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Are we sure that it existed, in the first place? According to the
report of the Templars trial, many people testified that they had
seen it with their own eyes. However, none of them came up with the
same description. In fact, the very term 'Baphomet' was never used
during the trial, neither by the Templars nor by their accusers. It
was coined a few centuries later on the basis of the testimony of an
Occitan Brother named Gaucerant, who used it, during the trial, in
its adjectival form, that is, 'baphometic', which, as showed by a
poem of 1265 called 'Ira e dolor', is an alteration of 'Mahomet' ("E
Bafomet obra de son goder" - "And Mahomed showed his power"). He
confessed he had worshipped a "baphometic image". Bernard Marillier,
who pointed this out in "B.A.B.A des templiers", added that this
Brother was most likely not to be aware of the fact that Islam
forbids idolatry and the representation of God. On the other hand,
isn't it slightly ingenuous to assume that a member of the Knight
Templars, an Order which was in close contact with the Arab Muslim
world for years, was not aware of this, as well as of the fact that
exoteric Islam may differ greatly from esoteric Islam, whose
teachings, as previously pointed out, are likely to have much in
common with pre-Islamic Arab ones?

Many etymologies of the term "Baphomet" were offered later. Evola,
in 'The Mystery of the Grail' went for "bafos metos", "baptism
through fire".

But, once again, what if the 'Baphomet' never actually existed and it
was a complete forgery? Among other things, it would mean that, in
Europe, power, which was lost by occult means, will not be recaptured
by occult means, but, on the contrary, by an open fight against the
occult powers which are responsible for the decay of Europe, in the
true warrior spirit of the first Aryans. The first step in this fight
consists in unmasking those occult forces, whichever they are.





--- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Rowan Berkeley"
<rowan_berkeley@y...> wrote:
>
> "Many historians believe that the Knight Templars invented modern
Banking System ; some even think that they
> learned banking, as well as Kabbalah, from the Jews, and that, when
they set up a string of banks all over
> Europe and all along the road to the 'Holy Land', they asked Jews
to help them manage them."
>
> I wonder whether the theory that they learned occult secrets from
the Isma'ilis is a blind to conceal their real
> dealings with Jews. If so it has had an interesting circulation,
being enthusiastically adopted by everyone from
> the OTO to William Burroughs - not to mention Sebottendorf's
somewhat similar concept of 'Turkish Freemasonry',
> and the notion that Rosicrucianism derived from the East
('Damcar'), and returned there.
>
> -- but what, in that case, of the famous 'Head', the 'Baphomet'?
>
>
>
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Wed Oct 12, 2005 6:31 pm

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"Many historians believe that the Knight Templars invented modern Banking System ; some even think that they learned banking, as well as Kabbalah, from the...
Rowan Berkeley
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Oct 12, 2005
2:37 pm

Are we sure that it existed, in the first place? According to the report of the Templars trial, many people testified that they had seen it with their own...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Oct 12, 2005
6:33 pm

It is possible Templars derived some knowledge from the acolytes of the famous Fortress of Alamut. There is a vague hypothesis of a secret branch practising...
vandermok
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Oct 12, 2005
4:46 pm

I'm glad to hear this scholarly confirmation of the most logical solution to the 'Baphomet' riddle, namely that the name is a corrupt form of 'Mahomet'. Your...
Rowan Berkeley
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Oct 12, 2005
8:19 pm

Evola's assessment of the Templars (incidentally a subject touching me personally) couldn't be clearer: "Among the various knightly orders, the Order of the...
brightimperator Offline Send Email Oct 13, 2005
1:04 pm

My dear Imperator, are you aware of how Judaeophilic the Mussolini regime actually was? Has it not struck you that Evola's ability to remain detached from this...
Rowan Berkeley
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Oct 13, 2005
1:44 pm

The fact that Evola was a regular collaborator for years to the newspaper of one of the fiercest European anti-semites of the whole XXth century, namely...
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2:51 pm

I never pretended Evola was unconditionally correct on all questions. Notice my question marks. But he certainly isn't a fool either. In this case he seems to...
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4:42 pm

Isn't it also possible that the real plan of both Germany and Italy was to flatter the zionists into believing that they (the zionists, horribile dictu) were...
Rowan Berkeley
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Oct 13, 2005
3:38 pm

Chairman of the Zionist Federation of Germany Berlin, 29 June 1933 To the Reich Chancellor Mr. Adolf Hitler Berlin. Mr. Chancellor of the Reich, The Zionist...
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3:47 pm

By 1934, Jabotinsky and his Betar youth movement had made an alliance with Il Duce, when the Betar established a naval training academy at Civitavecchia,...
Rowan Berkeley
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Oct 13, 2005
4:05 pm

The coldness of the answer of the German authorities to the request of the Chairman of the Zionist Federation of Germany is typical of the relations between...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Oct 13, 2005
5:46 pm

I see you favour the zionist agency's own version, since you have offered it in extenso: http://www.wzo.org.il/en/resources/view.asp?id=585 ...
Rowan Berkeley
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Oct 13, 2005
6:09 pm

We don't favour either Zionist positions or anti-Zionism positions, for reasons which we have already explained in extenso : when most people see things like...
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6:35 pm

Today it seems that even the cat and the fox agree for looking at the dark side of the things... Evola judged fascism and nazism from on high, and it is also...
vandermok
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Oct 13, 2005
5:30 pm

As pointed out by Evola in 'The Doctrine of Awakening', in Buddhist canonical texts, the mind is sometimes compared to a monkey jumping from branch to branch....
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Oct 13, 2005
8:23 pm

By 1934 the SS had become the most pro-Zionist element in the Nazi Party. Other Nazis were even calling them 'soft' on the Jews. Baron von Mildenstein had...
Rowan Berkeley
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Oct 13, 2005
5:33 pm

"To commemorate the Baron's expedition, Goebbels had a medal struck : on one side the swastika, on the other the Zionist star." German humour is often...
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6:07 pm

Thanks for the sly compliment: comparing me with Guénon. You freeze me, knowing I was referring to the disputable interview by that Jewish newspaper-woman,...
vandermok
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Oct 14, 2005
10:39 am

You didn't say that Evola changed his mind about the so-called "final solution", but only about the methods by which it is supposed to have been implemented,...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Oct 14, 2005
1:09 pm

and thank you for the sly compliment of "the cat and the fox", Fulvio, and also for the nice painting of the baphomet. ...
Rowan Berkeley
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Oct 14, 2005
11:01 am

You went beyond my intentions, introducing openly that problem of a new approach by Evola. About the interview in "Ave Lucifer", I utilized the word...
vandermok
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Oct 14, 2005
3:40 pm

Evola's assessment of the Templars couldn't be clearer, indeed, and we are thankful to you for posting that excerpt from the American edition of 'Il mistero...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Oct 14, 2005
7:34 pm

Suppose the intention of Clairvaux was to create a permanent, securely defended, corridor, from Europe, through the Semitic Near East, to Aryan Persia and...
Rowan Berkeley
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Oct 14, 2005
8:11 pm

This would also explain why Constantinople had to fall, and why, 650 years later, drugs having become in the meantime one of the main sources of income of...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Oct 14, 2005
10:12 pm

Nowadays, it can be spoken of 'Aryan' only in the typological sense, as already stressed by Evola in 'Three Aspects of the Jewish Problem' in the 1930's...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Oct 15, 2005
12:37 pm

Late, because my message came back from Yahoo because of the usual mysterious "bouncing" reasons. Perhaps my enclosure with the Baphomet image has been too...
vandermok
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Oct 17, 2005
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