Until a few decades ago, in a Western world whose legislation still
bore the traces of the democratised remains of Roman law, anyone was
still innocent until proved guilty. Nowadays, anyone is guilty until
proved innocent, unless one has 'friends in high places'. Would this
change of perspective be due to the recent implementation of the
Noahide laws in Western countries, whether in an instutionalised
fashion in the United States
(
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evola_as_he_is/message/1153), or, in
European countries, in a sneaky, rampant, fashion, by means of a
creeping shariahization of democratic legislation.
Along the same lines, nowadays, from a Jewish or Jewishised
standpoint, any document, if anti-Jewish, is a fraud until proved
genuine. "Dr. Herbert Aptheker, Director of the American Institute for
Marxist Studies," is asked "to do some additional research about the
alleged letter from Baruch Levy to Karl Marx.", and, "In a letter,
dated September 5, 1967," Dr. Aptheker states : "I have examined five
of the biographies of Marx . . . including those by Mehring, Ruhle,
Postgate, Eastman, Lewis . . . and find no mention of anything in any
way resembling the material you quote from Baruch Levy. In all my
reading in Marxism ... considerable for about 33 years . . . I have
never seen anything remotely like that. Let me add that I have
examined the indexes of all 6 volumes . . . Volumes 27 through 32 . .
. of the Marx-Engels Werke (Dietz Verlag, Berlin, 1963-1965) and find
no mention of a Baruch Levy or any indication of any letter in any way
similar to that you mention." Fair enough. Note, however, that Dr.
Aptheker's conclusions are less exalted and more subjective than those
reached by "Larcoelaclava" : "I think, he says, one may therefore say
great confidence (sic) that the letter is a hoax, as one would believe
in any case from its contents." Unlike 'Larcoelaclava', he does not
call to "common sense", he merely, almost humbly, asks us to trust his
own judgment : "I think" ; "one would believe".
Common sense should not be mistaken for irrationality. To claim that
"this letter is false" is irrational. Common sense would say : "there
is no way of proving that this letter is genuine or false". Likewise,
there is no way of proving that 'The Protocols of the Elders of Zion'
are fraudulent or authentic. Far from common sense and even further
from irrationality, J. Evola stated : "It is only by inductive
processes that the importance of texts such as the 'Protocols' can be
determined. This means that the problem of their 'authenticity' is
secondary to the far more serious and essential problem of their
'veracity', as was already emphasised by Giovani Preziosi when he
published them for the first time seventeen years ago. The serious and
positive conclusion of the whole controversy which has developed since
is that, even if we assume that the 'Protocols' are not 'authentic' in
the narrow sense, it comes to the same thing as if they were, for two
capital and decisive reasons :
1) because the facts show that they describe the real state of affairs
truthfully ;
2) because their correspondence with the governing ideas of both
traditional and modern Judaism is indisputable.
(
http://thompkins_cariou.tripod.com/id68.html)
Since it is a duty for all members of this forum to read the writings
published on www.thompkins_cariou.tripod.com, posting a message
attempting at selling the official version of the 'Protocols of the
Elders of Zion' without even acknowledging the considerations put
forward in J. Evola's 'Preface to this text is unacceptable,
especially from those who set themselves up to be serious, to be
paragon of academic seriousness. This is a forum dedicated to the work
and the life of J. Evola : this is not www.stormfront.com, a "pig
farm", a "pig farm" on which, incidentally, more than a few members
are likely not to eat ham : in other words, on which more than a few
members are likely to be more or less dark-skinned 'agents
provocateurs' (for those Europeans who still fool themselves in
thinking that current far-right organisations are not infiltrated from
top to bottom and are not kosherised to the core, see
http://news.scotsman.com/farrightineurope/Quest-to-ban-neoNazis-ends.2411710.jp)\
.
Semites are well-known for accusing their ennemies of evils they are
themselves affected by.
