THE INTER-AMERICAN  INSTITUTE FOR PHILOSOPHY,GOVERNMENT, AND SOCIAL THOUGHT                       2012 2Contents 3 The Structure of the Debate The Debaters 4 FI R S T  SE G M E N TOlavo de Carvalho’s Answer Aleksandr Dugin’s Answer: Global Transition and Its Enemies 25 SE C O N D  SE G M E N TAleksandr Dugin’s Reply: The West Against the Rest Olavo de Carvalho’s Reply 67 TH I R D  SE G M E N TAleksandr Dugin’s Response Olavo de Carvalho’s Response 143 FO U R T H  SE G M E N TOlavo de Carvalho’s Closing Remarks Aleksandr Dugin’s Closing Remarks: Against the Post-Modern World