > > So, it was nothing else - from these two emperors - but a step towards egalitarianism, modern democracy and feminization of the Indo-Europeans societies.
                                      > > In the bottom despotism (tyranny of an untouchable and often illegitimate despot who can act against the interest of his own people), democracy (tyranny of the mass against the elite) and theocracy (which is in fact a masked form of despotism) are just some forms of elite crushing, they only use different ways to perform it, while dictatorship and aristocracy are the government of the elite.
                                      > > We can also speak about - from an Aryan viewpoint – the Asian oligarchy which is composed of scientists, academicians, scholars, economists and merchants and opposed to Aryan aristocracy which is typically composed of blood nobility, warlords and men of great (strength of) character.
                                      > > We can say that actual Europe is democratic on the form and oligarchic on the bottom, so Semitic on the form and Asian in the bottom. Modern democracy is a deleterious illusion that allows oligarchs - who have Jewish (who are mongrels of all races), Negroid, Semitic, Asian and non-Aryan blood and want to exterminate "Whites" and most of all the latest Aryans - to circumvent the Europeans.
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > - Modern democracy
                                      > > I previously said that theocracy was masked despotism but in fact this must be qualified because modern democracy is more or less theocratic inspiration and isn't a despotic system. The Semite Girolamo Savonarola introduced in Florence a theological-democratic system.
                                      > > Everyone knows that Europeans have always been reluctant to theocracy. The feminine pseudo-principles worn by christianism, which has the form of a religion but is in reality from an Aryan viewpoint an anti-Aryan revolutionary ideology, could only be adopted by them - after centuries of Jewish propaganda and other forms of psychological warfare, directly inspired by the teachings of the Chinese Sun Tzu, aimed at destroying Europeans mentally and effeminate them - by making the form acceptable, in secularizing Christianism by changing his shape. The old shape was "religious" (in the Semitic significance of the term), the new one will have the shape of a secular legislation. This is the case, to take the best known example, of the declaration of human rights.
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > - War
                                      > > The very feminine psychological war which was totally unknown in the ancient Aryan world but very developed in the writings of Sun Tzu is nowadays present everywhere in West. In addition, applied oriental science has made war totally different from what it once was and has facilitated the entry of women in the military.
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > - Medicine
                                      > > The Semitic modern medicine has for main goal to make people who are healthy sick and to maintain people who are sick in life; it's the best way to do business. Moreover I absolutely don't believe in the alleged improvements of living conditions and "life expectancy" claimed by liar media and scientists. Firstly it's known that in ancient times Aryans Europeans were generally in better health than today populace and that some famous ones lived over 90 years. For example Polybius died at age 82 of a riding accident. Nowadays how many Europeans over 70 years don't take medical treatment or are in good health (physically and mentally)? Very little. How many 82 years old Europeans could ride a horse for hours?
                                      > > In addition, modern medicine has made the mass comfort abortion possible, which has prevented the birth of tens of millions of White babies, while this medicine allows anti-natural in-vitro fertilization and artificial insemination and some kinds of dysgenism.
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > - Economy
                                      > > Firstly, the modern, oriental meaning of the economy isn't the same as that defined in the Indo-Europeans societies. Anyone who wants to know what economy means in the Indo-European viewpoint can read "Economics" of Xenophon or pseudo-Aristotle.
                                      > > Eastern "societies" have the peculiarity that - because of their natural bargaining – economy prevails within them. That wasn't the case in Aryan societies and economy has progressively become an obsession as Europe physically and mentally orientalized herself. The fact is that everything is nowadays considered as a business in West.
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > - Linearity and cyclicality of "history"
                                      > > Today almost everyone believes in the linear view of history. The Semitic conception of "history" is linear; it has a beginning, an end and evolves in a certain direction (has a tropism). The most representative cases are the Abrahamic "religions" with their "World creation" and their "end of the World". This is the contrary of the Aryan conception of "history" which is cyclic.
                                      > > Moreover the most recent form of ideology promoting historical linearity is that of Jew Marx who had Asian and Semitic blood. He theorized the historical materialism which states that the history of "humanity" is shaped by the relationship between social classes.
                                      > > According to this theory, in prehistory all men lived in a paradisiacal communist community. -> The paradise of Adam and Eve.
                                      > > History begins with technical progress which is considered as the factor which has made the enslavement of man possible to landlords -> The original sin that marks the beginning of the enslavement of man to the (d)evil and his fall to earth.
                                      > > Finally, we jump ahead to the last step. All social classes disappear and the international communist community is being established forever-> This is heaven on Earth of Jehovah's Witnesses where "there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."
                                      > > It's the opposite of the Aryan conception of history where society is founded (often) during the Golden Age.
                                      > > After the beginning of this Age there is a foundation war between the third caste and the alliance of the second and first castes. After long battles there are no vanquishers so the three castes decide to unite to found the Aryan society. Then there is no friction or problems between the three castes until the beginning of the Kali Yuga which will see the gradual destruction of the Aryan society.
                                      > > In conclusion I can add that creationism and evolutionism, which are straight from the Semitic mind, are not opposites but the two sides of the same coin, as I have explained in prior posts.
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > - The emphasis on aesthetics
                                      > > There is no need to develop this part but just to point out that today aesthetics prevails in the West, what is materialistic, superficial and which is a sign of feminization of the society.
                                      > > In this regard I have been stroked by the movie "american psycho" whose main protagonist is the Jewish trader "Bateman", because he is an illustration of the feminine, superficial, parasitic, neurotic, psychotic, destructive and autodestructive model which is becoming the new reality of the Western man.
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > - Talking shop
                                      > > In our modern West society talking shop prevails.
                                      > > A delirious example of this kind of feminization is that in big enterprises (the big ones are those which are the most feminized) there are more and more people hired to "solve" problems and conflicts between employees. So, when you have a problem with someone you will see the "mediator" rather than the first person. This is completely delirious and a sign of the emergence of the effeminate "elusive man" which is the result of the "democratic" West we live in. A good example of this "elusive man" is the one pointed by Hitler in his critique of parliamentarianism in "Mein Kampf".
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > - Animals
                                      > > Aryans didn't hate animals because they lived in harmony with nature and in communion with the universe. It's not the case of Orientals who like to make them suffered; convincing examples are Halal and Kosher slaughters and the fact that in Asia millions of animals are tortured (to death) each year. It's interesting to note that sadism (and masochism) are (destructive and autodestructive) feminine impulses; so it's not surprising to find them in Orientals because they have a feminine soul. About sadism you can read about the different treatment of slaves in the Indo-European and the Semitic worlds.
                                      > > Now let's talk about the fish. It's known that fish were despised by Aryans (so much that they didn't eat them even when they were in areas full of them) unlike Asians who appreciate them a lot. A crucial point is that fish is a sacred animal and a major symbol of christianity. This example shows that Christianization has not only been a Semitization but also an Asianization.
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > - Sexuality
                                      > > Nowadays sexuality is considered only as a way of reproduction or in a hedonistic way. Sexuality is therefore devoid of any higher principle.
                                      > > Consider sexuality only as a way of reproduction (like in abrahamic "religions") is characteristic of eastern matriarchies in which women are considered as goddesses because they can give birth. Consider sexuality only in a hedonistic way indicates the presence of a negroid soul.
                                      > > About the reproductive side even the reproduction itself is devoid of any principle because for non-Aryans, children are only seen in an utilitarian way whereas for Aryans, children are the blood of their blood, the perpetuation of their race. This lowering is reflected in the West especially among the bourgeoisie for whom having children is a social convention, which corresponds to an Asianization.
                                      > > About the hedonist side, which was made possible mainly through Jewish pornography, we can say that it has fed into the mind of westerns a false caricature negroid image of what manhood is, which is in total opposition to what it was in the Aryan world. Moreover the hedonization of the sexuality through pornography and internet causes progressive loss of real sex. There are two reasons behind the fact that people speak more and more about sex outside their private life. The first is that loss of real sex, the second is the infantilization and negrification which causes the loss of decency (indeed as an element of private life sexuality has to be kept in privacy and not discussed outside, if not it's a violation of intimacy). In addition pornography is mainly a way of perversion of sexuality and relations to sexuality. Whites who have no regular sex will sink into a porn addiction that will over the long term make them impotent. It also transforms a natural and healthy sexuality, which is a need, in an unhealthy and against nature sexuality, which is a desire.
                                      > > Eastern "societies" (especially Semitic ones) are known to be very sensual. Nowadays in the West it's clear that there is a latent perverse form of sexuality, propagated by advertisements and media (for example) which can only lead to frustration.
                                      > > Finally, it's wise to note that the only one society in which there was no prostitution was the Aryan Polis Sparta. Indeed Sparta was autarkic and closed to outside influences until its decline and has, as a consequence, succeed in canalizing its people, rise it spiritually and confer it a soul nobility. It's the opposite of the former Eastern "societies" where sacred prostitution was practiced. Nowadays prostitution in all its forms is widespread so much in the West than it can only be the sign of an orientalization.
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > (1) If you want more information about them you can, for example, check their wikipedia article.
                                      > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracalla
                                      > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliogabale
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > P.S.
                                      > > We must ensure the survival and regeneration of our holy and sacred Aryan race, which unfortunately has been largely mixed. This is the most important of our duties.
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      >

                                    • Evola
                                      Do not flatter yourself. We just happen to have a good memory. Don t flatter us : the mechanical, geriatric, repetitiveness of your tiresome special pleadings
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                                        Do not flatter yourself. We just happen to have a good memory. Don't flatter us : the mechanical, geriatric, repetitiveness of your tiresome special pleadings and falsities makes it easier for us. We also happen to have eyes, which allow us to see a 'search' button at the top of this page. Both of them also tell us that "rouesolaire" did not claim that all Italians are Semites, but that the so-called "Italian mafia" is filled with Jews and kindred Orientals, using a subject-verb-complement paratactic structure to make sure even acute defectives do not loose the plot : "The Jewish, "Italian" (which is Semitic), Albanian, Chechen, Japanese and Chinese ones. They are all composed of Jews, Semites and Asians, so of Orientals."

                                        This forum is meant to be a place where to discuss topics related to the work of J. Evola, going into these further, broadening them, documenting and substantiating them as far as possible, not a rantroom, not a salon, not a lodge. In keeping with this demanding task, we will take this opportunity to remind members of a study which was posted some time ago here about the race change which occurred in Rome at the beginning of our era : http://www.giveshare.org/babylon/racechange.html - a sore subject on 'White Supremacists' forums such as Stormfront, on which "rouesolaire" might come across a message we posted years ago about the estimated proportion of 'natives' with Semitic blood in countries such as Italy.



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                                        --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Tony Ciapo" <hyperborean@...> wrote:
                                        >
                                        > M. Carrou, I didn't realize you were maintaining a dossier on me. But it was
                                        > M. rouesolaire, who claims that Italians are Semites, based on their alleged
                                        > criminality. Perhaps he watches too many American movies. Do you expect your
                                        > readers to take that claim seriously or let it pass by in silence? You need
                                        > to develop a sense of irony; not everyone is as rigid as you imagine.
                                        >
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > From: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com [mailto:evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com]
                                        > On Behalf Of Evola
                                        > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:32 AM
                                        > To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                        > Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: A propos du rationalisme, du scientisme et de
                                        > l'intelligence
                                        >
                                        >
                                        >
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > Three years ago, you wrote on this forum : "NOTE: Just so everyone
                                        > understands who qualifies as a Nordic thinker. In the Italian edition Evola
                                        > singles out Nietzsche, Weininger (an Austrian Jew who became a Protestant
                                        > and suicided himself), and Michelstaedter (an Italian Jew and also a
                                        > suicide). Needless to say, for the German edition all references to the
                                        > latter two names were dropped, presumably on the principle: "discretion is
                                        > the better part of valour."
                                        >
                                        > This was our reply : "With respect to your fanciful note, leaving aside that
                                        > we have already mentioned twice that Weininger was half-Jewish, the fact is
                                        > that that none of these three authors qualified as a Nordic thinker in
                                        > Evola's eyes. The chapter is called 'Tradizione mediterranea contro
                                        > tradizione cristiana', and, precisely, Nietzsche, Weininger, and
                                        > Michelstaedter, were all seen by Evola as representatives of this
                                        > 'Mediterranean tradition'. Hopefully, you will refrain from spreading such
                                        > tendentious falsehoods about his thought on forums in which members may not
                                        > have the opportunity to consult 'Imperialismo pagano'.
                                        > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evola_as_he_is/message/989)
                                        >
                                        > Do not bother us any longer with your idees fixes.
                                        >
                                        > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                        > <mailto:evola_as_he_is%40yahoogroups.com> , "Hyperborean" <hyperborean@>
                                        > wrote:
                                        > >
                                        > > So here is the "proof" that the Italian Julius Evola is really a Semite.
                                        > It probably explains his fascination with Dada and his admiration for its
                                        > Romanian Jewish leader, Tristan Tzara . not to mention Weininger and
                                        > Michelstaedter. And there is the admiration Evola had for the Semite
                                        > Girolamo Savonarola, when he wrote:
                                        > >
                                        > > "In that period [i.e., the Renaissance] such a [Ario-Roman] tradition was
                                        > rather more alive in a Savonarola and in other men trying to stop the
                                        > extrinsicism and aestheticism from leading the remaining forces of the Aryan
                                        > race in Italy to the level of an effeminate culture [cultura afroditica]."
                                        > >
                                        > > And I have the final proof. Several years ago, I met an Italian countess
                                        > who, as a child, had known Evola, since her Uncle and Evola were friends.
                                        > She informed me that Evola often came over for dinner and discussion. I
                                        > asked her what they would eat, and she informed me that it was typically
                                        > "salmon".
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                        > <mailto:evola_as_he_is%40yahoogroups.com> , "rouesolaire" <rouesolaire@>
                                        > wrote:
                                        > > >
                                        > > >
                                        > > >
                                        > > > My English isn't very accurate but I guess some practice is going to
                                        > give me the opportunity to improve it. I am going to do my best to be as
                                        > clear as possible, avoiding English mistakes as I can.
                                        > > > I think the best thing to do is to illustrate what I have explained in
                                        > my previous posts by some concise examples taken among hundreds existing.
                                        > > >
                                        > > >
                                        > > >
                                        > > > - Corruption
                                        > > > In Aryan societies there were always noble men like Cato the Elder (who
                                        > should be a model for us) to efficiently fight corruption whatever form it
                                        > took. In one hand, we can even say that there never was organized crime in
                                        > Aryan societies but at worst some isolated criminals and small bandits band
                                        > which were often quickly eradicated. In the other hand, it's the entire
                                        > contrary in Asian "societies" where corruption is endemic and where criminal
                                        > organizations are implanted for a while. It's why the desaryanization of
                                        > Europe, which corresponded to its Asianization among others, has seen the
                                        > emergence of corruption and organized crime.
                                        > > > To prove what I say, which are the most powerful criminal organizations
                                        > in the world, except Central and South America? The Jewish, "Italian" (which
                                        > is Semitic), Albanian, Chechen, Japanese and Chinese ones. They are all
                                        > composed of Jews, Semites and Asians, so of Orientals.
                                        > > >
                                        > > >
                                        > > > - Different types of political systems
                                        > > > In Roman Empire (even the "Semitic" one) if the emperor was "bad"
                                        > (harmed his people and the interest of the Empire) his destiny was fixed
                                        > quickly: the death (often by the hands of the Praetorian Guard). In Semitic
                                        > territories tyrants could do whatever they want without being disturbed.
                                        > It's one of the hundreds deep oppositions between Aryan society and
                                        > Oriental/Semitic despotates. In Semitic ones there isn't justice.
                                        > > > While we're at is we can mention two Semitic "Roman" emperors: Caracalla
                                        > and Elagabalus (1) .
                                        > > > The first gave, through the "edict of Caracalla", the citizenship to all
                                        > freemen throughout the Roman Empire. The second is well known for having
                                        > been subjected to women and even indirectly giving them political power.
                                        > > > So, it was nothing else - from these two emperors - but a step towards
                                        > egalitarianism, modern democracy and feminization of the Indo-Europeans
                                        > societies.
                                        > > > In the bottom despotism (tyranny of an untouchable and often
                                        > illegitimate despot who can act against the interest of his own people),
                                        > democracy (tyranny of the mass against the elite) and theocracy (which is in
                                        > fact a masked form of despotism) are just some forms of elite crushing, they
                                        > only use different ways to perform it, while dictatorship and aristocracy
                                        > are the government of the elite.
                                        > > > We can also speak about - from an Aryan viewpoint - the Asian oligarchy
                                        > which is composed of scientists, academicians, scholars, economists and
                                        > merchants and opposed to Aryan aristocracy which is typically composed of
                                        > blood nobility, warlords and men of great (strength of) character.
                                        > > > We can say that actual Europe is democratic on the form and oligarchic
                                        > on the bottom, so Semitic on the form and Asian in the bottom. Modern
                                        > democracy is a deleterious illusion that allows oligarchs - who have Jewish
                                        > (who are mongrels of all races), Negroid, Semitic, Asian and non-Aryan blood
                                        > and want to exterminate "Whites" and most of all the latest Aryans - to
                                        > circumvent the Europeans.
                                        > > >
                                        > > >
                                        > > > - Modern democracy
                                        > > > I previously said that theocracy was masked despotism but in fact this
                                        > must be qualified because modern democracy is more or less theocratic
                                        > inspiration and isn't a despotic system. The Semite Girolamo Savonarola
                                        > introduced in Florence a theological-democratic system.
                                        > > > Everyone knows that Europeans have always been reluctant to theocracy.
                                        > The feminine pseudo-principles worn by christianism, which has the form of a
                                        > religion but is in reality from an Aryan viewpoint an anti-Aryan
                                        > revolutionary ideology, could only be adopted by them - after centuries of
                                        > Jewish propaganda and other forms of psychological warfare, directly
                                        > inspired by the teachings of the Chinese Sun Tzu, aimed at destroying
                                        > Europeans mentally and effeminate them - by making the form acceptable, in
                                        > secularizing Christianism by changing his shape. The old shape was
                                        > "religious" (in the Semitic significance of the term), the new one will have
                                        > the shape of a secular legislation. This is the case, to take the best known
                                        > example, of the declaration of human rights.
                                        > > >
                                        > > >
                                        > > > - War
                                        > > > The very feminine psychological war which was totally unknown in the
                                        > ancient Aryan world but very developed in the writings of Sun Tzu is
                                        > nowadays present everywhere in West. In addition, applied oriental science
                                        > has made war totally different from what it once was and has facilitated the
                                        > entry of women in the military.
                                        > > >
                                        > > >
                                        > > > - Medicine
                                        > > > The Semitic modern medicine has for main goal to make people who are
                                        > healthy sick and to maintain people who are sick in life; it's the best way
                                        > to do business. Moreover I absolutely don't believe in the alleged
                                        > improvements of living conditions and "life expectancy" claimed by liar
                                        > media and scientists. Firstly it's known that in ancient times Aryans
                                        > Europeans were generally in better health than today populace and that some
                                        > famous ones lived over 90 years. For example Polybius died at age 82 of a
                                        > riding accident. Nowadays how many Europeans over 70 years don't take
                                        > medical treatment or are in good health (physically and mentally)? Very
                                        > little. How many 82 years old Europeans could ride a horse for hours?
                                        > > > In addition, modern medicine has made the mass comfort abortion
                                        > possible, which has prevented the birth of tens of millions of White babies,
                                        > while this medicine allows anti-natural in-vitro fertilization and
                                        > artificial insemination and some kinds of dysgenism.
                                        > > >
                                        > > >
                                        > > > - Economy
                                        > > > Firstly, the modern, oriental meaning of the economy isn't the same as
                                        > that defined in the Indo-Europeans societies. Anyone who wants to know what
                                        > economy means in the Indo-European viewpoint can read "Economics" of
                                        > Xenophon or pseudo-Aristotle.
                                        > > > Eastern "societies" have the peculiarity that - because of their natural
                                        > bargaining - economy prevails within them. That wasn't the case in Aryan
                                        > societies and economy has progressively become an obsession as Europe
                                        > physically and mentally orientalized herself. The fact is that everything is
                                        > nowadays considered as a business in West.
                                        > > >
                                        > > >
                                        > > > - Linearity and cyclicality of "history"
                                        > > > Today almost everyone believes in the linear view of history. The
                                        > Semitic conception of "history" is linear; it has a beginning, an end and
                                        > evolves in a certain direction (has a tropism). The most representative
                                        > cases are the Abrahamic "religions" with their "World creation" and their
                                        > "end of the World". This is the contrary of the Aryan conception of
                                        > "history" which is cyclic.
                                        > > > Moreover the most recent form of ideology promoting historical linearity
                                        > is that of Jew Marx who had Asian and Semitic blood. He theorized the
                                        > historical materialism which states that the history of "humanity" is shaped
                                        > by the relationship between social classes.
                                        > > > According to this theory, in prehistory all men lived in a paradisiacal
                                        > communist community. -> The paradise of Adam and Eve.
                                        > > > History begins with technical progress which is considered as the factor
                                        > which has made the enslavement of man possible to landlords -> The original
                                        > sin that marks the beginning of the enslavement of man to the (d)evil and
                                        > his fall to earth.
                                        > > > Finally, we jump ahead to the last step. All social classes disappear
                                        > and the international communist community is being established forever->
                                        > This is heaven on Earth of Jehovah's Witnesses where "there is neither Jew
                                        > nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ
                                        > Jesus."
                                        > > > It's the opposite of the Aryan conception of history where society is
                                        > founded (often) during the Golden Age.
                                        > > > After the beginning of this Age there is a foundation war between the
                                        > third caste and the alliance of the second and first castes. After long
                                        > battles there are no vanquishers so the three castes decide to unite to
                                        > found the Aryan society. Then there is no friction or problems between the
                                        > three castes until the beginning of the Kali Yuga which will see the gradual
                                        > destruction of the Aryan society.
                                        > > > In conclusion I can add that creationism and evolutionism, which are
                                        > straight from the Semitic mind, are not opposites but the two sides of the
                                        > same coin, as I have explained in prior posts.
                                        > > >
                                        > > >
                                        > > > - The emphasis on aesthetics
                                        > > > There is no need to develop this part but just to point out that today
                                        > aesthetics prevails in the West, what is materialistic, superficial and
                                        > which is a sign of feminization of the society.
                                        > > > In this regard I have been stroked by the movie "american psycho" whose
                                        > main protagonist is the Jewish trader "Bateman", because he is an
                                        > illustration of the feminine, superficial, parasitic, neurotic, psychotic,
                                        > destructive and autodestructive model which is becoming the new reality of
                                        > the Western man.
                                        > > >
                                        > > >
                                        > > > - Talking shop
                                        > > > In our modern West society talking shop prevails.
                                        > > > A delirious example of this kind of feminization is that in big
                                        > enterprises (the big ones are those which are the most feminized) there are
                                        > more and more people hired to "solve" problems and conflicts between
                                        > employees. So, when you have a problem with someone you will see the
                                        > "mediator" rather than the first person. This is completely delirious and a
                                        > sign of the emergence of the effeminate "elusive man" which is the result of
                                        > the "democratic" West we live in. A good example of this "elusive man" is
                                        > the one pointed by Hitler in his critique of parliamentarianism in "Mein
                                        > Kampf".
                                        > > >
                                        > > >
                                        > > > - Animals
                                        > > > Aryans didn't hate animals because they lived in harmony with nature and
                                        > in communion with the universe. It's not the case of Orientals who like to
                                        > make them suffered; convincing examples are Halal and Kosher slaughters and
                                        > the fact that in Asia millions of animals are tortured (to death) each year.
                                        > It's interesting to note that sadism (and masochism) are (destructive and
                                        > autodestructive) feminine impulses; so it's not surprising to find them in
                                        > Orientals because they have a feminine soul. About sadism you can read about
                                        > the different treatment of slaves in the Indo-European and the Semitic
                                        > worlds.
                                        > > > Now let's talk about the fish. It's known that fish were despised by
                                        > Aryans (so much that they didn't eat them even when they were in areas full
                                        > of them) unlike Asians who appreciate them a lot. A crucial point is that
                                        > fish is a sacred animal and a major symbol of christianity. This example
                                        > shows that Christianization has not only been a Semitization but also an
                                        > Asianization.
                                        > > >
                                        > > >
                                        > > > - Sexuality
                                        > > > Nowadays sexuality is considered only as a way of reproduction or in a
                                        > hedonistic way. Sexuality is therefore devoid of any higher principle.
                                        > > > Consider sexuality only as a way of reproduction (like in abrahamic
                                        > "religions") is characteristic of eastern matriarchies in which women are
                                        > considered as goddesses because they can give birth. Consider sexuality only
                                        > in a hedonistic way indicates the presence of a negroid soul.
                                        > > > About the reproductive side even the reproduction itself is devoid of
                                        > any principle because for non-Aryans, children are only seen in an
                                        > utilitarian way whereas for Aryans, children are the blood of their blood,
                                        > the perpetuation of their race. This lowering is reflected in the West
                                        > especially among the bourgeoisie for whom having children is a social
                                        > convention, which corresponds to an Asianization.
                                        > > > About the hedonist side, which was made possible mainly through Jewish
                                        > pornography, we can say that it has fed into the mind of westerns a false
                                        > caricature negroid image of what manhood is, which is in total opposition to
                                        > what it was in the Aryan world. Moreover the hedonization of the sexuality
                                        > through pornography and internet causes progressive loss of real sex. There
                                        > are two reasons behind the fact that people speak more and more about sex
                                        > outside their private life. The first is that loss of real sex, the second
                                        > is the infantilization and negrification which causes the loss of decency
                                        > (indeed as an element of private life sexuality has to be kept in privacy
                                        > and not discussed outside, if not it's a violation of intimacy). In addition
                                        > pornography is mainly a way of perversion of sexuality and relations to
                                        > sexuality. Whites who have no regular sex will sink into a porn addiction
                                        > that will over the long term make them impotent. It also transforms a
                                        > natural and healthy sexuality, which is a need, in an unhealthy and against
                                        > nature sexuality, which is a desire.
                                        > > > Eastern "societies" (especially Semitic ones) are known to be very
                                        > sensual. Nowadays in the West it's clear that there is a latent perverse
                                        > form of sexuality, propagated by advertisements and media (for example)
                                        > which can only lead to frustration.
                                        > > > Finally, it's wise to note that the only one society in which there was
                                        > no prostitution was the Aryan Polis Sparta. Indeed Sparta was autarkic and
                                        > closed to outside influences until its decline and has, as a consequence,
                                        > succeed in canalizing its people, rise it spiritually and confer it a soul
                                        > nobility. It's the opposite of the former Eastern "societies" where sacred
                                        > prostitution was practiced. Nowadays prostitution in all its forms is
                                        > widespread so much in the West than it can only be the sign of an
                                        > orientalization.
                                        > > >
                                        > > >
                                        > > >
                                        > > >
                                        > > >
                                        > > > (1) If you want more information about them you can, for example, check
                                        > their wikipedia article.
                                        > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracalla
                                        > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliogabale
                                        > > >
                                        > > >
                                        > > >
                                        > > >
                                        > > >
                                        > > > P.S.
                                        > > > We must ensure the survival and regeneration of our holy and sacred
                                        > Aryan race, which unfortunately has been largely mixed. This is the most
                                        > important of our duties.
                                        > > >
                                        > > >
                                        > >
                                        >
                                      • Parapine Emmanuel
                                        Italy, just like most of the European countries is racially composite. Some of its components were altered by several racial admixtures all over the time, and
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                                          Italy, just like most of the European countries is racially composite. Some of its components were altered by several racial admixtures all over the time, and pointing out that fact shouldn't be understood as an insult by truly European Italians. Those who engaged in criminal activities for materialistic purposes belonged obviously to the less valuable racial parts of Italy, and it's not a coincidence if Fascists eradicated the Mafia while most of mafiosi leaders contracted an alliance with the democratic side - even though there were also (and unfortunately) some fascist mafiosi and racially dubious people in the Fascist party, racial and historical realities of the world being full of intricacies... 