"It's as sad, 'Larcoelaclava' pontificates, as it is enraging to see
Evola mixed pele-mele with as ignoble pursuits as this sort", as if we
had our own agenda and we were merely using Evola's work to support it
opportunistically and more or less ignobly. The only thing this kind
of accusation shows is how upside down this world is. For that letter
from Baruch Levi to Karl Marx happens to have been quoted by J. Evola
himself in 'The Relationship between Judaism and Freemasonry'
(translated from Italian) :
"In fact, it is unnecessary to refer to the most controversial
'Protocols' : many positive declarations can arouse similar suspicions
[suspicions that the Jews aim at ruling the world], and, for example,
it may be enough to recall the words which Baruch Levi wrote to Karl
Marx, which are not well-known and are worth quoting : "The Jewish
people, as a whole, will be its own Messiah. Its domination on the
world will be achieved by the union of the other human races, through
the elimination of frontiers and of monarchies, which are the ramparts
of particularism, and through the formation of a worldwide republic,
in which the Jews will enjoy their rights everywhere. In this new
organisation of humanity, the sons of Israel, who are now scattered
throughout the world, will be able, without obstacles, to become
everywhere the leading element, especially if they manage to place the
working masses under the control of certain of their own number. The
governments of the peoples constituting the worldwide republic, with
the help of the proletariat, without this requiring any effort, will
all fall into the hands of the Jews. Private property can then be
subject to rulers of Jewish origin, who will control the state goods
everywhere. Thus, the promise of the Talmud will be fulfilled,
according to which Jews, when the time comes, will possess the keys of
the wealth of all the peoples of the world."
Once again, those who feel like defaming us are strongly encouraged to
go through www.thompkins_cariou.tripod.com first, unless they enjoy
making a fool of themselves in public.
The 'Kol Nidre' is a Jewish prayer recited in the synagogue at the
beginning of the evening service on Yom Kippur. It says that it's fine
to lie to non Jews. It was also quoted by J. Evola, in 'Il Mito del
sangue' and in 'Il 'genio' d'Israele'. The content of this prayer is
so unambiguous in this respect that Jews (non ignorant ones, needless
to say) have to resort to the same old tactic to duck the issue : "One
popular objection to it has been that ignorant Jews would misinterpret
the prayer as a license for deceit and treachery - just as
anti-Semites have" (
http://www.slate.com/id/2201628/). Likewise, Baba
Kamma 113a. says "Jews may use lies/subterfuges to circumvent a
Gentile", but needless to say that only "ignorant Jews" and
"anti-Semites" "would misinterpret" this statement "as a license for
deceit and treachery." This is Jewish humour at its very best.
There are certainly "Professional anti-Semites", including in current
so-called far-right European parties (see above). A few years ago, two
guys were sued for selling Third Reich antiques on the Internet ; if
our memory serves us right : on ebay.com. These two guys turned out to
be Jews. They are not the only ones : "A Camen Passage shop selling
Nazi memorabilia has sparked outrage among fellow traders who say it
shames the world famous antiques market. Nazi caps, SS daggers and
banners carrying swastikas are among the controversial items on sale
at Leon's Militaria and Antiques, in The Mall. The shop's Jewish owner
Leon Shrier refused to comment when contacted by the Gazette (...)
(
http://www.islingtongazette.co.uk/content/islington/gazette/news/story.aspx?bra\
nd=ISLGOnline&category=news&tBrand=northlondon24&tCategory=newsislg&itemid=WeED2\
4%20Oct%202007%2014%3A02%3A02%3A820)
So "there is a regular business of producing forged Jewish documents".
Forged exactly by whom ? Any comprehensive references ? Meanwhile, as
suggested by
http://player.omroep.nl/?aflID=7340625 , the antiques
market, as are most markets, is controled by Jews. In this respect,
let's take a look at one of these Jewish projects that are so dear to
us : a project "dedicated to the historical reconstruction of the
Nazis' seizure of Jewish cultural property in France".
"On the basis of the decree of the Führer of 17 September 1940
relative to the seizure of ownerless works of art formerly possessed
by the Jews in the occupied Western Territories, the Special Staff for
Pictorial Art commenced at the beginning of October 1940 in Paris with
the seizure of the works of art abandoned by the internationally known
Jewish Rothschild family, which was famous also for its great art
collections. It was not possible for the various members of the Jewish
Rothschild family, nor for many other rich French Jews, to take any
considerable part of their art holdings to England and America in
their sudden flight before the German occupation. The Staff has not
only seized great parts of the art treasures abandoned in the Paris
city palaces of the Rothschilds, but it also systematically searched
the country seats of the individual members of the Rothschild family,
such as the famous Loire castles, for art treasures, thereby
safeguarding for the Reich important parts of the world-famous
Rothschild art collections. The art holdings of the Rothschilds were
traced not only to clever hiding places in the individual castles but
also to depots and warehouses, as for example in Bordeaux and other
coastal cities, where the art treasures had already been packed for
transport to America. In this same manner, the artworks of other
French Jews, famous for their art collections, such as Kann,
David-Weill, Levy de Benzion and Seligmann, were traced by the Staff
and seized in their entirety.
