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  • Re: An Eye is Not Always an Eye (was:Image and video manipulation in the occult war)

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  • rouesolaire
    Jun 22
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    "an overactive imagination being a sign of materialism, superficiality and puerility/immaturity,"
    "Materialism" in the meaning that René Guénon gave to this word.

    "and constituting the ground of superstition and "escapism""
    And also of beliefs.


    --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "rouesolaire" <rouesolaire@...> wrote:
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    > As it is good to laugh from time to time, here is an excerpt from the "quid 2000" (page 546) and its rough translation in English about the Negroid's "spirituality" and imagination (a "quality" which comes straight from the lunar anti-spirit, for reasons explained at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evola_as_he_is/message/1639, an overactive imagination being a sign of materialism, superficiality and puerility/immaturity, and constituting the ground of superstition and "escapism".)
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    > « « Culte du cargo ». Croyances religieuses répandues en Mélanésie. Mouvement dont le nom comporte toujours le mot cargo (Kago en pidgin), cargaison. Les ancêtres vont rejoindre les vivants apportant avec eux sur un grand bateau blanc venu du ciel tous les « trésors » de l'Occident. Fin du XIXe s. début (mouvement Tuka à Fidji 1885). 1944-45 cultes renforcés par le passage des troupes américaines. Comportent généralement la destruction de tous les biens existants, maisons, ustensiles, animaux, jardins en vue de leur remplacement immédiat par d'autres, meilleurs. Exemples récents : Naked Cult à Espiritu Santo (Vanuatu), « John Frum Movement » à Tanna (Vanuatu), « Masinga Rule » à Malaïta (îles Salomon), « Palau Movement » à Manus (îles de l'Amirauté, Papouasie-Nouvelle-Guinée). »
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    > "" Cargo cult ". Religious beliefs prevalent in Melanesia. Movement whose name always includes the word cargo (Kago in pidgin), shipment. The ancestors will join the living bringing with them on a large white boat from the sky all the "treasures" of the West. Beginning at the end of the nineteenth century (Tuka movement in Fiji in 1885). 1944-1945 cults reinforced by the transit of the U.S. troops. Generally involve the destruction of all existing goods, houses, utensils, animals, gardens for their immediate replacement by others, better. Recent examples: Naked Cult in Espiritu Santo (Vanuatu), "John Frum Movement" in Tanna (Vanuatu), "Masinga Rule" in Malaïta (Solomon Islands), "Palau Movement" in Manus (Admiralty Islands, Papua New Guinea). "
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    > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" <evola_as_he_is@> wrote:
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    > > Once again, it should be stressed that the connection between the eye, the fish, the half-moon, etc. was made by some ancient, non white, peoples in the first place, as showed by their mythological art and texts. Of course, this connection extends to the boat and the ship : for instance, in Sumerian hymns, Inanna's vulva, the eye goddess, was compared to a "boat of heaven", and, incidentally, to a "lap of honey" (N. Wolf, Vagina : A Cultural History)
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    > > Most contemporary 'White' people do not and cannot see this obvious connection because they simply have too much imagination, a quality that, as well spotted by de Gobineau, is peculiar to Negroid races ; unable to see, they can only imagine. All these symbols are, so to speak, engraved in the female body : as far as the boat is concerned, the vestibule, that is, the skin folds of the labia majora and labia minora, form a boat-shaped area.
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    > > Many related artifacts proper to the pre- and -non-Indo-European "egalitarian and peaceful" culture of archaic Europe are reproduced seen in 'The Goddesses and Gods of Old Europe, 6500-3500 B.C. : Myths and Cult Images', by Marija Gimbutas (http://books.google.fr/books?id=zKFFOoPlyjIC&printsec=frontcover&dq=%22The+Goddesses+and+Gods+of+Old+Europe,+6500-3500+B.C.:+Myths+and+Cult+Images%22&hl=fr&sa=X&ei=NgKtUd6jKsjOhAf_3oGQAQ&ved=0CDUQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22The%20Goddesses%20and%20Gods%20of%20Old%20Europe%2C%206500-3500%20B.C.%3A%20Myths%20and%20Cult%20Images%22&f=false)
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    > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "tlefranc10" <tlefranc10@> wrote:
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    > > > You have made a connection between the "eye", the fish, the boat and the womb, suggesting they are closely related to each other in terms of shape. I think it would not be far-fetched to add to this list any church or cathedral (i.e. the way it is built: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Amiens_cathedral_floorplan.JPG) and the coffin, perhaps an "underground, telluric boat" in the minds of the Christians who introduced it wherever they preached.