                                          From: Evola <evola_as_he_is@...>
                                          To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                          Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 7:33 PM
                                          Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: A propos du rationalisme, du scientisme et de l'intelligence

                                           
                                          Do not flatter yourself. We just happen to have a good memory. Don't flatter us : the mechanical, geriatric, repetitiveness of your tiresome special pleadings and falsities makes it easier for us. We also happen to have eyes, which allow us to see a 'search' button at the top of this page. Both of them also tell us that "rouesolaire" did not claim that all Italians are Semites, but that the so-called "Italian mafia" is filled with Jews and kindred Orientals, using a subject-verb-complement paratactic structure to make sure even acute defectives do not loose the plot : "The Jewish, "Italian" (which is Semitic), Albanian, Chechen, Japanese and Chinese ones. They are all composed of Jews, Semites and Asians, so of Orientals."

                                          This forum is meant to be a place where to discuss topics related to the work of J. Evola, going into these further, broadening them, documenting and substantiating them as far as possible, not a rantroom, not a salon, not a lodge. In keeping with this demanding task, we will take this opportunity to remind members of a study which was posted some time ago here about the race change which occurred in Rome at the beginning of our era : http://www.giveshare.org/babylon/racechange.html - a sore subject on 'White Supremacists' forums such as Stormfront, on which "rouesolaire" might come across a message we posted years ago about the estimated proportion of 'natives' with Semitic blood in countries such as Italy.

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                                          --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Tony Ciapo" <hyperborean@...> wrote:
                                          >
                                          > M. Carrou, I didn't realize you were maintaining a dossier on me. But it was
                                          > M. rouesolaire, who claims that Italians are Semites, based on their alleged
                                          > criminality. Perhaps he watches too many American movies. Do you expect your
                                          > readers to take that claim seriously or let it pass by in silence? You need
                                          > to develop a sense of irony; not everyone is as rigid as you imagine.
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          > From: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com [mailto:evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com]
                                          > On Behalf Of Evola
                                          > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:32 AM
                                          > To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                          > Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: A propos du rationalisme, du scientisme et de
                                          > l'intelligence
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          > Three years ago, you wrote on this forum : "NOTE: Just so everyone
                                          > understands who qualifies as a Nordic thinker. In the Italian edition Evola
                                          > singles out Nietzsche, Weininger (an Austrian Jew who became a Protestant
                                          > and suicided himself), and Michelstaedter (an Italian Jew and also a
                                          > suicide). Needless to say, for the German edition all references to the
                                          > latter two names were dropped, presumably on the principle: "discretion is
                                          > the better part of valour."
                                          >
                                          > This was our reply : "With respect to your fanciful note, leaving aside that
                                          > we have already mentioned twice that Weininger was half-Jewish, the fact is
                                          > that that none of these three authors qualified as a Nordic thinker in
                                          > Evola's eyes. The chapter is called 'Tradizione mediterranea contro
                                          > tradizione cristiana', and, precisely, Nietzsche, Weininger, and
                                          > Michelstaedter, were all seen by Evola as representatives of this
                                          > 'Mediterranean tradition'. Hopefully, you will refrain from spreading such
                                          > tendentious falsehoods about his thought on forums in which members may not
                                          > have the opportunity to consult 'Imperialismo pagano'.
                                          > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evola_as_he_is/message/989)
                                          >
                                          > Do not bother us any longer with your idees fixes.
                                          >
                                          > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                          > <mailto:evola_as_he_is%40yahoogroups.com> , "Hyperborean" <hyperborean@>
                                          > wrote:
                                          > >
                                          > > So here is the "proof" that the Italian Julius Evola is really a Semite.
                                          > It probably explains his fascination with Dada and his admiration for its
                                          > Romanian Jewish leader, Tristan Tzara . not to mention Weininger and
                                          > Michelstaedter. And there is the admiration Evola had for the Semite
                                          > Girolamo Savonarola, when he wrote:
                                          > >
                                          > > "In that period [i.e., the Renaissance] such a [Ario-Roman] tradition was
                                          > rather more alive in a Savonarola and in other men trying to stop the
                                          > extrinsicism and aestheticism from leading the remaining forces of the Aryan
                                          > race in Italy to the level of an effeminate culture [cultura afroditica]."
                                          > >
                                          > > And I have the final proof. Several years ago, I met an Italian countess
                                          > who, as a child, had known Evola, since her Uncle and Evola were friends.
                                          > She informed me that Evola often came over for dinner and discussion. I
                                          > asked her what they would eat, and she informed me that it was typically
                                          > "salmon".
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                          > <mailto:evola_as_he_is%40yahoogroups.com> , "rouesolaire" <rouesolaire@>
                                          > wrote:
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > > My English isn't very accurate but I guess some practice is going to
                                          > give me the opportunity to improve it. I am going to do my best to be as
                                          > clear as possible, avoiding English mistakes as I can.
                                          > > > I think the best thing to do is to illustrate what I have explained in
                                          > my previous posts by some concise examples taken among hundreds existing.
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > > - Corruption
                                          > > > In Aryan societies there were always noble men like Cato the Elder (who
                                          > should be a model for us) to efficiently fight corruption whatever form it
                                          > took. In one hand, we can even say that there never was organized crime in
                                          > Aryan societies but at worst some isolated criminals and small bandits band
                                          > which were often quickly eradicated. In the other hand, it's the entire
                                          > contrary in Asian "societies" where corruption is endemic and where criminal
                                          > organizations are implanted for a while. It's why the desaryanization of
                                          > Europe, which corresponded to its Asianization among others, has seen the
                                          > emergence of corruption and organized crime.
                                          > > > To prove what I say, which are the most powerful criminal organizations
                                          > in the world, except Central and South America? The Jewish, "Italian" (which
                                          > is Semitic), Albanian, Chechen, Japanese and Chinese ones. They are all
                                          > composed of Jews, Semites and Asians, so of Orientals.
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > > - Different types of political systems
                                          > > > In Roman Empire (even the "Semitic" one) if the emperor was "bad"
                                          > (harmed his people and the interest of the Empire) his destiny was fixed
                                          > quickly: the death (often by the hands of the Praetorian Guard). In Semitic
                                          > territories tyrants could do whatever they want without being disturbed.
                                          > It's one of the hundreds deep oppositions between Aryan society and
                                          > Oriental/Semitic despotates. In Semitic ones there isn't justice.
                                          > > > While we're at is we can mention two Semitic "Roman" emperors: Caracalla
                                          > and Elagabalus (1) .
                                          > > > The first gave, through the "edict of Caracalla", the citizenship to all
                                          > freemen throughout the Roman Empire. The second is well known for having
                                          > been subjected to women and even indirectly giving them political power.
                                          > > > So, it was nothing else - from these two emperors - but a step towards
                                          > egalitarianism, modern democracy and feminization of the Indo-Europeans
                                          > societies.
                                          > > > In the bottom despotism (tyranny of an untouchable and often
                                          > illegitimate despot who can act against the interest of his own people),
                                          > democracy (tyranny of the mass against the elite) and theocracy (which is in
                                          > fact a masked form of despotism) are just some forms of elite crushing, they
                                          > only use different ways to perform it, while dictatorship and aristocracy
                                          > are the government of the elite.
                                          > > > We can also speak about - from an Aryan viewpoint - the Asian oligarchy
                                          > which is composed of scientists, academicians, scholars, economists and
                                          > merchants and opposed to Aryan aristocracy which is typically composed of
                                          > blood nobility, warlords and men of great (strength of) character.
                                          > > > We can say that actual Europe is democratic on the form and oligarchic
                                          > on the bottom, so Semitic on the form and Asian in the bottom. Modern
                                          > democracy is a deleterious illusion that allows oligarchs - who have Jewish
                                          > (who are mongrels of all races), Negroid, Semitic, Asian and non-Aryan blood
                                          > and want to exterminate "Whites" and most of all the latest Aryans - to
                                          > circumvent the Europeans.
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > > - Modern democracy
                                          > > > I previously said that theocracy was masked despotism but in fact this
                                          > must be qualified because modern democracy is more or less theocratic
                                          > inspiration and isn't a despotic system. The Semite Girolamo Savonarola
                                          > introduced in Florence a theological-democratic system.
                                          > > > Everyone knows that Europeans have always been reluctant to theocracy.
                                          > The feminine pseudo-principles worn by christianism, which has the form of a
                                          > religion but is in reality from an Aryan viewpoint an anti-Aryan
                                          > revolutionary ideology, could only be adopted by them - after centuries of
                                          > Jewish propaganda and other forms of psychological warfare, directly
                                          > inspired by the teachings of the Chinese Sun Tzu, aimed at destroying
                                          > Europeans mentally and effeminate them - by making the form acceptable, in
                                          > secularizing Christianism by changing his shape. The old shape was
                                          > "religious" (in the Semitic significance of the term), the new one will have
                                          > the shape of a secular legislation. This is the case, to take the best known
                                          > example, of the declaration of human rights.
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > > - War
                                          > > > The very feminine psychological war which was totally unknown in the
                                          > ancient Aryan world but very developed in the writings of Sun Tzu is
                                          > nowadays present everywhere in West. In addition, applied oriental science
                                          > has made war totally different from what it once was and has facilitated the
                                          > entry of women in the military.
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > > - Medicine
                                          > > > The Semitic modern medicine has for main goal to make people who are
                                          > healthy sick and to maintain people who are sick in life; it's the best way
                                          > to do business. Moreover I absolutely don't believe in the alleged
                                          > improvements of living conditions and "life expectancy" claimed by liar
                                          > media and scientists. Firstly it's known that in ancient times Aryans
                                          > Europeans were generally in better health than today populace and that some
                                          > famous ones lived over 90 years. For example Polybius died at age 82 of a
                                          > riding accident. Nowadays how many Europeans over 70 years don't take
                                          > medical treatment or are in good health (physically and mentally)? Very
                                          > little. How many 82 years old Europeans could ride a horse for hours?
                                          > > > In addition, modern medicine has made the mass comfort abortion
                                          > possible, which has prevented the birth of tens of millions of White babies,
                                          > while this medicine allows anti-natural in-vitro fertilization and
                                          > artificial insemination and some kinds of dysgenism.
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > > - Economy
                                          > > > Firstly, the modern, oriental meaning of the economy isn't the same as
                                          > that defined in the Indo-Europeans societies. Anyone who wants to know what
                                          > economy means in the Indo-European viewpoint can read "Economics" of
                                          > Xenophon or pseudo-Aristotle.
                                          > > > Eastern "societies" have the peculiarity that - because of their natural
                                          > bargaining - economy prevails within them. That wasn't the case in Aryan
                                          > societies and economy has progressively become an obsession as Europe
                                          > physically and mentally orientalized herself. The fact is that everything is
                                          > nowadays considered as a business in West.
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > > - Linearity and cyclicality of "history"
                                          > > > Today almost everyone believes in the linear view of history. The
                                          > Semitic conception of "history" is linear; it has a beginning, an end and
                                          > evolves in a certain direction (has a tropism). The most representative
                                          > cases are the Abrahamic "religions" with their "World creation" and their
                                          > "end of the World". This is the contrary of the Aryan conception of
                                          > "history" which is cyclic.
                                          > > > Moreover the most recent form of ideology promoting historical linearity
                                          > is that of Jew Marx who had Asian and Semitic blood. He theorized the
                                          > historical materialism which states that the history of "humanity" is shaped
                                          > by the relationship between social classes.
                                          > > > According to this theory, in prehistory all men lived in a paradisiacal
                                          > communist community. -> The paradise of Adam and Eve.
                                          > > > History begins with technical progress which is considered as the factor
                                          > which has made the enslavement of man possible to landlords -> The original
                                          > sin that marks the beginning of the enslavement of man to the (d)evil and
                                          > his fall to earth.
                                          > > > Finally, we jump ahead to the last step. All social classes disappear
                                          > and the international communist community is being established forever->
                                          > This is heaven on Earth of Jehovah's Witnesses where "there is neither Jew
                                          > nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ
                                          > Jesus."
                                          > > > It's the opposite of the Aryan conception of history where society is
                                          > founded (often) during the Golden Age.
                                          > > > After the beginning of this Age there is a foundation war between the
                                          > third caste and the alliance of the second and first castes. After long
                                          > battles there are no vanquishers so the three castes decide to unite to
                                          > found the Aryan society. Then there is no friction or problems between the
                                          > three castes until the beginning of the Kali Yuga which will see the gradual
                                          > destruction of the Aryan society.
                                          > > > In conclusion I can add that creationism and evolutionism, which are
                                          > straight from the Semitic mind, are not opposites but the two sides of the
                                          > same coin, as I have explained in prior posts.
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > > - The emphasis on aesthetics
                                          > > > There is no need to develop this part but just to point out that today
                                          > aesthetics prevails in the West, what is materialistic, superficial and
                                          > which is a sign of feminization of the society.
                                          > > > In this regard I have been stroked by the movie "american psycho" whose
                                          > main protagonist is the Jewish trader "Bateman", because he is an
                                          > illustration of the feminine, superficial, parasitic, neurotic, psychotic,
                                          > destructive and autodestructive model which is becoming the new reality of
                                          > the Western man.
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > > - Talking shop
                                          > > > In our modern West society talking shop prevails.
                                          > > > A delirious example of this kind of feminization is that in big
                                          > enterprises (the big ones are those which are the most feminized) there are
                                          > more and more people hired to "solve" problems and conflicts between
                                          > employees. So, when you have a problem with someone you will see the
                                          > "mediator" rather than the first person. This is completely delirious and a
                                          > sign of the emergence of the effeminate "elusive man" which is the result of
                                          > the "democratic" West we live in. A good example of this "elusive man" is
                                          > the one pointed by Hitler in his critique of parliamentarianism in "Mein
                                          > Kampf".
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > > - Animals
                                          > > > Aryans didn't hate animals because they lived in harmony with nature and
                                          > in communion with the universe. It's not the case of Orientals who like to
                                          > make them suffered; convincing examples are Halal and Kosher slaughters and
                                          > the fact that in Asia millions of animals are tortured (to death) each year.
                                          > It's interesting to note that sadism (and masochism) are (destructive and
                                          > autodestructive) feminine impulses; so it's not surprising to find them in
                                          > Orientals because they have a feminine soul. About sadism you can read about
                                          > the different treatment of slaves in the Indo-European and the Semitic
                                          > worlds.
                                          > > > Now let's talk about the fish. It's known that fish were despised by
                                          > Aryans (so much that they didn't eat them even when they were in areas full
                                          > of them) unlike Asians who appreciate them a lot. A crucial point is that
                                          > fish is a sacred animal and a major symbol of christianity. This example
                                          > shows that Christianization has not only been a Semitization but also an
                                          > Asianization.
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > > - Sexuality
                                          > > > Nowadays sexuality is considered only as a way of reproduction or in a
                                          > hedonistic way. Sexuality is therefore devoid of any higher principle.
                                          > > > Consider sexuality only as a way of reproduction (like in abrahamic
                                          > "religions") is characteristic of eastern matriarchies in which women are
                                          > considered as goddesses because they can give birth. Consider sexuality only
                                          > in a hedonistic way indicates the presence of a negroid soul.
                                          > > > About the reproductive side even the reproduction itself is devoid of
                                          > any principle because for non-Aryans, children are only seen in an
                                          > utilitarian way whereas for Aryans, children are the blood of their blood,
                                          > the perpetuation of their race. This lowering is reflected in the West
                                          > especially among the bourgeoisie for whom having children is a social
                                          > convention, which corresponds to an Asianization.
                                          > > > About the hedonist side, which was made possible mainly through Jewish
                                          > pornography, we can say that it has fed into the mind of westerns a false
                                          > caricature negroid image of what manhood is, which is in total opposition to
                                          > what it was in the Aryan world. Moreover the hedonization of the sexuality
                                          > through pornography and internet causes progressive loss of real sex. There
                                          > are two reasons behind the fact that people speak more and more about sex
                                          > outside their private life. The first is that loss of real sex, the second
                                          > is the infantilization and negrification which causes the loss of decency
                                          > (indeed as an element of private life sexuality has to be kept in privacy
                                          > and not discussed outside, if not it's a violation of intimacy). In addition
                                          > pornography is mainly a way of perversion of sexuality and relations to
                                          > sexuality. Whites who have no regular sex will sink into a porn addiction
                                          > that will over the long term make them impotent. It also transforms a
                                          > natural and healthy sexuality, which is a need, in an unhealthy and against
                                          > nature sexuality, which is a desire.
                                          > > > Eastern "societies" (especially Semitic ones) are known to be very
                                          > sensual. Nowadays in the West it's clear that there is a latent perverse
                                          > form of sexuality, propagated by advertisements and media (for example)
                                          > which can only lead to frustration.
                                          > > > Finally, it's wise to note that the only one society in which there was
                                          > no prostitution was the Aryan Polis Sparta. Indeed Sparta was autarkic and
                                          > closed to outside influences until its decline and has, as a consequence,
                                          > succeed in canalizing its people, rise it spiritually and confer it a soul
                                          > nobility. It's the opposite of the former Eastern "societies" where sacred
                                          > prostitution was practiced. Nowadays prostitution in all its forms is
                                          > widespread so much in the West than it can only be the sign of an
                                          > orientalization.
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > > (1) If you want more information about them you can, for example, check
                                          > their wikipedia article.
                                          > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracalla
                                          > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliogabale
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > > P.S.
                                          > > > We must ensure the survival and regeneration of our holy and sacred
                                          > Aryan race, which unfortunately has been largely mixed. This is the most
                                          > important of our duties.
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > >
                                          >



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                                          Perhaps rouesolaire can clarify better his thought about, because I did not see the world mafia in his message. Personally I do not think that Italian
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                                            Perhaps 'rouesolaire' can clarify better his thought about, because I did not see the world "mafia" in his message. Personally I do not think that Italian Mafia is composed of Hebrews, but of normal sons of bitches that by now  and unfortunately are present in every race of this wonderful planet. We can assune that in HollywoodLeviStein they are more numerous, as Evola  pointed out  in "La Vita Italiana".
                                            Since the men among the ruins are really few in the Kali Yuga, it's a pity if they have to quarrel just about some verbal misunderstanding. It is that the way of the counter-initiation: divide et impera.
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                                            ----- Original Message -----
                                            From: Evola
                                            Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 7:33 PM
                                            Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: A propos du rationalisme, du scientisme et de l'intelligence

                                             

                                            Do not flatter yourself. We just happen to have a good memory. Don't flatter us : the mechanical, geriatric, repetitiveness of your tiresome special pleadings and falsities makes it easier for us. We also happen to have eyes, which allow us to see a 'search' button at the top of this page. Both of them also tell us that "rouesolaire" did not claim that all Italians are Semites, but that the so-called "Italian mafia" is filled with Jews and kindred Orientals, using a subject-verb-complement paratactic structure to make sure even acute defectives do not loose the plot : "The Jewish, "Italian" (which is Semitic), Albanian, Chechen, Japanese and Chinese ones. They are all composed of Jews, Semites and Asians, so of Orientals."