"After the seizure of the most famous Jewish art collections in
Paris, all abandoned dwellings of wealthy Parisian Jews, as well as
the warehouses of all shipping firms and many other art depots of
emigrated Jews, which were very often camouflaged by French gentiles,
were systematically searched by the Special Staff for Pictorial Art,
and considerable art treasures were found in this manner. These
seizures were carried out on the basis of preliminary exhaustive
investigations into the address lists of the French police
authorities, Jewish handbooks, warehouse inventories and order books
of French shipping firms, as well as French art and collection
catalogs. The clearly established Jewish origin of the individual
owners was proved in each case in cooperation with the French police
authorities and the Sicherheitsdienst (Security Service), as well as
through reference to the political source material of the Staff itself.
"According to the same system, the seizure of ownerless Jewish works
of art was gradually extended over the whole French territory. The
investigations of the Special Staff for Pictorial Art were often made
extraordinarily difficult through proven sabotage by French
authorities, as well as through the camouflaging of Jewish possessions
under the trusteeship of French gentiles covering for the Jews. In
spite of this, Jewish artworks in the occupied French territories were
seized to such an extant as to justify the assumption that, in spite
of all opposition and camouflaging, the most important part of the art
possessions which had been in the hands of Jews in France, insofar as
these had not already been removed before the occupation, was
safeguarded by the Staff. The wholesale removal of irreplaceable
European art was thereby prevented, and the highest artistic
productions of all European nations secured for Europe."
(
http://docproj.loyola.edu/jdp/index.html - it includes a list of
seized Jewish art collections)
Are the following statements forged Jewish documents ?
"And that the kingdom, and power, and the greatness of the kingdom,
under the whole heaven, may be given to the people of the saints of
the most High: whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all kings
shall serve him, and shall obey him." (Daniel 7:27 - Douay-Rheims Bible)
"But you shall be called the priests of the Lord: to you it shall be
said: Ye ministers of our God: you shall eat the riches of the
Gentiles, and you shall pride yourselves in their glory." (Isaiah 61:6
- Douay-Rheims Bible)
"Thou shalt consume all the people, which the Lord thy God will
deliver to thee. Thy eye shall not spare them, neither shalt thou
serve their gods, lest they be thy ruin." (Deuteronomy 7:16 -
Douay-Rheims Bible)
--- In
evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "larco_e_laclava"
<larcoelaclava@...> wrote:
>
> A reality stranger than fiction -- or fiction in the guise reality!
>
> Anyone with even a trace of common-sense will immediately recognise
> the falseness of this letter, as well as of all fanciful "evidence"
> of this sort.
>
> It's also interesting to note - as a common example of this perveted
> and perfidious mentality - how this letter is quoted on the pig farm
> known as the Stormfront forum as being 'from' Karl Marx, which even
> the original hoax does not claim!
>
> And, ultimately, when the deceptive nature of their "evidence" is
> brought to light, they can pull the Joker card: evidence don't matter
> any way!
>
> It's as sad as it is enraging to see Evola mixed pele-mele
> with as ignoble pursuits as this sort.
>
> "Professional anti-Semites are continually discovering secret
> Jewish "conspiracies" with which to inflame the passions of their
> ignorant followers. Simple-minded people avidly accept simple-minded
> explanation that all of the world's troubles caused by the Jews.
