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This teaching may appear to us as being addressed to an abstract
humanity, but, at the time it was professed, there are strong grounds
for thinking that it didn't appear that way. The simple fact that,
originally, women were not allowed to have access to Buddhist
teachings should get us thinking, especially in this demo-
gynaecocratic day and age we live in.

There must be something which we didn't point out clearly enough, for
you to see now in the attitude of Buddhism towards castes a "social
pragmatism". Besides, early Buddhism didn't have any 'social message'
to deliver. If, by proclaiming "Not by caste is one a pariah, not by
caste is one a brâhmana; by actions is once a pariah, by actions is
one a brâhmana", Buddhism meant to draw our attention to the fact
that, in the kali-yuga, men are not necessarily born in the caste
which corresponds to their nature and their qualification, then, far
from constituting "an admission on pragmatic grounds of the
legitimacy of the present reign of demoplutocracy and its alibi
of "upward class mobility", this teaching invites us not to yield to
the temptation of equating, within the context of 'castes mixing' and
the class-struggle which follows on from it, social status with
spiritual dignity.

Are you sure that "Evola's whole dispute with Guénon was over whether
the archetypal leadership in a society should creatively embody both
the functions of the priest AND the warrior"? And that this was the
case in the military religious orders of the Middle Ages? Certainly,
the "analogies between the qualities of an ascetic and the virtues of
a warrior and of a hero" which "recur frequently in the canonical
texts" (p.16) wouldn't have left Bernard of Clairveaux, who
contributed to the decimation of the flower of Nordic nobility by
preaching the necessity of the second Crusade, indifferent. Both
Evola and Guénon approved of his 'holy war', yet.




--- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "brightimperator"
<brightimperator@y...> wrote:
>
> Thank you for the elucidations. Assuming the Buddhist theory of
> karmic formations (shankaras) provides coherence to the Traditional
> understanding of ethnic-spiritual heredity, this is left
> unexplicated in the Canon. In fact, what we encounter in the actual
> body of writings is the teaching of the inherent spiritual
> fungibility of an abstract humanity.
>
> As you clearly point out, it is possible to view the
> Buddhist 'reform' of Brahmanism as a form of social pragmatism,
> owing to the special chaotic conditions of the present epoch - one
> wonders how far this reasoning can be safely extended. For
instance,
> considering that, in our age of confusion and entropy, race, caste,
> soul, and spirit are discordant in a significant portion of modern
> humankind, could this line of thought constitute an admission on
> pragmatic grounds of the legitimacy of the present reign of
> demoplutocracy and its alibi of "upward class mobility"?
>
> Regarding subversion: The skills and actions of a warrior,
according
> to the Pali Canon, can only lead to endless rebirth and purgatory,
> not to the "triumphal death" expounded by Evola in "Revolt".
Doesn't
> Buddhism and its `ethical hemiplegia', its refusal to incorporate
> knightly self-affirmation into its ideal, mark it as a "lunar"
> religion according to Evola's own standards? In the Viniyapitaka
> (the Book of Discipline) monks are restricted from even attending
> local military displays. I am aware that the condemnations of the
> military appear in a transcendental context. Yet Evola's whole
> dispute with Guenon was over whether the archetypal leadership in a
> society should creatively embody both the functions of the priest
> AND the warrior, as in the military religious orders of the Middle
> Ages and specifically the Cistercian-based original Knights Templar.
>









Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:27 am

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Thank you for the elucidations. Assuming the Buddhist theory of karmic formations (shankaras) provides coherence to the Traditional understanding of...
brightimperator Offline Send Email Oct 11, 2005
7:47 pm

This teaching may appear to us as being addressed to an abstract humanity, but, at the time it was professed, there are strong grounds for thinking that it...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Oct 12, 2005
9:28 am

Interesting you should mention Clairvaux, and in such a negative light too. It has been argued elsewhere that the real agenda behind the Templars was an early...
Rowan Berkeley
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Oct 12, 2005
11:43 am

Bernard de Clairvaux was an extraordinary man, humanly speaking. Yet, a tree is to be judged by its fruits, and, from a Nordic point of view, he cannot but be...
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2:06 pm

"Many historians believe that the Knight Templars invented modern Banking System ; some even think that they learned banking, as well as Kabbalah, from the...
Rowan Berkeley
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Oct 12, 2005
2:37 pm

Are we sure that it existed, in the first place? According to the report of the Templars trial, many people testified that they had seen it with their own...
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6:33 pm

