Hello,
This interview was actually made by one enthusiastic Italian young
man, and not two, in December 1971, and not at the end of the 1960's,
as stated yesterday, at Evola's apartment in Rome. Some day, we will
have to translate this interview, insofar it is much less formal than
the three other interviews he gave in his life, of which the one we
published. When you read it, you'll be able to sense that there is no
contempt in Evola's reply to that young man's question on the
Nostradamian prophecy of the destruction of Rome. It's a good thing
you recalled his remarks on the phenomenon of 'prophetism' in 'Revolt
against the Modern World', as well as the distortive effects the
Sibylline Books had on ancient Rome, even after August's attempt to
neutralise them.
We didn't misinterpret the purpose of your post. However, we should
have made ourselves clearer when we wondered whether we were
stretching the meaning of Guénon's observations on predictions in
considering that it is not the prediction you reported that we should
be suspicious of, but 'your' interpretation of it. To Guénon,
predictions in themselves are not dangerous, but only the erroneous
and 'tendentious' interpretations which may be given of them. Now, we
are far from being convinced that it is so. Some predictions have
proved to be dangerous. Generally speaking, some of the observations
made by Guénon on the problem of predictions are most relevant, and,
as usual with Guénon, others are questionable, not to say odd. Thus,
the light irony of our statement was meant to draw people's attention
to the true oddness of the latter.
Since you've had a close look at the texts by Evola which have been
published on http://:thompkins_cariou.tripod.com, you will certainly
remember this passage of 'Do we live in a gynaecocratic
society?': ""In the streets of Berlin, Paris or London," as for
instance A.Baeumler, a famous National-Socialist scholar, wrote, "all
you have to do is to observe for a moment a man or a woman to realise
that the cult of Aphrodite is the one before which Zeus and Apollo
had to beat a retreat...The present age bears, in fact, all the
features of a gynaecocratic age. In a late and decadent civilisation,
new temples of Isis and Astarte, of these Asian mother goddesses that
were celebrated in orgies and licentiousness, in desperate sinking
into sensual pleasure, arise. The fascinating female is the idol of
our times, and, with painted lips, she walks through the European
cities as she once did through Babylon. And as if she wanted to
confirm Bachofen's profound intuition, the lightly dressed modern
ruler of man keeps in leash a dog, the ancient symbol of unlimited
sexual promiscuity and infernal forces"". In another essay, Evola
recalled an ancient proverb according to which you have to catch a
barking dog's eyes before it catches yours. This is exactly the kind
of skills you have to have and to develop in times like these to be
able to defend yourself against the infiltration of infra-human
forces. According to its nature, the Jew turns out to be one of the
media through which these influences surface in the human world.
Manifestly, it is the most efficient of these media. As
superabundantly shown by Werner Sombart and by other authors, modern
economy has been made up from beginning to end in all its parts by
the Jew, more precisely by the Jew "as creature of the Jewish law,
and as conscious instrument of the Jewish law" ('Presentation of the
Jewish problem'). This Law is based on economy in the broadest sense:
the Jewish rationalistic germ proceeds "from a religion in which the
relations between man and God were conceived as a self-interested and
almost contractual regulation of profit and loss" ('Three Aspects of
the Jewish Problem') (even the rationalist Dumézil acknowledged
in 'La religion romaine archaïque' that, if, in its lower and
plebeian forms, the mos maiorum could be conceived of more or less in
these terms, this was not the spirit of its original and higher form,
as found among the patricians).
In Judaism, there is a central core, "in which the Jewish substance
is found at the highest degree of concentration and as self-
consciousness ; within this core are those who are today Jews and are
proud to be so, those who, besides, do not forget the promise of the
Regnum, in which Israel will rule supreme over all peoples and will
own all wealth on earth ; it is from within this central core that
originate the mysterious veins of the international and supranational
Jewish action, the masked forces which have acted and keep on acting
from behind the scene of history (....)"('Three Aspects of the Jewish
Problem'). It looks like Sitchin belongs to this core.
