OK, I read #1256. It makes sense that the meeting never took place because you would think that Evola’s racial theory would have been the primary topic of converstation.
Just a quick comment while we await the translations. In his essay on Esoteric Catholicism Evola also refers to Genesis 6:4, giving it a similar interpretation to Serrano’s.
Also, AH in his magnum opus made a distinction between a political leader and a religious reformer; AH was the former and Serrano the latter. (may we say that Serrano plays the role of Paul?) Now since Serrano wants to demythologize the Nordic gods to make them psychological forces arising from the unconscious, should not his entire mythology be given the same treatment?
By the way, “this writer”, c’est moi. My family lived for centuries at Salemi which for a time was home to a Norman fortress. #1256 refers to Evola’s Norman heritage. Not that it matters.
From: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com [mailto:evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Evola
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 9:39 AM
To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [evola_as_he_is] Re: Serrano and Evola
This may very well be the bottom line with respect to M. Serrano's misunderstanding of the core of the racial doctrine exposed by J. Evola. The reason we would like to conduct and to propose a critical examination of the excerpts of his work dealing with J. Evola's, once we are able to offer an English translation of the whole corpus, is that, leaving aside his misunderstandings, his errors, and even his blunders, some of which we already pointed out in message #1256, it seems to us that, in other respects, some of his considerations contain intuitions that would gain by being explored.
By the way, the Italian writer never claimed heritage from the Viking Normans.
--- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Tony Ciapo" <hyperborean@...> wrote:
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> Doesn't Serrano claim to be a Visigoth from Galicia, a part of Spain remote
> from the lands conquered by the Moors? Just as this writer can claim
> heritage from the Viking Normans who occupied a large fortress in his
> ancestral homeland of Salemi.
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> The bottom line is that Serrano accepts the myth of blood and misunderstands
> Evola's position. The point of the race of the spirit is not that a
> "mestizo" can have an Aryan spirit, but rather that even a man of the
> correct bloodline is not an Aryan unless and until he is twice born into
> that spirit. Oddly enough, Jung himself allegedly proposed an idea similar
> to the race of the soul, namely the unconscious of the Aryan is different
> from the Jewish? Unfortunately, Serrano refers to an edition of Jung's book
> that is no longer available.
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> From: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com [mailto:evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of vandermok
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 6:05 AM
> To: evola as he is
> Subject: Re: [evola_as_he_is] Re: Serrano and Evola
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> If the Sicilian Evola was not properly of Aryan blood in the mind of
> Serrano, just fancy about our "hidalgo" born in the southern hemisphere...He
> surely would retort that the Aryans came out from a hole in the Antarctica.
> Why not?
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> It is interesting that there is a book by R. Noll titled "The Aryan Christ:
> the secret life of C.G. Jung". Ernest Jones wrote even to Freud: "Jung is
> going to save the world, another Christ (with certainly anti-Semitism
> combined)."
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> It is well known, in fact, that Jung was anti-Semite till 1939 (as paraded
> many times by the yahoogroup Retour-ŕ-Guénon). Afterwards he took a Jewish
> secretary, Aniela Jaffé, who edited also the autobiographical book you
> quote: "Memories, dreams, reflections of C.G. Jung". A. Jaffé is even buried
> exactly beside Jung.
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> Men change: after all before to become a follower of the Last Avatar,
> Serrano was a Marxist...
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> From: G. van der Heide <mailto:vnvsmvndvs@...>
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> To: evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com
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> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 10:18 PM
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> Subject: Re: [evola_as_he_is] Re: Serrano and Evola
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> In his work M. Serrano adopts C.G. Jung's theory of explicitly racial
> archetypes. This racial interpretation he defends before and during the war.
> In the post-war era he remained silent about the matter. This is -in M.
> Serrano's vision- the 'different' Jung. This viewpoint isn't expressed in M.
> Serrano's earlier writings (including The Hermetic Circle) however.
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> 2011/5/30 Tony Ciapo <hyperborean@...>
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