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We don't know either what Gnostic sects Evola referred to in this
respect, both in 'Revolt against the Modern World' and in 'Three
Aspects of the Jewish Problem', in which he states : "(...) according
to the Ancients, the mythical serpent Typhon-Seth, the enemy of the
solar Egyptian God, would have been the Jews' father, and Jerome and
the Gnostics considered the Jewish god as, precisely, a 'Typhonian'
creature." Although not many documents have been handed down to us
directly from the Gnostics and they are to be treated with much
caution, since contemporary descriptions of Gnostics were made by
their detractors, it would seem that there was a consensus among
Gnostic authors as to the equation between Yehovah and Typhon-Seth.
In any case, as pointed out by Evola, they were not the only ones to
put them in equation.

Speaking of equation, in 'The Secret Books of the Egyptian Gnostics',
Jean Doresse, an Egyptologist who worked from 1943-1945 in the
Egyptian Department of the Louvre museum in Paris and became
acquainted with the Gnostic documents a few years later, draws a
striking parallel between the tactics of 1920-30's Trotskyist Left
oppositionists in their battle against Stalinism and the methods used
by early Gnostics in their conflict against the Roman Catholic
Church, as described by Tertullian : both "joined open meetings of
rival Literalists or Orthodox sects and engaged them in dialogue,
with the secret agenda of splitting the groups and recruiting its
members.". This parallel is extended, in as startling a manner, in a
review of 'The Secret Books of the Egyptian Gnostics' : "Actually an
Adept well versed in certain arcane and psychological philosophies,
could make some valid analogies of the above "teachings." However,
Doresse makes a legitimate point that, in order for its message of
(what we call) Salvation-for-the-Masses to be understood and
accepted, the Early Church was quite correct in rejecting such
convoluted Gnostic doctrines and conceptions of the universe. In
other words, according to the Fundamentalist Church, if the message
wasn't watered down enough to pull in the majority of suckers, then
that (Gnostic) message was definitely OUT. The Inquisition and The
Burning Times made it quite clear to what lengths Fundamentalists
would go to suppress people and ideas that didn't agree with their
Literalist interpretation of texts that were primarily plagiarisms to
begin with.

Apparently the honorable Church "Fathers" were so unsure of
their "Little Flock's" common sense that - rather than have them
deluded or seduced by Gnostic "Orientalism" - they wanted nothing
more than for the Gnostics to get the flock off the planet.

Stalinists felt exactly the same way about the "sectarian"
Trotskyites."

More to the point, Doresse, who cannot be suspected of being an anti-
Semite, states : "The god with the head of an ass is the image of the
Demiurge Ialdabaôth, the "god of the Jews"…It is upon certain
monuments of Egypt that we find the most ancient proofs of the
attribution of a donkey's head to a god, who was to become
progressively identified with the god of the Jews. This originated
from the Asiatic god Sutekh, whom the Egyptians assimilated to one of
their greatest gods; Seth, the adversary of Osiris. They represented
Seth also…with a human body and an ass's head. Afterwards…Seth was
definitely regarded by the Egyptians…as the father of the legendary
heroes Hierosolymus and Judaeus - that is, as an ancestor of the
Jews!"



--- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "brightimperator"
<brightimperator@y...> wrote:
> In "Revolt Against the Modern World", Evola refers to unnamed
Gnostic
> authors theorizing the Hebrew God's descent from Typhon. Would
anyone
> know what specific Gnostic groups and texts Evola is referring to
> here?
>
> Secondly, Gnostic sources would seem to be highly spiritually
> dubious. I have yet to come upon a Gnostic sect fully in accord
with
> the heroic Indo-European world-view. Evola himself, in "The Mystery
> of the Grail", acknowledges that Catharism, a virtual rebirth of
> ancient Gnosticism in the medieval Christian era, exhibits
> degenerated traits, possibly of Southern-Atlantic or pre-Aryan
Iberic
> origins, emphasizing a generally lunar, escapist, and feminine
> ideology. Thus, a Gnostic attack on the concept of Jehovah would
seem
> to represent a rebellion of the feminine principle against whatever
> of the patriarchal principle the Jehovah concept had retained. The
> ancient gnostics considered Jehovah in the same category as the
Indo-
> European Jupiter, i.e. as unjust, bloodthirsty, masculine warlord
> gods, to be transcended by a fatalistic, individualist, and
pacifist
> escapism, by means of the salvific help of the Mother Goddess in
the
> form of "Sophia".
>
> Of course, defenders of Traditional society know in what context so-
> called Gnosticism has been promoted nowadays: in the name of
> ideological feminism, egalitarianism, bonobo-like libertinism and
> degenerate 'sex-magick'.








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In "Revolt Against the Modern World", Evola refers to unnamed Gnostic authors theorizing the Hebrew God's descent from Typhon. Would anyone know what specific...
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The earliest representational image of Christ In the entire historical record Is on the wall of an ancient house On the Palatine Hill in Rome It shows a...
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I don’t know specifically what ‘groups’ Evola was referring to, however I would imagine that the prime example of Gnosticism being associated with Typhon...
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To the best of our knowledge, Paschal Beverly Randolph was born in New York City of an American father and of a Franco-Madagascan mother ; in 1850, he was...
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You might enjoy this, on the H B of L (of which Guénon wrote with some ire): http://www.jwmt.org/v1n1/influence.html ...
Rowan Berkeley
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Oct 2, 2005
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We don't know either what Gnostic sects Evola referred to in this respect, both in 'Revolt against the Modern World' and in 'Three Aspects of the Jewish...
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I don't see how P B Randolph can have been initiated into the H B of L in 1860. It wasn't founded until 1881. In fact, according to John P Deveney, the...
Rowan Berkeley
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It seems that we are not better at chronology than Mr Jennings was. This being said, very few of those who have studied the H.B.L. agree on its year of...
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The complete sentence of Evola was: "According to some ancient traditions, Typhon, the entity hostile to the solar God, would have been the father of the Jews,...
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Oct 3, 2005
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I'm afraid it may just be the case that Evola, Doresse, Tacitus, and Jerome, were all wrong about the relationship between the Jewish God and the God Set...
Rowan Berkeley
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It may be the case. On the other hand, an Egyptologist of the old school may be wrong on a particular point ; a Roman historian may be wrong on a particular...
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Jehovah forbade Moses, probably an Egyptian follower of Akhenaton, to enter the Promised Land because of an obscure fault. So, it looks the Christianity the...
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I would like to read the Doresse book, if I can find it - the theory that the Israelite religion is a demonic inversion of the Egyptian one is certainly...
Rowan Berkeley
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A source for the definition by Evola (about the Typhon-Jehovah identification) has been probably also Plutarch, who says that Set, the name of Typhon in...
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Christianity certainly owes a lot to the myth of Osiris as told in Plutarch ('Isis and Osiris', 12-20) and elaborated by Diodorus Siculus ('Library of...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Oct 4, 2005
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... Does Evola distinguish this? Regards, K. ... god, ... a ... anyone ... its ... cult ... at ... privilege ... doctrinal ... public ... Egyptian ... Orion ; ...
kshonan88 Offline Send Email Oct 14, 2005
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He does - in 'Three Aspects of the Jewish Problem'. Please read message 249. Doesn't our 'welcome message' state that it is not worth joining this group if one...
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well that's very informative. I wonder whether you feel that what you say about the perishable nature of Osiris applies equally to Horus? On the one hand,...
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Oct 5, 2005
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It's Schwaller de Lubicz, who also saw what the "pharaonic Great Work" and the Christian revelation had in common from a symbolic point of view, to whom we may...
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That is an absolutely wonderful piece of analysis. I am a bit amazed though to see you starting from René Schwaller, surely as eclectic as any member of the...
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