It is possible Templars derived some knowledge from the acolytes of the famous Fortress of Alamut. There is a vague hypothesis of a secret branch practising...
vandermok
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Oct 12, 2005
4:46 pm

I'm glad to hear this scholarly confirmation of the most logical solution to the 'Baphomet' riddle, namely that the name is a corrupt form of 'Mahomet'. Your...
Rowan Berkeley
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Oct 12, 2005
8:19 pm

Evola's assessment of the Templars (incidentally a subject touching me personally) couldn't be clearer: "Among the various knightly orders, the Order of the...
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1:04 pm

My dear Imperator, are you aware of how Judaeophilic the Mussolini regime actually was? Has it not struck you that Evola's ability to remain detached from this...
Rowan Berkeley
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Oct 13, 2005
1:44 pm

The fact that Evola was a regular collaborator for years to the newspaper of one of the fiercest European anti-semites of the whole XXth century, namely...
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2:51 pm

I never pretended Evola was unconditionally correct on all questions. Notice my question marks. But he certainly isn't a fool either. In this case he seems to...
brightimperator Offline Send Email Oct 13, 2005
4:42 pm

Isn't it also possible that the real plan of both Germany and Italy was to flatter the zionists into believing that they (the zionists, horribile dictu) were...
Rowan Berkeley
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Oct 13, 2005
3:38 pm

Chairman of the Zionist Federation of Germany Berlin, 29 June 1933 To the Reich Chancellor Mr. Adolf Hitler Berlin. Mr. Chancellor of the Reich, The Zionist...
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3:47 pm

By 1934, Jabotinsky and his Betar youth movement had made an alliance with Il Duce, when the Betar established a naval training academy at Civitavecchia,...
Rowan Berkeley
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Oct 13, 2005
4:05 pm

The coldness of the answer of the German authorities to the request of the Chairman of the Zionist Federation of Germany is typical of the relations between...
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5:46 pm

I see you favour the zionist agency's own version, since you have offered it in extenso: http://www.wzo.org.il/en/resources/view.asp?id=585 ...
Rowan Berkeley
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Oct 13, 2005
6:09 pm

We don't favour either Zionist positions or anti-Zionism positions, for reasons which we have already explained in extenso : when most people see things like...
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6:35 pm

Today it seems that even the cat and the fox agree for looking at the dark side of the things... Evola judged fascism and nazism from on high, and it is also...
vandermok
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Oct 13, 2005
5:30 pm

As pointed out by Evola in 'The Doctrine of Awakening', in Buddhist canonical texts, the mind is sometimes compared to a monkey jumping from branch to branch....
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8:23 pm

By 1934 the SS had become the most pro-Zionist element in the Nazi Party. Other Nazis were even calling them 'soft' on the Jews. Baron von Mildenstein had...
Rowan Berkeley
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Oct 13, 2005
5:33 pm

"To commemorate the Baron's expedition, Goebbels had a medal struck : on one side the swastika, on the other the Zionist star." German humour is often...
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6:07 pm

Thanks for the sly compliment: comparing me with Guénon. You freeze me, knowing I was referring to the disputable interview by that Jewish newspaper-woman,...
vandermok
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Oct 14, 2005
10:39 am

You didn't say that Evola changed his mind about the so-called "final solution", but only about the methods by which it is supposed to have been implemented,...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Oct 14, 2005
1:09 pm

and thank you for the sly compliment of "the cat and the fox", Fulvio, and also for the nice painting of the baphomet. ...
Rowan Berkeley
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Oct 14, 2005
11:01 am

You went beyond my intentions, introducing openly that problem of a new approach by Evola. About the interview in "Ave Lucifer", I utilized the word...
vandermok
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Oct 14, 2005
3:40 pm

Evola's assessment of the Templars couldn't be clearer, indeed, and we are thankful to you for posting that excerpt from the American edition of 'Il mistero...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Oct 14, 2005
7:34 pm

Suppose the intention of Clairvaux was to create a permanent, securely defended, corridor, from Europe, through the Semitic Near East, to Aryan Persia and...
Rowan Berkeley
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Oct 14, 2005
8:11 pm

This would also explain why Constantinople had to fall, and why, 650 years later, drugs having become in the meantime one of the main sources of income of...
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10:12 pm

Nowadays, it can be spoken of 'Aryan' only in the typological sense, as already stressed by Evola in 'Three Aspects of the Jewish Problem' in the 1930's...
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