                                            This forum is meant to be a place where to discuss topics related to the work of J. Evola, going into these further, broadening them, documenting and substantiating them as far as possible, not a rantroom, not a salon, not a lodge. In keeping with this demanding task, we will take this opportunity to remind members of a study which was posted some time ago here about the race change which occurred in Rome at the beginning of our era : http://www.giveshare.org/babylon/racechange.html - a sore subject on 'White Supremacists' forums such as Stormfront, on which "rouesolaire" might come across a message we posted years ago about the estimated proportion of 'natives' with Semitic blood in countries such as Italy.

                                            --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Tony Ciapo" <hyperborean@...> wrote:
                                            >
                                            > M. Carrou, I didn't realize you were maintaining a dossier on me. But it was
                                            > M. rouesolaire, who claims that Italians are Semites, based on their alleged
                                            > criminality. Perhaps he watches too many American movies. Do you expect your
                                            > readers to take that claim seriously or let it pass by in silence? You need
                                            > to develop a sense of irony; not everyone is as rigid as you imagine.
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > From: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com [mailto:evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com]
                                            > On Behalf Of Evola
                                            > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:32 AM
                                            > To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                            > Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: A propos du rationalisme, du scientisme et de
                                            > l'intelligence
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > Three years ago, you wrote on this forum : "NOTE: Just so everyone
                                            > understands who qualifies as a Nordic thinker. In the Italian edition Evola
                                            > singles out Nietzsche, Weininger (an Austrian Jew who became a Protestant
                                            > and suicided himself), and Michelstaedter (an Italian Jew and also a
                                            > suicide). Needless to say, for the German edition all references to the
                                            > latter two names were dropped, presumably on the principle: "discretion is
                                            > the better part of valour."
                                            >
                                            > This was our reply : "With respect to your fanciful note, leaving aside that
                                            > we have already mentioned twice that Weininger was half-Jewish, the fact is
                                            > that that none of these three authors qualified as a Nordic thinker in
                                            > Evola's eyes. The chapter is called 'Tradizione mediterranea contro
                                            > tradizione cristiana', and, precisely, Nietzsche, Weininger, and
                                            > Michelstaedter, were all seen by Evola as representatives of this
                                            > 'Mediterranean tradition'. Hopefully, you will refrain from spreading such
                                            > tendentious falsehoods about his thought on forums in which members may not
                                            > have the opportunity to consult 'Imperialismo pagano'.
                                            > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evola_as_he_is/message/989)
                                            >
                                            > Do not bother us any longer with your idees fixes.
                                            >
                                            > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                            > <mailto:evola_as_he_is%40yahoogroups.com> , "Hyperborean" <hyperborean@>
                                            > wrote:
                                            > >
                                            > > So here is the "proof" that the Italian Julius Evola is really a Semite.
                                            > It probably explains his fascination with Dada and his admiration for its
                                            > Romanian Jewish leader, Tristan Tzara . not to mention Weininger and
                                            > Michelstaedter. And there is the admiration Evola had for the Semite
                                            > Girolamo Savonarola, when he wrote:
                                            > >
                                            > > "In that period [i.e., the Renaissance] such a [Ario-Roman] tradition was
                                            > rather more alive in a Savonarola and in other men trying to stop the
                                            > extrinsicism and aestheticism from leading the remaining forces of the Aryan
                                            > race in Italy to the level of an effeminate culture [cultura afroditica]."
                                            > >
                                            > > And I have the final proof. Several years ago, I met an Italian countess
                                            > who, as a child, had known Evola, since her Uncle and Evola were friends.
                                            > She informed me that Evola often came over for dinner and discussion. I
                                            > asked her what they would eat, and she informed me that it was typically
                                            > "salmon".
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                            > <mailto:evola_as_he_is%40yahoogroups.com> , "rouesolaire" <rouesolaire@>
                                            > wrote:
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > > My English isn't very accurate but I guess some practice is going to
                                            > give me the opportunity to improve it. I am going to do my best to be as
                                            > clear as possible, avoiding English mistakes as I can.
                                            > > > I think the best thing to do is to illustrate what I have explained in
                                            > my previous posts by some concise examples taken among hundreds existing.
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > > - Corruption
                                            > > > In Aryan societies there were always noble men like Cato the Elder (who
                                            > should be a model for us) to efficiently fight corruption whatever form it
                                            > took. In one hand, we can even say that there never was organized crime in
                                            > Aryan societies but at worst some isolated criminals and small bandits band
                                            > which were often quickly eradicated. In the other hand, it's the entire
                                            > contrary in Asian "societies" where corruption is endemic and where criminal
                                            > organizations are implanted for a while. It's why the desaryanization of
                                            > Europe, which corresponded to its Asianization among others, has seen the
                                            > emergence of corruption and organized crime.
                                            > > > To prove what I say, which are the most powerful criminal organizations
                                            > in the world, except Central and South America? The Jewish, "Italian" (which
                                            > is Semitic), Albanian, Chechen, Japanese and Chinese ones. They are all
                                            > composed of Jews, Semites and Asians, so of Orientals.
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > > - Different types of political systems
                                            > > > In Roman Empire (even the "Semitic" one) if the emperor was "bad"
                                            > (harmed his people and the interest of the Empire) his destiny was fixed
                                            > quickly: the death (often by the hands of the Praetorian Guard). In Semitic
                                            > territories tyrants could do whatever they want without being disturbed.
                                            > It's one of the hundreds deep oppositions between Aryan society and
                                            > Oriental/Semitic despotates. In Semitic ones there isn't justice.
                                            > > > While we're at is we can mention two Semitic "Roman" emperors: Caracalla
                                            > and Elagabalus (1) .
                                            > > > The first gave, through the "edict of Caracalla", the citizenship to all
                                            > freemen throughout the Roman Empire. The second is well known for having
                                            > been subjected to women and even indirectly giving them political power.
                                            > > > So, it was nothing else - from these two emperors - but a step towards
                                            > egalitarianism, modern democracy and feminization of the Indo-Europeans
                                            > societies.
                                            > > > In the bottom despotism (tyranny of an untouchable and often
                                            > illegitimate despot who can act against the interest of his own people),
                                            > democracy (tyranny of the mass against the elite) and theocracy (which is in
                                            > fact a masked form of despotism) are just some forms of elite crushing, they
                                            > only use different ways to perform it, while dictatorship and aristocracy
                                            > are the government of the elite.
                                            > > > We can also speak about - from an Aryan viewpoint - the Asian oligarchy
                                            > which is composed of scientists, academicians, scholars, economists and
                                            > merchants and opposed to Aryan aristocracy which is typically composed of
                                            > blood nobility, warlords and men of great (strength of) character.
                                            > > > We can say that actual Europe is democratic on the form and oligarchic
                                            > on the bottom, so Semitic on the form and Asian in the bottom. Modern
                                            > democracy is a deleterious illusion that allows oligarchs - who have Jewish
                                            > (who are mongrels of all races), Negroid, Semitic, Asian and non-Aryan blood
                                            > and want to exterminate "Whites" and most of all the latest Aryans - to
                                            > circumvent the Europeans.
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > > - Modern democracy
                                            > > > I previously said that theocracy was masked despotism but in fact this
                                            > must be qualified because modern democracy is more or less theocratic
                                            > inspiration and isn't a despotic system. The Semite Girolamo Savonarola
                                            > introduced in Florence a theological-democratic system.
                                            > > > Everyone knows that Europeans have always been reluctant to theocracy.
                                            > The feminine pseudo-principles worn by christianism, which has the form of a
                                            > religion but is in reality from an Aryan viewpoint an anti-Aryan
                                            > revolutionary ideology, could only be adopted by them - after centuries of
                                            > Jewish propaganda and other forms of psychological warfare, directly
                                            > inspired by the teachings of the Chinese Sun Tzu, aimed at destroying
                                            > Europeans mentally and effeminate them - by making the form acceptable, in
                                            > secularizing Christianism by changing his shape. The old shape was
                                            > "religious" (in the Semitic significance of the term), the new one will have
                                            > the shape of a secular legislation. This is the case, to take the best known
                                            > example, of the declaration of human rights.
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > > - War
                                            > > > The very feminine psychological war which was totally unknown in the
                                            > ancient Aryan world but very developed in the writings of Sun Tzu is
                                            > nowadays present everywhere in West. In addition, applied oriental science
                                            > has made war totally different from what it once was and has facilitated the
                                            > entry of women in the military.
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > > - Medicine
                                            > > > The Semitic modern medicine has for main goal to make people who are
                                            > healthy sick and to maintain people who are sick in life; it's the best way
                                            > to do business. Moreover I absolutely don't believe in the alleged
                                            > improvements of living conditions and "life expectancy" claimed by liar
                                            > media and scientists. Firstly it's known that in ancient times Aryans
                                            > Europeans were generally in better health than today populace and that some
                                            > famous ones lived over 90 years. For example Polybius died at age 82 of a
                                            > riding accident. Nowadays how many Europeans over 70 years don't take
                                            > medical treatment or are in good health (physically and mentally)? Very
                                            > little. How many 82 years old Europeans could ride a horse for hours?
                                            > > > In addition, modern medicine has made the mass comfort abortion
                                            > possible, which has prevented the birth of tens of millions of White babies,
                                            > while this medicine allows anti-natural in-vitro fertilization and
                                            > artificial insemination and some kinds of dysgenism.
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > > - Economy
                                            > > > Firstly, the modern, oriental meaning of the economy isn't the same as
                                            > that defined in the Indo-Europeans societies. Anyone who wants to know what
                                            > economy means in the Indo-European viewpoint can read "Economics" of
                                            > Xenophon or pseudo-Aristotle.
                                            > > > Eastern "societies" have the peculiarity that - because of their natural
                                            > bargaining - economy prevails within them. That wasn't the case in Aryan
                                            > societies and economy has progressively become an obsession as Europe
                                            > physically and mentally orientalized herself. The fact is that everything is
                                            > nowadays considered as a business in West.
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > > - Linearity and cyclicality of "history"
                                            > > > Today almost everyone believes in the linear view of history. The
                                            > Semitic conception of "history" is linear; it has a beginning, an end and
                                            > evolves in a certain direction (has a tropism). The most representative
                                            > cases are the Abrahamic "religions" with their "World creation" and their
                                            > "end of the World". This is the contrary of the Aryan conception of
                                            > "history" which is cyclic.
                                            > > > Moreover the most recent form of ideology promoting historical linearity
                                            > is that of Jew Marx who had Asian and Semitic blood. He theorized the
                                            > historical materialism which states that the history of "humanity" is shaped
                                            > by the relationship between social classes.
                                            > > > According to this theory, in prehistory all men lived in a paradisiacal
                                            > communist community. -> The paradise of Adam and Eve.
                                            > > > History begins with technical progress which is considered as the factor
                                            > which has made the enslavement of man possible to landlords -> The original
                                            > sin that marks the beginning of the enslavement of man to the (d)evil and
                                            > his fall to earth.
                                            > > > Finally, we jump ahead to the last step. All social classes disappear
                                            > and the international communist community is being established forever->
                                            > This is heaven on Earth of Jehovah's Witnesses where "there is neither Jew
                                            > nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ
                                            > Jesus."
                                            > > > It's the opposite of the Aryan conception of history where society is
                                            > founded (often) during the Golden Age.
                                            > > > After the beginning of this Age there is a foundation war between the
                                            > third caste and the alliance of the second and first castes. After long
                                            > battles there are no vanquishers so the three castes decide to unite to
                                            > found the Aryan society. Then there is no friction or problems between the
                                            > three castes until the beginning of the Kali Yuga which will see the gradual
                                            > destruction of the Aryan society.
                                            > > > In conclusion I can add that creationism and evolutionism, which are
                                            > straight from the Semitic mind, are not opposites but the two sides of the
                                            > same coin, as I have explained in prior posts.
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > > - The emphasis on aesthetics
                                            > > > There is no need to develop this part but just to point out that today
                                            > aesthetics prevails in the West, what is materialistic, superficial and
                                            > which is a sign of feminization of the society.
                                            > > > In this regard I have been stroked by the movie "american psycho" whose
                                            > main protagonist is the Jewish trader "Bateman", because he is an
                                            > illustration of the feminine, superficial, parasitic, neurotic, psychotic,
                                            > destructive and autodestructive model which is becoming the new reality of
                                            > the Western man.
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > > - Talking shop
                                            > > > In our modern West society talking shop prevails.
                                            > > > A delirious example of this kind of feminization is that in big
                                            > enterprises (the big ones are those which are the most feminized) there are
                                            > more and more people hired to "solve" problems and conflicts between
                                            > employees. So, when you have a problem with someone you will see the
                                            > "mediator" rather than the first person. This is completely delirious and a
                                            > sign of the emergence of the effeminate "elusive man" which is the result of
                                            > the "democratic" West we live in. A good example of this "elusive man" is
                                            > the one pointed by Hitler in his critique of parliamentarianism in "Mein
                                            > Kampf".
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > > - Animals
                                            > > > Aryans didn't hate animals because they lived in harmony with nature and
                                            > in communion with the universe. It's not the case of Orientals who like to
                                            > make them suffered; convincing examples are Halal and Kosher slaughters and
                                            > the fact that in Asia millions of animals are tortured (to death) each year.
                                            > It's interesting to note that sadism (and masochism) are (destructive and
                                            > autodestructive) feminine impulses; so it's not surprising to find them in
                                            > Orientals because they have a feminine soul. About sadism you can read about
                                            > the different treatment of slaves in the Indo-European and the Semitic
                                            > worlds.
                                            > > > Now let's talk about the fish. It's known that fish were despised by
                                            > Aryans (so much that they didn't eat them even when they were in areas full
                                            > of them) unlike Asians who appreciate them a lot. A crucial point is that
                                            > fish is a sacred animal and a major symbol of christianity. This example
                                            > shows that Christianization has not only been a Semitization but also an
                                            > Asianization.
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > > - Sexuality
                                            > > > Nowadays sexuality is considered only as a way of reproduction or in a
                                            > hedonistic way. Sexuality is therefore devoid of any higher principle.
                                            > > > Consider sexuality only as a way of reproduction (like in abrahamic
                                            > "religions") is characteristic of eastern matriarchies in which women are
                                            > considered as goddesses because they can give birth. Consider sexuality only
                                            > in a hedonistic way indicates the presence of a negroid soul.
                                            > > > About the reproductive side even the reproduction itself is devoid of
                                            > any principle because for non-Aryans, children are only seen in an
                                            > utilitarian way whereas for Aryans, children are the blood of their blood,
                                            > the perpetuation of their race. This lowering is reflected in the West
                                            > especially among the bourgeoisie for whom having children is a social
                                            > convention, which corresponds to an Asianization.
                                            > > > About the hedonist side, which was made possible mainly through Jewish
                                            > pornography, we can say that it has fed into the mind of westerns a false
                                            > caricature negroid image of what manhood is, which is in total opposition to
                                            > what it was in the Aryan world. Moreover the hedonization of the sexuality
                                            > through pornography and internet causes progressive loss of real sex. There
                                            > are two reasons behind the fact that people speak more and more about sex
                                            > outside their private life. The first is that loss of real sex, the second
                                            > is the infantilization and negrification which causes the loss of decency
                                            > (indeed as an element of private life sexuality has to be kept in privacy
                                            > and not discussed outside, if not it's a violation of intimacy). In addition
                                            > pornography is mainly a way of perversion of sexuality and relations to
                                            > sexuality. Whites who have no regular sex will sink into a porn addiction
                                            > that will over the long term make them impotent. It also transforms a
                                            > natural and healthy sexuality, which is a need, in an unhealthy and against
                                            > nature sexuality, which is a desire.
                                            > > > Eastern "societies" (especially Semitic ones) are known to be very
                                            > sensual. Nowadays in the West it's clear that there is a latent perverse
                                            > form of sexuality, propagated by advertisements and media (for example)
                                            > which can only lead to frustration.
                                            > > > Finally, it's wise to note that the only one society in which there was
                                            > no prostitution was the Aryan Polis Sparta. Indeed Sparta was autarkic and
                                            > closed to outside influences until its decline and has, as a consequence,
                                            > succeed in canalizing its people, rise it spiritually and confer it a soul
                                            > nobility. It's the opposite of the former Eastern "societies" where sacred
                                            > prostitution was practiced. Nowadays prostitution in all its forms is
                                            > widespread so much in the West than it can only be the sign of an
                                            > orientalization.
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > > (1) If you want more information about them you can, for example, check
                                            > their wikipedia article.
                                            > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracalla
                                            > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliogabale
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > > P.S.
                                            > > > We must ensure the survival and regeneration of our holy and sacred
                                            > Aryan race, which unfortunately has been largely mixed. This is the most
                                            > important of our duties.
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > >
                                            >

                                          • Evola
                                            We could refer you to a short article about an acute, infectious disease - caused by several species of Rickettsia, transmitted by lice and fleas, and
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                                              We could refer you to a short article about an acute, infectious disease - caused by several species of Rickettsia, transmitted by lice and fleas, and characterized by acute prostration, headache, and a peculiar eruption of reddish spots on the body -, an article in which the word 'typhus' is not mentionned in the body of the text.

                                              Is this - http://just-another-inside-job.blogspot.fr/2008/10/judeo-russian-mafia-from-gulag-to.html ; http://www.toqonline.com/blog/the-jewish-mafia/ ; http://haroonhaider.com/2009/09/20/cosa-nostra-mafia-is-actually-jewish-mafia/ - clear enough ?







