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Re: [evola_as_he_is] Youth, Beats and Right-Wing Anarchists

Your comments in the opening paragraph remind me somewhat of Evola's view of nihilism in 'Ride the Tiger'. Indeed whilst he may not have supported nihilism himself, he did understand the essential role it plays in the overall scheme of things.


evola_as_he_is <evola_as_he_is@...> wrote:
Do you see an essay such as 'Youth, Beats and Right-Wing Anarchists'
being written by an author supporting at the same time the student
revolt of 1968, whose background and claims were massively inspired by
the Beats'?

Although Evola studied it from a much higher point of view, this is
what he stated in ''Psicanalisi della "contestazione"', 'Il
Conciliatore', 1970 : "Owing to the lack of true counterpart and the
predominance of an irrational background, we can say, without wishing
to be spiteful, that this anti-authority movement would deserve an
existential and psycho-analytic study more than a cultural study."

Please see message 173 ('Freda') and related messages for more on
Evola's view on the so-called student revolt of 1968, supported by
direct references to the texts. Anything not backed by direct
references to the texts, just disregard, especially when it comes to
controversed authors.

The site had not been updated for a long time. The man who offered to
update it with 'Youth, Beats and Right-Wing Anarchists' did it before
he translated all the footnotes. It will soon be updated with the
first footnote, as well as with an introduction.

Generally speaking, it needs polishing. It's being worked on as we
speak. Rowan has rolled up his sleeves.

--- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "G" <vnvsmvndvs@...> wrote:
>
> Thank you for publishing this today not less relevant text.
>
> In connection with this subject matter, I wonder if Evola approved of
> the student revolt of 1968, a claim I've seen being made without any
> reference to a genuine source.
> If this were true I can only imagine that he approved of it because in
> Italy there was still an amount of right-wing students present.
>
> P.S. Although I would not want to draw unnecessary much attention to
> it, I would like to point out that the content of the first footnote
> is missing and that where Collins is quoted in the text (the
> particular quote being: "I thought murder was but an expression of
> revolt against the modern world and its ambushes, because the more one
> speaks of order and society, the higher goes the crime rate. I thought
> his crimes were but an act of defiance…It was far from being the case:
> he kills for the same reason that drives an alcohol to drink, because
> he cannot do without it") the word `alcohol' in the last sentence
> should most likely be replaced by the word alcoholic.
>
>
> --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "evola_as_he_is"
> <evola_as_he_is@> wrote:
> >
> > It really does not.
> >
> > To write an essay, an author may use "to some extent" a given
> > material, but this obviously does not mean that he agrees, whether in
> > full or in part, with the conclusions reached by those who have
> > produced it.
> >
> > In 1958, a few decades before his conversion to neoconservatism, the
> > young leftist intellectual N. Podhoretz argued in his essay 'The
> > Know-Nothing Bohemians' that the 'Beat Generation' glamourised the
> > primitive and the instinctual and hated the civilised and the rational
> > ; therefore, to oppose or support the Beats, "has to do (...) with
> > being for or against intelligence itself". Evola criticised the 'beat
> > generation', but never for being "against intelligence itself", for
> > the simple reason that Evola never overestimated 'intelligence', at
> > least as conceived of by establishment intellectuals such as Reynolds,
> > Gold and Podhoretz. These, on the basis of a bourgeois conservative
> > standpoint, opposed two human types which are basically by-products of
> > the same bourgeois society, that is to say, on one hand, the
> > 'instinctual man' and, on the other hand, the 'rational man', and did
> > not see any other alternative to these 'false twins'. Evola does.
> >
> > Evola's point of reference has always been the 'differentiated man'
> > which is as far from the 'instinctual man' as he is from the 'rational
> > man'.
> >
> > In 'Partisan review', Podhoretz chastised the beats for having claimed
> > they wanted to "Kill the intellectuals who can talk coherently, kill
> > the people who can sit still for five minutes at a time, kill those
> > incomprehensible characters who are capable of getting seriously
> > involved with a woman, a job, a cause". From the ideas expounded by
> > Evola on the subject in 'Youth, Beats and Right-Wing Anarchists' and
> > other writings of his on this topic, there is every reason to think
> > that he would have gladly let both sides kill each other, with their
> > favourite ammunitions : blanks.
> >
> > Interestingly enough, many current scholars have reached the
> > conclusion that the beats' novels would never have become so
> > successful, hadn't they been so narrow-mindedly criticised by American
> > anti-beats. This is what may be called the catch-51 syndrome : "I am
> > the AL and the WY". The 'differentiated man', as for him, does not
> > precisely boost sales.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, Rowan Berkeley
> > <rowan.berkeley@> wrote:
> > >
> > > This essay offers an early example of cross fertilisation between
> > the ideas of
> > > Evola and those of the writers who were to become "the
> > neoconservatives":
> > >
> > > "In what follows we will use to some extent the material consisting
> > of the
> > > testimonies and the essays collected in the anthology by S. Krim,
> > The Beats -
> > > the most important essays are those by H. Gold, Marc Reynold and N.
> > Podhoretz"
> > >
> >
>



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As the layout of 'Heathen Imperialism' is finished and it's now only a matter of having it printed, the site has been updated with the English translation of...
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This essay offers an early example of cross fertilisation between the ideas of Evola and those of the writers who were to become "the neoconservatives": "In...
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Sep 2, 2007
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It really does not. To write an essay, an author may use "to some extent" a given material, but this obviously does not mean that he agrees, whether in full or...
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Thank you for publishing this today not less relevant text. In connection with this subject matter, I wonder if Evola approved of the student revolt of 1968, a...
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Sep 3, 2007
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Do you see an essay such as 'Youth, Beats and Right-Wing Anarchists' being written by an author supporting at the same time the student revolt of 1968, whose...
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4:18 pm

Your comments in the opening paragraph remind me somewhat of Evola's view of nihilism in 'Ride the Tiger'. Indeed whilst he may not have supported nihilism...
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