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Hitler's Obtuseness


The second sentence of this passage of 'Hitler's Table Talk' is in
contradiction with the third. First, Hitler, like many anti-Semitic
authors, shows he is aware that Christianity is essentially a Jewish
Trojan horse in the Western world, in the Western mind, and that
Paulinian Rome is not heathen Rome. Then, by saying "Yet Rome
today...", he seems to lose sight of the fact that they were opposed
in nature. After all, 'Hitler's Table Talk' is the product of his
lunch- and supper-time conversations in his private circle from 1941
to 1944, as pointed out by D. Irving.

"The transcripts, Irving continues, are genuine. (Ignore the
1945 "transcripts" published by Trevor-Roper in the 1950s as Hitler's
Last Testament -- they are fake). The table talk notes were
originally taken by Heinrich Heim, the adjutant of Martin Bormann,
who attended these meals at an adjacent table and took notes. (Later
Henry Picker took over the job). Afterwards Heim immediately typed up
these records, which Bormann signed as accurate. Franēois Genoud
purchased the files of transcripts from Bormann's widow just after
the war, along with the handwritten letters which she and the
Reichsleiter had exchanged. For forty thousand pounds -- paid half to
Genoud and half to Hitler's sister Paula - George Weidenfeld, an
Austrian Jewish publisher who had emigrated to London, bought the
rights and issued an English translation in about 1949. For forty
years or more no German original was published, as Genoud told me
that he feared losing the copyright control that he exercised on
them. I have seen the original pages, and they are signed by Bormann.
They were expertly, and literately, translated by Norman Cameron and
R.H. Stevens, though with a few (a very few) odd interpolations of
short sentences which don't exist in the original - the translator
evidently felt justified in such insertions, to make the context
plain."

(...)

It is unadulterated Hitler. He expatiates on virtually every subject
under the sun, while his generals and private staff sit patiently and
listen, or pretend to listen, to the monologues."

Julius Evola, who reviewed its Italian translation ('Conversazioni di
Hitler a tavola' : (1941-1942) / raccolte al suo quartier generale da
Henry Picker ; translated by Emmerico Guiscardi. - Longanesi, Milan,
1953), disagreed with Irving on that point : "Let us bear in mind
that - as is stressed in the preface - Hitler, even when having a
meal, felt as if he was taking the floor, so that the material which
has been published here does not show true characters of intimacy and
of spontaneity."

Evola had always been hard on Hitler. Here, we find his most severe
judgement on him : "There is no shortage of interesting and
intelligent observations on various concrete problems in this book.
But the general atmosphere is quite different from that which can
correspond to a true Leader, who could assume legitimately an
absolute authority."




--- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Rowan Berkeley"
<rowan_berkeley@y...> wrote:
>
> "The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was
that it knew nothing of the two great
> scourges : the pox and Christianity. Christianity is a prototype of
Bolshevism: the mobilisation by the
> Jew of the masses of slaves with the object of undermining society.
Thus one understands that the healthy
> elements of the Roman world were proof against this doctrine. Yet
Rome to-day allows itself to reproach
> Bolshevism with having destroyed the Christian churches! As if
Christianity hadn't behaved in the same
> way towards the pagan temples." (Hitler, Table Talk, 19th October
1941 night)
>
> -- What Hitler finds bizarre here ("Yet Rome today ...!") is really
revealing. In the same way that Rome
> today condemns Bolshevism, Jewry in Ancient Rome condemned
Christianity - even though each and every one
> of these is merely one of the successive phases of jewish 'social
radicalism'.
>
>
>
>
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Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:14 pm

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"The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges : the pox and Christianity. Christianity is...
Rowan Berkeley
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Nov 28, 2005
4:44 pm

The second sentence of this passage of 'Hitler's Table Talk' is in contradiction with the third. First, Hitler, like many anti-Semitic authors, shows he is...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Nov 29, 2005
5:18 pm

-- Let me add as a corollary to my criticism, the notion that precisely because ancient Rome's Jewry condemned the Christians, a certain superficially...
Rowan Berkeley
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Nov 29, 2005
6:53 pm

Indeed. Thine enemy's enemy is thy friend. Rowan Berkeley <rowan_berkeley@...> wrote: -- Let me add as a corollary to my criticism, the notion...
Troy Southgate
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Nov 29, 2005
8:27 pm

... precisely because ancient Rome's Jewry ... Roman mentality couldn't resist ... Jewish 'progress', which enlists the ... Nietzsche exposes that the best. ...
kshonan88 Offline Send Email Nov 29, 2005
8:28 pm

What exactly do you mean by "Roman mentality"? Surely, not the mentality of those Patricians who, as told by Celsus, held in contempt the Christians, and who...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Nov 30, 2005
1:48 pm

http://jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=9&letter=C CĘSAR, CAIUS JULIUS: By : Kaufmann Kohler Herman Rosenthal Roman dictator, consul, and conqueror; born...
brightimperator Offline Send Email Nov 30, 2005
5:22 pm

Julius Cęsar's attitude toward the Jews, his policy of toleration towards them, is well-known. "These decrees show clearly that Julius Cęsar in his broad and...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Nov 30, 2005
6:12 pm

There are not a lot of academic works on the history of the Jewish community of ancient Rome, which is known from several classical, Latin and Greek sources,...
evola_as_he_is Offline Send Email Dec 1, 2005
8:45 pm

The stranger eastern cults have been always permitted in Rome if not considered dangerous for the peace of the Imperium; in spite of it, many Jewish...
vandermok
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Dec 1, 2005
8:49 pm

Not always, Troy: if I do not love the black-beetles and the spiders kill them, is that sufficient for considering friends the spiders? If I hate all bugs and...
vandermok
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Nov 30, 2005
1:27 pm

Yes, of course. But I meant it in specific relation to the Roman attitude towards Christianity, although this can often be a worthy strategy, anyway....
Troy Southgate
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Nov 30, 2005
2:50 pm

I am hypothesising, to the effect that there is never any shortage, in any epoch, of people who - deceived by the fact that within the jewish world there is...
Rowan Berkeley
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Nov 30, 2005
2:49 pm

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