> There is a regular business of producing forged Jewish documents, and
> it is very plain to any serious student that hate peddlers have
> scoured the earth in search of "documents" which are then placed in
> files, for use at appropriate times. Thus we find that a reactionary
> magazine, Revue De Paris, in its issue of June 1, 1928, carried a
> long and Prime article in French, whose translated title is "The
> Secret Origins of Bolshevism: Henry Heine and Karl Marx." It is a
> vicious, anti-Semitic article, which tells of a Jewish "conspiracy"
> to conquer the world and then ties this imaginary conspiracy to
> Communism. As part of its "proof," it quotes from an alleged letter
> from one, Baruch Levy, to Karl Marx, the co-founder of the modern
> Communist movement. Nowhere in the article is there any inkling of
> who Baruch Levy could possibly be, excepting that he is referred to
> as a Neo-Messianist (whatever that is supposed to denote). The Baruch
> Levy "letter" outlines a Jewish plan to take over the world. Nowhere
> in the writings of Karl Marx is there any mention of Baruch Levy
> and/or his alleged letter. In fact, one can be reasonably certain
> Marx would have consigned it to the incinerator, if such a letter had
> reached him. Revue De Paris does not state where it obtained the
> alleged letter. The obvious reason -that it is a fraud- can easily be
> deduced from the internal evidence. Its leitmotif is almost identical
> with the central theme of the Rabbi Rabinovich fabrication (which we
> have already discussed) and the fraudulent Protocols of the Elders of
> Zion (which we will soon examine). In other words, any sane person,
> who has a knowledge of history, can readily recognize the Baruch Levy
> letter as a palpable fraud.
>
> Thirty-seven years later, Hal Hunt quoted the Baruch Levy letter on
> the front page of his hate sheet, National Chronicle of March 11, 1965
> , along with the Kol Nidre hoax and other fraudulent items. How did
> the editor of a small-circulation sheet obtain an article from a
> Parisian magazine and how did he obtain an English translation of
> this essay? The answers are obvious to anyone who does research into
> the propaganda techniques of the hate publications: it is a stock
> item, which travels from -one hate publication to another, because
> the members of this fraternity read and dote on each other's
> fulminations. The Baruch Levy hoax has appeared periodically, and
> will probably continue to be used until there is no longer a market
> for this kind of merchandise.
>
> We asked Dr. Herbert Aptheker, Director of the American Institute for
> Marxist Studies, to do some additional research about the alleged
> letter from Baruch Levy to Karl Marx. In a letter, dated September 5,
> 1967, Dr. Aptheker stated:
>
> I have examined five of the biographies of Marx . . . including those
> by Mehring, Ruhle, Postgate, Eastman, Lewis . . . and find no mention
> of anything in any way resembling the material you quote from Baruch
> Levy. In all my reading in Marxism ... considerable for about 33
> years . . . I have never seen anything remotely like that. Let me add
> that I have examined the indexes of all 6 volumes . . . Volumes 27
> through 32 . . . of the Marx-Engels Werke (Dietz Verlag, Berlin, 1963-
> 1965) and find no mention of a Baruch Levy or any indication of any
> letter in any way similar to that you mention. These are the volumes
> which contain the letters . . . Briefe . . . of Marx and Engels,
> commencing in 1842 and going through 1870 (all so far published). I
> think one may therefore say great confidence that the letter is a
> hoax, as one would believe in any case from its contents."
>
> SOURCE QUOTED: "The Hoaxers – Plain Liars, Fancy Liars and Damned
> Liars" by Morris Kominsky, Branden Press, Boston, 1970.
>
> SOURCE:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message497226/pg1
>
>
> --- In
evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "evola_as_he_is"
> <evola_as_he_is@> wrote:
> >
> > "The Jewish people as a whole will become its own Messiah. It will
> > attain world dominion by the dissolution of other races, by the
> > abolition of frontiers, the annihilation of monarchy and by the
> > establishment of a world republic in which the Jews will everywhere
> > exercise the privilege of citizenship.
> >
> > In this New World Order the children of Israel will furnish all the
> > leaders without encountering opposition. The Governments of the
> > different peoples forming the world republic will fall without
> > difficulty into the hands of the Jews. It will then be possible for
> > the Jewish rulers to abolish private property and everywhere to make
> > use of the resources of the state. Thus will the promise of the
> Talmud
> > be fulfilled, in which is said that when the Messianic time is come,
> > the Jews will have all the property of the whole world in their
> hands."
> >
> > Baruch Levy, Letter to Karl Marx, 'La Revue de Paris', p.574, June 1
> ,
> > 1928.
> >
>