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                                              --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "vandermok" <vandermok@...> wrote:
                                              >
                                              > Perhaps 'rouesolaire' can clarify better his thought about, because I did not see the world "mafia" in his message. Personally I do not think that Italian Mafia is composed of Hebrews, but of normal sons of bitches that by now and unfortunately are present in every race of this wonderful planet. We can assune that in HollywoodLeviStein they are more numerous, as Evola pointed out in "La Vita Italiana".
                                              > Since the men among the ruins are really few in the Kali Yuga, it's a pity if they have to quarrel just about some verbal misunderstanding. It is that the way of the counter-initiation: divide et impera.
                                              > ---------
                                              >
                                              > ----- Original Message -----
                                              > From: Evola
                                              > To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                              > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 7:33 PM
                                              > Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: A propos du rationalisme, du scientisme et de l'intelligence
                                              >
                                              >
                                              >
                                              > Do not flatter yourself. We just happen to have a good memory. Don't flatter us : the mechanical, geriatric, repetitiveness of your tiresome special pleadings and falsities makes it easier for us. We also happen to have eyes, which allow us to see a 'search' button at the top of this page. Both of them also tell us that "rouesolaire" did not claim that all Italians are Semites, but that the so-called "Italian mafia" is filled with Jews and kindred Orientals, using a subject-verb-complement paratactic structure to make sure even acute defectives do not loose the plot : "The Jewish, "Italian" (which is Semitic), Albanian, Chechen, Japanese and Chinese ones. They are all composed of Jews, Semites and Asians, so of Orientals."
                                              >
                                              > This forum is meant to be a place where to discuss topics related to the work of J. Evola, going into these further, broadening them, documenting and substantiating them as far as possible, not a rantroom, not a salon, not a lodge. In keeping with this demanding task, we will take this opportunity to remind members of a study which was posted some time ago here about the race change which occurred in Rome at the beginning of our era : http://www.giveshare.org/babylon/racechange.html - a sore subject on 'White Supremacists' forums such as Stormfront, on which "rouesolaire" might come across a message we posted years ago about the estimated proportion of 'natives' with Semitic blood in countries such as Italy.
                                              >
                                              > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Tony Ciapo" <hyperborean@> wrote:
                                              > >
                                              > > M. Carrou, I didn't realize you were maintaining a dossier on me. But it was
                                              > > M. rouesolaire, who claims that Italians are Semites, based on their alleged
                                              > > criminality. Perhaps he watches too many American movies. Do you expect your
                                              > > readers to take that claim seriously or let it pass by in silence? You need
                                              > > to develop a sense of irony; not everyone is as rigid as you imagine.
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > From: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com [mailto:evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com]
                                              > > On Behalf Of Evola
                                              > > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:32 AM
                                              > > To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                              > > Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: A propos du rationalisme, du scientisme et de
                                              > > l'intelligence
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > Three years ago, you wrote on this forum : "NOTE: Just so everyone
                                              > > understands who qualifies as a Nordic thinker. In the Italian edition Evola
                                              > > singles out Nietzsche, Weininger (an Austrian Jew who became a Protestant
                                              > > and suicided himself), and Michelstaedter (an Italian Jew and also a
                                              > > suicide). Needless to say, for the German edition all references to the
                                              > > latter two names were dropped, presumably on the principle: "discretion is
                                              > > the better part of valour."
                                              > >
                                              > > This was our reply : "With respect to your fanciful note, leaving aside that
                                              > > we have already mentioned twice that Weininger was half-Jewish, the fact is
                                              > > that that none of these three authors qualified as a Nordic thinker in
                                              > > Evola's eyes. The chapter is called 'Tradizione mediterranea contro
                                              > > tradizione cristiana', and, precisely, Nietzsche, Weininger, and
                                              > > Michelstaedter, were all seen by Evola as representatives of this
                                              > > 'Mediterranean tradition'. Hopefully, you will refrain from spreading such
                                              > > tendentious falsehoods about his thought on forums in which members may not
                                              > > have the opportunity to consult 'Imperialismo pagano'.
                                              > > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evola_as_he_is/message/989)
                                              > >
                                              > > Do not bother us any longer with your idees fixes.
                                              > >
                                              > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                              > > <mailto:evola_as_he_is%40yahoogroups.com> , "Hyperborean" <hyperborean@>
                                              > > wrote:
                                              > > >
                                              > > > So here is the "proof" that the Italian Julius Evola is really a Semite.
                                              > > It probably explains his fascination with Dada and his admiration for its
                                              > > Romanian Jewish leader, Tristan Tzara . not to mention Weininger and
                                              > > Michelstaedter. And there is the admiration Evola had for the Semite
                                              > > Girolamo Savonarola, when he wrote:
                                              > > >
                                              > > > "In that period [i.e., the Renaissance] such a [Ario-Roman] tradition was
                                              > > rather more alive in a Savonarola and in other men trying to stop the
                                              > > extrinsicism and aestheticism from leading the remaining forces of the Aryan
                                              > > race in Italy to the level of an effeminate culture [cultura afroditica]."
                                              > > >
                                              > > > And I have the final proof. Several years ago, I met an Italian countess
                                              > > who, as a child, had known Evola, since her Uncle and Evola were friends.
                                              > > She informed me that Evola often came over for dinner and discussion. I
                                              > > asked her what they would eat, and she informed me that it was typically
                                              > > "salmon".
                                              > > >
                                              > > >
                                              > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                              > > <mailto:evola_as_he_is%40yahoogroups.com> , "rouesolaire" <rouesolaire@>
                                              > > wrote:
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > My English isn't very accurate but I guess some practice is going to
                                              > > give me the opportunity to improve it. I am going to do my best to be as
                                              > > clear as possible, avoiding English mistakes as I can.
                                              > > > > I think the best thing to do is to illustrate what I have explained in
                                              > > my previous posts by some concise examples taken among hundreds existing.
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > - Corruption
                                              > > > > In Aryan societies there were always noble men like Cato the Elder (who
                                              > > should be a model for us) to efficiently fight corruption whatever form it
                                              > > took. In one hand, we can even say that there never was organized crime in
                                              > > Aryan societies but at worst some isolated criminals and small bandits band
                                              > > which were often quickly eradicated. In the other hand, it's the entire
                                              > > contrary in Asian "societies" where corruption is endemic and where criminal
                                              > > organizations are implanted for a while. It's why the desaryanization of
                                              > > Europe, which corresponded to its Asianization among others, has seen the
                                              > > emergence of corruption and organized crime.
                                              > > > > To prove what I say, which are the most powerful criminal organizations
                                              > > in the world, except Central and South America? The Jewish, "Italian" (which
                                              > > is Semitic), Albanian, Chechen, Japanese and Chinese ones. They are all
                                              > > composed of Jews, Semites and Asians, so of Orientals.
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > - Different types of political systems
                                              > > > > In Roman Empire (even the "Semitic" one) if the emperor was "bad"
                                              > > (harmed his people and the interest of the Empire) his destiny was fixed
                                              > > quickly: the death (often by the hands of the Praetorian Guard). In Semitic
                                              > > territories tyrants could do whatever they want without being disturbed.
                                              > > It's one of the hundreds deep oppositions between Aryan society and
                                              > > Oriental/Semitic despotates. In Semitic ones there isn't justice.
                                              > > > > While we're at is we can mention two Semitic "Roman" emperors: Caracalla
                                              > > and Elagabalus (1) .
                                              > > > > The first gave, through the "edict of Caracalla", the citizenship to all
                                              > > freemen throughout the Roman Empire. The second is well known for having
                                              > > been subjected to women and even indirectly giving them political power.
                                              > > > > So, it was nothing else - from these two emperors - but a step towards
                                              > > egalitarianism, modern democracy and feminization of the Indo-Europeans
                                              > > societies.
                                              > > > > In the bottom despotism (tyranny of an untouchable and often
                                              > > illegitimate despot who can act against the interest of his own people),
                                              > > democracy (tyranny of the mass against the elite) and theocracy (which is in
                                              > > fact a masked form of despotism) are just some forms of elite crushing, they
                                              > > only use different ways to perform it, while dictatorship and aristocracy
                                              > > are the government of the elite.
                                              > > > > We can also speak about - from an Aryan viewpoint - the Asian oligarchy
                                              > > which is composed of scientists, academicians, scholars, economists and
                                              > > merchants and opposed to Aryan aristocracy which is typically composed of
                                              > > blood nobility, warlords and men of great (strength of) character.
                                              > > > > We can say that actual Europe is democratic on the form and oligarchic
                                              > > on the bottom, so Semitic on the form and Asian in the bottom. Modern
                                              > > democracy is a deleterious illusion that allows oligarchs - who have Jewish
                                              > > (who are mongrels of all races), Negroid, Semitic, Asian and non-Aryan blood
                                              > > and want to exterminate "Whites" and most of all the latest Aryans - to
                                              > > circumvent the Europeans.
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > - Modern democracy
                                              > > > > I previously said that theocracy was masked despotism but in fact this
                                              > > must be qualified because modern democracy is more or less theocratic
                                              > > inspiration and isn't a despotic system. The Semite Girolamo Savonarola
                                              > > introduced in Florence a theological-democratic system.
                                              > > > > Everyone knows that Europeans have always been reluctant to theocracy.
                                              > > The feminine pseudo-principles worn by christianism, which has the form of a
                                              > > religion but is in reality from an Aryan viewpoint an anti-Aryan
                                              > > revolutionary ideology, could only be adopted by them - after centuries of
                                              > > Jewish propaganda and other forms of psychological warfare, directly
                                              > > inspired by the teachings of the Chinese Sun Tzu, aimed at destroying
                                              > > Europeans mentally and effeminate them - by making the form acceptable, in
                                              > > secularizing Christianism by changing his shape. The old shape was
                                              > > "religious" (in the Semitic significance of the term), the new one will have
                                              > > the shape of a secular legislation. This is the case, to take the best known
                                              > > example, of the declaration of human rights.
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > - War
                                              > > > > The very feminine psychological war which was totally unknown in the
                                              > > ancient Aryan world but very developed in the writings of Sun Tzu is
                                              > > nowadays present everywhere in West. In addition, applied oriental science
                                              > > has made war totally different from what it once was and has facilitated the
                                              > > entry of women in the military.
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > - Medicine
                                              > > > > The Semitic modern medicine has for main goal to make people who are
                                              > > healthy sick and to maintain people who are sick in life; it's the best way
                                              > > to do business. Moreover I absolutely don't believe in the alleged
                                              > > improvements of living conditions and "life expectancy" claimed by liar
                                              > > media and scientists. Firstly it's known that in ancient times Aryans
                                              > > Europeans were generally in better health than today populace and that some
                                              > > famous ones lived over 90 years. For example Polybius died at age 82 of a
                                              > > riding accident. Nowadays how many Europeans over 70 years don't take
                                              > > medical treatment or are in good health (physically and mentally)? Very
                                              > > little. How many 82 years old Europeans could ride a horse for hours?
                                              > > > > In addition, modern medicine has made the mass comfort abortion
                                              > > possible, which has prevented the birth of tens of millions of White babies,
                                              > > while this medicine allows anti-natural in-vitro fertilization and
                                              > > artificial insemination and some kinds of dysgenism.
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > - Economy
                                              > > > > Firstly, the modern, oriental meaning of the economy isn't the same as
                                              > > that defined in the Indo-Europeans societies. Anyone who wants to know what
                                              > > economy means in the Indo-European viewpoint can read "Economics" of
                                              > > Xenophon or pseudo-Aristotle.
                                              > > > > Eastern "societies" have the peculiarity that - because of their natural
                                              > > bargaining - economy prevails within them. That wasn't the case in Aryan
                                              > > societies and economy has progressively become an obsession as Europe
                                              > > physically and mentally orientalized herself. The fact is that everything is
                                              > > nowadays considered as a business in West.
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > - Linearity and cyclicality of "history"
                                              > > > > Today almost everyone believes in the linear view of history. The
                                              > > Semitic conception of "history" is linear; it has a beginning, an end and
                                              > > evolves in a certain direction (has a tropism). The most representative
                                              > > cases are the Abrahamic "religions" with their "World creation" and their
                                              > > "end of the World". This is the contrary of the Aryan conception of
                                              > > "history" which is cyclic.
                                              > > > > Moreover the most recent form of ideology promoting historical linearity
                                              > > is that of Jew Marx who had Asian and Semitic blood. He theorized the
                                              > > historical materialism which states that the history of "humanity" is shaped
                                              > > by the relationship between social classes.
                                              > > > > According to this theory, in prehistory all men lived in a paradisiacal
                                              > > communist community. -> The paradise of Adam and Eve.
                                              > > > > History begins with technical progress which is considered as the factor
                                              > > which has made the enslavement of man possible to landlords -> The original
                                              > > sin that marks the beginning of the enslavement of man to the (d)evil and
                                              > > his fall to earth.
                                              > > > > Finally, we jump ahead to the last step. All social classes disappear
                                              > > and the international communist community is being established forever->
                                              > > This is heaven on Earth of Jehovah's Witnesses where "there is neither Jew
                                              > > nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ
                                              > > Jesus."
                                              > > > > It's the opposite of the Aryan conception of history where society is
                                              > > founded (often) during the Golden Age.
                                              > > > > After the beginning of this Age there is a foundation war between the
                                              > > third caste and the alliance of the second and first castes. After long
                                              > > battles there are no vanquishers so the three castes decide to unite to
                                              > > found the Aryan society. Then there is no friction or problems between the
                                              > > three castes until the beginning of the Kali Yuga which will see the gradual
                                              > > destruction of the Aryan society.
                                              > > > > In conclusion I can add that creationism and evolutionism, which are
                                              > > straight from the Semitic mind, are not opposites but the two sides of the
                                              > > same coin, as I have explained in prior posts.
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > - The emphasis on aesthetics
                                              > > > > There is no need to develop this part but just to point out that today
                                              > > aesthetics prevails in the West, what is materialistic, superficial and
                                              > > which is a sign of feminization of the society.
                                              > > > > In this regard I have been stroked by the movie "american psycho" whose
                                              > > main protagonist is the Jewish trader "Bateman", because he is an
                                              > > illustration of the feminine, superficial, parasitic, neurotic, psychotic,
                                              > > destructive and autodestructive model which is becoming the new reality of
                                              > > the Western man.
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > - Talking shop
                                              > > > > In our modern West society talking shop prevails.
                                              > > > > A delirious example of this kind of feminization is that in big
                                              > > enterprises (the big ones are those which are the most feminized) there are
                                              > > more and more people hired to "solve" problems and conflicts between
                                              > > employees. So, when you have a problem with someone you will see the
                                              > > "mediator" rather than the first person. This is completely delirious and a
                                              > > sign of the emergence of the effeminate "elusive man" which is the result of
                                              > > the "democratic" West we live in. A good example of this "elusive man" is
                                              > > the one pointed by Hitler in his critique of parliamentarianism in "Mein
                                              > > Kampf".
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > - Animals
                                              > > > > Aryans didn't hate animals because they lived in harmony with nature and
                                              > > in communion with the universe. It's not the case of Orientals who like to
                                              > > make them suffered; convincing examples are Halal and Kosher slaughters and
                                              > > the fact that in Asia millions of animals are tortured (to death) each year.
                                              > > It's interesting to note that sadism (and masochism) are (destructive and
                                              > > autodestructive) feminine impulses; so it's not surprising to find them in
                                              > > Orientals because they have a feminine soul. About sadism you can read about
                                              > > the different treatment of slaves in the Indo-European and the Semitic
                                              > > worlds.
                                              > > > > Now let's talk about the fish. It's known that fish were despised by
                                              > > Aryans (so much that they didn't eat them even when they were in areas full
                                              > > of them) unlike Asians who appreciate them a lot. A crucial point is that
                                              > > fish is a sacred animal and a major symbol of christianity. This example
                                              > > shows that Christianization has not only been a Semitization but also an
                                              > > Asianization.
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > - Sexuality
                                              > > > > Nowadays sexuality is considered only as a way of reproduction or in a
                                              > > hedonistic way. Sexuality is therefore devoid of any higher principle.
                                              > > > > Consider sexuality only as a way of reproduction (like in abrahamic
                                              > > "religions") is characteristic of eastern matriarchies in which women are
                                              > > considered as goddesses because they can give birth. Consider sexuality only
                                              > > in a hedonistic way indicates the presence of a negroid soul.
                                              > > > > About the reproductive side even the reproduction itself is devoid of
                                              > > any principle because for non-Aryans, children are only seen in an
                                              > > utilitarian way whereas for Aryans, children are the blood of their blood,
                                              > > the perpetuation of their race. This lowering is reflected in the West
                                              > > especially among the bourgeoisie for whom having children is a social
                                              > > convention, which corresponds to an Asianization.
                                              > > > > About the hedonist side, which was made possible mainly through Jewish
                                              > > pornography, we can say that it has fed into the mind of westerns a false
                                              > > caricature negroid image of what manhood is, which is in total opposition to
                                              > > what it was in the Aryan world. Moreover the hedonization of the sexuality
                                              > > through pornography and internet causes progressive loss of real sex. There
                                              > > are two reasons behind the fact that people speak more and more about sex
                                              > > outside their private life. The first is that loss of real sex, the second
                                              > > is the infantilization and negrification which causes the loss of decency
                                              > > (indeed as an element of private life sexuality has to be kept in privacy
                                              > > and not discussed outside, if not it's a violation of intimacy). In addition
                                              > > pornography is mainly a way of perversion of sexuality and relations to
                                              > > sexuality. Whites who have no regular sex will sink into a porn addiction
                                              > > that will over the long term make them impotent. It also transforms a
                                              > > natural and healthy sexuality, which is a need, in an unhealthy and against
                                              > > nature sexuality, which is a desire.
                                              > > > > Eastern "societies" (especially Semitic ones) are known to be very
                                              > > sensual. Nowadays in the West it's clear that there is a latent perverse
                                              > > form of sexuality, propagated by advertisements and media (for example)
                                              > > which can only lead to frustration.
                                              > > > > Finally, it's wise to note that the only one society in which there was
                                              > > no prostitution was the Aryan Polis Sparta. Indeed Sparta was autarkic and
                                              > > closed to outside influences until its decline and has, as a consequence,
                                              > > succeed in canalizing its people, rise it spiritually and confer it a soul
                                              > > nobility. It's the opposite of the former Eastern "societies" where sacred
                                              > > prostitution was practiced. Nowadays prostitution in all its forms is
                                              > > widespread so much in the West than it can only be the sign of an
                                              > > orientalization.
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > (1) If you want more information about them you can, for example, check
                                              > > their wikipedia article.
                                              > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracalla
                                              > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliogabale
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > P.S.
                                              > > > > We must ensure the survival and regeneration of our holy and sacred
                                              > > Aryan race, which unfortunately has been largely mixed. This is the most
                                              > > important of our duties.
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > >
                                              > >
                                              >
                                            • Tony Ciapo
                                              First of all, we did bring up Evola s judgment of Savonarola (Sintesi, p 159), which is contrary to the one expressed, thus casting doubts on the entire
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                                                First of all, we did bring up Evola’s judgment of Savonarola (Sintesi, p 159), which is contrary to the one expressed, thus casting doubts on the entire effort. You can choose to ignore it if it doesn’t fit into your worldview.

                                                 

                                                From: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com [mailto:evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Evola
                                                Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 12:46 PM
                                                To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                                Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: A propos du rationalisme, du scientisme et de l'intelligence

                                                 

                                                 

                                                We could refer you to a short article about an acute, infectious disease - caused by several species of Rickettsia, transmitted by lice and fleas, and characterized by acute prostration, headache, and a peculiar eruption of reddish spots on the body -, an article in which the word 'typhus' is not mentionned in the body of the text.

                                                Is this - http://just-another-inside-job.blogspot.fr/2008/10/judeo-russian-mafia-from-gulag-to.html ; http://www.toqonline.com/blog/the-jewish-mafia/ ; http://haroonhaider.com/2009/09/20/cosa-nostra-mafia-is-actually-jewish-mafia/ - clear enough ?