Since the days of Babylon and probably much before, any non-Jewish
power, including Caesar, has tried to use the Jews, only to end up
being used, including Napoleon, by the Jews. If, under the Third
Reich, the Jews were banned from any real management and their life
was made difficult in any branch of private and professional
activity, it is precisely because the National-Socialist leadership
had realised that, whatever state the Jew lives in, whether the U.S
or the U.K., Denmark or Lithuania, in the discharge of any given
profession, he either perverts or subordinates it to the aims of
domination of his 'race'. According to his spirit of nomad, of
scattered people, of stateless person, the Jew doesn't know what a
state is; he has been undermining European state-nations, which, to a
large extent, he contributed to create in the XIXth century in order
to destroy European empires. Objectively, he's now in charge of
what's left of most Western states, waiting for his notorious Regnum
to come. It is in his interest to make goyim believe that states
still exist and to make them consider the crisis of the modern world
in terms of states.
When a goy stares at the Jew and he sees two separate things, such
as, for instance, the U.S. and Russia, the U.S. and the U.K, it's
only because he has a squint.
When a goy looks at the Jew from above, he cannot but see that the
Jewish element belongs to a determinate substratum to which we have
been trying to draw the readers' attention. It is in this sense that,
to Evola, it would be a mistake to use the Jews as a scapegoat.
Thompkins&Cariou
--- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "brightimperator"
<brightimperator@y...> wrote:
> >>>Hello, The problem of Judaism and Freemasonry has recently been
> addressed, indeed. It has even been tackled, by a man who did not
> seem to have any interest in the literary genre of prophecy. When,
> in an interview he gave to two enthusiastic young Italian men at
the
> end of the 1960's (it can be found in a paper recently published by
> la cittadella on Evola), asked at some point what he thought about
> the Nostradamian prophecy of the destruction of Rome, he answered
> that he had never heard about it.
>
> -Indeed. Indifference and contempt is not inappropriate. Evola
> in "Revolt" explains the phenomenon of "prophetism" in the West is
> characteristic of lower castes and lunar Oriental races in the Indo-
> European sphere (Semites and Pelasgians) and is alien to the
> original Northern Spirit. Unwholesome interest in such things
> implies epileptic, feminine, and plebeian character-traits. One
> recalls the distortive effects Oriental-Etruscan divinatory
> superstitions had on ancient Rome.
>
> >>>Thus, are we stretching the meaning of this text when we say
that
> we shouldn't be suspicious of the prediction you wanted to share
> with us, but only of 'your' interpretation of it?
>
> -The purpose of my post was to alert others to be on guard against
> increased Masonic-Illuminist psy-op 'activity' relating to
> Nefilim/Aliens/Anunnaki/Ascended Masters in the forthcoming future,
> and to share knowledge in order to 'bypass' possible deceptions. Of
> course, one should not understood all of this at the purely
> literalistic level.
>
> Personally, in spite of my youth (20), I am spiritually well-
> defended against all subintellectual contagions and psychological
> attacks by subversive operators. The material put out by
> Thompkins&Cariou has been greatly helpful.
>
> Rowan Berkeley has indicated the following site as an example of
> self-identified Masonic-Illuminists working for the "return of the
> nefilim" (aliens/fallen angels/demons):
>
> http://www.antiqillum.com/texts/bg
>
> Also, it should be noted that Zechariah Sitchin, the famous
promoter
> of the 'ancient astronaut' theory, is an Israelite and a British
> Intelligence operative.
>
> >>>Guénon distinguished between two kinds of 'prédictions' with
> respect to their use; some are used to increase the chaos of our
> times by spreading everywhere turmoil and helplessness, others to
> see to it that determinate events really happen; do you think,
> Guénon said to illustrate by an example the latter case, that, by
> announcing insistently a revolution in a given country, this won't
> really help it to break out at the right time? It seems to us that
> the prediction you wanted to share with us belongs to the former
> case, although it is true that both uses are not mutually exclusive.
>
> -This is correct. Opinion-molders and mind-washers (e.g. the
> Intelligence services of Greater Anglo-Judea) understand the
> essentially manipulable and impressionable quality of broader
> humankind. Most human beings are unfortunately devoid of
> qualitatively human and rational features. 'Suggestions' from
agenda-
> driven cultural programmers with specific objectives mutate into
> inevitable self-fulfilling prophecies and spread like wildfire once
> the infantile, hysterical rabblement is infected with the
> predetermined memeplex.
>
> >>>Thus, it looks like the use of most current predictions is
> different from those mentioned by Guénon: it is about making
> people
> believe that what has already happened or is happening will only
> happen in the future, so that - misdirected - they cannot prevent
it
> from actually happening.
>
> -An astute analysis.
>
> I thank you for the scholarly and well-thought-out reply.