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    > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "Evola" <evola_as_he_is@> wrote:
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    > > > > It is being investigated, and the result of our research will be published in French at http://elementsdeducationraciale.wordpress.com, a research for which we originally intended more than ever to use the material offered by relevant scholarly works rather than the content of 'Conspiracy theory' journalistic-like pieces, which tend to be a mile wide and an inch deep, unable as they are for most of them to first delineate rigorously a field of study, and then to investigate it discriminatively.
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    > > > > The starting point of a study of this kind is obviously the various attributes of the divinities known as 'Great Mothers'. In terms of shape, there is a variety of symbols that seem to be closely related to each other, such as the eye, the womb (the vulva, the vagina), the fish - not to mention the boat. Archeological evidence shows unambiguously that this posited connection is not a figment of our imagination ; each goddess may not possess all the first three attributes, but at least one of these abstractions belong to each goddess. Let us recall incidentally that the visible signs, or representations, by which the related force is represented, are proteiform, given the nature of this force. Not only it is proteiform, but, by its very nature, it is also shifting ; there is a hide-and-seek dimension in the deployment of its visible manifestations. It tends to "seek" in times and in spaces where it feels like a fish in water, so to speak, that is, when the "Light of the South" shines, such as in the Minoan culture (see H. B. Werness, 'The Continuum Encyclopedia of Animal Symbolism in World Art, p. 176 ; on the sarcophagus reproduced in the plate, the eye, the uterus and the fish make one ; the rather obvious stylised representation of the fish as two intersecting arcs, with the ends of the right side extending beyond the meeting point so as to look like the profile of a fish, is not found on early christian mosaics, frescoes, and sculptures, and seems to have been devised in the XXth century, when times were ripe), and to 'hide', in times when it aims at infiltrating either a mixed culture (Horus' so-called 'eye' in ancient Egypt - contrary to what J. Evola assumed, Horus was a "dying-god", within a people of Hyperborean origin that was however already dramatically affected by Negroid influences), or a culture that is alien to it (any symbol derived from the basic pattern of two intersecting arcs, horizontally or vertically, that was femininely 'smuggled' into the world of Nordic peoples).
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    > > > > We have not found online many scholarly studies on the rather obvious connection between the fish and the vulva. M. Gimbutas once pointed at a vase dated 700-678 BCE showing Artemis with a fish drawn at her womb area, as well as at the fish placed within the womb of the Bee goddess painted on a Boeotian vase around 700 BCE (The Gods and Goddesses of Old Europe, p. 110). There is also that carved fish from the Paleolithic was unearthed in Siberia with a body "with a pecked spiral labyrinth like a womb with a uterine passage" (S. Skinner, Symbols of the Soul). M. Gimbutas has not been emulated. Besides, many ancient artefacts have not been released. In this connection, it would be interesting to know where the artefact shown at http://keithranville.wordpress.com/2012/10/21/christian-fish-symbol-eye-of-god-theory/ comes from.
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    > > > > --- In evola_as_he_is@yahoogroups.com, "rouesolaire" <rouesolaire@> wrote:
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    > > > > > It is relevant to point out that in early christianity, it was not the cross which was the main christian symbol but the fish (1) and that the fish is above all a vaginal symbol of ancient Asian lunar religions (2).
    > > > > > The relation between the eye symbol and the fish symbol – which are very similar in their shape (3) - should also be investigated.
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    > > > > > (1) http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-oDCyjOSxspY/Tqlpww8NoYI/AAAAAAAAIlM/O-sf1oM18Aw/s400/gravure_chretienne_elements_paiens.jpg
    > > > > > http://www.nouvelordremondial.cc/2011/03/27/lultime-plus-vieille-eglise-du-monde-deterree-en-israel/
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    > > > > > (2) http://malachitewitch.com/Pagan%20Symbols/fish_symbol.htm
    > > > > > http://www.seiyaku.com/customs/fish/fish.html
    > > > > > http://www.seiyaku.com/customs/fish/fish-pagan.html
    > > > > > http://www.cracked.com/article_19909_6-famous-symbols-that-dont-mean-what-you-think.html
    > > > > > http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/fish_symbol.htm
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    > > > > > (3) http://keithranville.wordpress.com/2012/10/21/christian-fish-symbol-eye-of-god-theory/
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