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                                                --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "vandermok" <vandermok@...> wrote:
                                                >
                                                > Perhaps 'rouesolaire' can clarify better his thought about, because I did not see the world "mafia" in his message. Personally I do not think that Italian Mafia is composed of Hebrews, but of normal sons of bitches that by now and unfortunately are present in every race of this wonderful planet. We can assune that in HollywoodLeviStein they are more numerous, as Evola pointed out in "La Vita Italiana".
                                                > Since the men among the ruins are really few in the Kali Yuga, it's a pity if they have to quarrel just about some verbal misunderstanding. It is that the way of the counter-initiation: divide et impera.
                                                > ---------
                                                >
                                                > ----- Original Message -----
                                                > From: Evola
                                                > To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                                > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 7:33 PM
                                                > Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: A propos du rationalisme, du scientisme et de l'intelligence
                                                >
                                                >
                                                >
                                                > Do not flatter yourself. We just happen to have a good memory. Don't flatter us : the mechanical, geriatric, repetitiveness of your tiresome special pleadings and falsities makes it easier for us. We also happen to have eyes, which allow us to see a 'search' button at the top of this page. Both of them also tell us that "rouesolaire" did not claim that all Italians are Semites, but that the so-called "Italian mafia" is filled with Jews and kindred Orientals, using a subject-verb-complement paratactic structure to make sure even acute defectives do not loose the plot : "The Jewish, "Italian" (which is Semitic), Albanian, Chechen, Japanese and Chinese ones. They are all composed of Jews, Semites and Asians, so of Orientals."
                                                >
                                                > This forum is meant to be a place where to discuss topics related to the work of J. Evola, going into these further, broadening them, documenting and substantiating them as far as possible, not a rantroom, not a salon, not a lodge. In keeping with this demanding task, we will take this opportunity to remind members of a study which was posted some time ago here about the race change which occurred in Rome at the beginning of our era : http://www.giveshare.org/babylon/racechange.html - a sore subject on 'White Supremacists' forums such as Stormfront, on which "rouesolaire" might come across a message we posted years ago about the estimated proportion of 'natives' with Semitic blood in countries such as Italy.
                                                >
                                                > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Tony Ciapo" <hyperborean@> wrote:
                                                > >
                                                > > M. Carrou, I didn't realize you were maintaining a dossier on me. But it was
                                                > > M. rouesolaire, who claims that Italians are Semites, based on their alleged
                                                > > criminality. Perhaps he watches too many American movies. Do you expect your
                                                > > readers to take that claim seriously or let it pass by in silence? You need
                                                > > to develop a sense of irony; not everyone is as rigid as you imagine.
                                                > >
                                                > >
                                                > >
                                                > > From: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com [mailto:evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com]
                                                > > On Behalf Of Evola
                                                > > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:32 AM
                                                > > To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                                > > Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: A propos du rationalisme, du scientisme et de
                                                > > l'intelligence
                                                > >
                                                > >
                                                > >
                                                > >
                                                > >
                                                > > Three years ago, you wrote on this forum : "NOTE: Just so everyone
                                                > > understands who qualifies as a Nordic thinker. In the Italian edition Evola
                                                > > singles out Nietzsche, Weininger (an Austrian Jew who became a Protestant
                                                > > and suicided himself), and Michelstaedter (an Italian Jew and also a
                                                > > suicide). Needless to say, for the German edition all references to the
                                                > > latter two names were dropped, presumably on the principle: "discretion is
                                                > > the better part of valour."
                                                > >
                                                > > This was our reply : "With respect to your fanciful note, leaving aside that
                                                > > we have already mentioned twice that Weininger was half-Jewish, the fact is
                                                > > that that none of these three authors qualified as a Nordic thinker in
                                                > > Evola's eyes. The chapter is called 'Tradizione mediterranea contro
                                                > > tradizione cristiana', and, precisely, Nietzsche, Weininger, and
                                                > > Michelstaedter, were all seen by Evola as representatives of this
                                                > > 'Mediterranean tradition'. Hopefully, you will refrain from spreading such
                                                > > tendentious falsehoods about his thought on forums in which members may not
                                                > > have the opportunity to consult 'Imperialismo pagano'.
                                                > > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evola_as_he_is/message/989)
                                                > >
                                                > > Do not bother us any longer with your idees fixes.
                                                > >
                                                > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                                > > <mailto:evola_as_he_is%40yahoogroups.com> , "Hyperborean" <hyperborean@>
                                                > > wrote:
                                                > > >
                                                > > > So here is the "proof" that the Italian Julius Evola is really a Semite.
                                                > > It probably explains his fascination with Dada and his admiration for its
                                                > > Romanian Jewish leader, Tristan Tzara . not to mention Weininger and
                                                > > Michelstaedter. And there is the admiration Evola had for the Semite
                                                > > Girolamo Savonarola, when he wrote:
                                                > > >
                                                > > > "In that period [i.e., the Renaissance] such a [Ario-Roman] tradition was
                                                > > rather more alive in a Savonarola and in other men trying to stop the
                                                > > extrinsicism and aestheticism from leading the remaining forces of the Aryan
                                                > > race in Italy to the level of an effeminate culture [cultura afroditica]."
                                                > > >
                                                > > > And I have the final proof. Several years ago, I met an Italian countess
                                                > > who, as a child, had known Evola, since her Uncle and Evola were friends.
                                                > > She informed me that Evola often came over for dinner and discussion. I
                                                > > asked her what they would eat, and she informed me that it was typically
                                                > > "salmon".
                                                > > >
                                                > > >
                                                > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                                > > <mailto:evola_as_he_is%40yahoogroups.com> , "rouesolaire" <rouesolaire@>
                                                > > wrote:
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > > My English isn't very accurate but I guess some practice is going to
                                                > > give me the opportunity to improve it. I am going to do my best to be as
                                                > > clear as possible, avoiding English mistakes as I can.
                                                > > > > I think the best thing to do is to illustrate what I have explained in
                                                > > my previous posts by some concise examples taken among hundreds existing.
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > > - Corruption
                                                > > > > In Aryan societies there were always noble men like Cato the Elder (who
                                                > > should be a model for us) to efficiently fight corruption whatever form it
                                                > > took. In one hand, we can even say that there never was organized crime in
                                                > > Aryan societies but at worst some isolated criminals and small bandits band
                                                > > which were often quickly eradicated. In the other hand, it's the entire
                                                > > contrary in Asian "societies" where corruption is endemic and where criminal
                                                > > organizations are implanted for a while. It's why the desaryanization of
                                                > > Europe, which corresponded to its Asianization among others, has seen the
                                                > > emergence of corruption and organized crime.
                                                > > > > To prove what I say, which are the most powerful criminal organizations
                                                > > in the world, except Central and South America? The Jewish, "Italian" (which
                                                > > is Semitic), Albanian, Chechen, Japanese and Chinese ones. They are all
                                                > > composed of Jews, Semites and Asians, so of Orientals.
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > > - Different types of political systems
                                                > > > > In Roman Empire (even the "Semitic" one) if the emperor was "bad"
                                                > > (harmed his people and the interest of the Empire) his destiny was fixed
                                                > > quickly: the death (often by the hands of the Praetorian Guard). In Semitic
                                                > > territories tyrants could do whatever they want without being disturbed.
                                                > > It's one of the hundreds deep oppositions between Aryan society and
                                                > > Oriental/Semitic despotates. In Semitic ones there isn't justice.
                                                > > > > While we're at is we can mention two Semitic "Roman" emperors: Caracalla
                                                > > and Elagabalus (1) .
                                                > > > > The first gave, through the "edict of Caracalla", the citizenship to all
                                                > > freemen throughout the Roman Empire. The second is well known for having
                                                > > been subjected to women and even indirectly giving them political power.
                                                > > > > So, it was nothing else - from these two emperors - but a step towards
                                                > > egalitarianism, modern democracy and feminization of the Indo-Europeans
                                                > > societies.
                                                > > > > In the bottom despotism (tyranny of an untouchable and often
                                                > > illegitimate despot who can act against the interest of his own people),
                                                > > democracy (tyranny of the mass against the elite) and theocracy (which is in
                                                > > fact a masked form of despotism) are just some forms of elite crushing, they
                                                > > only use different ways to perform it, while dictatorship and aristocracy
                                                > > are the government of the elite.
                                                > > > > We can also speak about - from an Aryan viewpoint - the Asian oligarchy
                                                > > which is composed of scientists, academicians, scholars, economists and
                                                > > merchants and opposed to Aryan aristocracy which is typically composed of
                                                > > blood nobility, warlords and men of great (strength of) character.
                                                > > > > We can say that actual Europe is democratic on the form and oligarchic
                                                > > on the bottom, so Semitic on the form and Asian in the bottom. Modern
                                                > > democracy is a deleterious illusion that allows oligarchs - who have Jewish
                                                > > (who are mongrels of all races), Negroid, Semitic, Asian and non-Aryan blood
                                                > > and want to exterminate "Whites" and most of all the latest Aryans - to
                                                > > circumvent the Europeans.
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > > - Modern democracy
                                                > > > > I previously said that theocracy was masked despotism but in fact this
                                                > > must be qualified because modern democracy is more or less theocratic
                                                > > inspiration and isn't a despotic system. The Semite Girolamo Savonarola
                                                > > introduced in Florence a theological-democratic system.
                                                > > > > Everyone knows that Europeans have always been reluctant to theocracy.
                                                > > The feminine pseudo-principles worn by christianism, which has the form of a
                                                > > religion but is in reality from an Aryan viewpoint an anti-Aryan
                                                > > revolutionary ideology, could only be adopted by them - after centuries of
                                                > > Jewish propaganda and other forms of psychological warfare, directly
                                                > > inspired by the teachings of the Chinese Sun Tzu, aimed at destroying
                                                > > Europeans mentally and effeminate them - by making the form acceptable, in
                                                > > secularizing Christianism by changing his shape. The old shape was
                                                > > "religious" (in the Semitic significance of the term), the new one will have
                                                > > the shape of a secular legislation. This is the case, to take the best known
                                                > > example, of the declaration of human rights.
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > > - War
                                                > > > > The very feminine psychological war which was totally unknown in the
                                                > > ancient Aryan world but very developed in the writings of Sun Tzu is
                                                > > nowadays present everywhere in West. In addition, applied oriental science
                                                > > has made war totally different from what it once was and has facilitated the
                                                > > entry of women in the military.
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > > - Medicine
                                                > > > > The Semitic modern medicine has for main goal to make people who are
                                                > > healthy sick and to maintain people who are sick in life; it's the best way
                                                > > to do business. Moreover I absolutely don't believe in the alleged
                                                > > improvements of living conditions and "life expectancy" claimed by liar
                                                > > media and scientists. Firstly it's known that in ancient times Aryans
                                                > > Europeans were generally in better health than today populace and that some
                                                > > famous ones lived over 90 years. For example Polybius died at age 82 of a
                                                > > riding accident. Nowadays how many Europeans over 70 years don't take
                                                > > medical treatment or are in good health (physically and mentally)? Very
                                                > > little. How many 82 years old Europeans could ride a horse for hours?
                                                > > > > In addition, modern medicine has made the mass comfort abortion
                                                > > possible, which has prevented the birth of tens of millions of White babies,
                                                > > while this medicine allows anti-natural in-vitro fertilization and
                                                > > artificial insemination and some kinds of dysgenism.
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > > - Economy
                                                > > > > Firstly, the modern, oriental meaning of the economy isn't the same as
                                                > > that defined in the Indo-Europeans societies. Anyone who wants to know what
                                                > > economy means in the Indo-European viewpoint can read "Economics" of
                                                > > Xenophon or pseudo-Aristotle.
                                                > > > > Eastern "societies" have the peculiarity that - because of their natural
                                                > > bargaining - economy prevails within them. That wasn't the case in Aryan
                                                > > societies and economy has progressively become an obsession as Europe
                                                > > physically and mentally orientalized herself. The fact is that everything is
                                                > > nowadays considered as a business in West.
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > > - Linearity and cyclicality of "history"
                                                > > > > Today almost everyone believes in the linear view of history. The
                                                > > Semitic conception of "history" is linear; it has a beginning, an end and
                                                > > evolves in a certain direction (has a tropism). The most representative
                                                > > cases are the Abrahamic "religions" with their "World creation" and their
                                                > > "end of the World". This is the contrary of the Aryan conception of
                                                > > "history" which is cyclic.
                                                > > > > Moreover the most recent form of ideology promoting historical linearity
                                                > > is that of Jew Marx who had Asian and Semitic blood. He theorized the
                                                > > historical materialism which states that the history of "humanity" is shaped
                                                > > by the relationship between social classes.
                                                > > > > According to this theory, in prehistory all men lived in a paradisiacal
                                                > > communist community. -> The paradise of Adam and Eve.
                                                > > > > History begins with technical progress which is considered as the factor
                                                > > which has made the enslavement of man possible to landlords -> The original
                                                > > sin that marks the beginning of the enslavement of man to the (d)evil and
                                                > > his fall to earth.
                                                > > > > Finally, we jump ahead to the last step. All social classes disappear
                                                > > and the international communist community is being established forever->
                                                > > This is heaven on Earth of Jehovah's Witnesses where "there is neither Jew
                                                > > nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ
                                                > > Jesus."
                                                > > > > It's the opposite of the Aryan conception of history where society is
                                                > > founded (often) during the Golden Age.
                                                > > > > After the beginning of this Age there is a foundation war between the
                                                > > third caste and the alliance of the second and first castes. After long
                                                > > battles there are no vanquishers so the three castes decide to unite to
                                                > > found the Aryan society. Then there is no friction or problems between the
                                                > > three castes until the beginning of the Kali Yuga which will see the gradual
                                                > > destruction of the Aryan society.
                                                > > > > In conclusion I can add that creationism and evolutionism, which are
                                                > > straight from the Semitic mind, are not opposites but the two sides of the
                                                > > same coin, as I have explained in prior posts.
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > > - The emphasis on aesthetics
                                                > > > > There is no need to develop this part but just to point out that today
                                                > > aesthetics prevails in the West, what is materialistic, superficial and
                                                > > which is a sign of feminization of the society.
                                                > > > > In this regard I have been stroked by the movie "american psycho" whose
                                                > > main protagonist is the Jewish trader "Bateman", because he is an
                                                > > illustration of the feminine, superficial, parasitic, neurotic, psychotic,
                                                > > destructive and autodestructive model which is becoming the new reality of
                                                > > the Western man.
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > > - Talking shop
                                                > > > > In our modern West society talking shop prevails.
                                                > > > > A delirious example of this kind of feminization is that in big
                                                > > enterprises (the big ones are those which are the most feminized) there are
                                                > > more and more people hired to "solve" problems and conflicts between
                                                > > employees. So, when you have a problem with someone you will see the
                                                > > "mediator" rather than the first person. This is completely delirious and a
                                                > > sign of the emergence of the effeminate "elusive man" which is the result of
                                                > > the "democratic" West we live in. A good example of this "elusive man" is
                                                > > the one pointed by Hitler in his critique of parliamentarianism in "Mein
                                                > > Kampf".
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > > - Animals
                                                > > > > Aryans didn't hate animals because they lived in harmony with nature and
                                                > > in communion with the universe. It's not the case of Orientals who like to
                                                > > make them suffered; convincing examples are Halal and Kosher slaughters and
                                                > > the fact that in Asia millions of animals are tortured (to death) each year.
                                                > > It's interesting to note that sadism (and masochism) are (destructive and
                                                > > autodestructive) feminine impulses; so it's not surprising to find them in
                                                > > Orientals because they have a feminine soul. About sadism you can read about
                                                > > the different treatment of slaves in the Indo-European and the Semitic
                                                > > worlds.
                                                > > > > Now let's talk about the fish. It's known that fish were despised by
                                                > > Aryans (so much that they didn't eat them even when they were in areas full
                                                > > of them) unlike Asians who appreciate them a lot. A crucial point is that
                                                > > fish is a sacred animal and a major symbol of christianity. This example
                                                > > shows that Christianization has not only been a Semitization but also an
                                                > > Asianization.
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > > - Sexuality
                                                > > > > Nowadays sexuality is considered only as a way of reproduction or in a
                                                > > hedonistic way. Sexuality is therefore devoid of any higher principle.
                                                > > > > Consider sexuality only as a way of reproduction (like in abrahamic
                                                > > "religions") is characteristic of eastern matriarchies in which women are
                                                > > considered as goddesses because they can give birth. Consider sexuality only
                                                > > in a hedonistic way indicates the presence of a negroid soul.
                                                > > > > About the reproductive side even the reproduction itself is devoid of
                                                > > any principle because for non-Aryans, children are only seen in an
                                                > > utilitarian way whereas for Aryans, children are the blood of their blood,
                                                > > the perpetuation of their race. This lowering is reflected in the West
                                                > > especially among the bourgeoisie for whom having children is a social
                                                > > convention, which corresponds to an Asianization.
                                                > > > > About the hedonist side, which was made possible mainly through Jewish
                                                > > pornography, we can say that it has fed into the mind of westerns a false
                                                > > caricature negroid image of what manhood is, which is in total opposition to
                                                > > what it was in the Aryan world. Moreover the hedonization of the sexuality
                                                > > through pornography and internet causes progressive loss of real sex. There
                                                > > are two reasons behind the fact that people speak more and more about sex
                                                > > outside their private life. The first is that loss of real sex, the second
                                                > > is the infantilization and negrification which causes the loss of decency
                                                > > (indeed as an element of private life sexuality has to be kept in privacy
                                                > > and not discussed outside, if not it's a violation of intimacy). In addition
                                                > > pornography is mainly a way of perversion of sexuality and relations to
                                                > > sexuality. Whites who have no regular sex will sink into a porn addiction
                                                > > that will over the long term make them impotent. It also transforms a
                                                > > natural and healthy sexuality, which is a need, in an unhealthy and against
                                                > > nature sexuality, which is a desire.
                                                > > > > Eastern "societies" (especially Semitic ones) are known to be very
                                                > > sensual. Nowadays in the West it's clear that there is a latent perverse
                                                > > form of sexuality, propagated by advertisements and media (for example)
                                                > > which can only lead to frustration.
                                                > > > > Finally, it's wise to note that the only one society in which there was
                                                > > no prostitution was the Aryan Polis Sparta. Indeed Sparta was autarkic and
                                                > > closed to outside influences until its decline and has, as a consequence,
                                                > > succeed in canalizing its people, rise it spiritually and confer it a soul
                                                > > nobility. It's the opposite of the former Eastern "societies" where sacred
                                                > > prostitution was practiced. Nowadays prostitution in all its forms is
                                                > > widespread so much in the West than it can only be the sign of an
                                                > > orientalization.
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > > (1) If you want more information about them you can, for example, check
                                                > > their wikipedia article.
                                                > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracalla
                                                > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliogabale
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > > P.S.
                                                > > > > We must ensure the survival and regeneration of our holy and sacred
                                                > > Aryan race, which unfortunately has been largely mixed. This is the most
                                                > > important of our duties.
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > >
                                                > > >
                                                > >
                                                >

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                                                  You have missed the boat. Not only we are aware of the positive views which were expressed by J. Evola in 'Sintesi' on Savonarola, who advocated a return to early Christianity, but, as some readers may be aware of, we were the first to show, in`The Jewels of the Papacy', a study which we had to conduct in the absence of any work, whether scholarly or not, on the issue, that the so-called Holy Roman Empire, for which J. Evola expressed repeatedly his admiration, was, in its very foundations, a parody of the Roman empire.

                                                  In reviewing the instruments of the occult war, J. Evola drew inspiration from some of the points developed by R. Guenon in `The Reign of the Quantity' ; he identified eight of them, yet disregarding completely the phenomenon of parody. We have already pointed out that the misjudgements and errors made by the Italian author in the analysis of the fundamental origins of the crisis of the
                                                  modern world and his failure to recognise some of the most hidden conveyor belts of the anti-European forces of subversion at work are mainly due to his insensitivity to this phenomenon. In `Il confusionismo antisemita quale strumento della guerra occulta' (now in `I Testi de La Vita Italiana', Edizioni di Ar), he went so far as to suggest, albeit cautiously, that "the Company of Jesus might be the only well-known (sic) western organisation which, owing to
                                                  its knowledge of the plan and of the instruments that are best suited for the struggle, might be able to challenge to the hidden leaders of worldwide subversion".

                                                  Just because R. Guenon and J. Evola gave us adequate methodological and operative instruments to explore and understand the tools of the 'occult war', it does not mean that they were able to apply them to the right objects in all instances. It is up to those who have the right qualifications to rectify their errors in this field.


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                                                  --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Tony Ciapo" <hyperborean@...> wrote:
                                                  >
                                                  > First of all, we did bring up Evola's judgment of Savonarola (Sintesi, p
                                                  > 159), which is contrary to the one expressed, thus casting doubts on the
                                                  > entire effort. You can choose to ignore it if it doesn't fit into your
                                                  > worldview.
                                                  >
                                                  >
                                                  >
                                                  > From: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com [mailto:evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com]
                                                  > On Behalf Of Evola
                                                  > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 12:46 PM
                                                  > To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                                  > Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: A propos du rationalisme, du scientisme et de
                                                  > l'intelligence
                                                  >
                                                  >
                                                  >
                                                  >
                                                  >
                                                  > We could refer you to a short article about an acute, infectious disease -
                                                  > caused by several species of Rickettsia, transmitted by lice and fleas, and
                                                  > characterized by acute prostration, headache, and a peculiar eruption of
                                                  > reddish spots on the body -, an article in which the word 'typhus' is not
                                                  > mentionned in the body of the text.
                                                  >
                                                  > Is this -
                                                  > http://just-another-inside-job.blogspot.fr/2008/10/judeo-russian-mafia-from-
                                                  > gulag-to.html ; http://www.toqonline.com/blog/the-jewish-mafia/ ;
                                                  > http://haroonhaider.com/2009/09/20/cosa-nostra-mafia-is-actually-jewish-mafi
                                                  > a/ - clear enough ?
                                                  >
                                                  > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                                  > <mailto:evola_as_he_is%40yahoogroups.com> , "vandermok" <vandermok@>
                                                  > wrote:
                                                  > >
                                                  > > Perhaps 'rouesolaire' can clarify better his thought about, because I did
                                                  > not see the world "mafia" in his message. Personally I do not think that
                                                  > Italian Mafia is composed of Hebrews, but of normal sons of bitches that by
                                                  > now and unfortunately are present in every race of this wonderful planet. We
                                                  > can assune that in HollywoodLeviStein they are more numerous, as Evola
                                                  > pointed out in "La Vita Italiana".
                                                  > > Since the men among the ruins are really few in the Kali Yuga, it's a pity
                                                  > if they have to quarrel just about some verbal misunderstanding. It is that
                                                  > the way of the counter-initiation: divide et impera.
                                                  > > ---------
                                                  > >
                                                  > > ----- Original Message -----
                                                  > > From: Evola
                                                  > > To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                                  > <mailto:evola_as_he_is%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                  > > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 7:33 PM
                                                  > > Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: A propos du rationalisme, du scientisme et
                                                  > de l'intelligence
                                                  > >
                                                  > >
                                                  > >
                                                  > > Do not flatter yourself. We just happen to have a good memory. Don't
                                                  > flatter us : the mechanical, geriatric, repetitiveness of your tiresome
                                                  > special pleadings and falsities makes it easier for us. We also happen to
                                                  > have eyes, which allow us to see a 'search' button at the top of this page.
                                                  > Both of them also tell us that "rouesolaire" did not claim that all Italians
                                                  > are Semites, but that the so-called "Italian mafia" is filled with Jews and
                                                  > kindred Orientals, using a subject-verb-complement paratactic structure to
                                                  > make sure even acute defectives do not loose the plot : "The Jewish,
                                                  > "Italian" (which is Semitic), Albanian, Chechen, Japanese and Chinese ones.
                                                  > They are all composed of Jews, Semites and Asians, so of Orientals."
                                                  > >
                                                  > > This forum is meant to be a place where to discuss topics related to the
                                                  > work of J. Evola, going into these further, broadening them, documenting and
                                                  > substantiating them as far as possible, not a rantroom, not a salon, not a
                                                  > lodge. In keeping with this demanding task, we will take this opportunity to
                                                  > remind members of a study which was posted some time ago here about the race
                                                  > change which occurred in Rome at the beginning of our era :
                                                  > http://www.giveshare.org/babylon/racechange.html - a sore subject on 'White
                                                  > Supremacists' forums such as Stormfront, on which "rouesolaire" might come
                                                  > across a message we posted years ago about the estimated proportion of
                                                  > 'natives' with Semitic blood in countries such as Italy.
                                                  > >
                                                  > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                                  > <mailto:evola_as_he_is%40yahoogroups.com> , "Tony Ciapo" <hyperborean@>
                                                  > wrote:
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > M. Carrou, I didn't realize you were maintaining a dossier on me. But it
                                                  > was
                                                  > > > M. rouesolaire, who claims that Italians are Semites, based on their
                                                  > alleged
                                                  > > > criminality. Perhaps he watches too many American movies. Do you expect
                                                  > your
                                                  > > > readers to take that claim seriously or let it pass by in silence? You
                                                  > need
                                                  > > > to develop a sense of irony; not everyone is as rigid as you imagine.
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > From: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                                  > <mailto:evola_as_he_is%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                  > [mailto:evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                                  > <mailto:evola_as_he_is%40yahoogroups.com> ]
                                                  > > > On Behalf Of Evola
                                                  > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:32 AM
                                                  > > > To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                                  > <mailto:evola_as_he_is%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                  > > > Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: A propos du rationalisme, du scientisme et
                                                  > de
                                                  > > > l'intelligence
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > Three years ago, you wrote on this forum : "NOTE: Just so everyone
                                                  > > > understands who qualifies as a Nordic thinker. In the Italian edition
                                                  > Evola
                                                  > > > singles out Nietzsche, Weininger (an Austrian Jew who became a
                                                  > Protestant
                                                  > > > and suicided himself), and Michelstaedter (an Italian Jew and also a
                                                  > > > suicide). Needless to say, for the German edition all references to the
                                                  > > > latter two names were dropped, presumably on the principle: "discretion
                                                  > is
                                                  > > > the better part of valour."
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > This was our reply : "With respect to your fanciful note, leaving aside
                                                  > that
                                                  > > > we have already mentioned twice that Weininger was half-Jewish, the fact
                                                  > is
                                                  > > > that that none of these three authors qualified as a Nordic thinker in
                                                  > > > Evola's eyes. The chapter is called 'Tradizione mediterranea contro
                                                  > > > tradizione cristiana', and, precisely, Nietzsche, Weininger, and
                                                  > > > Michelstaedter, were all seen by Evola as representatives of this
                                                  > > > 'Mediterranean tradition'. Hopefully, you will refrain from spreading
                                                  > such
                                                  > > > tendentious falsehoods about his thought on forums in which members may
                                                  > not
                                                  > > > have the opportunity to consult 'Imperialismo pagano'.
                                                  > > > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evola_as_he_is/message/989)
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > Do not bother us any longer with your idees fixes.
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                                  > <mailto:evola_as_he_is%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                  > > > <mailto:evola_as_he_is%40yahoogroups.com> , "Hyperborean" <hyperborean@>
                                                  > > > wrote:
                                                  > > > >
                                                  > > > > So here is the "proof" that the Italian Julius Evola is really a
                                                  > Semite.
                                                  > > > It probably explains his fascination with Dada and his admiration for
                                                  > its
                                                  > > > Romanian Jewish leader, Tristan Tzara . not to mention Weininger and
                                                  > > > Michelstaedter. And there is the admiration Evola had for the Semite
                                                  > > > Girolamo Savonarola, when he wrote:
                                                  > > > >
                                                  > > > > "In that period [i.e., the Renaissance] such a [Ario-Roman] tradition
                                                  > was
                                                  > > > rather more alive in a Savonarola and in other men trying to stop the
                                                  > > > extrinsicism and aestheticism from leading the remaining forces of the
                                                  > Aryan
                                                  > > > race in Italy to the level of an effeminate culture [cultura
                                                  > afroditica]."
                                                  > > > >
                                                  > > > > And I have the final proof. Several years ago, I met an Italian
                                                  > countess
                                                  > > > who, as a child, had known Evola, since her Uncle and Evola were
                                                  > friends.
                                                  > > > She informed me that Evola often came over for dinner and discussion. I
                                                  > > > asked her what they would eat, and she informed me that it was typically
                                                  > > > "salmon".
                                                  > > > >
                                                  > > > >
                                                  > > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                                  > <mailto:evola_as_he_is%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                  > > > <mailto:evola_as_he_is%40yahoogroups.com> , "rouesolaire" <rouesolaire@>
                                                  > > > wrote:
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > > My English isn't very accurate but I guess some practice is going to
                                                  > > > give me the opportunity to improve it. I am going to do my best to be as
                                                  > > > clear as possible, avoiding English mistakes as I can.
                                                  > > > > > I think the best thing to do is to illustrate what I have explained
                                                  > in
                                                  > > > my previous posts by some concise examples taken among hundreds
                                                  > existing.
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > > - Corruption
                                                  > > > > > In Aryan societies there were always noble men like Cato the Elder
                                                  > (who
                                                  > > > should be a model for us) to efficiently fight corruption whatever form
                                                  > it
                                                  > > > took. In one hand, we can even say that there never was organized crime
                                                  > in
                                                  > > > Aryan societies but at worst some isolated criminals and small bandits
                                                  > band
                                                  > > > which were often quickly eradicated. In the other hand, it's the entire
                                                  > > > contrary in Asian "societies" where corruption is endemic and where
                                                  > criminal
                                                  > > > organizations are implanted for a while. It's why the desaryanization of
                                                  > > > Europe, which corresponded to its Asianization among others, has seen
                                                  > the
                                                  > > > emergence of corruption and organized crime.
                                                  > > > > > To prove what I say, which are the most powerful criminal
                                                  > organizations
                                                  > > > in the world, except Central and South America? The Jewish, "Italian"
                                                  > (which
                                                  > > > is Semitic), Albanian, Chechen, Japanese and Chinese ones. They are all
                                                  > > > composed of Jews, Semites and Asians, so of Orientals.
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > > - Different types of political systems
                                                  > > > > > In Roman Empire (even the "Semitic" one) if the emperor was "bad"
                                                  > > > (harmed his people and the interest of the Empire) his destiny was fixed
                                                  > > > quickly: the death (often by the hands of the Praetorian Guard). In
                                                  > Semitic
                                                  > > > territories tyrants could do whatever they want without being disturbed.
                                                  > > > It's one of the hundreds deep oppositions between Aryan society and
                                                  > > > Oriental/Semitic despotates. In Semitic ones there isn't justice.
                                                  > > > > > While we're at is we can mention two Semitic "Roman" emperors:
                                                  > Caracalla
                                                  > > > and Elagabalus (1) .
                                                  > > > > > The first gave, through the "edict of Caracalla", the citizenship to
                                                  > all
                                                  > > > freemen throughout the Roman Empire. The second is well known for having
                                                  > > > been subjected to women and even indirectly giving them political power.
                                                  >
                                                  > > > > > So, it was nothing else - from these two emperors - but a step
                                                  > towards
                                                  > > > egalitarianism, modern democracy and feminization of the Indo-Europeans
                                                  > > > societies.
                                                  > > > > > In the bottom despotism (tyranny of an untouchable and often
                                                  > > > illegitimate despot who can act against the interest of his own people),
                                                  > > > democracy (tyranny of the mass against the elite) and theocracy (which
                                                  > is in
                                                  > > > fact a masked form of despotism) are just some forms of elite crushing,
                                                  > they
                                                  > > > only use different ways to perform it, while dictatorship and
                                                  > aristocracy
                                                  > > > are the government of the elite.
                                                  > > > > > We can also speak about - from an Aryan viewpoint - the Asian
                                                  > oligarchy
                                                  > > > which is composed of scientists, academicians, scholars, economists and
                                                  > > > merchants and opposed to Aryan aristocracy which is typically composed
                                                  > of
                                                  > > > blood nobility, warlords and men of great (strength of) character.
                                                  > > > > > We can say that actual Europe is democratic on the form and
                                                  > oligarchic
                                                  > > > on the bottom, so Semitic on the form and Asian in the bottom. Modern
                                                  > > > democracy is a deleterious illusion that allows oligarchs - who have
                                                  > Jewish
                                                  > > > (who are mongrels of all races), Negroid, Semitic, Asian and non-Aryan
                                                  > blood
                                                  > > > and want to exterminate "Whites" and most of all the latest Aryans - to
                                                  > > > circumvent the Europeans.
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > > - Modern democracy
                                                  > > > > > I previously said that theocracy was masked despotism but in fact
                                                  > this
                                                  > > > must be qualified because modern democracy is more or less theocratic
                                                  > > > inspiration and isn't a despotic system. The Semite Girolamo Savonarola
                                                  > > > introduced in Florence a theological-democratic system.
                                                  > > > > > Everyone knows that Europeans have always been reluctant to
                                                  > theocracy.
                                                  > > > The feminine pseudo-principles worn by christianism, which has the form
                                                  > of a
                                                  > > > religion but is in reality from an Aryan viewpoint an anti-Aryan
                                                  > > > revolutionary ideology, could only be adopted by them - after centuries
                                                  > of
                                                  > > > Jewish propaganda and other forms of psychological warfare, directly
                                                  > > > inspired by the teachings of the Chinese Sun Tzu, aimed at destroying
                                                  > > > Europeans mentally and effeminate them - by making the form acceptable,
                                                  > in
                                                  > > > secularizing Christianism by changing his shape. The old shape was
                                                  > > > "religious" (in the Semitic significance of the term), the new one will
                                                  > have
                                                  > > > the shape of a secular legislation. This is the case, to take the best
                                                  > known
                                                  > > > example, of the declaration of human rights.
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > > - War
                                                  > > > > > The very feminine psychological war which was totally unknown in the
                                                  > > > ancient Aryan world but very developed in the writings of Sun Tzu is
                                                  > > > nowadays present everywhere in West. In addition, applied oriental
                                                  > science
                                                  > > > has made war totally different from what it once was and has facilitated
                                                  > the
                                                  > > > entry of women in the military.
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > > - Medicine
                                                  > > > > > The Semitic modern medicine has for main goal to make people who are
                                                  > > > healthy sick and to maintain people who are sick in life; it's the best
                                                  > way
                                                  > > > to do business. Moreover I absolutely don't believe in the alleged
                                                  > > > improvements of living conditions and "life expectancy" claimed by liar
                                                  > > > media and scientists. Firstly it's known that in ancient times Aryans
                                                  > > > Europeans were generally in better health than today populace and that
                                                  > some
                                                  > > > famous ones lived over 90 years. For example Polybius died at age 82 of
                                                  > a
                                                  > > > riding accident. Nowadays how many Europeans over 70 years don't take
                                                  > > > medical treatment or are in good health (physically and mentally)? Very
                                                  > > > little. How many 82 years old Europeans could ride a horse for hours?
                                                  > > > > > In addition, modern medicine has made the mass comfort abortion
                                                  > > > possible, which has prevented the birth of tens of millions of White
                                                  > babies,
                                                  > > > while this medicine allows anti-natural in-vitro fertilization and
                                                  > > > artificial insemination and some kinds of dysgenism.
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > > - Economy
                                                  > > > > > Firstly, the modern, oriental meaning of the economy isn't the same
                                                  > as
                                                  > > > that defined in the Indo-Europeans societies. Anyone who wants to know
                                                  > what
                                                  > > > economy means in the Indo-European viewpoint can read "Economics" of
                                                  > > > Xenophon or pseudo-Aristotle.
                                                  > > > > > Eastern "societies" have the peculiarity that - because of their
                                                  > natural
                                                  > > > bargaining - economy prevails within them. That wasn't the case in Aryan
                                                  > > > societies and economy has progressively become an obsession as Europe
                                                  > > > physically and mentally orientalized herself. The fact is that
                                                  > everything is
                                                  > > > nowadays considered as a business in West.
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > > - Linearity and cyclicality of "history"
                                                  > > > > > Today almost everyone believes in the linear view of history. The
                                                  > > > Semitic conception of "history" is linear; it has a beginning, an end
                                                  > and
                                                  > > > evolves in a certain direction (has a tropism). The most representative
                                                  > > > cases are the Abrahamic "religions" with their "World creation" and
                                                  > their
                                                  > > > "end of the World". This is the contrary of the Aryan conception of
                                                  > > > "history" which is cyclic.
                                                  > > > > > Moreover the most recent form of ideology promoting historical
                                                  > linearity
                                                  > > > is that of Jew Marx who had Asian and Semitic blood. He theorized the
                                                  > > > historical materialism which states that the history of "humanity" is
                                                  > shaped
                                                  > > > by the relationship between social classes.
                                                  > > > > > According to this theory, in prehistory all men lived in a
                                                  > paradisiacal
                                                  > > > communist community. -> The paradise of Adam and Eve.
                                                  > > > > > History begins with technical progress which is considered as the
                                                  > factor
                                                  > > > which has made the enslavement of man possible to landlords -> The
                                                  > original
                                                  > > > sin that marks the beginning of the enslavement of man to the (d)evil
                                                  > and
                                                  > > > his fall to earth.
                                                  > > > > > Finally, we jump ahead to the last step. All social classes
                                                  > disappear
                                                  > > > and the international communist community is being established forever->
                                                  > > > This is heaven on Earth of Jehovah's Witnesses where "there is neither
                                                  > Jew
                                                  > > > nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in
                                                  > Christ
                                                  > > > Jesus."
                                                  > > > > > It's the opposite of the Aryan conception of history where society
                                                  > is
                                                  > > > founded (often) during the Golden Age.
                                                  > > > > > After the beginning of this Age there is a foundation war between
                                                  > the
                                                  > > > third caste and the alliance of the second and first castes. After long
                                                  > > > battles there are no vanquishers so the three castes decide to unite to
                                                  > > > found the Aryan society. Then there is no friction or problems between
                                                  > the
                                                  > > > three castes until the beginning of the Kali Yuga which will see the
                                                  > gradual
                                                  > > > destruction of the Aryan society.
                                                  > > > > > In conclusion I can add that creationism and evolutionism, which are
                                                  > > > straight from the Semitic mind, are not opposites but the two sides of
                                                  > the
                                                  > > > same coin, as I have explained in prior posts.
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > > - The emphasis on aesthetics
                                                  > > > > > There is no need to develop this part but just to point out that
                                                  > today
                                                  > > > aesthetics prevails in the West, what is materialistic, superficial and
                                                  > > > which is a sign of feminization of the society.
                                                  > > > > > In this regard I have been stroked by the movie "american psycho"
                                                  > whose
                                                  > > > main protagonist is the Jewish trader "Bateman", because he is an
                                                  > > > illustration of the feminine, superficial, parasitic, neurotic,
                                                  > psychotic,
                                                  > > > destructive and autodestructive model which is becoming the new reality
                                                  > of
                                                  > > > the Western man.
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > > - Talking shop
                                                  > > > > > In our modern West society talking shop prevails.
                                                  > > > > > A delirious example of this kind of feminization is that in big
                                                  > > > enterprises (the big ones are those which are the most feminized) there
                                                  > are
                                                  > > > more and more people hired to "solve" problems and conflicts between
                                                  > > > employees. So, when you have a problem with someone you will see the
                                                  > > > "mediator" rather than the first person. This is completely delirious
                                                  > and a
                                                  > > > sign of the emergence of the effeminate "elusive man" which is the
                                                  > result of
                                                  > > > the "democratic" West we live in. A good example of this "elusive man"
                                                  > is
                                                  > > > the one pointed by Hitler in his critique of parliamentarianism in "Mein
                                                  > > > Kampf".
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > > - Animals
                                                  > > > > > Aryans didn't hate animals because they lived in harmony with nature
                                                  > and
                                                  > > > in communion with the universe. It's not the case of Orientals who like
                                                  > to
                                                  > > > make them suffered; convincing examples are Halal and Kosher slaughters
                                                  > and
                                                  > > > the fact that in Asia millions of animals are tortured (to death) each
                                                  > year.
                                                  > > > It's interesting to note that sadism (and masochism) are (destructive
                                                  > and
                                                  > > > autodestructive) feminine impulses; so it's not surprising to find them
                                                  > in
                                                  > > > Orientals because they have a feminine soul. About sadism you can read
                                                  > about
                                                  > > > the different treatment of slaves in the Indo-European and the Semitic
                                                  > > > worlds.
                                                  > > > > > Now let's talk about the fish. It's known that fish were despised by
                                                  > > > Aryans (so much that they didn't eat them even when they were in areas
                                                  > full
                                                  > > > of them) unlike Asians who appreciate them a lot. A crucial point is
                                                  > that
                                                  > > > fish is a sacred animal and a major symbol of christianity. This example
                                                  > > > shows that Christianization has not only been a Semitization but also an
                                                  > > > Asianization.
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > > - Sexuality
                                                  > > > > > Nowadays sexuality is considered only as a way of reproduction or in
                                                  > a
                                                  > > > hedonistic way. Sexuality is therefore devoid of any higher principle.
                                                  > > > > > Consider sexuality only as a way of reproduction (like in abrahamic
                                                  > > > "religions") is characteristic of eastern matriarchies in which women
                                                  > are
                                                  > > > considered as goddesses because they can give birth. Consider sexuality
                                                  > only
                                                  > > > in a hedonistic way indicates the presence of a negroid soul.
                                                  > > > > > About the reproductive side even the reproduction itself is devoid
                                                  > of
                                                  > > > any principle because for non-Aryans, children are only seen in an
                                                  > > > utilitarian way whereas for Aryans, children are the blood of their
                                                  > blood,
                                                  > > > the perpetuation of their race. This lowering is reflected in the West
                                                  > > > especially among the bourgeoisie for whom having children is a social
                                                  > > > convention, which corresponds to an Asianization.
                                                  > > > > > About the hedonist side, which was made possible mainly through
                                                  > Jewish
                                                  > > > pornography, we can say that it has fed into the mind of westerns a
                                                  > false
                                                  > > > caricature negroid image of what manhood is, which is in total
                                                  > opposition to
                                                  > > > what it was in the Aryan world. Moreover the hedonization of the
                                                  > sexuality
                                                  > > > through pornography and internet causes progressive loss of real sex.
                                                  > There
                                                  > > > are two reasons behind the fact that people speak more and more about
                                                  > sex
                                                  > > > outside their private life. The first is that loss of real sex, the
                                                  > second
                                                  > > > is the infantilization and negrification which causes the loss of
                                                  > decency
                                                  > > > (indeed as an element of private life sexuality has to be kept in
                                                  > privacy
                                                  > > > and not discussed outside, if not it's a violation of intimacy). In
                                                  > addition
                                                  > > > pornography is mainly a way of perversion of sexuality and relations to
                                                  > > > sexuality. Whites who have no regular sex will sink into a porn
                                                  > addiction
                                                  > > > that will over the long term make them impotent. It also transforms a
                                                  > > > natural and healthy sexuality, which is a need, in an unhealthy and
                                                  > against
                                                  > > > nature sexuality, which is a desire.
                                                  > > > > > Eastern "societies" (especially Semitic ones) are known to be very
                                                  > > > sensual. Nowadays in the West it's clear that there is a latent perverse
                                                  > > > form of sexuality, propagated by advertisements and media (for example)
                                                  > > > which can only lead to frustration.
                                                  > > > > > Finally, it's wise to note that the only one society in which there
                                                  > was
                                                  > > > no prostitution was the Aryan Polis Sparta. Indeed Sparta was autarkic
                                                  > and
                                                  > > > closed to outside influences until its decline and has, as a
                                                  > consequence,
                                                  > > > succeed in canalizing its people, rise it spiritually and confer it a
                                                  > soul
                                                  > > > nobility. It's the opposite of the former Eastern "societies" where
                                                  > sacred
                                                  > > > prostitution was practiced. Nowadays prostitution in all its forms is
                                                  > > > widespread so much in the West than it can only be the sign of an
                                                  > > > orientalization.
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > > (1) If you want more information about them you can, for example,
                                                  > check
                                                  > > > their wikipedia article.
                                                  > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracalla
                                                  > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliogabale
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > > P.S.
                                                  > > > > > We must ensure the survival and regeneration of our holy and sacred
                                                  > > > Aryan race, which unfortunately has been largely mixed. This is the most
                                                  > > > important of our duties.
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > >
                                                  >
                                                • tlefranc10
                                                  Regarding the topic of sexuality, but also other topics such as the lack of morality and delicacy and bad conduct, I found particularly interesting, and
                                                  Message 24 of 28 , Jun 14, 2013
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                                                    Regarding the topic of sexuality, but also other topics such as the lack of morality and delicacy and bad conduct, I found particularly interesting, and revealing of the roots of today's society, a comment made by a psychiatric in a radio talk about de Sade. He said the infamous characters de Sade portrayed in his novels, beyond their obvious perverse and sadistic tendencies, had a speech very close to that of today's "establishment" and media. These characters advocated the breaking of many moral rules; that marriage was slavery; that kindness and restraint were imposed by society; that pleasure should come first; that children should be taught sexuality at an early age; that sexual transgression is exciting, etc.

                                                    In 1800, de Sade's books were burned. Two hundred years later, his pioneering ideas have realized. It will come to no surprise to the members of this forum the censorship of de Sade's books in France was broken a few years after 1945.

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                                                    --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "rouesolaire" <rouesolaire@...> wrote:
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    > My English isn't very accurate but I guess some practice is going to give me the opportunity to improve it. I am going to do my best to be as clear as possible, avoiding English mistakes as I can.
                                                    > I think the best thing to do is to illustrate what I have explained in my previous posts by some concise examples taken among hundreds existing.
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    > - Corruption
                                                    > In Aryan societies there were always noble men like Cato the Elder (who should be a model for us) to efficiently fight corruption whatever form it took. In one hand, we can even say that there never was organized crime in Aryan societies but at worst some isolated criminals and small bandits band which were often quickly eradicated. In the other hand, it's the entire contrary in Asian "societies" where corruption is endemic and where criminal organizations are implanted for a while. It's why the desaryanization of Europe, which corresponded to its Asianization among others, has seen the emergence of corruption and organized crime.
                                                    > To prove what I say, which are the most powerful criminal organizations in the world, except Central and South America? The Jewish, "Italian" (which is Semitic), Albanian, Chechen, Japanese and Chinese ones. They are all composed of Jews, Semites and Asians, so of Orientals.
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    > - Different types of political systems
                                                    > In Roman Empire (even the "Semitic" one) if the emperor was "bad" (harmed his people and the interest of the Empire) his destiny was fixed quickly: the death (often by the hands of the Praetorian Guard). In Semitic territories tyrants could do whatever they want without being disturbed. It's one of the hundreds deep oppositions between Aryan society and Oriental/Semitic despotates. In Semitic ones there isn't justice.
                                                    > While we're at is we can mention two Semitic "Roman" emperors: Caracalla and Elagabalus (1) .
                                                    > The first gave, through the "edict of Caracalla", the citizenship to all freemen throughout the Roman Empire. The second is well known for having been subjected to women and even indirectly giving them political power.
                                                    > So, it was nothing else - from these two emperors - but a step towards egalitarianism, modern democracy and feminization of the Indo-Europeans societies.
                                                    > In the bottom despotism (tyranny of an untouchable and often illegitimate despot who can act against the interest of his own people), democracy (tyranny of the mass against the elite) and theocracy (which is in fact a masked form of despotism) are just some forms of elite crushing, they only use different ways to perform it, while dictatorship and aristocracy are the government of the elite.
                                                    > We can also speak about - from an Aryan viewpoint – the Asian oligarchy which is composed of scientists, academicians, scholars, economists and merchants and opposed to Aryan aristocracy which is typically composed of blood nobility, warlords and men of great (strength of) character.
                                                    > We can say that actual Europe is democratic on the form and oligarchic on the bottom, so Semitic on the form and Asian in the bottom. Modern democracy is a deleterious illusion that allows oligarchs - who have Jewish (who are mongrels of all races), Negroid, Semitic, Asian and non-Aryan blood and want to exterminate "Whites" and most of all the latest Aryans - to circumvent the Europeans.
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    > - Modern democracy
                                                    > I previously said that theocracy was masked despotism but in fact this must be qualified because modern democracy is more or less theocratic inspiration and isn't a despotic system. The Semite Girolamo Savonarola introduced in Florence a theological-democratic system.
                                                    > Everyone knows that Europeans have always been reluctant to theocracy. The feminine pseudo-principles worn by christianism, which has the form of a religion but is in reality from an Aryan viewpoint an anti-Aryan revolutionary ideology, could only be adopted by them - after centuries of Jewish propaganda and other forms of psychological warfare, directly inspired by the teachings of the Chinese Sun Tzu, aimed at destroying Europeans mentally and effeminate them - by making the form acceptable, in secularizing Christianism by changing his shape. The old shape was "religious" (in the Semitic significance of the term), the new one will have the shape of a secular legislation. This is the case, to take the best known example, of the declaration of human rights.
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    > - War
                                                    > The very feminine psychological war which was totally unknown in the ancient Aryan world but very developed in the writings of Sun Tzu is nowadays present everywhere in West. In addition, applied oriental science has made war totally different from what it once was and has facilitated the entry of women in the military.
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    > - Medicine
                                                    > The Semitic modern medicine has for main goal to make people who are healthy sick and to maintain people who are sick in life; it's the best way to do business. Moreover I absolutely don't believe in the alleged improvements of living conditions and "life expectancy" claimed by liar media and scientists. Firstly it's known that in ancient times Aryans Europeans were generally in better health than today populace and that some famous ones lived over 90 years. For example Polybius died at age 82 of a riding accident. Nowadays how many Europeans over 70 years don't take medical treatment or are in good health (physically and mentally)? Very little. How many 82 years old Europeans could ride a horse for hours?
                                                    > In addition, modern medicine has made the mass comfort abortion possible, which has prevented the birth of tens of millions of White babies, while this medicine allows anti-natural in-vitro fertilization and artificial insemination and some kinds of dysgenism.
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    > - Economy
                                                    > Firstly, the modern, oriental meaning of the economy isn't the same as that defined in the Indo-Europeans societies. Anyone who wants to know what economy means in the Indo-European viewpoint can read "Economics" of Xenophon or pseudo-Aristotle.
                                                    > Eastern "societies" have the peculiarity that - because of their natural bargaining – economy prevails within them. That wasn't the case in Aryan societies and economy has progressively become an obsession as Europe physically and mentally orientalized herself. The fact is that everything is nowadays considered as a business in West.
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    > - Linearity and cyclicality of "history"
                                                    > Today almost everyone believes in the linear view of history. The Semitic conception of "history" is linear; it has a beginning, an end and evolves in a certain direction (has a tropism). The most representative cases are the Abrahamic "religions" with their "World creation" and their "end of the World". This is the contrary of the Aryan conception of "history" which is cyclic.
                                                    > Moreover the most recent form of ideology promoting historical linearity is that of Jew Marx who had Asian and Semitic blood. He theorized the historical materialism which states that the history of "humanity" is shaped by the relationship between social classes.
                                                    > According to this theory, in prehistory all men lived in a paradisiacal communist community. -> The paradise of Adam and Eve.
                                                    > History begins with technical progress which is considered as the factor which has made the enslavement of man possible to landlords -> The original sin that marks the beginning of the enslavement of man to the (d)evil and his fall to earth.
                                                    > Finally, we jump ahead to the last step. All social classes disappear and the international communist community is being established forever-> This is heaven on Earth of Jehovah's Witnesses where "there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."
                                                    > It's the opposite of the Aryan conception of history where society is founded (often) during the Golden Age.
                                                    > After the beginning of this Age there is a foundation war between the third caste and the alliance of the second and first castes. After long battles there are no vanquishers so the three castes decide to unite to found the Aryan society. Then there is no friction or problems between the three castes until the beginning of the Kali Yuga which will see the gradual destruction of the Aryan society.
                                                    > In conclusion I can add that creationism and evolutionism, which are straight from the Semitic mind, are not opposites but the two sides of the same coin, as I have explained in prior posts.
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    > - The emphasis on aesthetics
                                                    > There is no need to develop this part but just to point out that today aesthetics prevails in the West, what is materialistic, superficial and which is a sign of feminization of the society.
                                                    > In this regard I have been stroked by the movie "american psycho" whose main protagonist is the Jewish trader "Bateman", because he is an illustration of the feminine, superficial, parasitic, neurotic, psychotic, destructive and autodestructive model which is becoming the new reality of the Western man.
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    > - Talking shop
                                                    > In our modern West society talking shop prevails.
                                                    > A delirious example of this kind of feminization is that in big enterprises (the big ones are those which are the most feminized) there are more and more people hired to "solve" problems and conflicts between employees. So, when you have a problem with someone you will see the "mediator" rather than the first person. This is completely delirious and a sign of the emergence of the effeminate "elusive man" which is the result of the "democratic" West we live in. A good example of this "elusive man" is the one pointed by Hitler in his critique of parliamentarianism in "Mein Kampf".
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    > - Animals
                                                    > Aryans didn't hate animals because they lived in harmony with nature and in communion with the universe. It's not the case of Orientals who like to make them suffered; convincing examples are Halal and Kosher slaughters and the fact that in Asia millions of animals are tortured (to death) each year. It's interesting to note that sadism (and masochism) are (destructive and autodestructive) feminine impulses; so it's not surprising to find them in Orientals because they have a feminine soul. About sadism you can read about the different treatment of slaves in the Indo-European and the Semitic worlds.
                                                    > Now let's talk about the fish. It's known that fish were despised by Aryans (so much that they didn't eat them even when they were in areas full of them) unlike Asians who appreciate them a lot. A crucial point is that fish is a sacred animal and a major symbol of christianity. This example shows that Christianization has not only been a Semitization but also an Asianization.
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    > - Sexuality
                                                    > Nowadays sexuality is considered only as a way of reproduction or in a hedonistic way. Sexuality is therefore devoid of any higher principle.
                                                    > Consider sexuality only as a way of reproduction (like in abrahamic "religions") is characteristic of eastern matriarchies in which women are considered as goddesses because they can give birth. Consider sexuality only in a hedonistic way indicates the presence of a negroid soul.
                                                    > About the reproductive side even the reproduction itself is devoid of any principle because for non-Aryans, children are only seen in an utilitarian way whereas for Aryans, children are the blood of their blood, the perpetuation of their race. This lowering is reflected in the West especially among the bourgeoisie for whom having children is a social convention, which corresponds to an Asianization.
                                                    > About the hedonist side, which was made possible mainly through Jewish pornography, we can say that it has fed into the mind of westerns a false caricature negroid image of what manhood is, which is in total opposition to what it was in the Aryan world. Moreover the hedonization of the sexuality through pornography and internet causes progressive loss of real sex. There are two reasons behind the fact that people speak more and more about sex outside their private life. The first is that loss of real sex, the second is the infantilization and negrification which causes the loss of decency (indeed as an element of private life sexuality has to be kept in privacy and not discussed outside, if not it's a violation of intimacy). In addition pornography is mainly a way of perversion of sexuality and relations to sexuality. Whites who have no regular sex will sink into a porn addiction that will over the long term make them impotent. It also transforms a natural and healthy sexuality, which is a need, in an unhealthy and against nature sexuality, which is a desire.
                                                    > Eastern "societies" (especially Semitic ones) are known to be very sensual. Nowadays in the West it's clear that there is a latent perverse form of sexuality, propagated by advertisements and media (for example) which can only lead to frustration.
                                                    > Finally, it's wise to note that the only one society in which there was no prostitution was the Aryan Polis Sparta. Indeed Sparta was autarkic and closed to outside influences until its decline and has, as a consequence, succeed in canalizing its people, rise it spiritually and confer it a soul nobility. It's the opposite of the former Eastern "societies" where sacred prostitution was practiced. Nowadays prostitution in all its forms is widespread so much in the West than it can only be the sign of an orientalization.
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    > (1) If you want more information about them you can, for example, check their wikipedia article.
                                                    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracalla
                                                    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliogabale
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    > P.S.
                                                    > We must ensure the survival and regeneration of our holy and sacred Aryan race, which unfortunately has been largely mixed. This is the most important of our duties.
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    > -------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                    >
                                                    > "This article http://boulderjewishnews.org/2009/an-informal-list-of-jewish-inventions-innovations-and-radical-ideas (mentioned in one of your messages) drew my attention.
                                                    > What then is modernity, if not 'the death of cultures' by erecting a virtual
                                                    > reality where otherwise things would be within reach - be it music performances,
                                                    > public art and monumental sculptures etc. etc."
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    > What will happen when – at short or medium term - the "Whites" living in cities won't have – following the huge monetary, financial and economic crash which will finally happen one day or another - water, food, electricity, fuels and police or weapons to protect them? They won't last one week. But as long as their fictive mental universe is standing they think everything is OK.
                                                    >
                                                    > During and after the destruction of the Aryan spirit and soul the Semites have gradually infected Aryans with a virtual mental universe to better manipulate and exterminate them; This is what has and is happening. The vast majority of "Whites" people don't live in reality but in this fictive mental universe.
                                                    >
                                                  • rouesolaire
                                                    Our enemies - the great master[s] of lies , customary of adversarial inversions, made a movie called Salò o le 120 giornate di Sodoma based on the novel of
                                                    Message 25 of 28 , Jun 15, 2013
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                                                      Our enemies - "the great master[s] of lies", customary of adversarial inversions, made a movie called "Salò o le 120 giornate di Sodoma" based on the novel of the Marquis de Sade.
                                                      Most of the work of destruction that you highlight comes from the United States of Israel and, as pointed out at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evola_as_he_is/message/1734 , spreads all around the world - especially in Europe - via the (mass) media and "education". The harmful effects of the (mass) media, about subjects that you tackle, are often (closely) linked to the negroid music and sub"culture". William Pierce had noticed that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNAsCBTIyac .
                                                      For its part "education", in the West, begins to impose more and more the "gender theory" and the like, more and more early. Those who are interested can take a look at what unesco is preparing for the western "education" system: http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/082509_unesco.pdf . The program of unesco about learning "masturbation" to childen as young as 5 is certainly closely related to the hidden desire of bringing children into contact with pornography - which is more and more easily accessible - as young as possible. This hidden desire finds its explanation here: http://www.davidduke.com/?p=1811 - http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/09/pornographys-effect-on-the-brain-part-1/ - http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/09/pornographys-effect-on-the-brain-part-2/ .
                                                      Concerning the "gender theory", American Jewish lesbians are its main vector of propagation (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xrjif9_la-theorie-du-genre-enfin-expliquee_tech#.Ubu79Er4bcs). At http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2315193/Swedish-school-brings-gender-neutral-changing-rooms-avoid-teenagers-labelled-male-female.html we learn that "A school in a liberal Swedish suburb is to open a gender-neutral changing room in an effort to discourage gender stereotypes and promote gay rights." , " The school's student council were the first to march in Stockholm's Gay Pride parade last year and they have encouraged teachers to use gender neutral pronouns when referring to pupils." and "Nearly all the children's books at Egalia deal with homosexual couples, single parents or adopted children. There are no 'Snow White,' 'Cinderella' or other fairy tales. Director Lotta Rajalin said in 2011 that Egalia places a special emphasis on fostering an environment tolerant of gay, lesbian, bisexual and trans-gender people."
                                                      Of course, behind these "gender-neutral" stories, there is not the will to impose a truly "gender-neutral" society, but the hidden will to feminize as far as possible the White (children) in what would be the last step in the feminization of the White man. In last analysis, the gender theory is only the application of a well-known passage from the New Testament ("There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.": http://biblehub.com/galatians/3-28.htm) and so another Judeo-Christian byproduct.
                                                      From its side, "La vilaine lulu", a cartoon drawn by the homosexual Yves Saint Laurent, tells us a little about the underworld of the pseudo-"elite": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4DSg5HzEUk (note that this video is regularly removed from video streaming websites under the pretext of copyright infringement.) Yves Saint Laurent was the boyfriend of the homosexual billionaire Semit Pierre Bergé, the leader of the LGBT community in France, who funds this community. He recently stated that surrogate mother is a job like any other.
                                                      Finally, a picture is sometimes worth a thousand words: https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/184484_658023084211781_1275728804_n.png

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                                                      --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "tlefranc10" <tlefranc10@...> wrote:
                                                      >
                                                      > Regarding the topic of sexuality, but also other topics such as the lack of morality and delicacy and bad conduct, I found particularly interesting, and revealing of the roots of today's society, a comment made by a psychiatric in a radio talk about de Sade. He said the infamous characters de Sade portrayed in his novels, beyond their obvious perverse and sadistic tendencies, had a speech very close to that of today's "establishment" and media. These characters advocated the breaking of many moral rules; that marriage was slavery; that kindness and restraint were imposed by society; that pleasure should come first; that children should be taught sexuality at an early age; that sexual transgression is exciting, etc.
                                                      >
                                                      > In 1800, de Sade's books were burned. Two hundred years later, his pioneering ideas have realized. It will come to no surprise to the members of this forum the censorship of de Sade's books in France was broken a few years after 1945.
                                                      >
                                                      > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "rouesolaire" <rouesolaire@> wrote:
                                                      > >
                                                      > >
                                                      > >
                                                      > > My English isn't very accurate but I guess some practice is going to give me the opportunity to improve it. I am going to do my best to be as clear as possible, avoiding English mistakes as I can.
                                                      > > I think the best thing to do is to illustrate what I have explained in my previous posts by some concise examples taken among hundreds existing.
                                                      > >
                                                      > >
                                                      > >
                                                      > > - Corruption
                                                      > > In Aryan societies there were always noble men like Cato the Elder (who should be a model for us) to efficiently fight corruption whatever form it took. In one hand, we can even say that there never was organized crime in Aryan societies but at worst some isolated criminals and small bandits band which were often quickly eradicated. In the other hand, it's the entire contrary in Asian "societies" where corruption is endemic and where criminal organizations are implanted for a while. It's why the desaryanization of Europe, which corresponded to its Asianization among others, has seen the emergence of corruption and organized crime.
                                                      > > To prove what I say, which are the most powerful criminal organizations in the world, except Central and South America? The Jewish, "Italian" (which is Semitic), Albanian, Chechen, Japanese and Chinese ones. They are all composed of Jews, Semites and Asians, so of Orientals.
                                                      > >
                                                      > >
                                                      > > - Different types of political systems
                                                      > > In Roman Empire (even the "Semitic" one) if the emperor was "bad" (harmed his people and the interest of the Empire) his destiny was fixed quickly: the death (often by the hands of the Praetorian Guard). In Semitic territories tyrants could do whatever they want without being disturbed. It's one of the hundreds deep oppositions between Aryan society and Oriental/Semitic despotates. In Semitic ones there isn't justice.
                                                      > > While we're at is we can mention two Semitic "Roman" emperors: Caracalla and Elagabalus (1) .
                                                      > > The first gave, through the "edict of Caracalla", the citizenship to all freemen throughout the Roman Empire. The second is well known for having been subjected to women and even indirectly giving them political power.
                                                      > > So, it was nothing else - from these two emperors - but a step towards egalitarianism, modern democracy and feminization of the Indo-Europeans societies.
                                                      > > In the bottom despotism (tyranny of an untouchable and often illegitimate despot who can act against the interest of his own people), democracy (tyranny of the mass against the elite) and theocracy (which is in fact a masked form of despotism) are just some forms of elite crushing, they only use different ways to perform it, while dictatorship and aristocracy are the government of the elite.
                                                      > > We can also speak about - from an Aryan viewpoint – the Asian oligarchy which is composed of scientists, academicians, scholars, economists and merchants and opposed to Aryan aristocracy which is typically composed of blood nobility, warlords and men of great (strength of) character.
                                                      > > We can say that actual Europe is democratic on the form and oligarchic on the bottom, so Semitic on the form and Asian in the bottom. Modern democracy is a deleterious illusion that allows oligarchs - who have Jewish (who are mongrels of all races), Negroid, Semitic, Asian and non-Aryan blood and want to exterminate "Whites" and most of all the latest Aryans - to circumvent the Europeans.
                                                      > >
                                                      > >
                                                      > > - Modern democracy
                                                      > > I previously said that theocracy was masked despotism but in fact this must be qualified because modern democracy is more or less theocratic inspiration and isn't a despotic system. The Semite Girolamo Savonarola introduced in Florence a theological-democratic system.
                                                      > > Everyone knows that Europeans have always been reluctant to theocracy. The feminine pseudo-principles worn by christianism, which has the form of a religion but is in reality from an Aryan viewpoint an anti-Aryan revolutionary ideology, could only be adopted by them - after centuries of Jewish propaganda and other forms of psychological warfare, directly inspired by the teachings of the Chinese Sun Tzu, aimed at destroying Europeans mentally and effeminate them - by making the form acceptable, in secularizing Christianism by changing his shape. The old shape was "religious" (in the Semitic significance of the term), the new one will have the shape of a secular legislation. This is the case, to take the best known example, of the declaration of human rights.
                                                      > >
                                                      > >
                                                      > > - War
                                                      > > The very feminine psychological war which was totally unknown in the ancient Aryan world but very developed in the writings of Sun Tzu is nowadays present everywhere in West. In addition, applied oriental science has made war totally different from what it once was and has facilitated the entry of women in the military.
                                                      > >
                                                      > >
                                                      > > - Medicine
                                                      > > The Semitic modern medicine has for main goal to make people who are healthy sick and to maintain people who are sick in life; it's the best way to do business. Moreover I absolutely don't believe in the alleged improvements of living conditions and "life expectancy" claimed by liar media and scientists. Firstly it's known that in ancient times Aryans Europeans were generally in better health than today populace and that some famous ones lived over 90 years. For example Polybius died at age 82 of a riding accident. Nowadays how many Europeans over 70 years don't take medical treatment or are in good health (physically and mentally)? Very little. How many 82 years old Europeans could ride a horse for hours?
                                                      > > In addition, modern medicine has made the mass comfort abortion possible, which has prevented the birth of tens of millions of White babies, while this medicine allows anti-natural in-vitro fertilization and artificial insemination and some kinds of dysgenism.
                                                      > >
                                                      > >
                                                      > > - Economy
                                                      > > Firstly, the modern, oriental meaning of the economy isn't the same as that defined in the Indo-Europeans societies. Anyone who wants to know what economy means in the Indo-European viewpoint can read "Economics" of Xenophon or pseudo-Aristotle.
                                                      > > Eastern "societies" have the peculiarity that - because of their natural bargaining – economy prevails within them. That wasn't the case in Aryan societies and economy has progressively become an obsession as Europe physically and mentally orientalized herself. The fact is that everything is nowadays considered as a business in West.
                                                      > >
                                                      > >
                                                      > > - Linearity and cyclicality of "history"
                                                      > > Today almost everyone believes in the linear view of history. The Semitic conception of "history" is linear; it has a beginning, an end and evolves in a certain direction (has a tropism). The most representative cases are the Abrahamic "religions" with their "World creation" and their "end of the World". This is the contrary of the Aryan conception of "history" which is cyclic.
                                                      > > Moreover the most recent form of ideology promoting historical linearity is that of Jew Marx who had Asian and Semitic blood. He theorized the historical materialism which states that the history of "humanity" is shaped by the relationship between social classes.
                                                      > > According to this theory, in prehistory all men lived in a paradisiacal communist community. -> The paradise of Adam and Eve.
                                                      > > History begins with technical progress which is considered as the factor which has made the enslavement of man possible to landlords -> The original sin that marks the beginning of the enslavement of man to the (d)evil and his fall to earth.
                                                      > > Finally, we jump ahead to the last step. All social classes disappear and the international communist community is being established forever-> This is heaven on Earth of Jehovah's Witnesses where "there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."
                                                      > > It's the opposite of the Aryan conception of history where society is founded (often) during the Golden Age.
                                                      > > After the beginning of this Age there is a foundation war between the third caste and the alliance of the second and first castes. After long battles there are no vanquishers so the three castes decide to unite to found the Aryan society. Then there is no friction or problems between the three castes until the beginning of the Kali Yuga which will see the gradual destruction of the Aryan society.
                                                      > > In conclusion I can add that creationism and evolutionism, which are straight from the Semitic mind, are not opposites but the two sides of the same coin, as I have explained in prior posts.
                                                      > >
                                                      > >
                                                      > > - The emphasis on aesthetics
                                                      > > There is no need to develop this part but just to point out that today aesthetics prevails in the West, what is materialistic, superficial and which is a sign of feminization of the society.
                                                      > > In this regard I have been stroked by the movie "american psycho" whose main protagonist is the Jewish trader "Bateman", because he is an illustration of the feminine, superficial, parasitic, neurotic, psychotic, destructive and autodestructive model which is becoming the new reality of the Western man.
                                                      > >
                                                      > >
                                                      > > - Talking shop
                                                      > > In our modern West society talking shop prevails.
                                                      > > A delirious example of this kind of feminization is that in big enterprises (the big ones are those which are the most feminized) there are more and more people hired to "solve" problems and conflicts between employees. So, when you have a problem with someone you will see the "mediator" rather than the first person. This is completely delirious and a sign of the emergence of the effeminate "elusive man" which is the result of the "democratic" West we live in. A good example of this "elusive man" is the one pointed by Hitler in his critique of parliamentarianism in "Mein Kampf".
                                                      > >
                                                      > >
                                                      > > - Animals
                                                      > > Aryans didn't hate animals because they lived in harmony with nature and in communion with the universe. It's not the case of Orientals who like to make them suffered; convincing examples are Halal and Kosher slaughters and the fact that in Asia millions of animals are tortured (to death) each year. It's interesting to note that sadism (and masochism) are (destructive and autodestructive) feminine impulses; so it's not surprising to find them in Orientals because they have a feminine soul. About sadism you can read about the different treatment of slaves in the Indo-European and the Semitic worlds.
                                                      > > Now let's talk about the fish. It's known that fish were despised by Aryans (so much that they didn't eat them even when they were in areas full of them) unlike Asians who appreciate them a lot. A crucial point is that fish is a sacred animal and a major symbol of christianity. This example shows that Christianization has not only been a Semitization but also an Asianization.
                                                      > >
                                                      > >
                                                      > > - Sexuality
                                                      > > Nowadays sexuality is considered only as a way of reproduction or in a hedonistic way. Sexuality is therefore devoid of any higher principle.
                                                      > > Consider sexuality only as a way of reproduction (like in abrahamic "religions") is characteristic of eastern matriarchies in which women are considered as goddesses because they can give birth. Consider sexuality only in a hedonistic way indicates the presence of a negroid soul.
                                                      > > About the reproductive side even the reproduction itself is devoid of any principle because for non-Aryans, children are only seen in an utilitarian way whereas for Aryans, children are the blood of their blood, the perpetuation of their race. This lowering is reflected in the West especially among the bourgeoisie for whom having children is a social convention, which corresponds to an Asianization.
                                                      > > About the hedonist side, which was made possible mainly through Jewish pornography, we can say that it has fed into the mind of westerns a false caricature negroid image of what manhood is, which is in total opposition to what it was in the Aryan world. Moreover the hedonization of the sexuality through pornography and internet causes progressive loss of real sex. There are two reasons behind the fact that people speak more and more about sex outside their private life. The first is that loss of real sex, the second is the infantilization and negrification which causes the loss of decency (indeed as an element of private life sexuality has to be kept in privacy and not discussed outside, if not it's a violation of intimacy). In addition pornography is mainly a way of perversion of sexuality and relations to sexuality. Whites who have no regular sex will sink into a porn addiction that will over the long term make them impotent. It also transforms a natural and healthy sexuality, which is a need, in an unhealthy and against nature sexuality, which is a desire.
                                                      > > Eastern "societies" (especially Semitic ones) are known to be very sensual. Nowadays in the West it's clear that there is a latent perverse form of sexuality, propagated by advertisements and media (for example) which can only lead to frustration.
                                                      > > Finally, it's wise to note that the only one society in which there was no prostitution was the Aryan Polis Sparta. Indeed Sparta was autarkic and closed to outside influences until its decline and has, as a consequence, succeed in canalizing its people, rise it spiritually and confer it a soul nobility. It's the opposite of the former Eastern "societies" where sacred prostitution was practiced. Nowadays prostitution in all its forms is widespread so much in the West than it can only be the sign of an orientalization.
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                                                      > > (1) If you want more information about them you can, for example, check their wikipedia article.
                                                      > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracalla
                                                      > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliogabale
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                                                      > > P.S.
                                                      > > We must ensure the survival and regeneration of our holy and sacred Aryan race, which unfortunately has been largely mixed. This is the most important of our duties.
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                                                      > > "This article http://boulderjewishnews.org/2009/an-informal-list-of-jewish-inventions-innovations-and-radical-ideas (mentioned in one of your messages) drew my attention.
                                                      > > What then is modernity, if not 'the death of cultures' by erecting a virtual
                                                      > > reality where otherwise things would be within reach - be it music performances,
                                                      > > public art and monumental sculptures etc. etc."
                                                      > >
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                                                      > > What will happen when – at short or medium term - the "Whites" living in cities won't have – following the huge monetary, financial and economic crash which will finally happen one day or another - water, food, electricity, fuels and police or weapons to protect them? They won't last one week. But as long as their fictive mental universe is standing they think everything is OK.
                                                      > >
                                                      > > During and after the destruction of the Aryan spirit and soul the Semites have gradually infected Aryans with a virtual mental universe to better manipulate and exterminate them; This is what has and is happening. The vast majority of "Whites" people don't live in reality but in this fictive mental universe.
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                                                      Krafft-Ebing s Psychopathia Sexualis popularized both the terms sadism and masochism. The latter being named after the Austrian writer Leopold von
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                                                        Krafft-Ebing's Psychopathia Sexualis popularized both the terms sadism and masochism. The latter being named after the Austrian writer Leopold von Sacher-Masoch.

                                                        "Sacher-Masoch edited the Leipzig-based monthly literary magazine Auf der Höhe. Internationale Review (At the Pinnacle. International Review), which was published from October, 1881 to September, 1885. This was a progressive magazine aimed at tolerance and integration for Jews in Saxony, as well as for the emancipation of women with articles on women's education and suffrage.
                                                        In his later years, he worked against local antisemitism through an association for adult education called the Oberhessischer Verein für Volksbildung (OVV), founded in 1893 with his second wife, Hulda Meister." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_von_Sacher-Masoch#Philosemitism_and_feminism)

                                                        "Biale posits that Sacher-Masoch’s Jewish tales contained three hidden agendas: that the eroticization of the women promoted “the emancipation of Jewish women,” that “to treat the Jews as subjects of eroticism means to treat them as normal human beings” and thereby promote Jews’ acceptance and emancipation as a whole. Biale also suggests that “given the nature of his erotic fantasies, it is possible that the only way he could express his philosemitism was by portraying the Jews – through their women – not as victims, but as powerful and victorious." (http://jewrotica.org/2013/02/masochisms-jewish-roots/2/)


                                                        To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
                                                        From: rouesolaire@...
                                                        Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 01:05:56 +0000
                                                        Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: A propos du rationalisme, du scientisme et de l'intelligence

                                                         
                                                        Our enemies - "the great master[s] of lies", customary of adversarial inversions, made a movie called "Salò o le 120 giornate di Sodoma" based on the novel of the Marquis de Sade.
                                                        Most of the work of destruction that you highlight comes from the United States of Israel and, as pointed out at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evola_as_he_is/message/1734 , spreads all around the world - especially in Europe - via the (mass) media and "education". The harmful effects of the (mass) media, about subjects that you tackle, are often (closely) linked to the negroid music and sub"culture". William Pierce had noticed that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNAsCBTIyac .
                                                        For its part "education", in the West, begins to impose more and more the "gender theory" and the like, more and more early. Those who are interested can take a look at what unesco is preparing for the western "education" system: http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/082509_unesco.pdf . The program of unesco about learning "masturbation" to childen as young as 5 is certainly closely related to the hidden desire of bringing children into contact with pornography - which is more and more easily accessible - as young as possible. This hidden desire finds its explanation here: http://www.davidduke.com/?p=1811 - http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/09/pornographys-effect-on-the-brain-part-1/ - http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/09/pornographys-effect-on-the-brain-part-2/ .
                                                        Concerning the "gender theory", American Jewish lesbians are its main vector of propagation (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xrjif9_la-theorie-du-genre-enfin-expliquee_tech#.Ubu79Er4bcs). At http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2315193/Swedish-school-brings-gender-neutral-changing-rooms-avoid-teenagers-labelled-male-female.html we learn that "A school in a liberal Swedish suburb is to open a gender-neutral changing room in an effort to discourage gender stereotypes and promote gay rights." , " The school's student council were the first to march in Stockholm's Gay Pride parade last year and they have encouraged teachers to use gender neutral pronouns when referring to pupils." and "Nearly all the children's books at Egalia deal with homosexual couples, single parents or adopted children. There are no 'Snow White,' 'Cinderella' or other fairy tales. Director Lotta Rajalin said in 2011 that Egalia places a special emphasis on fostering an environment tolerant of gay, lesbian, bisexual and trans-gender people."
                                                        Of course, behind these "gender-neutral" stories, there is not the will to impose a truly "gender-neutral" society, but the hidden will to feminize as far as possible the White (children) in what would be the last step in the feminization of the White man. In last analysis, the gender theory is only the application of a well-known passage from the New Testament ("There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.": http://biblehub.com/galatians/3-28.htm) and so another Judeo-Christian byproduct.
                                                        From its side, "La vilaine lulu", a cartoon drawn by the homosexual Yves Saint Laurent, tells us a little about the underworld of the pseudo-"elite": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4DSg5HzEUk (note that this video is regularly removed from video streaming websites under the pretext of copyright infringement.) Yves Saint Laurent was the boyfriend of the homosexual billionaire Semit Pierre Bergé, the leader of the LGBT community in France, who funds this community. He recently stated that surrogate mother is a job like any other.
                                                        Finally, a picture is sometimes worth a thousand words: https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/184484_658023084211781_1275728804_n.png

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                                                        --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "tlefranc10" <tlefranc10@...> wrote:
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                                                        > Regarding the topic of sexuality, but also other topics such as the lack of morality and delicacy and bad conduct, I found particularly interesting, and revealing of the roots of today's society, a comment made by a psychiatric in a radio talk about de Sade. He said the infamous characters de Sade portrayed in his novels, beyond their obvious perverse and sadistic tendencies, had a speech very close to that of today's "establishment" and media. These characters advocated the breaking of many moral rules; that marriage was slavery; that kindness and restraint were imposed by society; that pleasure should come first; that children should be taught sexuality at an early age; that sexual transgression is exciting, etc.
                                                        >
                                                        > In 1800, de Sade's books were burned. Two hundred years later, his pioneering ideas have realized. It will come to no surprise to the members of this forum the censorship of de Sade's books in France was broken a few years after 1945.
                                                        >
                                                        > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "rouesolaire" <rouesolaire@> wrote:
                                                        > >
                                                        > >
                                                        > >
                                                        > > My English isn't very accurate but I guess some practice is going to give me the opportunity to improve it. I am going to do my best to be as clear as possible, avoiding English mistakes as I can.
                                                        > > I think the best thing to do is to illustrate what I have explained in my previous posts by some concise examples taken among hundreds existing.
                                                        > >
                                                        > >
                                                        > >
                                                        > > - Corruption
                                                        > > In Aryan societies there were always noble men like Cato the Elder (who should be a model for us) to efficiently fight corruption whatever form it took. In one hand, we can even say that there never was organized crime in Aryan societies but at worst some isolated criminals and small bandits band which were often quickly eradicated. In the other hand, it's the entire contrary in Asian "societies" where corruption is endemic and where criminal organizations are implanted for a while. It's why the desaryanization of Europe, which corresponded to its Asianization among others, has seen the emergence of corruption and organized crime.
                                                        > > To prove what I say, which are the most powerful criminal organizations in the world, except Central and South America? The Jewish, "Italian" (which is Semitic), Albanian, Chechen, Japanese and Chinese ones. They are all composed of Jews, Semites and Asians, so of Orientals.
                                                        > >
                                                        > >
                                                        > > - Different types of political systems
                                                        > > In Roman Empire (even the "Semitic" one) if the emperor was "bad" (harmed his people and the interest of the Empire) his destiny was fixed quickly: the death (often by the hands of the Praetorian Guard). In Semitic territories tyrants could do whatever they want without being disturbed. It's one of the hundreds deep oppositions between Aryan society and Oriental/Semitic despotates. In Semitic ones there isn't justice.
                                                        > > While we're at is we can mention two Semitic "Roman" emperors: Caracalla and Elagabalus (1) .
                                                        > > The first gave, through the "edict of Caracalla", the citizenship to all freemen throughout the Roman Empire. The second is well known for having been subjected to women and even indirectly giving them political power.
                                                        > > So, it was nothing else - from these two emperors - but a step towards egalitarianism, modern democracy and feminization of the Indo-Europeans societies.
                                                        > > In the bottom despotism (tyranny of an untouchable and often illegitimate despot who can act against the interest of his own people), democracy (tyranny of the mass against the elite) and theocracy (which is in fact a masked form of despotism) are just some forms of elite crushing, they only use different ways to perform it, while dictatorship and aristocracy are the government of the elite.
                                                        > > We can also speak about - from an Aryan viewpoint – the Asian oligarchy which is composed of scientists, academicians, scholars, economists and merchants and opposed to Aryan aristocracy which is typically composed of blood nobility, warlords and men of great (strength of) character.
                                                        > > We can say that actual Europe is democratic on the form and oligarchic on the bottom, so Semitic on the form and Asian in the bottom. Modern democracy is a deleterious illusion that allows oligarchs - who have Jewish (who are mongrels of all races), Negroid, Semitic, Asian and non-Aryan blood and want to exterminate "Whites" and most of all the latest Aryans - to circumvent the Europeans.
                                                        > >
                                                        > >
                                                        > > - Modern democracy
                                                        > > I previously said that theocracy was masked despotism but in fact this must be qualified because modern democracy is more or less theocratic inspiration and isn't a despotic system. The Semite Girolamo Savonarola introduced in Florence a theological-democratic system.
                                                        > > Everyone knows that Europeans have always been reluctant to theocracy. The feminine pseudo-principles worn by christianism, which has the form of a religion but is in reality from an Aryan viewpoint an anti-Aryan revolutionary ideology, could only be adopted by them - after centuries of Jewish propaganda and other forms of psychological warfare, directly inspired by the teachings of the Chinese Sun Tzu, aimed at destroying Europeans mentally and effeminate them - by making the form acceptable, in secularizing Christianism by changing his shape. The old shape was "religious" (in the Semitic significance of the term), the new one will have the shape of a secular legislation. This is the case, to take the best known example, of the declaration of human rights.
                                                        > >
                                                        > >
                                                        > > - War
                                                        > > The very feminine psychological war which was totally unknown in the ancient Aryan world but very developed in the writings of Sun Tzu is nowadays present everywhere in West. In addition, applied oriental science has made war totally different from what it once was and has facilitated the entry of women in the military.
                                                        > >
                                                        > >
                                                        > > - Medicine
                                                        > > The Semitic modern medicine has for main goal to make people who are healthy sick and to maintain people who are sick in life; it's the best way to do business. Moreover I absolutely don't believe in the alleged improvements of living conditions and "life expectancy" claimed by liar media and scientists. Firstly it's known that in ancient times Aryans Europeans were generally in better health than today populace and that some famous ones lived over 90 years. For example Polybius died at age 82 of a riding accident. Nowadays how many Europeans over 70 years don't take medical treatment or are in good health (physically and mentally)? Very little. How many 82 years old Europeans could ride a horse for hours?
                                                        > > In addition, modern medicine has made the mass comfort abortion possible, which has prevented the birth of tens of millions of White babies, while this medicine allows anti-natural in-vitro fertilization and artificial insemination and some kinds of dysgenism.
                                                        > >
                                                        > >
                                                        > > - Economy
                                                        > > Firstly, the modern, oriental meaning of the economy isn't the same as that defined in the Indo-Europeans societies. Anyone who wants to know what economy means in the Indo-European viewpoint can read "Economics" of Xenophon or pseudo-Aristotle.
                                                        > > Eastern "societies" have the peculiarity that - because of their natural bargaining – economy prevails within them. That wasn't the case in Aryan societies and economy has progressively become an obsession as Europe physically and mentally orientalized herself. The fact is that everything is nowadays considered as a business in West.
                                                        > >
                                                        > >
                                                        > > - Linearity and cyclicality of "history"
                                                        > > Today almost everyone believes in the linear view of history. The Semitic conception of "history" is linear; it has a beginning, an end and evolves in a certain direction (has a tropism). The most representative cases are the Abrahamic "religions" with their "World creation" and their "end of the World". This is the contrary of the Aryan conception of "history" which is cyclic.
                                                        > > Moreover the most recent form of ideology promoting historical linearity is that of Jew Marx who had Asian and Semitic blood. He theorized the historical materialism which states that the history of "humanity" is shaped by the relationship between social classes.
                                                        > > According to this theory, in prehistory all men lived in a paradisiacal communist community. -> The paradise of Adam and Eve.
                                                        > > History begins with technical progress which is considered as the factor which has made the enslavement of man possible to landlords -> The original sin that marks the beginning of the enslavement of man to the (d)evil and his fall to earth.
                                                        > > Finally, we jump ahead to the last step. All social classes disappear and the international communist community is being established forever-> This is heaven on Earth of Jehovah's Witnesses where "there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."
                                                        > > It's the opposite of the Aryan conception of history where society is founded (often) during the Golden Age.
                                                        > > After the beginning of this Age there is a foundation war between the third caste and the alliance of the second and first castes. After long battles there are no vanquishers so the three castes decide to unite to found the Aryan society. Then there is no friction or problems between the three castes until the beginning of the Kali Yuga which will see the gradual destruction of the Aryan society.
                                                        > > In conclusion I can add that creationism and evolutionism, which are straight from the Semitic mind, are not opposites but the two sides of the same coin, as I have explained in prior posts.
                                                        > >
                                                        > >
                                                        > > - The emphasis on aesthetics
                                                        > > There is no need to develop this part but just to point out that today aesthetics prevails in the West, what is materialistic, superficial and which is a sign of feminization of the society.
                                                        > > In this regard I have been stroked by the movie "american psycho" whose main protagonist is the Jewish trader "Bateman", because he is an illustration of the feminine, superficial, parasitic, neurotic, psychotic, destructive and autodestructive model which is becoming the new reality of the Western man.
                                                        > >
                                                        > >
                                                        > > - Talking shop
                                                        > > In our modern West society talking shop prevails.
                                                        > > A delirious example of this kind of feminization is that in big enterprises (the big ones are those which are the most feminized) there are more and more people hired to "solve" problems and conflicts between employees. So, when you have a problem with someone you will see the "mediator" rather than the first person. This is completely delirious and a sign of the emergence of the effeminate "elusive man" which is the result of the "democratic" West we live in. A good example of this "elusive man" is the one pointed by Hitler in his critique of parliamentarianism in "Mein Kampf".
                                                        > >
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                                                        > > - Animals
                                                        > > Aryans didn't hate animals because they lived in harmony with nature and in communion with the universe. It's not the case of Orientals who like to make them suffered; convincing examples are Halal and Kosher slaughters and the fact that in Asia millions of animals are tortured (to death) each year. It's interesting to note that sadism (and masochism) are (destructive and autodestructive) feminine impulses; so it's not surprising to find them in Orientals because they have a feminine soul. About sadism you can read about the different treatment of slaves in the Indo-European and the Semitic worlds.
                                                        > > Now let's talk about the fish. It's known that fish were despised by Aryans (so much that they didn't eat them even when they were in areas full of them) unlike Asians who appreciate them a lot. A crucial point is that fish is a sacred animal and a major symbol of christianity. This example shows that Christianization has not only been a Semitization but also an Asianization.
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                                                        > > - Sexuality
                                                        > > Nowadays sexuality is considered only as a way of reproduction or in a hedonistic way. Sexuality is therefore devoid of any higher principle.
                                                        > > Consider sexuality only as a way of reproduction (like in abrahamic "religions") is characteristic of eastern matriarchies in which women are considered as goddesses because they can give birth. Consider sexuality only in a hedonistic way indicates the presence of a negroid soul.
                                                        > > About the reproductive side even the reproduction itself is devoid of any principle because for non-Aryans, children are only seen in an utilitarian way whereas for Aryans, children are the blood of their blood, the perpetuation of their race. This lowering is reflected in the West especially among the bourgeoisie for whom having children is a social convention, which corresponds to an Asianization.
                                                        > > About the hedonist side, which was made possible mainly through Jewish pornography, we can say that it has fed into the mind of westerns a false caricature negroid image of what manhood is, which is in total opposition to what it was in the Aryan world. Moreover the hedonization of the sexuality through pornography and internet causes progressive loss of real sex. There are two reasons behind the fact that people speak more and more about sex outside their private life. The first is that loss of real sex, the second is the infantilization and negrification which causes the loss of decency (indeed as an element of private life sexuality has to be kept in privacy and not discussed outside, if not it's a violation of intimacy). In addition pornography is mainly a way of perversion of sexuality and relations to sexuality. Whites who have no regular sex will sink into a porn addiction that will over the long term make them impotent. It also transforms a natural and healthy sexuality, which is a need, in an unhealthy and against nature sexuality, which is a desire.
                                                        > > Eastern "societies" (especially Semitic ones) are known to be very sensual. Nowadays in the West it's clear that there is a latent perverse form of sexuality, propagated by advertisements and media (for example) which can only lead to frustration.
                                                        > > Finally, it's wise to note that the only one society in which there was no prostitution was the Aryan Polis Sparta. Indeed Sparta was autarkic and closed to outside influences until its decline and has, as a consequence, succeed in canalizing its people, rise it spiritually and confer it a soul nobility. It's the opposite of the former Eastern "societies" where sacred prostitution was practiced. Nowadays prostitution in all its forms is widespread so much in the West than it can only be the sign of an orientalization.
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                                                        > > (1) If you want more information about them you can, for example, check their wikipedia article.
                                                        > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracalla
                                                        > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliogabale
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                                                        > > P.S.
                                                        > > We must ensure the survival and regeneration of our holy and sacred Aryan race, which unfortunately has been largely mixed. This is the most important of our duties.
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                                                        > > "This article http://boulderjewishnews.org/2009/an-informal-list-of-jewish-inventions-innovations-and-radical-ideas (mentioned in one of your messages) drew my attention.
                                                        > > What then is modernity, if not 'the death of cultures' by erecting a virtual
                                                        > > reality where otherwise things would be within reach - be it music performances,
                                                        > > public art and monumental sculptures etc. etc."
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                                                        > > What will happen when – at short or medium term - the "Whites" living in cities won't have – following the huge monetary, financial and economic crash which will finally happen one day or another - water, food, electricity, fuels and police or weapons to protect them? They won't last one week. But as long as their fictive mental universe is standing they think everything is OK.
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                                                        > > During and after the destruction of the Aryan spirit and soul the Semites have gradually infected Aryans with a virtual mental universe to better manipulate and exterminate them; This is what has and is happening. The vast majority of "Whites" people don't live in reality but in this fictive mental universe.
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                                                      • tlefranc10
                                                        Regarding abortion in the West, it is of course odious to think that it was pushed through mainly by non-European individuals and groups. On the other hand,
                                                        Message 27 of 28 , Jun 26, 2014
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                                                          Regarding abortion in the West, it is of course odious to think that it was pushed through mainly by non-European individuals and groups. On the other hand, basing ourselves on the racial knowledge expressed by J. Evola, is it not right to assume that “parents” or a woman who do not see any problem in aborting their “future child” are inferior and that their child would not have been better than them had he or she lived?


                                                          Please note that I exclude special cases (an abortion following a rape, an abortion of a fetus with grave genetic disorder, etc.) from these considerations.

                                                        • evola_as_he_is
                                                          Please also take note that special cases tend to become less special as times goes by. Considering the level of the new White generations, one does not have to
                                                          Message 28 of 28 , Jun 30, 2014
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                                                            Please also take note that special cases tend to become less special as times goes by.


                                                            Considering the level of the new White generations, one does not have to be a cynic not to blame some White females, given your premises, for being, so to speak, wise enough, when pregnant, not to give birth. On the other hand, and given that, to use J. Evolas’ own ‘terminology’, ‘vertical’ heredity and horizontal, historical, biological heredity are not necessarily connected in all cases, it could also be argued that these females, by aborting, prevent the birth of potentially differentiated children (see The Mystery of Birth Explained

                                                             

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